Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE

Subject: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Mar 02 - 04:26 AM

The other, Origins of: Found on Mudcat-PART TWO was starting to get too long, so....please post all new additions to this one.

Please remember this symbol, ^^^ , means I have transferred your link from this to the permathread. So I don't get confused.:-)

Your contributions will be added to the alphabetised Song Origins PermaThread.

Thanks!

kat

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Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Mar 02 - 04:30 AM

^^^

Goodnight Loving Trail (thread title is Midnight Loving Trail

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 30 Mar 02 - 07:04 PM

^^^

Recently, this was resurrected with great information.

Home on the Range

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 30 Mar 02 - 10:17 PM

^^^

The Shambles refreshed this thread tonight

Unchained Melody

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Apr 02 - 12:02 PM

Thanks, George! I will get these posted later this week. Great work!

kat

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 01 Apr 02 - 10:06 PM

^^^

Was just reading this one. Wonderful story.

Whaler's Tale

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 11:30 PM

^^^

Green Grow the Laurels, Green Grow the Lilacs, The Green Laurel, The Orange and Blue. This song cluster discussed at length in "Why Mexicans Call Them Gringos." Green grow

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Apr 02 - 11:55 PM

^^^

Add to the Green Grows: Green Grow the Rashes (Burns), Green Grow the Rushes.
Add thread on The Green Laurel/Green Grows the Laurel: Laurel

Do not confuse with Green Grow the Rushes O (Sandys 1833), and its cluster, including The Twelve Apostles, The Ten Commandments, Children Go Where I Send Thee, How Shall I Send Thee: Rushes O

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 16 May 02 - 06:33 PM

^^^

Excellent new link to recap on

Now Is the Hour

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 May 02 - 10:41 AM

the sick note/murphy and the bricks posted by the author himself!

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 May 02 - 07:57 PM

George and Dicho, sorry this has taken me so long to harvest this time. Please double check your links in the Permathread and let me know if there are any problems.

Thanks a bunch,

kat

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: IanC
Date: 29 May 02 - 08:13 AM

^^^

Just thought I'd mention that, whilst doing some research for one of my quizzes, I hit on a site which claimed that Roll Alabama, Roll was written by Frank Townshend. My post, containing a link to the site is here.

Cheers!
Ian

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Snuffy
Date: 31 May 02 - 09:32 AM

^^^

A couple of excellent threads on shanty origins:

Shanty: Billy O'Shea has recently been revived.

Lyr Add: Hob-i-derry Dando traces the song from Welsh love-song, through shanty to the modern "Cosher Bailey" beloved of rugby clubs.

WassaiL! V

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 03:59 PM

Thanks, Ian and Snuffy!

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 05:49 PM

Yesterday, Dicho started this one on Dawning of the Day

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Jun 02 - 12:44 AM

Thanks, George.

Here's another interesting one which is taking off: Shearing in the bar

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 01:37 PM

Twinkle Twinkle Little Star

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 02:11 PM

Not much history, but there are author's names attached to many of these songs, all in the one thread:

The Enniskillen Dragoons
Mary From Dungloe
Kitty Of Coleraine
She Moved Thro' The Fair
My Homeland, Donegal
An Old Irish Song
Beautiful Ireland
Noreen Bawn

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 06 Aug 02 - 07:25 AM

Buffalo Gals Won't You Come Out Tonighta

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 24 Aug 02 - 12:56 AM

After the Ball is Over

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 Aug 02 - 01:33 AM

East Virginia (Blues)
This one is a real can of worms. Titles of related songs in this thread:
In Old Virginny
The Drowsy Sleeper (Awake, Awake; Arise, Arise) 1817
Dark Holler
The Untrue Lover
Don't Forget Me, Little Darling
Fond Affection
Silver Dagger
We Have Met and We Have Parted
You Are False
The Broken Engagement
Broken Ties
Parting Words
Oh Molly Dear
Greenback Dollar
Little Darling
Who Is At My Window Weeping?

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Aug 02 - 03:34 AM

Great work, guys, thanks!

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 Aug 02 - 11:33 AM

Add another to the East Virginia thread 35233:
Sleepy Desert

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 24 Aug 02 - 02:40 PM

Our experts have put together another great thread; on Sir Lionel (Child 18) aka Wild Boar, etc. with its many variants.

Sir Lionel (Child 18)
Wild Boar
Jovial Hunter
Old Bangum
Sir Eglemore
Quill O'Quay
Rackabello
Brangywell
Old Badman
Bangum and the Boar
Wild Hog (in the Woods)
Old Man and His Three Sons
Rach's Spinning Song

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 24 Aug 02 - 06:19 PM

Dicho! Quite amazing!!!!! Thanks

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Aug 02 - 10:42 PM

I Will Set My Ship In Order
Go From My Window
Who Is At My Bedroom Window?
Lost Henry
Who Is That At My False Window?

