Subject: Oxymorons From: Stephen L. Rich Date: 16 Apr 02 - 11:26 PM Now that the "Eternal Questions" thread seems to be close to unraveling let's try a new one -- oxymorons. I'll start by getting jumbo shrimp and military intelligence out of the way. Ther is one which I wanted to mention that even George Carlin forgot -- civil war. Is there anything we do that requires less civility? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Amos Date: 16 Apr 02 - 11:42 PM My widely distributed software development team has been handed a new one by its highermanagement, a thinly disguised effort to justify continuous coping and not doing an orderly and methodical job of development according to best practices. it's called "Just-In-Time Engineering". It's not only an insult to "just-in-time" supply chain management, which can be a reasonable practice, but it is also an insult to good engineers! A |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Pete Jennings Date: 16 Apr 02 - 11:47 PM Honest politicians. Music critics. Pete |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Anahootz Date: 16 Apr 02 - 11:52 PM "live recording" "virtual reality" two of my faves oh yeah, and..."airline food" |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Troll Date: 16 Apr 02 - 11:58 PM "rap music" troll |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wincing Devil Date: 17 Apr 02 - 12:32 AM
Tame cat! |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Sorcha Date: 17 Apr 02 - 01:00 AM Shrimp Scampi Non Working Mom Fixed Pitch Instrument (I know I'll think of more.........) |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,jonm Date: 17 Apr 02 - 03:16 AM What about... Microsoft Works |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: MudGuard Date: 17 Apr 02 - 03:20 AM liquid gas keeping animals in their natural |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Date: 17 Apr 02 - 03:44 AM Mature student Bitter sweet Quiet music Military Intelligence Cruel kindness Black light |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Trevor Date: 17 Apr 02 - 04:21 AM Permanent travellers' site Child psychologist Given freedom |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wolfgang Date: 17 Apr 02 - 04:35 AM "I write folksongs" for some of the posters here the following is a single word oxymoron: Psychology Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Hrothgar Date: 17 Apr 02 - 04:40 AM Intelligent drummer.
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Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Date: 17 Apr 02 - 04:43 AM Artificial Fur Genuine reproduction Unique example |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: greg stephens Date: 17 Apr 02 - 04:53 AM Friendly fire. (though that may be unfair, it might be military black humour, irony or euphemism rather than oxymoron. It could be we need a "what do we mean by oxymoron" thread) |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Date: 17 Apr 02 - 05:10 AM Main Entry: ox.y.mo.ron Pronunciation: "äk-si-'mOr-"än, -'mor- Function: noun Etymology: Late Greek oxymOron, from neuter of oxymOros pointedly foolish, from Greek oxys sharp, keen + mOros foolish Date: 1657 Inflected Form(s): plural ox.y.mo.ra /-'mOr-&, -'mor-/ : a combination of contradictory or incongruous words (as cruel kindness) - ox.y.mo.ron.ic /-m&-'r@-nik, -mo-/ adjective - ox.y.mo.ron.i.cal.ly /-ni-k(&-)lE/ adverb
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Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Date: 17 Apr 02 - 05:11 AM From the dictionary definition I posted above, should the thread title be "Oxymora" ? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: MudGuard Date: 17 Apr 02 - 05:20 AM got another one: tasty haggis (is that Scottish stuff spelled this way?) |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: greg stephens Date: 17 Apr 02 - 05:25 AM Thanks for clarification Nigel. My point is: what is "friendly fire"? Is it oxymoron (combination of contradictory or incongruous words); irony (intended meaning is the opposite of that of the words used); or euphemism (substitution of mild or innocuous wordfor more harsh or offensive term)? Or some combination of all three? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: bill\sables Date: 17 Apr 02 - 06:11 AM McDonalds Restaurant |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Date: 17 Apr 02 - 06:51 AM Greg: I think for once (maybe I should rephrase that clause!). On this occasion I believe (that's better) the British Politicians have exactly the apposite phrase! "Friendly Fire" comes under the heading of "Weasel Words" (a form of euphamism used by politicians deliberately to mislead, or to evade the point) |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Stephen L. Rich Date: 17 Apr 02 - 07:13 AM Amos -- I agree Wincing Devil -- applause for "Tame Cat" Nigel Parsons -- plural noted. I'll know next time. GUEST,jonm -- YES!!!!! Greg Stephens -- I suspect that "friendly fire" probably started its life as a eupemism created by those in command and, as frequently happens when leaders are being espcially silly, was turned into ironic humor by those being commanded. Stephen |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: greg stephens Date: 17 Apr 02 - 07:28 AM This might be a thread where i could find the answer to a question that has often come up: is it true that Americans don't use, and therefore don't understand, ironic humour? It is popularly supposed that if you say to an American "Brutus is an honourable man" or "Streets of London is a wonderful and very moving song" they will take the comment to be a statement of your opinion. Can anyone help? