Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?

Subject: Beer
From: Raptor
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 02:05 PM

I've recently found a new beer. It's called True North Lager and The wife and I love it It has no preservatives, No additives And comes unpasterized. It has a best before date and is very tasty. Brewed in Vaugn Ontario By Magnotta Breweries. Has anyone had it?
What beer is your current Favorite?
Do you try new brews?

Raptor

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Cappuccino
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 02:15 PM

I spent a year writing for the leading trade paper for pubs in Britain... even though I don't actually drink the stuff! What fascinated me about beer in the States was that when you have your World Beer Cup (every two years?) all the sections which have British names, like 'traditional Scottish ale' are never won by the Brits.... usually by the Japanese, it seems.

Do you still have that incredible radio show, out of Cleveland I think, Beer Talk Radio? Two hours on a Saturday night, two guys talking about beer?

Brilliant show!

- Ian B

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 02:17 PM

You know, I tried hard, serious efforts were made in various venues, and even a) after housepainting in the summer, b) with no other alcohol around at the kind of party I'd rather be other at, and c) interesting companions with information and stuff, I just can't get past how BAD beer tastes. I've tried and tried to like it, and would love to have more ideas on how to learn to like it (which is how I ended up housepainting in the summer in the first place!)... but it all tastes, well, like...beer. Bitter. No fun.... wish it weren't so...! But I hear very good things about the microbreweries in VA...

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 02:26 PM

Mrrzy,

I'm not sure what beers you've tried, but there are a number of lagers that aren't so bitter. That is one of the complaints about American beer, too bland!! The major breweries all try to produce a very middle of the road product that will appeal to everyone and they turn out something that is akin to tap water.

As for not caring for the bitter flavor, I think it is a lot like coffee complaints, some people can't stand Starbucks-type coffee - way too bitter!

You might consider trying something like Corsendonk or a nice Kriek. While you may find it bitter, you might find it interesting because of all the subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) flavors that are present.

Personally, I believe the secret to life can be found in a pint of Guinness draft. I have seen the light!!!!

I enjoy a lot of different beers. Sam Adams is my "house" beer, but I also enjoy Bass. Most of the times I enjoy ales and stouts.

Homebrewing is also fun. I've brewed some interesting flavors and styles.

Thanks. Now I am thirsty and I have to work for 3 more hours!!!!

Ron

Subject: RE: Beer
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 02:31 PM

Creemore Springs is the best beer I ever tried. Recommended to me by the wise and radiant Duckboots when I was in Toronto and Orillia last year. Although Max's own Pumpkin Pie Micro-brew, infused with "Max Essence" came in a close second when I was in West Chester this past fall.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 02:37 PM

I've just been reading about John Willie Lees winter brew which has just gone on sale in Manchester, here in the UK, for £2.20 a bottle. Changes hands in New York for up to $55 apparantly! Should we try to make a killing? (Just kidding - suspect the duties and shipping would be prohibitive.)

Try Belgian Kriek Mrrzy - Mrs Gnome loves it and she doesn't really like beer. It's cheery flavoured! They do Rasperry (Framboise?) and other flavours as well. Another alternative is a stong ale or 'barley wine' - strong, dark and most often very sweet.

My favourite at the moment is the porter brewed by someone local (I can't remember who!) for the Crescent in Salford. Most beers I like tend to be the darker ones but there are a few light beers I enjoy as well - Including the German and Belgian cloudy wheat beers. I still enjoy a pint of the good old Manchester nectar though - Joseph Holts. Mmmmm!

Cheers

Dave the Gnome

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Greycap
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 02:42 PM

Double Trappiste from Belgium - that's the stuff! Or Theakstons Old Peculiar from Yorkshire, UK. Oh, Yes.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 02:50 PM

I tend to drink Guiness but if I go into a pub that has a beer I have never tried, the odds are that I will have a sample pint. My favourite bitter at the moment is Adnams Broadside which is brewed in Suffolk, England.

What is the reputation of John Willie Lees elsewhere? When I lived in North Wales, most beer drinkers I knew seemed to hate the stuff but I thought it was a very good pint. Thinking of beers to dislike - Robinsons is my pet hate - I even tried it in Macclesfield (figuring that was close enough to Stockport) once as it had been suggested it didn't travel to well but it tasted just the same...

Jon

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 03:06 PM

I've heard good things about John Willie Lees, but here in the NYC area it is largely a rumor, although I've never heard of $55 per bottle!

Ron

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 03:11 PM

Check out the Black Sheep Brewery in Yourkshire if ever you have the chance; they make an amazingly yummy-licious porter!

I loooooove beer & ale, and prefer a heavier, more substantial brew as a general rule; I gave a talk on the history of brewing, and especially the place of women in brewing, just a few months ago. Up until the early modern period, when men started sussing out that it was a potetially luicrative concern, almost all commercial brewing was done by women, usually as a sort of cottage industry, since it was something that could be done at home Ale is at least as old as bread, and has an excellent claim to being a staff of life on its own merits! whilst still attending to other domestic duties.

So ladies---don't ever let anyone make you order a half pint again!

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,Mad4Mud at work
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 03:13 PM

I've been fond of Portland Brewing Company's MacTarnahan's Amber Ale for quiet some time now. Their Honey Beer isn't bad either if you want a lighter taste. My husband just tried their Black Watch Cream Porter and thought it was very good too.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: JudeL
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 03:17 PM

Wadsworth 6x , Brains Reverend James, Tanglefoot, Speckled Hen, Exmoor Gold to name but a few , so many beers so little time Jude

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Raptor
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 03:36 PM

Why is it that our friends in the UK like thick beer you can chew?
And our american buddies like beer that is light and watery?
Raptor

Subject: RE: Beer
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 03:42 PM

You think Creemore Springs is light and watery? I thought it was rich and creamy.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 03:53 PM

That's funny; in my experience lots of English guys like to drink lagers, while my American friends & I are always keen to drink the real ales when we're there.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 03:54 PM

We American's had our taste buds programmed by the big breweries. Lager yeast became popular in the 1800's here in the U.S. and it developed a following. Because of the size of the market,big brewers try to develop styles that will appeal to the largest group. The blander beers lend themselves to "having more than one" as the ad used to say. You can have three or four Buds and feel room for more where you would feel full with other brews.

This also contributes to higher rates of alcholism.

I would also say that cost is involved - American brewers use less hops and add rice to the beer to keep costs down. That is why a 6 pack of microbrews cost substantially more than Bud.

As for "thick and chewy", you would be surprised that many of the darker brews actually have less calories and less alchol.

Ron

Subject: RE: Beer
From: jeffp
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 03:58 PM

For my money, give me something nice and hoppy. My usual is Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, but in winter I like porters and stouts. I'm a homebrewer, too. We're waiting for a lovely brown ale to condition in the bottles right now. Perhaps I'll try one tonight to check.

In my opinion, Bud, Miller, Coors, etc. are for people who don't like beer.

jeffp

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Raptor
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 04:06 PM

I thought that Creemore Springs was from Creemore Ontario
Raptor

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 04:09 PM

Before all American beers are categorized as dish water, I'd like to say a word on behalf of Rolling Rock in the long-necked dark green bottles. Intelligent commercials, and a good taste. Put beer in a can and you've already lost the battle.

Jerry

Subject: RE: Beer
From: jeffp
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 04:17 PM

I have very fond memories of Rolling Rock from my college days. $4.25 + a dollar deposit for a case of 42 7-ounce returnable pony bottles! A tiny fraction of a cent over a dime apiece! We had a separate fridge with bottles of beer stacked like artillery shells. Thanks for stimulating the memory.

jeffp

Subject: RE: Beer
From: gnu
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 04:19 PM

OK, I'm diverting all power to the shields, even the life support systems power, for this one. Let me try to evade the onslaught by telling you a beer story. The other day, I was in a new pub in my neighbourhood. I ordered my beer and a fellow nearby crapped all over it, saying that I may as well drink water. At that point, I realized that the very fact that it tastes more like water than beer is EXACTLY why I drink it. No after-taste, very little hangover, and it goes well with a meal. But it DOES taste somewhat like beer. And it only has 4% alcohol, so I can drink a few and not get that mushy brain feeling, and I can drink more than a few and not get that mushy guts feeling.

It's... wait til I get my coat on and get "one step t'ward the door" ... Bud Light. Seriously, I have tasted many different brews and actually like some better than BL, but, overall, the BL picks me up and doesn't slam me on the ground.

Anyway, if I was thirsty for taste, I'd have an OJ, or a TJ or a good cup of tea. And if I wanted more of an alcohol content, I'd be havin a chat wit Alfred (Lamb's amber rum).

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,Gimme Cheap Or Gimme Death
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 04:20 PM

1.5 lb crystal until 160F 6 lb pale malt extract 2.5 gal H2O 1 oz low-acid hop for full boil .5 oz tettnanger for 5 min .5 oz cascade for 2 min combine w/2.5 gal more H2O after cooling, pitch yeast, and wait 2 weeks...PALE ALE, 5 gal for $20 or so

btw, if I buy beer, it's either Pabst or Coors Light.."what beer drinkers drink when they're not drinking beer"...

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,Keltik
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 04:20 PM

waay back up the thread some one said "i hear VA microbrews are pretty good"

yep *G* they arre.. i'm a big fan of just about everything for Old Dominion Brewery and theres a smaller local brewer called Bardo that makes some yummy stuff...(Dremo mmmmm)

and fordham brewery in annapolis makse good things too mmmm oyster stout...