Additions to East Virginia thread 35233 and East Virginia thread PART TWO 50807 (related songs East Virginia, Silver Dagger, Drowsy Sleeper and all the others)

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Aug 02 - 10:46 PM

Who's That Knockin' On My Window?
Another East Virginia related song. (East VA. thread part one, 35233)

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Aug 02 - 11:02 PM

Oops! Forgot "Katie Dear," another East Virginia cluster song.

Katie Dear
Katie Dear
Silver Dagger also in Part Two:
Silver Dagger

(Not quite sure what to do with those that have variants in both threads ONE and TWO. There will be more of them. Just refer to the 1st thread they appear in? )

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 26 Aug 02 - 11:22 PM

Turtle Old Man and our other experts have revived and expanded another great thread, 15862: "Pretty Saro." Variant titles and variant songs include:

Pretty Saro
Pretty Sarah
Pretty Sarry
Hard is the Fortune
My Love's An Arbutus

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Aug 02 - 09:45 PM

More additions to Sir Lionel-Wild boar thread 50640:
Bold Sir Rylas
Jobal Hunter

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 01:43 AM

I don't want to play in your yard other related threads to follow

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Alice
Date: 03 Oct 02 - 10:46 AM

Gerard Farrelly, son of the composer Dick Farrelly, posted the origins of his father's song ISLE OF INNISFREE Click here

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Alice
Date: 03 Oct 02 - 01:30 PM

FAREWELL TO FIUNARY, SORAIDH SLAN LE FIONNAIRIGH

Click here

Jim McLean posts to the thread about the song he wrote
SMILE IN YOUR SLEEP, aka Hush, Hush, aka Don't Cry In Your Sleep
Click here

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 05:00 PM

Very interesting song

Ilkla Moor Bah T'at

Ilkla Moor Bah T'at

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 30 Oct 02 - 10:17 PM

Another Hugh Roberton song

Tiree Love Song

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 17 Nov 02 - 07:02 AM

Ring Around the Rosey

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 07:22 PM

Cherry Tree Carol

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Nov 02 - 07:31 PM

Over the River & Through the Woods (thread title: Behind a Thanksgiving Ode)

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 30 Nov 02 - 07:37 PM

Ring Around the Rosy
Thread title: Ring Around the Rosey's History.

Origins: Dixie
Newer thread on origin of song and word Dixie, Thread title: Origins: Dixie.

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 19 Dec 02 - 08:58 PM

Great information here

Eyes of Texas Are Upon You

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 19 Dec 02 - 09:14 PM

O du lieber Augustin (Ach du -), thread 26060. Augustin

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Dec 02 - 10:15 PM

Thanks folks. I am waiting for word from Pene/Jeff as to whether he is going to continue adding these to the newly formatted section or turn it back over to me, as in the past. (When he started the new formatting, we put it on hold.) Really do appreciate your keeping up with it...good stuff.

kat

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 20 Dec 02 - 01:50 PM

Group of songs, related or possibly related to Child # 279, The Jolly Beggar.
Thread 54744:
The Gaberlunzie Man Gaberlunzie Man
A Beggarman Cam' Ower the Lea Beggarman Cam
Remember the Barley Straw Barley Straw
The Pollitick Beggar-Man (1674-1679) Pollitick Beggar-man

Thread 14627:
The Jolly Beggar Jolly Beggar

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From:
Date: 05 Mar 03 - 04:59 AM

Horn of the Hunter

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 May 05 - 09:10 PM

Refresh.
Interest lost?

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 May 05 - 12:41 AM

I think most of these and most of the new ones have been cross-linked on our Origins system, which makes this thread obsolete.
No?

The Song Origins groups are available on the QuickLinks dropdown menu.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 16 May 05 - 01:06 AM

Lots missing on the song origins drop down.

Why can't I find my favorite song, "Old (Dog) Blue"?

Or my wife's favorite, "(El) (Senor) Don Gato"?
A hell of a lot of posts on that one.

or "Miserlou"? Arabic, Sephardic, Greek and tin pan alley origins discussed there.

I could go on- or is the list for selected popular hits only? Of the first four I looked for, the only one that showed up was "Bile dem Cabbage."

Subject: RE: Origins of: Found on Mudcat:PART THREE
From: GUEST
Date: 16 May 05 - 08:54 PM

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