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Amos Date: 17 Apr 02 - 08:56 AM Friendly fire means rounds of ammo INADVERTENTLY being directed at you by those on your side or an allied side. It is not a euphemism, and it is not contradictory, but it does sound like a combination of incongruous words, which therefore qualifies it as an oxymorin anyway. A |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: greg stephens Date: 17 Apr 02 - 09:05 AM I disagree amos.it is contradictory, because "friendly" has connotations quite the reverse ofthe feelings you get from a bullet up your jacksie. And it is a euphemism I think, because it was a circumlocution by PR people who didnt like saying "we've bombed our boys by mistake". And is certainly ironic, if the phrase is used byits recipients. So all in all i think it qualifies as all three figures of speech and gets some sort of prize. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Guessed Date: 17 Apr 02 - 09:12 AM MudGuard isn't liquid gas sublime (***B tech G ****) greg stevens - are you ernest or ironest? can I offer Manage Meant? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Rich_and_Dee Date: 17 Apr 02 - 09:18 AM Oxymoron: Gourmet buffet
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Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Pseudolus Date: 17 Apr 02 - 09:34 AM I thought an oxymoron was someone who didn't know how to use those acne pads (oxy pads).... And to appease the folks who think all conversations here should be about music, my oxymoron contribution is.....MUSIC THREAD!
Frank |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 17 Apr 02 - 09:35 AM Oldest oxymoron I know is glykypikron = "bitter-sweet", as said of love by the poetress Sappho about the beginning of the 6th century B.C.
A fine translation by J. Addington Symonds, 1883: In friendly fire I can see no oxymoron; friendly here only designates an origin and no intention. In the tis man's Army it is well known that artillerists don't distinguish between friend or foe; the bloody bangheads only know interesting targets. A long range hit at a friendly officers latrine they consider as a ballistic masterpiece, too. Not so funny is the intelligent drummer. I only agree if you except me personally.
And now to Greg: There are certain hints at the use of ironic humour in the U.S. of A. Even the British Library shows six entries of this excellent and entertaining work: Wilfried |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: John MacKenzie Date: 17 Apr 02 - 09:57 AM While we're on books "The quiet American"? DARFC |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Guessed Date: 17 Apr 02 - 10:04 AM American Irony? never the Twain? AND what about Ambrose Bierce? What was his take on irony? I have the whole text from the Guttenberg Project - I will go see. I wish I could remember their URL but it won't be hard to find. methinks a can of worms is wriggling free here. "Ire ON" - folks. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: artbrooks Date: 17 Apr 02 - 11:01 AM As a former field artilleryman, I can comment on "friendly fire" from a different perspective. It wasn't invented by a PR flac, rather its a technical (well, not very) term that's been around at least since WWII. It refers to artillery rounds (shells, if you prefer) fired ("fire") by our side ("friendly")that hit something other than the intended target. This can be because of mislocation of the target or of the guns, changing weather conditions, mathmatical error, or because either the good guys weren't where they were supposed to be or the artillery didn't know where they were. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Greg F. (remote computer) Date: 17 Apr 02 - 11:31 AM Creation science. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: kendall Date: 17 Apr 02 - 12:15 PM A good Rose' attractive linoleum Legally drunk Reagan's memoirs Compassionate conservative Cherry Tart. Rush hour |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: wysiwyg Date: 17 Apr 02 - 12:19 PM Agitating for peace. ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Dagenham Doc Date: 17 Apr 02 - 05:18 PM I love rush hour!! How about stiff upper lip Doc. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: 8_Pints Date: 17 Apr 02 - 06:16 PM How about: "Industrial action" "Pretty awful" "Management perspective" Bob vG |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 17 Apr 02 - 06:45 PM I have to disagree that bitter-sweet is an oxymoron. "Bitter" and "Sweet" are NOT opposites, but the names of a couple of the battery of taste sensations that make up flavor. Something CAN be both bitter and sweet, and maybe sour or salty, etc., at the same time. Dave Oesterreich |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: kendall Date: 17 Apr 02 - 07:11 PM Government assistance |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Jane 2001 Date: 17 Apr 02 - 07:30 PM Re Americans and irony. I have occasionally noticed that on mudcat where someone has expressed an opinion which is so extreme it must be the opposite of what they actually think and our cousins get terribly upset about it. I think we Brits use irony rather a lot, making a point by taking things to their ultimate ridiculous extreme. I think it is a peculiarly British (English?) form of rhetoric. The continentals don't seem to understand it either and dispise the speaker accordingly. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Snuffy Date: 18 Apr 02 - 09:24 AM You're right, Jane. Over here "absolutely marvellous" would be a highly damning verdict, whereas "not totally unpleasant" could be high praise indeed. WassaiL! V |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: JedMarum Date: 18 Apr 02 - 09:43 AM christian right |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: JedMarum Date: 18 Apr 02 - 09:44 AM I like wolfgang's: folksong writer |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: JedMarum Date: 18 Apr 02 - 09:48 AM celibate priest |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,greg stephens Date: 18 Apr 02 - 09:56 AM yes, i did raise the irony point in all seriousness, it is one of the main souces of incomprehension(and possible anger) in the trans-atlantic conversations we have here. Other examples of incomprehension occur on this thread: I'm sure any british or irish reader reading my posting of "friendly fire" would understand that I knew what friendly fire is, and was discussing the oddness of the juxtaposition of the two words. But two or three posters, who i would guess were american, assumed that I was trying to find out what the words meant and explained them (very slowly and carefully)."Two countries separated by a common language"..who said that? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Hamish Date: 18 Apr 02 - 10:12 AM Detailed summary and/or in-depth overview |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 18 Apr 02 - 11:41 AM Hi Guessed, Project Gutenberg is written with only one "t". The German home page was transferred some days ago, URL is now http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/ No Ambrose Bierce here. But he can be found on the English URL http://promo.net/pg/ Hi Uncle DaveO I may assure you that Sappho when she wrote her poem did not know the Chinese sweet-sour sauces, and bitter and sweet for one and the same thing were supposed contraries, not parts of a range. Otherwise the word oxymoron = sharp witted-dull would be no oxymoron itself, only a part of the wide range of human intellect. Wilfried |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Bill D Date: 18 Apr 02 - 11:44 AM Athletic scholarship freezer burn briefing holy war |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Pete Date: 18 Apr 02 - 11:54 AM Guesstimate? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Dave Bryant Date: 18 Apr 02 - 11:58 AM Bodhran Music |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wolfgang Date: 18 Apr 02 - 12:36 PM the 'only choice' found missing idiot savant dicorce court (ouch) science fiction and to end on a musical note: soft rock Young Tradition Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST Date: 18 Apr 02 - 01:06 PM Sailboat racing Behavioral science Business ethics |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: michaelr Date: 18 Apr 02 - 08:15 PM Industrial park! In order to determine whetherv a statement is meant ironically or seriously (if it's not OBVIOUSLY one or the other), one must have at least some knowledge of the speaker. That can be difficult when chatting on the web with people in other hemispheres. (Sweeping Generalization Alert:) I think that Americans tend to assume that people mean what they say, unless clued otherwise, while British folks (more skeptical, I guess) assume everyone is "taking a piss". Cheers, Michael |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: kendall Date: 18 Apr 02 - 08:20 PM Some of those sailboats, especially the catamarans will really haul ass. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: DonD Date: 18 Apr 02 - 09:18 PM Asm an elderly gebtleman with an enlarged prostate, may I ask -- isn't the expression, "taking the piss"? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Stephen L. Rich Date: 18 Apr 02 - 11:58 PM I've heard the "divided by a common language" line attributed to George Bernard Shaw and Oscar Wilde. Take your pick. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,DrWord Date: 19 Apr 02 - 01:35 AM First Annual This one is good ... DrWord@public terminal |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Trevor Date: 19 Apr 02 - 04:32 AM How about 'going round the square'? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Joe in the'pool Date: 19 Apr 02 - 05:02 AM 'Don't Fire' could this now be interpreted as an oxymoron when heard by American Airforce pilots, when sighting 'Friendly' Canadians (is this another one!) No offence meant to Canadians a very friendly bunch of people.. Joe |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Date: 19 Apr 02 - 05:36 AM Definite probability Full vacuum cleaner Opaque window (of Australia) Island Continent Open secret |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Banjer Date: 19 Apr 02 - 05:52 AM Having read through this thread I am dismayed and saddened that NO ONE has yet listed one of the most obvious music related oxymnorons: Banjo Tuning |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 19 Apr 02 - 08:02 AM I wonder if "friendly fire" might owe anything to John Betjeman:
"Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough! It isn't fit for humans now..."