I am also havee a friend who homebrews beer and mead...his last batch of cream stout was "ohhhmygod-excuse-me-while-i-use-my-fingers-to-scrape-every-last-bit-of-foam-out-of-the-pint-glass" good...

tho in the end.. i always come back to guiness :)

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 04:30 PM

Juneau, Alaska (USA) has a microbrewery, Alaskan Beer, that delivers great taste. I prefer their Amber but a lot of people drink their Pale Ale. They also have limited runs of specials, like Smoked Porter, Wheat- I don't know what all. A friend of mine who used to brew his own no longer does because he's fine with Alaskan.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 04:33 PM

RR is a bit unpredictable in flavor......Maybe that's the reason for the "33" Jerry.........33 different flavors from the same recipe!

Spaw

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 04:38 PM

.... which reminds me of a joke.

Adolphus Busch, Joseph Schlitz, Adolph Coors, and Arthur Guinness were having lunch one day. The waiter comes up to the table to take their drink order.

"I'll have an ice cold glass of Bud" ordered Adolphus Busch.

"Give Me a smooth glass of Schlitz" ordered Joseph Schlitz.

"I'll take a refreshing glass of Coors" ordered Adolph Coors.

"I'll have a Coke" ordered Arthur Guinness. His lunch companions stared at him.

"Well if you guys aren't going to order a beer, neither am I!" quipped Mr. Guinness!!!

Subject: RE: Beer
From: artbrooks
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:01 PM

Lots of good beer in the States...mostly called microbrewery or craft beer. I think that the difference is the amount produced. A lot of microbreweries are also restaurants/pubs and they often don't bottle their beer at all. Regional beer in one part of the US tends to be "exotic" in other parts...Iron City, which is made in Pittsburgh and tastes rather like steel plant effluant, is priced with imports here in Albuquerque. I guess that's not unique to here...I noticed that all the locals were drinking Bud when I was in Ireland last year.

Guiness is ok, if you can't get a GOOD stout...try a Meckisons (sp?) XXX if you have a chance.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: gnu
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:01 PM

And the old joke about two rivals sending their favourite beers away to a chem lab for analysis. The letters come back and one fellow recites, so many % this and that. The other fellow's letter reads, "We are sorry to inform you that your horse has died of diabetes."

Subject: RE: Beer
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:07 PM

Hey art.....Iron City is the choice of Cletus, Paw, and Buford and the Reg Boys!

Spaw

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:11 PM

Mackeson's doesn't travel well to the U.S. unfortunately.

By the way, I don't want to sound like a beer snob. There is nothing that beats a cold can of Coors, some barbeque and a warm summer day. (Yes, I said can!!)

Beer is more intricate than wine. It is a more complex drink and the differences in taste are enormous. There are different time snd situations that call for a variety of beers.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,Amy from LA
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:17 PM

I used to hate beer until I went to England! I don't hate beer, I just hate American lager. I love what Dave, the Gnome calls Barley Wine and Stout and Porter. Ian B. have you ever been to The Orangery in London at the end of Pimlico Street in Chelsea. They are a microbrewry and pub in one. Their beer is the best of all time.

It's beer, beer, beer That makes you want to cheer in the halls, in the halls . . .

Subject: RE: Beer
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:21 PM

So there you go, Raptor. gnu is Canadian and he prefers dishwater, and I'm from the U.S. and I prefer Creemore Springs, which, as you say, is from Canada, and doesn't taste like dishwater.

(Not faulting your choice of beer, by the way, gnu. It's ok to like dishwater ;-)

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:27 PM

Ahhh... quitting time! This group has managed to make me very thirsty. I am going to stop by the beer emporium on the way home and find something tasty to sample.

Cheers!

Ron

Subject: RE: Beer
From: gnu
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:29 PM

Welllll, I did drink Labatt's Blue, because you could buy it within my working travel range and not have to switch to a strange brew when you crossed provincial lines. Labatt's Lite is akin to BL and Blue is akin to Bud. Labatt brews the Buds we get here. The real reason I switched to Bud or BL is, DOUBLE full power to shields... belay that, FOURPLE full power to shields, Bud is the only one that funds the .... the... dare I say it ?... NRA. Yes, I dare say it and damn proud of it ! Freedom is not without a price.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:33 PM

You're just a sucker for punishment, aren't you, gnu?

Subject: RE: Beer
From: artbrooks
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:33 PM

Aaaaahhhh! Sitting here drinking a Winterhook from the Red Hook Brewery in Seattle. Merde to your Labatt's/ Budweiser.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:36 PM

Bud funds the NRA? Hmmmm... guns and alchol. What is wrong with this picture?

Ron

Subject: RE: Beer
From: gnu
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:40 PM

Sucker... yeah, I suppose. But I had to defend my choice of Yankee "dishwater" over Canadian "dishawter". I AM Canadian.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: poet
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:52 PM

When you read you begin with A B C
When you drink you begin with Doe Rae Me
The first few rules just Happen to be
Doe Rae Me

Doe a beer a mexican beer
Ray a man who buys me beer
Me a man I buy beer for
Far a long way to the bar
so I'll have another beer
La..ger no I said a beer Te no thanks I want a beer
and that brings us back to
Doe a B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Graham (Guernsey)

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 05:57 PM

Here in Calgary, the Big Rock ales are very good. Most of the common imports are here, inc. Guiness, but I prefer the locals. Just as good and often better. Some of the microbreweries are OK.
Of course, all of the dishwater is here; Kokanee is one of the local favorites. Coors is my pick for a light soft drink on a hot day and I want to avoid the high percentage stuff, echoing Ron and Gnu.
An excellent dark beer is Dos XX (pronounced dose eckees) from Mexico; it is sold widely but often sold out in Canada but in Hawai'i on vacation I always picked it up with my breakfast makin's at the grocery and liquor vendors. Another dark beer in Mexico is Modelo, but the vendor always gives you a funny look because it is drunk, I think, mostly by invalids and gays. For something potent in a small bottle, try Cuauhtemoc. A few bottles of that and your head will buzz for a week.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 06:19 PM

gnu my friend....I'm with you...sorta'...Bud still tastes a lot like soap to me, but after years of trying to drink the "preferred" brands and such, I prefer LB Blue and damn near any Pilsner over the other crap which come under the heading of "Vile, Foamy, Liquids." around here there is still Hudey and Schoenling's and Rolling Rock ain't awful, although Iron City does taste like industrial waste and gives me a headache. I guess we've had too much "Turkey Turd Beer" my friend and our tastes have changed.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 06:49 PM

If you're singing or dancing for the day you want a good tasty bitter with a low OG /ABV like Brakspear's ordinary, or Hook Norton or Youngs. Flavour without excess froth or falling over.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Gareth
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 07:02 PM

Having just returned from the "Royal Oak" - having downed 5 pints of Cask Conditioned (Real Ale ) Bass in honour of Joe Offer's nuptials perhaps I should not be posting.

But Two drinking Jokles.

1/. Whats the difference between "Watney's Red" and making love in a canuo.

None! they'r are both F****** close to Water.

2/. In Days of old Guiness shipped the produvts of Dublin over to Liverpool in Tank Ships. One day a Guiness Tanker was "T Boned" by a trawler off the Mersey Bar. It was a terrible tradedy. All 5 of the crew drowned trying to drink themselves ashore.

And then there is this

Gareth

Subject: RE: Beer
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 07:30 PM

I just picked up Dogfish Head Chicory Stout. Wow. Stout with a hint of chicory and coffee. I will be up all night now.

Another favorite beer- Yuengling. There is nothing like it if you can get it on tap in the vicinity of the brewery.

I also remember really enjoying Olympia when I was in San Francisco during my college years. What a taste.

Like I said earlier, there is a beer for every occasion!

Ron

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 07:30 PM

Gareth, after those pints you couldn't handle the spelling, so how did you manage the clickee?

Subject: RE: Beer
From: John Gray
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 09:10 PM

Do they still do Narragansett (lager?) that I used to drink in RI back in the middle 60's. It should have been sold at drug stores as a laxette.
San Miguel from the Philipines isn't to bad but my favourite is Cascade Pale Ale from the Cascade brewery in Tasmania. Very nutty, lots of hops and 5.1% alc content, aaahhhhh nectar.

JG/FME

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,sophocleese
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 09:53 PM

Geez I don't have a favourite at the moment. I like to wander round the beer section of our local liquor store and try anything I haven't tried yet. Tonight I tried a Danish brand called Giraf cause I thought the kids would like the can; cunningly colored black and arange in a giraffe-like pattern. Fortuneatly the store likes to keep bringing in different brands so I haven't yet run out of options. When I'm at one of our local bars I usually order Guinness if I'm drinking beer or a Black Russian if I've got a sweet tooth.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 11:12 PM

I drink beer...not because I enjoy it ...but because...if I was to drink the stuff I like ... I'd be in a heap of trouble! I can order a pint and have it last well over an hour. If I was to drink my prefered wine ... I'd gulp it down way to quickly and be broke just as quick. Yep ... beer is a sure/safe bet for me! I've tried the vile black stuff and Musicman will tell you ... it nearly makes me gag... an aquired taste I'm told!

