Lyr Req: Pretty Peg (from Howling Gael)

Subject: Pretty Peg - know the lyrics?
From: Rosebrook
Date: 10 Feb 98 - 10:51 AM

I'm looking for lyrics to the song Pretty Peg. I heard it on a Howling Gael LP. It may be Irish. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Subject: RE: Pretty Peg - know the lyrics?
From: Bruce O.
Date: 10 Feb 98 - 10:56 AM

Can you give us a line or two? I have "Pretty Peggy of Darby, O", an Irish song and tune. There is also another tune called "Pretty Peggy"

Subject: RE: Pretty Peg - know the lyrics?
From: Wolfgang Hell
Date: 10 Feb 98 - 11:11 AM

Rosebrook, one's "Pretty Peg" lyrics have been posted already nearly a year ago. Use "Pretty Peg" in a "Forum search" or this shortcut . If that's not the song, follow Bruce's advice.
Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Pretty Peg - know the lyrics?
From: Rosebrook
Date: 10 Feb 98 - 06:54 PM

Hey Wolfgang!

That indeed is the song I was searching for! Thanks so much!!

Rose

Subject: Pretty Peg, NOT pretty peggy-o...
From: ChaosCat
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 05:10 PM

I'm not certain of the name of the song really- I can only guess at Pretty Peg. It was on an album called Howling Gael, of which I can no longer find a copy.

The lyrics began like this: When pretty Peg went down the street, some fresh fish for to buy, her waitng lad followed after her, and he kissed her bye and bye...

Any help here?

Subject: Lyr Add: PRETTY PEG / THE CREEL
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 05:19 PM

Well, this is all I was able to find. The note with it said that it was "called The Creel" -- whether that refers just to the aire it was sung to, or the song as a whole, I do not know.

The ??? apparently indicates the places where the typist person couldn't understand the words.

Sorry I couldn't help more; perhaps this will help better searchers find a more complete version.

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When pretty Peg went down the street some fresh fish for to buy
By the way ??? I followed after her, and I kissed her by and by

With my tiddy right fol a diddle die do
With my tiddy right fol a diddle dan

Oh, how can I get to your chamber, love, or how can I get to your bed
When your daddy goes to sleep at night with the key lying under his head

Oh, go and fetch a ladder, love, with 30 steps and 3
And put it to the chimney top and come down in a creel to me

I went and got a ladder, love, with 30 steps and 3
And a creel, ???

No peace nor ease could the old wife get, with dreams running through her head
I'll lay me life says the gay old wife there's a boy in me daughter's bed

So up the stairs the old man came and into the room crept he
Silence reigned for the daughter slept and he never twigged the creel

My curse attend you, Father, what brought you up so soon
To put me through my evening prayers, and I just lying down

He went back to his gay old wife, he went back to she
"She has the prayer book in her hand and she's praying for you and me"

No peace nor ease could the old wife get till she would rise and see
She came down a stumbling (???) and into the creel went she.

Hi I rocked her, ho, I rocked here, didn't I rock her well
For if any old wife begrudge me her daughter I'd rock her into Hell

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Alex

Subject: Pretty Peg, NOT pretty peggy-o...
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 05:28 PM

I was hoping I'd get back here before someone posted the lyrics again.  Oh well.  Here is what I was going to say:

The "Digitrad and Forum Search" is down just now, so I won't lecture you about using it before asking for lyrics!  The song is a version of The Keach in the Creel; lyrics are in the DT, here:  Pretty Peg,  and there have been discussions on it in the past, notably:  "Pretty Peg" (Bothy Band)

These links won't work, by the way, until "Shorty" (the main Mudcat server) is back online.

Malcolm

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Links fixed
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Peg, NOT pretty peggy-o...
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 05:29 PM

Okay, I got some discography info from the folkindex

Howling Gael. Rant and Roar, Grassroots* GR 005, LP (1978), cut#A.04a

*Grass Roots Music
2737 NE 25th
Portland OR 97212
USA

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Alex

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Peg, NOT pretty peggy-o...
From: ChaosCat
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 05:36 PM

And again, the mouse comes to the cat's rescue! Keep this up, and I may have to find an alternate foodsource entirely!

Actually, the lyrics you posted sound like a different version of the song than I heard, though the tale seems to be the same... I suspect that the album is out of production now, or I surely would have found it in all my searching. Still, your info will indeed be invaluable to my search!

More thanks and raisin pie, friend.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Peg, NOT pretty peggy-o...
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 06:54 PM

Malcom, as a general rule, it is better to supply relative URLs to other pages within Mudcat rather than reffering to www or any of the servers. e.g. using "/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=4775&Title=PRETTY%20PEG" would have provided a link, creating the full URL to the song based on the server the user is on.

Jon

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Peg, NOT pretty peggy-o...
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 07:22 PM

If I remember correctly the earliest Scots version is "The Covering Blue" in G. R. Kinloch's 'The Ballad Book', p. 38, 1827. This commences, "My father he locks the doors at night".
Child in ESPB overlooked the broadside ballad version of 1690, "The Contriving Lover", which is in the Scarce Songs 1 file on my website.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Peg, NOT pretty peggy-o...
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 18 Apr 01 - 03:34 PM

Ah, thankyou Jon.  I'm only just now starting to get used to using relative URLs, and it hadn't occured to me to use them here; up till now I've always used the "www." path, but that looks like a good tip, which I will adopt.

Malcolm