Cheers! LL

Subject: RE: Beer
From: 53
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 11:31 PM

how many of you beer drinkers are fat and have beer bellies, ia am taking a poll? BOB

Subject: RE: Beer
From: artbrooks
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 12:17 AM

Don't ask, don't tell, Bob.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: 53
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 12:18 AM

i don't have a beer gut, cause i don't drink. BOB

Subject: RE: Beer
From: WyoWoman
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 12:26 AM

Now, Raptor (I believe it was you who posted way up there about American vs. U.K. tastes in beer), there are those of us Americans who can't stand the watery beer that passes for brew here in the U.S. of A. I like stout beer, drink Guinness when I can, also lots of tasty bolder brews. I'll try the stouts and porters at whatever brew pub I visit, but stay away from the lightweight beers and the wheat beer and lemon beers and who knows whatnot. I can't imagine why anyone would pay for beer and then end up drinking water!

GaryT has turned me on to some Kansas City brews from, I think, the Boulevard brewery, and I like those very well. I also like Fat Tire (or used to ... I've heard they've been bought by a big company and will probably start tasting lie budweiser soon. Ick. I hope this is an ugly rumor.)

I like Chimay Ale when I can find it. Brewed by Belgian monks as part of their service to God. This kind of devotion, I can appreciate.

ww

Subject: RE: Beer
From: DonMeixner
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 12:41 AM

Best beer I ever had was some stuff my brother Gary made for the family reunion about 4 years gone. The taste was .... excellent.

Light beer is for people who don'tr like beer and just want to pee.

And then theres Hamm's

People who drink Duquesene have no money. People who drink Budweiser have no imagination. People who drink Iron City have no mind to imagine with.

Kohler beer the pale dry stale ale with the head on the bottom.

BUt for a good clean taste thats affordable I like Killian's at just less than room temp.

Don

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Gareth
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 02:27 AM

Dicho - I xan't spell when I'am sobrt !

Gareth

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,frankie
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 04:49 AM

My current beer of choice is Sierra Nevada Porter but I'll pretty much drink whatever is put before me. Last night I sampled some Old Suffolk Ale out of a bottle and it was truly fine. Belhaven on tap is also good when you can find it and north of here in Tampa the Ybor City Brewery turns out an excellent lager called Ybor Gold.

f

Subject: RE: Beer
From: breezy
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 05:20 AM

and Hob goblin and London Pride and Wad 6x and a pint of old Peculiar, and thinking of Keith Marsden, Bring us a Barrel .

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST, (must reset my cookie again) Jude
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 05:43 AM

What is the NRA? Jude

Subject: RE: Beer
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 07:21 AM

Jude... we can't actually discuss the NRA in a beer thread. I would not have mentioned it except for the reason I stated above. It's the National Rifle Association. There... DONE... no more talk of the NRA or guns. If anyone wants to, they can resurrect recent threads on the matter. This should remain a beer thread as intended.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,Gern
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 09:57 AM

What a stimulating thread, even before 10AM. I've sampled everything from microbrewed status symbols to Piels big mouths and Stegmaier longnecks (remember 99 cents a 6-pack?) Guinness draft works best in the short run; Scottish ales appeal to me when a lighter taste is sought. Do they still brew Carlsburg? I remember it as one of the best bottled beers I've enjoyed, but havent seen it in years. Finally, showing my true colors, am I the only one who misses Rheingold?

Subject: RE: Beer
From: JohnB
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 10:11 AM

Carol, you should come back to Canada and try Creemore's "urBock" (their spelling). Any of the Unibroue beers from Chambly Quebec are worth a try. For an instant buzz Sophoclese try Navigator (10%), it's in the can next to the Giraffe in the beer store. I collect different empty bottles and have about 124 at a quick count. The rule for the collection is that I have to empty them myself. John B, who could make it the Creemore Brewery in about 20 min if he was in a hurry and drinks Guiness mostly when he's out.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: breezy
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 10:56 AM

NATIONAL RIVERS AUTHIORITY, nATIONAL rECORD OF aCHIEVEMENT

Subject: RE: Beer
From: RichM
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 11:17 AM

As a Canadian beer drinker, my main gripe about the popular brands is that they are brewed from Toronto and Montreal city water. No thanks. If I wanted to drink recycled waste, it's cheaper to go right to the source. I prefer local beers brewed from spring water.

Rich McCarthy

Subject: RE: Beer
From: artbrooks
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 11:26 AM

Oh course, for pure bad, nothing quite beats 110 degree Columbia loaded in a 100 case pallet and dropped from 19 feet from a helicopter. The cases on the outside of the load explode and you can't touch the rest for days...they just sit there and look at you...and you look at them...

Subject: RE: Beer
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 11:37 AM

Actually, if you get right down to it, I like the beer commercials better than the beer. Except for those insipid I AM CANADIAN ones. If there ever anything less Canadian, it's them. The best for me were radio commercials for several brands of Newfoundland beer, Blue Star & Black Horse to name a couple. I recall one that aired shortly after a half dozen Eastern Europeans jumped ship in St. John's. The theme was teaching them how to evade immigration by blending in with correct pronunciation like, "Black 'orse, bye."

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 01:25 PM

Just had some Youngs double chocolate stout. Mmmmmm!!!! I had forgotton how good it was.

Must go. More awaits. I may be some time...

DtG

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,GUEST
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 01:54 PM

Anyone remember the commercials from Ranier beer? The wild raniers? Or the "dang artesians" from the Olympia beer commercials? great stuff, without the Swedish Bikini Team insipidness.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: John Routledge
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 02:20 PM

Wonderful Wonderful thread.

I stopped drinking beer (and alcohol) 6 yrs ago but just realised how lovely it is even to read about it :0)

Fortunately I still don't want a pint!!

Cheers to you all - Geordie John

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Amergin
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 02:21 PM

well...when I was back home last summer I was drinking Huckleberry Ale...which was brewed in Couer d'Alene...

then there is Moose Drool from missoula....

Subject: RE: Beer
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 03:11 PM

I dunno, GUEST... the idea of six blondes with a bit of meat on their bones showing up at my door AND bringing the beer kinda brings a smile to my lips.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 03:44 PM

Back in the Fifties, Bob Clark, Seattle folksinger and co-proprietor of The Chalet, brewed his own beer. It gained much currency at hoots and songfests, possibly because he usually brought substantial quantities of it in quart bottles, and it was free. People raved about how great it tasted, but to be honest I can't say that I was very fond of it. I thought the flavor was just passable. It struck me as very yeasty.

Someone who knew something about brewing beer told me that he didn't like it much, either. He said that Bob's beer was still green when he bottled it. He should have left it in the crock and let it "work" longer. This gave it two outstanding characteristics. For a number of people, including me, one characteristic in particular – its aftereffect – was a major drawback.

Now, some people escaped this, but many others did not, and I was among the latter. If you drank very much of the stuff – but still not enough to get a buzz on – you would wake up the following morning with The Mother of All Hangovers. It was a real throbbing, gut-wrenching, nuclear powered, hundred-megaton head-banger. Victims of a religious bent would be convinced that they were finally being visited by the retribution of an angry, Old Testament God. Those who were medically oriented would be certain that the level of agony they were suffering had to be symptomatic of severe brain damage. It was the kind of hangover where every pulse-beat felt as if a hammer were being vigorously applied to the base of your skull. At first, you would be afraid you were going to die; after awhile, you would be afraid you were not going to die. Those who were susceptible to this aftereffect would drink a thimbleful for the sake of conviviality, then move on to the store-bought stuff.

And the second characteristic: the instant you popped the cap, the contents erupted in a foamy geyser that surged to an impressive altitude. It then returned to earth in a mighty deluge, drenched the carpet and many of the assembled celebrants, and filled the room with odor of hops and yeast.

It was quite a ceremony when Bob opened a bottle. He would usually set the bottle into a dishpan or washtub, apply a bottle opener to the cap, then cover his hand and the bottle with a large towel. Apprehensively, he would begin to manipulate the bottle opener until the cap was ready to go ballistic. As he made these preparations, the assembled company would gather in a circle, then carefully back up several paces to a safe distance.

It was like watching somebody blast a stump.

These days, I rather fond of some of the products that come from Seattle's microbreweries. Red Hook produces some fairly good stuff. One of theirs is Ballard Bitter. Lot's of people don't especially like it, but I do. It lets you know it's there.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Amergin
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 04:23 PM

not beer I know...but anymore when I go out I usually have a couple of pints of Blackthorn....wonderful refreshing stuff...

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 05:40 PM

I like lots of the micro/craft brews, but they aren't usually found very far from Home Ground as it were. I don't like bitter, hoppy stuff. I do like Ambers, Porter, stout, etc. but don't buy it very often because it is pretty expensive. If you don't like beer at all, you might try a Lambic. It's a "beer" with a champagne finish, and usually quite sweet. Sort of beers answer to wine coolers..........

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Gareth
Date: 12 Jan 02 - 08:06 PM

Amergin

Blackthorne ?? The dog wn't drink that !!

Now a good rough draft cider Ahh! Man now you are talking.

Remember a good rough cider is the perfect cure for a cough, after a pint you darn't cough.

Gareth

Subject: RE: Beer
From: The Walrus
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:00 AM

I think many here would enjoy alittle cafe I found in Mons, Belgium, their menu had two pages of food and six pages of beers.
Oh, and there is a decent Budweiser on the market, of course it has nothing to do with the muck produced by Anhauser-Busch, it's the ORIGINAL stuff from Budovic (Formerly Budweiss) in the Czech Republic (ISTR reading that, having stolen the name, A-B sucessfully prevented the real Budweiser company from marketing its beer -at least under its own name - in the USA).
This thread has made me thirsty, time to open a bottle of "Hen" I think.

Walrus

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:54 AM

Yeah Sorcha, I envy you out there with so many good local beers, Teton ale, Pyramid, Moose Drool, etc. I occasionally drink a Lambic, the major drawback being that it's over $5.00 for a small bottle around here. Here's an interesting site: click this. Hope this works. f

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,frankie
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:56 AM

Drat! above link is www.beerme.com. f

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bruce from Bathurst
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 09:51 AM

There has been a surprising lack of Australian content in this thread, considering our national dedication to this particular beverage.

I've just arrived home from playing music in a beery pub and I had the late night urge to check the Mudcat news (the family's asleep and I'm still buzzing). It's too late to drink beer so I'm having a small dram of Bowmore fine Islay malt whisky to steady the nerves. But beer is a good thing if you don't mind getting out of bed during the night!

The Australian thinking beer person should support Cooper's, the only remaining small-ish Australian brewer with a serious stake in most parts of the country. It's good beer, comes in various forms, and it seems to be surviving against the predations of the major companies who tend to acquire any profitable brewer and sanitise its product into that horrible generic product available everywhere. Cooper's Sparkling Ale has added yeast in the bottle to give it a cloudy, unappetising appearance. This deters other people from drinking your beer.

John Gray mentioned the very fine Cascade Pale Ale from southern Tasmania. In recent times, Cascade Premium Light has gained a strong following due to its close resemblance to 'real' beer and its low alcohol content (but not in that order).

Since this thread has been dominated by northern hemisphere content, may I contribute some comments about 'northern' beer from the end of a hot summer day in New South Wales?

I'm pleased to agree with JohnB that the Unibroue beers from Chambly in Quebec are mighty fine. I recommend La Fin Du Monde (9%) and Maudite (8%) as a result of pleasant experiences at the Folk Alliance Convention in Vancouver last February. They are definitely not for quaffing.

Thanks to jeffp for reminding me about Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. There's hope for American brewing yet. Very tasty drop.

I won't presume to choose favourites from UK beers. Real ale is an art form, a way of life, a passion. And I reckon you have to be drinking it for at least six months to cope with warm beer. Or at least six pints. Whichever comes first. Personally, I find English beer very similar to ballet. It's been around for a long time, I'm sure it takes a lot of skill to produce it, but I find it's too expensive and it takes too long to get to the end.

However, the most important aspect of any beer, when we get down to it, is the quality of their t-shirts.

Dicho mentioned BigRock from Calgary. I've been wearing my BigRock Warthog Ale t-shirt for years, but my wife won't let me wear it out in public.

Same thing goes for my Moose Drool Brown Ale t-shirt from Big Sky Brewing in Missoula MT. She says I make the moose look sad.

In 1978 I bought a Fullers ESB sweatshirt in London, but I outgrew it almost immediately. Extra Special Bitter indeed! Now that was a good English beer.

Enough. Good night.

Bruce

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 12:45 PM

How about mead? Can it be bought anywhere in the world? Or do you have to brew it yourself or time-machine yourself back to Beowulf's time? I've never tried it and I'd like to.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 02:25 PM

I started drinking GOOD beer about 1977, when I moved to the Wash DC area and could buy imported stuff in the stores....strated collecting the bottles/cans about the same time. and like JohnB, the rule is, I have to empty them...I have maybe 700??? (some are in boxes, as I ran totally out of shelf space)......

The thing is, the microbrewery industry in the US was just being revived in 1977, and I have some wonderful memories of following new beers..(I have one bottle from New Albion Brewery, the first 'real' microbrewery to try it..(not counting Anchor, who was sort of always there)

I have old bottles from Australia..(Tooths Sheaf Stout...Coopers Real Ale..etc..)...I love Belgian beers, and would kill for an Orval Ale...(or Bios Copper Ale...or Rodenbach).....but we CAN get almost any style of beer brewed in the USA now, and brewpubs are growing daily...

(I just had an Old Scrooge Christmas Ale, from Silver City Brewing in WA state....YUM!...brewed 1999, sold 2000, drunk 2001)

I think I'll take some digital photos of my 'wall' and post some memories....

Subject: Lyr Add: SEVEN BEERS WITH THE WRONG WOMAN
From: Deckman
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 04:54 PM

I'm a vodka man myself ... being Finn and all. However I thought I could contribute something educational here. Here's a song I learned from John Weiss in 1974. He learned it from the great Alice Stuart who recorded it in the fifties:

SEVEN BEERS WITH THE WRONG WOMAN

Seven beers with the wrong woman, we sat at a table for two,
The next thing I knowed she whispered, Oh boy I could sure go for you,
My heart beat a little bit quicker, As I held her dear little hand,
I swelled up with pride but Oh how she lied, I sure was a foolish young man.

Seven beers with the wrong woman, she made me get up and dance,
Around and around we circled, 'till I missed the money from my pants,
I asked her if she had seen it, she smiled up at me and said "no",
From that day to me, it's a big mystery,
I wonder just where it did go.

Seven beers with the wrong woman, her husband walked in after that,
Soon as he spied us together, He walked up and gave me a spat,
He took me by the seat of my britches, oy he sure jerked up the slack,
And when I got tossed out the door by the boss,
He told me to never come back.

Seven beers with the wrong woman, has left me with only regret
I guess she was only fooling, when she called me her darling and pet,
I wish the Lord had made Adam, and never made any one else,
And one thing I know, the next place I go,
I'm 'gonna buy fourteen beers for myself!

CHEERS, Bob Nelson

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 06:47 PM

Well, I'll tell you something. Running down American Beers, and especially Budweiser, is something of a national obsession. But a lot of people who knock Bud and then rave about some Strawberry Blonde sticky-sweet swill...well, they ain't beer drinkers! Bud is a decent pilsner, with a nice hoppy start and very smooth finish, and if you're having more than one, its an easy beer to stick with. And, although I think Guinness is great beer, one is usually plenty for me.

I like a lot of pilsners and lagers, and find that the Mexicans are making some of the best erst-while "German" pilsners. I like Tecate and Dos Equis, but Bohemia is one of the best beers obtainable. I like these beers with a fresh lime slice. Sue me.

Among German beers, I like St Pauli and Becks, but their very hoppy taste and bitter finish make them a bit stale when drinking more than one or two.

Canadian beers...ah well. I have had a few local beers that were good, but the majority (Molson, Labatts, Moosehead) I find characterless.

I don't like lemon, honey, strawberries or chocolate in beer. I had a red pepper beer once that had a nice sharp taste.

I like many English "Best Bitters" that I've had, but they taste better pulled from the keg, and seem to lose flavor on canning.

New Zealanders, I think you have a nice beer in Steinlager, although I've noticed some fluctuation in quality.

The worst beer I've ever had was a Belgian beer called Celi's from somewhere in Texas. It had the distinct taste of rotting apples.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Beer
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 06:52 PM

Keith's

Subject: RE: Beer
From: John Gray
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 07:02 PM

Bruce from Bathurst.
I'm going down to the pub (Frankston / Vic )later today Bruce so I'll get a 6-pak of Coopers Special per your recommendation.
An interesting website to visit is the Long Distance Travellers. This is a group that tastes all the beers being imported into Australia and reviews them. Bugger of a job but someone has to do it.
They are on http://members.ozemail.com.au/~naibor/ldt/start.htm
Beside the normal meaning, the word "traveler" is slang in Oz for a can/bottle of beer that you take with you to drink between watering holes e.g. the pub to the party. The number of travelers taken is generally linked to the distance between waterholes. "How far away is the party mate?" "Bout an hour". "Ah, well 'bout 6 travelers each should keep us from dehydratin'"
With all the drink driving laws tightened up over the past 25 years the traveler has all but disappeared from urban areas but lives on in the vast outback regions.
Long Distance Travellers = beer imported from other countries.

JG / FME

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 07:36 PM

ah,LEJ...no one is going to sue you, but the beers you list as favorites ARE the sort that have gotten the US a reputation as having beer with little flavor, and that must be drunk icy cold to be tolerated. Even the best of those, i.e., Becks and the Mexican beers you name, are fairly bland for MY taste....but as you know, YOU are in the majority.

As to Celis..*grin*...send ME all you can't drink!...especially Grand Cru!..Celis had a Belgian background, and I love most of their products.

Budweiser?...sorry, I doubt you could pay me to drink one. They have some pretty horses, though....say..I wonder...that Bud 'tang'....nawww, they wouldn't...

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:08 PM

This is up to 84 posts, so I feel fairly safe doing this. Just recieved the following from a cousin. Tongue firmly in cheek, here friends, this is a JOKE OK!?

Date rape drug targeting males

Police warn all clubbers, party-goers and unsuspecting pub regulars to be alert and stay cautious when offered a drink from any woman.

A new date rape drug on the market called "beer" is used by many females to target unsuspecting men. The drug is generally found in liquid form and is now available almost anywhere.

"Beer" is used by female sexual predators at parties and bars to persuade their male victims to go home and have sex with them.

Typically, a woman needs only to persuade a guy to consume a few units of "beer" and then simply ask him home for no-strings-attached sex. Men are rendered helpless against this approach. After several "beers" men will often succumb to desires to perform sexual acts on horrific looking women to whom they would never normally be attracted.

After drinking "beer" men often awaken with only hazy memories of exactly what happened to them the night before, often with just a vague feeling that something bad occurred.

At other times these unfortunate men are swindled out of their life's savings in a familiar scam known as "a relationship." Apparently, men are much more susceptible to this scam after "beer" is administered and sex is offered by the predatory female.

Please! Forward this warning to every male you know. However, if you fall victim to this insidious "beer" and the predatory women administering it, there are male support groups with venues in every town where you can discuss the details of your shocking encounter in an open and frank manner with similarly affected, like minded guys.

For the support group nearest you, just look up "Golf Courses" in the yellow pages

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:45 PM

You know, Bill, I just might have a bottle of that Celi's stuff in the back of the fridge, if it hasn't gone off. But then...how would you be able to tell? Now hand me a Bohemia and a lime slice and bugger off! :>}

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 08:57 PM

Funny how we all have our favorites.. yeah, the micro-brewery craze,fad,movement in this country has been great.Back in the 50's when I first hit drinking age, they used to sell beer at gas stations... a six pack for a buck. Beats twenty minutes of long distance calling. Gas station beer was the lowest form of beverage known to mankind,and the lousiest of the gas station beers in my mind was Carling's Black Label... now graciously defunct, as far as I know. In 1961, I spent a summer 800 miles North of Alaska doing research for Columbia University on an iceberg. Through government incompetence, each man on the Ice Island was given two cases of beer. Theoretically to use to take water samples.) The prized beer of all beers? Yep. Carling's Black Label. And nary a gas station in sight.
Jerry

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Justa Picker
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 09:01 PM

I thought the joke was cute Sorch and appreciate the twist.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 09:36 PM

Apparently nobody else has noticed........grin.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: O'Trasno
Date: 13 Jan 02 - 10:17 PM

Sorcha.....

Direct Hit!

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Raptor
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 08:48 AM

Truth be told I'm alergec to beer.
18 or 19 and I get realy sick!
Raptor

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 10:27 AM

the cheap beer when I was in college in Kansas was "Canadian Ace"...79¢ a 6/pack...it was called, tongue-in-cheek, 'Faculty Beer'...the local liquor store kept it stacked in cases right by the front door, and would typically go thru 10-12 cases on a weekend.

I wish I'd could get some now...perhaps LEJ would appreciate some...;>))

sure would be boring if we all agreed on taste, huh?

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 11:02 AM

Carling Black label is still going in the UK - dunno if it's the same as the 'Gas station beer' mentioned though. I think it is pretty bad but as I said I like the stronger flavoured dark beers.

I'm also with Rapter - I used to find that more than 10 pints of Holts bitter would make me turn into the incredible hulk - I'd go green and my shirt would rip open. Mind you, it used to rip from the bottom up for some strange reason...

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,Marc
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 01:31 PM

Good beer is nice when you haveing a couple. But theres nothing like cheep american yellow beer for large quantities of drinkin' an' jammin'. At home I drink Narragansett, fortunatly for me it's not served in bars anymore, so it's a couple a Guiness then drive home safely. The problem with good beer on draft is, half the time you order it its stale.

marc

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Abuwood
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 02:24 PM

No- one's mentioned Piddle? Am I the only one who likes Piddle in the Hole, Piddle in the Snow, Piddle in the Wind, and of course Royal Piddle only a £1 a pint at my local. Keep your lagers and your cold eurofizz, give me pints of proper beer only.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 04:22 PM

My college beer was Great Lakes, available at Giant Foods for $2.99 a case back in 1970. It was the only beer we could afford in the quantities we needed, and still be able to buy food. Tasted fine after about the seventh one.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: gnu
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 06:20 PM

Beer... Keith's ? You must like it a lot. What part of NS are ye from, lad ?

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Burke
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 07:44 PM

My local brewery, Matt's puts out several that I really like. I guess my favorites that are brewed year round are Saranac Black & Tan and Saranac Black Forest.

The problem with US beer drinking is insisting that it be ice cold. Stout that's been in the refrigerator looses half of its taste. Basement temperature works really well to bring out the sweetness & still refresh.

I've been on the brewery tour enough to know the difference between ales & lagers. I like ales much better.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Amergin
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 09:42 PM

over in astoria, or there is/was (not sure if it is still there) a nice brewpub that had this fine beer called Peacock Spit...we would go there all the time drink a few pitchers and go staggering back.....it had a pleasant atmosphere....the folks who owned the place were friendly...and would sometimes buy us beer...the folks who worked there loved us...they would sometimes do the same...or charge us half price....maybe drunken smiles that place brought us...towards the end of my two year stint there, though it changed hands and then it was no longer so friendly...more businesslike...i would find myself cut off after three pints....stopped going...and then i left astoria...

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Beer
Date: 14 Jan 02 - 10:02 PM

Gnu....... I'm from West Chezzetcook but have been living on the outskirts of Montreal for the past 25 years. Finally were able to buy Keith's up this way. Anytime I sit with one in my hand I want to go home. So guess what, I'm jumping in my country caddalic ( Pick-Up ) and leaving Wednesday morning. Where you from Gnu? You must be a Bluenoser or Herring Choker to have notice my reply to the ? of Beer.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jan 02 - 07:01 AM

Moncton. Originally Three Miles In Back of Beyond, in western Kent County, NB... I got me a Country Cadillac too. Worked all over A-Canada, mostly NF & L. I ain't a Bluenoser, but I've drank a few Kieth's at the Bluenose.

Hope you have a safe trip... we got a heavy snofall warning issued for tonight and part of Wednesday. Weather for Moncton is at http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/scripts/citygen.pl?client=ECCDN_e&city=YQM

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 15 Jan 02 - 07:13 AM

No-one has lived until they've tasted TODGER'S OLD SCROTUM. Truely a classic ale, hard to find but especially good when your SROTUM is pulled by hand

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Aidan Crossey
Date: 15 Jan 02 - 08:31 AM

If having a few beers in the house, therefore out of a bottle or a can, T favour the following:

Stout/Porter - Guinness draught (tins); Guinness Original (bottled); Young's Double Chocolate (bottles)

Bitters/Ales - (all in bottles) Old Engine Oil, Wells' Bombardier; Black Sheep; Ruddle's County; Bishop's Finger; Newcastle Brown

Lagers - Ostravar (local shop sells 500ml bottles for £1 and it's a tasty enough beer for washing down a take-away curry).

In pubs - Guinness unless the Guinness is shit in which case I'll drink just about anything else (in a small bucket).

Subject: RE: Beer
From: The Walrus at work
Date: 15 Jan 02 - 08:47 AM

Abuwood

"...Piddle in the Hole, Piddle in the Snow, Piddle in the Wind, and of course Royal Piddle..."
I've never come across these before, would I be right in assuming that they are Dorset brews?

Walrus

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Snuffy
Date: 15 Jan 02 - 09:03 AM

Definitely not, Walrus. they're from the Wyre Piddle Brewery in the village of (you guessed it) Wyre Piddle in Worcestershire.

WassaiL! V

Subject: RE: Beer
From: gnomad
Date: 15 Jan 02 - 09:14 AM

Temperature keeps raising its head here. British beers are generally best not warm (as is often supposed by those overseas) but at cellar to room temperature, nobody who lives here would mistake either of those for warm!

That said many UK lagers are improved by deep chilling, it takes away the awful taste.

To all our overseas friends who think they don't like UK beer I would invite them to come and try it in situ, the stuff you receive in cans and bottles is seldom even an approximation of the real stuff.

Recommendations? Almost any of the non-national names, go to a free house (ie not tied to a particular brewery) and sample until you find a good fit, this may take a while as even a small pub may have a dozen brews on at a time, and yes, you can taste differences.

One local micro-brew I loved when I lived in North Lincs was Willies from Cleethorpes. Decent, sensibly priced, and the best slogan for years "We like our Willies pulled by hand".

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,rlhoek
Date: 24 Feb 08 - 02:02 PM

I like most beers, but prefer the europian ones the best.
Mostly the Irish.. Harps is damn good so is the dutch Heinken.As for A&B Michelob isn't bad if you can't afford the imports.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Feb 08 - 02:33 PM

My first thought on reading the opening to this thread was "Has Raptor remarried?" then realized this is a very old thread. So sad, so much has passed since he started it.

I hope all is well with you, Raptor. How are you doing these days?

I've been exploring beers, by the way. I've found several very good German brews.

SRS

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Feb 08 - 08:45 PM

I am, as I type, having a Longhammer IPA. It is not bad...not like Dogfish Head, but little is.

Glad to see this old thread, even though it was revived with references to very average beers.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Feb 08 - 09:02 PM

By golly...I said 6 years ago that I was gonna take pics of my 'wall' of beer bottles, and since then, with a new computer, I have an easy way to do it...so I just did.

Here is part of the USA section

and part of the English/Scottish section

(excuse the dust..it's right outside the woodshop)

That's maybe a tenth of what I have stuffed in boxes & shelves.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Feb 08 - 09:04 PM

I see there's part of the Belgian stuff showing also.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Feb 08 - 09:29 PM

Oh Bill......yer incorrigible you iz.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Peace
Date: 24 Feb 08 - 09:35 PM

Ralph Nader matters. I'm posting that here because I posted on one of the Nader threads that beer matters. Tryin' to keep it egalitarian.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Feb 08 - 10:45 PM

That is quite a collection, Bill. And you drank them all yourself? Have you some way of keeping track of your favorites out of all of those brands and varieties?

SRS

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Beer
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 12:32 AM

aaaah Beer.
beer

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 10:56 AM

SRS..my rule is, it don't get on the shelf unless I drink it myself. I once made a half-hearted attempt to apply a rating system, but it would have been mostly to decide what to buy again, and too many disappear for it to make much difference.
   The very sight of the bottle often reminds me, and I now have a general idea of what is available. (and I can't afford to RE-try everything, anyway, as the collection is now 30 years old) I add a few new items every year...mostly of stuff that very thoughtful folks bring me from England, Wales, Canada, ...and occasional items from local breweries.

also-- I drink 'em at a far slower pace than I used to! I got some wonderful stuff for Xmas, and am still working on those!

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 07:09 PM

Beer! refresh..... isn't this more interesting than more bad puns or wild comments about Ralph Nader?

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Beer
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 07:20 PM

So what brand are you going to try this evening Bill D?
Me I'm having an Alexandra Keith's.
Beer (adrien)

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 07:26 PM

I think a Canadian lager...Creemore Springs...one of the few actually GOOD lagers I have ever had. It was a present last Nov., and I have 2 left. You can't save lagers like you can barleywines and such dark stuff.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 10:34 PM

it don't get on the shelf unless I drink it myself.

That's odd; in my case it don't get OFF the shelf unless I drank it myself.

I miss beer.... had to give it up because (A) the calories added up too fast at the rate I like to drink it (NA) and (B) never trust a fart, OK-- but NEVER trust a beer fart, esp when yer the pastor's wife out and about! :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Beer
Date: 25 Feb 08 - 11:23 PM

lol Susan.
Bill D, I know I could Goggle it but would prefer not to. Where Is Creemore Springs beer found? Maybe i could get to try it.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Feb 08 - 03:31 PM

In Creemore,Ontario

Subject: RE: Beer
From: irishenglish
Date: 26 Feb 08 - 04:43 PM

Top 5 in no particular order:

Guinness
Bass Ale
Newcastle Brown Ale
Sam Adams Octoberfest
Corona (nothing like it on a triple h summer day in NYC)

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Beer
Date: 26 Feb 08 - 07:02 PM

Thanks Bill for the link. I hadn't heard of the place before.
Beer (adrien)

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 08 - 08:14 PM

By far the finest draught beer in Cornwall is Sharp's Doom Bar. A true cask-conditioned bitter produced by a brewery of real integrity. It is well-hopped (no crappy hop extracts) but is sweetly malty with pronounced fruit esters and fresh, green hoppiness on the nose. At 4.0% you can quaff it all night, unlike that horribly-headachey Abbot's muck and most of the brews from St Austell (though I can drink Tribute at a pinch). Skinners' beers (of Truro) are well worth avoiding in my opinion.   Sharp's also make a beautiful bottle-conditioned beer called Chalky's Bite (Chalky was Rick Stein's dog), and the beer, subtly flavoured with Cornish fennel, is a fabulous aperitif and is also wonderful with seafood. It should be treated with respect at 6.8%, but it's as clean and fresh as a whistle.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Feb 08 - 08:40 PM

Sounds lovely, Steve....that is the way I feel about the various Dogfish Head brews from Delaware, USA. There's one for every taste, and they don't do anything badly. They make 3 different IPAs, each better than the last...and some strong, almost barleywine stuff also...

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Beer
Date: 26 Feb 08 - 10:03 PM

So Bill it sounds as if you know your Beer. What would you recommend as a good American one?

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,Rog Peek at work
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 03:45 AM

I never drink lager as I believe it is cruel to factory farm gnats!

Rog

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 11:39 AM

Beer...where are you? There are many good American beers these days, though you may need to be near an urban center to find a shop which carries an assortment. The only true way to find some to YOUR liking is to try a variety. If you have any access to that Dogfish Head type from Delaware, that's a good place to start...but for perfectly decent, easily available selection, the Sam Adams line or anything from Red Hook (Washington State) will let you find a direction....and any store which carries them, should have others.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Amos
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 11:50 AM

Karl Strauss is our local hero -- he makes a nice reddish lagerish sorta brew.

But for serious discussions, Guinness rules.



A

Subject: RE: Beer
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 11:51 AM

"I never drink lager as I believe it is cruel to factory farm gnats!"

You've tasted the wrong lagers. The swill that the the large brewers put out is not a true reprentation.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Beer
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 11:56 AM

Quebec Bill
Beer (adrien)

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 11:57 AM

and as I said above...get some Creemore Springs.

(Amos...Guiness is quite good, but Sam Smith's Oatmeal Stout might turn your head)

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 12:00 PM

(or, "Imperial Russian Stout" I think it's called)

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 12:01 PM

I have no idea what they import up there, Adrien.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 03:30 PM

I can't stand Guinness but I like Harp.
I like Molson but Labatts always gives me a headache.
Beck's is a good buzz without much of a hangover.
Foster's is pretty good and also the only Australian beer I've ever seen around here.
The very best I've ever tasted is Great Lakes Christmas Ale. This is a Cleveland micro-brewery and not the cheap stuff from the 50's that someone mentioned earlier. The Christmas Ale comes out around the beginning of December and has flown off the shelves before the Holiday arrives.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 05:07 PM

The 'very best you've tasted' gets into the type of high-quality, lower production I have been talking about. The others are run-of-the-mill mass-market items. I think it's been 10 years since I had ANY of those.

(In Kansas, in the 1970s, we used to think Foster's was 'special'...called it "Foster's 40 weight" after the resemblance to a can of motor oil.)

Subject: RE: Beer
From: RangerSteve
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 06:18 PM

Bill D. - I just tried some Dogfish Head 60 Minute IPA today. WOW!.
I'm not good at describing tastes, but that was like nothing else I've ever had. I'll definately be buying more.

I like to support local micro-breweries, so I've been buying River Horse from Lambertville, NJ. Their beers are my favorite. Saranac, from Utica, NY has some good ones. Considering that they're from the same brewery that once made Utica Club, which was crap, they've really made an improvement. Also, Blue Moon, which I believe is Canadian, isn't bad. Any brand that labels itself as a "Winter Ale" is usually good. I don't understand why no one can brew it year round.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 07:21 PM

Dogfish Head will spoil you!

Blue Moon, if we are thinking of the same thing...(Belgian style white beer?) was ok, but never impressed me after tasting Hoegaardens White from Belgium. If I could have ONE beer trip, it would be to Belgium.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 07:50 PM

I just realized I have 3 "60 Minute IPAs" left...well, 2½ now...yum!

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Rog Peek
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 05:54 PM

I'll take your word for that Ron. Forgive me if I stick with my Guinness.

Rog

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 06:29 PM

Its been15 years since I had my all time favorite beer directly from Denmark called Giraffe.

if its not from Denmark its a forgery.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 07:10 PM

Does it come in a long-necked bottle?

Subject: RE: Beer
From: RangerSteve
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 02:03 PM

After trying my first bottle of Dogfish Head beer, I went to their website to see what they had to say about themselves. I was curious about what went into their 60 Minute IPA. It tasted kind of herbal to me, but nothing I could pin down. It turns out it has "Notes of citrus". All thier beers have "notes" of something. They also recommend the proper shapes of the glasses you should be drinking from. Being an uneducated boor, I drink from the bottle, presumabely missing out on the beer experience. They also tell you what foods to pair the beers with. Beer is not an effeminate experience. It is not supposed to be enjoyed with foix gras, truffles and other snob food. It shouldn't be drunk from dainty glasses, and you shouldn't have to buy a dozen different types of glasses to enjoy various beers with each course in a meal. My meals don't even have courses. The rule for beer, like wine, should be: drink what you want, when you want, how you want. Screw these dainty types who mince around with their meaningless adjectives. Beer wasn't created for little girls. It's a grown up drink for men. Women are welcome, but remember, it's not pretty and never will be.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Feb 08 - 02:46 PM

I drink it 'mostly' out of wooden mugs that I have made myself & a couple of leather mugs I bought...but I also have some glass & pottery mugs and glasses. (the wood & leather ones act as their own coaster, so I don't have to worry about wood surfaces)

ANY experience, including drinking various things, is what you make it. I often have food with my beer...but I often don't. I'm no gourmet, but I do see why some like to enhance dining with selected wine or beer.

*grin* "uneducated boors" at least save on the space I allocate to all my mugs.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Beer
Date: 11 Jul 10 - 10:33 PM

Started drinking a local brewed beer called Trembley. Like it lots and besides you get a free cap in the case.
ad.

Subject: RE: Beer
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Jul 10 - 11:03 PM

Ummmm, first of all I never saw this thread...

Second, and ya'll listen up real carefully... When yer passin' thru Western Pa. I want you to stop in any establishmnet that sells beer and you go back to the cooler where the cheap stuff is and you pull you out an icey cold sixpack of "Iron City Beer" and take yerseff and that sixpack of iced cold Iron City somewhere that ya'll ain't gonna get busted and you and that Iron City get acquainted, if ya get my drift here???

Now peoples talk about all kinds of life changin' experiences and I'm here to tell ya' that that is exactly what is gonna happen...

But wait... Here's the best part... You can buy a sixpack of Iron "real beer" City fir the price of one lousy bottle of these fancy micro-brewery beer-wantabees???

What is that about???

B~

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 12 Jul 10 - 10:21 AM

If I was passing through Western PA, I think I'd buy Rolling Rock.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: frogprince
Date: 12 Jul 10 - 10:41 AM

A&W, either straight or squoshed up with ice cream.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Jul 10 - 12:18 PM

LOL! I just happily re-read most of this thread, wondering what had refreshed it. I am glad Beer has found a good local brew...

but I gotta giggle at Bobert's insistence that Iron City is 'special'.

A "life changin' experience", he says.... Yup! You don't think that beer got it's name just from its locale, do you? Why, I suspect doctors up there give it to patients with iron-poor blood! Drink too much, and you may start to rust iffn you get wet!

I will admit Iron City HAS flavor..(unlike some American beer)... but last time I tried some, I felt my tongue trying to point North for a couple hours. ☺

I just last night had some CopperHook from the RedHook brewery. Really decent, refreshing Spring Ale with taste.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jul 10 - 12:32 PM

Hurrrrummmffff!!!

Mean mouth Iron City, will ya'??? Best beer out there by far!!! I gotta a sixpack of it in my studio refrig right now... I save 'um fir special occasions...

As fir all them micro-brews beer-wantabees, like Copperhook, I wouldn't drink one at a goat fu*kin'...

B;~)

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 12 Jul 10 - 01:37 PM

Just performed woth Shanty men at the Weymouth 'Spirit of the Sea' and Dorset sea food Festival. main stage inBrewers Quay, mwhere the Devenish Brewery building now has multiple uses, including the Dorset Brewin Company's micro Brewery. They produce a suprisigly large range, quite impressed by 'Jurassic' and 'Durdle Door'.

http://www.dbcales.com/

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Beer
Date: 12 Jul 10 - 01:47 PM

Bobert!, what is the alcohol content of the Iron City beer?
ad.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: kendall
Date: 12 Jul 10 - 07:50 PM

Samuel Adams' Summer Ale.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 02:22 AM

Can't get real ale here in Co. Clare (as far as I know). The next best thing currently is Morland's Old Speckled Hen & Fuller's London Pride in bottles available from Super Valu supermarket in Ennistymon.!

Incidentally, are the moderators asleep, the previous poster seems to have appeared in a number of similar recent postings under different pseudonyms?

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: John J
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 04:19 AM

Draught:
Generally any decent cask conditioned, full bodied and flavoursome, bitter-ish ale.

In the north of England (and sometimes available further afield): Timothy Taylor Landlord

More local to me (north Cheshire): virtually anything from the Dunham Microbrewery.

Bottled:
Current favourites: Badger 'Golden Glory' and Shepherd Neame 'Early Bird', although many bitterish bottle conditioned ales are excellent.

Cans: (only in emergency!)
Badger 'Tanglefoot'

JJ

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,Steamin' willie
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 04:31 AM

Pale Rider.

Nothing has knocked it off its perch for a a good few years now....

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 10:47 AM

My favourite is Deuchar's IPA, preferably served by fount rather than handpump, which means I have to go to the "Royal Oak", Infirmary Street Edinburgh (and enjoy the music).

As for lagers, my favourite is Staropranem dark, though last time I drank some, I had to go to Prague.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Edthefolkie
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 11:45 AM

The Thornbridge Hopton Pale was rather good at the VicFest in Beeston yesterday, causing a dancing attack around 2000 hrs. I then fell out of bed at 0258 hrs causing mild abrasions.

Incidentally one of the performers was a Jim Carroll in an excellent band called Acushla. Was it Mudcat's Jim Carroll? - if so jolly well played and sung Jim!

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Charmion
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 12:03 PM

Since the bankruptcy of the Hart Brewing Company of Carleton Place, Ontario and the disappearance of its lead product, Dragon's Breath Pale Ale, Edmund and I have drunk our way around the province in search of a viable replacement. We have finally identified a successor: Sgt. Major by the Scotch Irish Brewing Company of Fitzroy Harbour, Ontario.

Unfortunately, it is not consistently available, even at the LCBO.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 02:13 PM

A local brew, Big Rock Brewery, which makes fine beers and ales.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 05:24 PM

More beer-wantabees...

(((yawn)))

Iron City Rocks!!!

Okay, it might not have 8% alcohol... That's a good thing 'cause it's so good that once you drenk one you'll wanta drenk 20... Ya'll drenk you a couple of them beer wantabees an' yer on the side of the road pukin'... But if that's what ya'll think is fun then have at them Iron City Wantabees...

Like I say, Iron City is the world's best beer...

B~

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Joe_F
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 06:26 PM

What I keep in my fridge is usually one or another version of Sam Adams. In public I try to be adventurous, but Bass Ale or Guinness is a frequent choice.

The potent anti-snob appeal of Budweiser is attested in the following story, which I read in the Boston Globe some years ago. The venerable saloon Doyle's in Jamaica Plain, Boston, MA, came under new management, which aspired to move upscale. To get rid of the riffraff, it ceased to serve Budweiser, and the new owner was quoted as being well pleased with the results.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jul 10 - 06:34 PM

Well, well, well... Joe F and I agree on one thing... Guiness Stout ain't half bad now and then... You know, when it's after midnight on Saturday night and the beer stores are all closed and you just run outta Irin City but ya' got a couple Guinesses in the frig...

B~

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,Patsy Warren
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 07:12 AM

London Pride & Spitfire beers are my favourite but tend to drink them in autumn and winter. Caffrey's is another one that I like but again it isn't a thirst quencher so I wouldn't drink this in warm weather.

On a slightly different topic can somebody tell me if Barley wine is realy a wine or is it classed as a strong malt beer? It is an acquired bitter taste, strong and hoppy and very potent. I haven't seen the stuff for ages. If anyone knows where I can buy it please could they let me know? I can't seem to find it in the local supermarkets.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: vectis
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 08:20 AM

I am about to embark on a week or so in Otter country (Sidmouth). Delicious

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 08:31 AM

If I'm in a restaurant that carries it (only one that I currently know, here in Indianapolis), I'll order Wahrsteiner Dunkel, a German dark beer.

If they don't have that, my first reflex is to order Blue Moon.

If I'm at my "neighborhood Brew Pub", I'll order what they call Lawnmower Ale. If in the winter, I'll make my lame joke about how they should call it Snowblower Ale.

For consumption at home, I enjoy Fat Weasel Ale, from Trader Joe's.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 11:16 AM

I moved house and job a hundred miles to live in Adnams country, with Tolly Cobbold as a distant second choice, but since Tolly's demise as a cask beer, Earl Soham 'Victoria' or Woodforde's 'Wherry' have filled in (and up) nicely. In a bottle, there's nothing to touch St Peter's.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 11:47 AM

I posted way back in 2002 that 'would kill for an Orval Ale'...now I don't have to....I was give one for Christmas. Now I have the dilemma that, once I drink it, it will be gone, so I am pondering what 'occasion' is JUST right.

This suggests my revised answer to the original question:

If I was condemned, or had to choose ONE beer for my last, it might well be an Orval....but if the question is: "What beer would I choose for a lifetime supply on a desert island?" I might choose one of the Dogfish Head IPAs.
This choice could easily be revised over time if I could sample all those interesting items mentioned above by others...especially in England.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 06:03 PM

``Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?``

Adrien Doucette.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 06:09 PM

*grin*

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: maeve
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 06:48 PM

GUEST 999- Same, me.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: maple_leaf_boy
Date: 27 Jul 10 - 07:11 PM

Keith's has been around Atlantic Canada since 1820, and they started
brewing it out West this past year. Or they will be soon. I read it
somewhere that they were expanding.

I like Keith's, and I like it lukewarm. That's why I bring my own
booze to parties, because if I get offered a beer, it's always cold.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: gnu
Date: 18 Mar 11 - 02:42 PM

Have another beer Mike... or is it Charley?

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 18 Mar 11 - 02:48 PM

What beer is your current favorite?

Look, man, I don't swim in beer. I drink it. Know'm sayin'? If there was enuff to swim in, I would still drink it.

- Shane

p.s. The idea of havin' a river of beer is a damm good one. Someone should talk to the flippin' Ministry of lakes and rivers or somethin' and see if it can be done. Peple would not hafta go to the Beer Store no more.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 18 Mar 11 - 06:21 PM

Krusovice - the Royal Czech beer

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,amergin
Date: 18 Mar 11 - 06:29 PM

ninkasi ipa....lots of flavour, you can taste the hops...and a couple of bottles or so will knock you flat on your ass.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 07:09 AM

Cider

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 07:37 AM

Cheshire Gold Beer. A pale golden beer brewed entirely from malted Maris Otter barley grown in Yorkshire and hopped with target hops with a late addition of whole leaf green bullet hops which impart pine lemon crispness and an excellent aroma.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: saulgoldie
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 09:35 AM

Anything with character. That is to say, NOT any of the bottled American piss-beers.

I am blessed with several accessible brewpubs. Growlers, Dogfishhead, Rock Bottom, and Gordon Biersch. They all have a good variety. They all carry at least one stout, and a couple of other beers that I can happily drink. One or two is always sufficient. But whatever I am drinking, my favorite is a beer with good company.

Saul

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 12:24 PM

If all the beer in the world disappeared, I wouldn't blink an eye. I have no current favorite when it comes to beer. ;-)

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 01:49 PM

ONE beer? Chimay Ale from Belgium.... blue label.

What do I drink on a semi-regular basis? Several good IPAs...

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Mike in Brunswick
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 04:03 PM

Early in this thread, nine years ago, a couple of people mentioned Old Peculier (note correct spelling)from Yorkshire. It's one of my favorites, but in recent years I've been having trouble finding it, either in DC or here in Maine. It used to be fairly widely available. Anyone know what happened or, more important, where I might find it? Thanks.

Mike

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,Amergin
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 04:36 PM

Another good one is bitter bitch from Astoria, Oregon

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 07:48 PM

Mike reminds me I haven't seen Old Peculier in awhile. So many to choose from, I had forgotten... I DO know a store in DC that would have it if anyone would.... (just inside DC.. south of the circle on Connecticut Ave.)

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 07:54 PM

Old Peculier, being a Theakston's beer, got swallowed up by S&N which amalgamated with Courage, so I think I've seen it recently, but as to who's brewing it now, I don't know.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 07:57 PM

It is still around!

Old Peculier from Beers of Europe

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: andrew e
Date: 20 Mar 11 - 05:19 AM

DOH the stuff that buys me beer,
RAY the guy that sells me beer,
ME the one who drinks the beer,
FAR a long way to get beer,
SO I'll have another beer,
LAger lager lager beer,
TEA? no thanks I'll have a beer,
that will bring me back to DOH, so I need some

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Max Johnson
Date: 20 Mar 11 - 10:26 AM

I was strolling through Aldi a couple of days ago, looking, wide-eyed, at all the wonderful things on display, when in a cobwebbed, dark and dusty corner I noticed an ancient, tarnished brass lamp with a strange text inscribed upon it.
Imagine my surprise! Because right next to it were a few bottles of none other than the Sierra Nevada Pale Ale which I remembered reading about on this very thread but had never seen before!

As it was on offer I bought two bottles and sampled them yesterday evening.

Who says the Yanks can't brew?! It was one of the best bottled beers I've ever tasted. Well done, chaps, and God bless America.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Mar 11 - 12:19 PM

Pale Ale is Sierra Nevada's flagship brew. They have won numerous prizes with it. They do a number of quite nice beers.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,Stan
Date: 20 Mar 11 - 12:57 PM

My favourite beer is free beer. Not every pub stocks this.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Penny S.
Date: 20 Mar 11 - 03:46 PM

Well, I've finally got beer. Back when I was a student I decided I couldn't stand the stuff. This was confirmed by a visit to Romford Brewery, when the hop store made me realise that I didn't like hops. I've since drunk cider, preferably draught.
But yesterday, I was in a Harvey's pub near Lewes, and the only cider looked like one that was going to be too sweet and fizzy. So I had Harvey's Hadlow, and found I now like beer.

Penny

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 20 Mar 11 - 08:40 PM

My current favourite beer is Watermill Dog'th Vader. I haven't looked to see what tomorrow's favourite will be.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 21 Mar 11 - 04:12 AM

Chimay Ale, I tried this one and really liked it. London Pride is the one I usually go for for flavour and Caffrey's if I want a 'lighter' guiness type of beer.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Roberto
Date: 21 Mar 11 - 09:47 AM

The cask ales from England (e.g. Tribute from Cormwall); Guinness from Dublin; Pilsner Urquell from Praha.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 21 Mar 11 - 10:00 AM

Yuengling Bock beer is now available for the spring. Very nice, I highly recommend it if you can find Yunengling near you.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,C. Ham
Date: 21 Mar 11 - 12:30 PM

Adrien Doucette is my favorite beer.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: bobad
Date: 21 Mar 11 - 01:03 PM

"Adrien Doucette is my favorite beer."

Does his wife know?

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 21 Mar 11 - 01:55 PM

"Pilsner Urquell from Praha."

Have they moved Plzsen?

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Cuilionn
Date: 21 Mar 11 - 09:01 PM

ROOT!

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 07:40 AM

Charles Wells 'Eagle' bitter:

http://www.wellsandyoungs.co.uk/home/our-beers/ales/wells-eagle

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 07:45 AM

"What beer is your current Favorite?"


One that is about five degrees above room temperature.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 07:49 AM

"What beer is your current Favorite?"

Well for starters, I don't have a favorite, but I do have a favourite....

My next one.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 04:30 PM

Adnams, and St Peter's dark porter. Have visited both breweries with a Ladies' Group, in a coach, and we supped lots of free samples and got a bit rowdy going home. (Headache next day!) I find Woodfordes too sweet, I like my bitter to BE bitter. Sadly nowadays I don't drink at all, medical reasons. But I still dream of these fine ales!

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Dad Perkins
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 04:34 PM

GENESSEE Bock. Cheap but has flavor.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 04:58 PM

I'm just off to the Ship Victory to find out what tonight's favourite is. (A clue - it's referred to informally as "the Guest").

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 07:31 PM

It is hard to have a favorite, there are just too many favorites to choose from!

(US spelling, not UK)

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 07:34 PM

Giraffe made in Denmark only.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 08:27 PM

Moosehead dry ice is what I have been drinking of late at home. Keiths IPA draught in a pub. Why does the site underline Moosehead, and draught? Those bastards can't spell for shit!

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: michaelr
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 09:14 PM

I was lucky enough recently here in California to score a 6-pack of Einbecker Urbock, the original German bock beer. It's a deep golden lager, strong at 6.5% alcohol, with a very full flavor. Talk about liquid bread!

My daily beer remains the inimitable Carlsberg Elephant.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: ClaireBear
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 10:09 PM

When I can afford it, Anderson Valley Opp Ottin IPA is a lovely brew. Maritime Pacific dry-hopped IPA is also yummy, but you have to go to Seattle to get it, 'cause they don't sell it except at restaurants, if I recall correctly.

Claire

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 07:49 PM

I've just had a bottle of Crouch Vale Brewers Gold. Roger Protz (in '300 Beers to Try Before You Die') is spot on, especially with the grapefruit.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 07:59 PM

Hard to choose. Old Thumper is nice, as is Circlemaster by Wychwood.

All time favourite is Dark Java by the Brew Company Sheffield. A nice smooth coffee stout.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 09:33 PM

In honor of the Fourth of July, Samuel Adams...actually it usually is my beer of choice.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Joe_F
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 09:46 PM

These days, I have generally settled on this or that IPA -- whatever's handy, but Saml Adams makes one.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,Josepp
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 10:49 PM

Murphy's Stout but I'll drink most any dark ale--Guinness, Beamish, London Porter, Old Engine Oil, etc. I've had oatmeal stouts, chocolate stouts. I also like Boddington's.

But gimme a Murphy's any old time!

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Jul 11 - 11:27 PM

As some of you may know, I did seceuity clearance investigations for the federal government for 25 years. Once I had ot investigate a man who had worked at the Sierra Vevada Brewery in Chico, California. I loved the place. The workers were mostly in their twenties and thirties, and they loved what they were doing. There was an air of creativity and fun at the brewery, and it seemed like it would be a wonderful place to work. In recent years, they have developed a wide variety of beers, and most of them are very good.

There's a Trappist monastery not far from Chico, and they're in the process of rebuilding an 11th century monastery chapter house that William Randolph Hearst had imported from Spain. To help with the construction, Sierra Nevada Brewery developed a beer in conjunction with the Trappists. It's called Ovila Dubbel, and it costs ten bucks for a 25-ounce, corked bottle. I bought a bottle several months ago, and I've been saving it for a special occasion. Tonight's the night, since we're having salmon and corn on the cob.

And it's an absolutely wonderful beer. It's a bit sweet, almost like brown sugar - and every expensive sip is like a trip to heaven. I like it even better than that "other" Trappist beer, Chemay.

And the salmon will be ready in three minutes.....

Cheers!!!!

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 03:10 AM

It used to be Old Hookie, but now it's hard to decide between Harveys (when I'm in Sussex) and Hog's Back T.E.A.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: saulgoldie
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 08:12 AM

I have been enjoying Blue Moon Summer honey wheat. But I am looking forward to trying Leinenfiugel's berry weiss. One ata time; no earlier than 4PM.

Saul

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: kendall
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 09:04 AM

Since visiting Ireland, Guinness.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: skipy
Date: 04 Jul 11 - 02:10 PM

I've never tried beer with currents in it!
However I do like minesweeps.
Skipy

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 05 Jul 11 - 08:21 AM

Because it is summer (and was very warm) I am drinking more ciders and lagers, in particular Magners pear cider.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: michaelr
Date: 05 Jul 11 - 01:10 PM

Kendall, do you find the Guinness here to be on par with that in Ireland? Which container do you prefer it from?

When I was in Greece, I mainly drank Mythos, a very good Pilsner-style lager. It's now being imported to the US.

Recently we conducted a blind tasting of imported Pilsners, comparing Carlsberg, Stella Artois, Mythos, Beck's and Heineken. Stella came out on top, although I prefer Mythos.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 05 Jul 11 - 10:44 PM

I've not tasted even a single molecule drop of beer for at least 5 or 6 years
due to mid life onset of probable but unproven skin & gut allergies to who know's what ingredients...???


My absolute favourite's were RCH Brewery of North Somerset
and Czech Budvar whenever I could get them on my travels.

Otherwise, Newcastle Brown and Stella or Kronenburg in most local pubs
if they couldn't provide a palatable real ale..

Since giving up beer & lager entirely I only enjoy drinking best quality local cider
and ok budget price bottles of wine.
My skin is no longer anywhere near as bad
as it was when I suffered constant itchy beer rashes...

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Jim Martin
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 12:38 AM

I still haven't found anything to beat Charles Wells (Bedford) Eagle Bitter!

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Sawzaw
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 02:00 AM

It is not my current beer but the best I ever had was Kokanee Glacier Beer.

You may ask "where do I get it?"

I don't have the foggiest because I haven't had any since 1989 when I was in BC. I keep looking though.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 09:00 PM

Giraffe from Denmark with the white sediment on the bottom of the bottle.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Jul 11 - 11:01 PM

I have recently found the lovely tastes available from Great Lakes Brewing.   Don't think I'll look much beyond them anymore.......plus they have a sense of humor. Their fine Pale Ale made in Cleveland is named "Burning River."


Spaw

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 07 Jul 11 - 06:37 AM

San Miguel was my favourite lager I remember finding it in Spain 2 decades ago when it worked out to just about 30 pence per bottle but unfortunately it became popular in the UK and now it is about the same price as most of the bottled lagers.

Subject: RE: Beer-What beer is your current Favorite?
From: Ref
Date: 07 Jul 11 - 10:22 PM

Innes & Gunn.