And he wasn't exactly being ironic, possibly a bit tongue in cheek, since he didn't actually want the bombs dropped on the place, just wished people would wake up to what they had created, and pull it down and make it better.
Nobody has mentioned "British Justice" which has very often been classed as an oxymoron.
And I think alongside Sorchas's "Non Working Mom" I might put "Women's Liberation."
Or there's Morris Dancing...
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Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: SharonA Date: 19 Apr 02 - 10:11 AM Wise ass 'NSYNC concert Voice mail |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Amos Date: 19 Apr 02 - 10:51 AM Friendly fire is only apparently oxymoronic, when mis-parsed; the adjective "friendly" has a different meaning (side of origin) than the common one (show of affection or alliance). Obviously in the second sense NO fire is friendly. A |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 19 Apr 02 - 11:03 AM Well, if you were being strictly logical, I suppose you could say that fire directed on the enemy when you were under attack could well be described as friendly.
I don't think a phrase can be "apparently oxymoronic" - the appearance is surely what counts in this kind of phrase.
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Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Amos Date: 19 Apr 02 - 11:18 AM Oh, okay, McGrath -- pardon my arrant pedantry, up with which I will now put where the sun don't shine!! :>)) A |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Nerd Date: 19 Apr 02 - 02:16 PM I think there's plenty of irony in the USA. But then I grew up in New York City, so my experience may not be typical. I do think that people in North America have no very clear idea of what irony is. For example, Alanis Morrisette's song "isn't it ironic?" in fact provides examples of coincidence, not irony. Oxymora: Government worker (or government job) working holiday Home Depot High school senior sophomoric humor |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: DMcG Date: 19 Apr 02 - 02:22 PM There is a nursery rhyme that I can't quite remember which includes the directions
Straight down the crooked road (We start 'em young on oxymrons here)
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Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Hrothgar Date: 19 Apr 02 - 06:42 PM Boxing ring. Literate journalist. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: van lingle Date: 19 Apr 02 - 07:10 PM This thread is awful good. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Date: 20 Apr 02 - 06:28 AM some of those posting here are "pretty ugly" |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,emily b Date: 20 Apr 02 - 08:22 AM Diversified Specialists! This is actually the name of a business here. Emily |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: van lingle Date: 20 Apr 02 - 08:35 AM No offense, Nigel but your assessment seems fairly unjust. *g* |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Ebbie Date: 20 Apr 02 - 12:35 PM New and Improved! |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Date: 20 Apr 02 - 04:10 PM Modern History |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 20 Apr 02 - 04:36 PM clean dirt english cuisine american justice republican party |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: van lingle Date: 20 Apr 02 - 08:04 PM "President Bush" |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Chris Date: 21 Apr 02 - 08:27 AM Um--casual sex? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Nigel Parsons Date: 21 Apr 02 - 01:16 PM Guest,Chris: is that on oxymoron or an offer ? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Peter from Essex Date: 21 Apr 02 - 04:15 PM A friend of mine walked into the wrong room at a venue and really did find himself in the AGM of an anarchist organisation. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Stephen L. Rich Date: 21 Apr 02 - 10:52 PM GUEST,Peter from Essex -- Now, THAT'S an oxymoron!!!!!! |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: mousethief Date: 12 Jun 02 - 05:26 PM Coincidences can't be ironic? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Slickerbill Date: 12 Jun 02 - 05:38 PM "Guest Host", "raised to the ground" |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: mousethief Date: 12 Jun 02 - 05:49 PM free love secular saint loyal opposition ice cream compassionate conservatism worldly innocence good beer ovo-lacto-vegetarian self-righteous sweet wine monetary consideration guilt complex plastic glass standard exemption total partiality steel wool cotton wool sophomore preexisting antebellum fat-free sour cream dairy-free creamer positive feedback |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Big John Date: 12 Jun 02 - 09:40 PM The author of this thread has pulled the wool across my eyes/ By using clever diction writing words of such a size/ In Ireland we have oxen and morons by the score/ But to breed an oxymoron it was never done before.// Is this some sort of Mudcat crossbred from a horse and cow/ Or a mule with horns and udder, will someone tell me now?/ Or some such other animal defying Nature's laws/ Or just a contradiction in a verbal sort of clause?// Jeez, I'd love to be as clever as these educated Yanks /Then I'd fill this space with double meaning words and leave no blanks/ But I'm going to have to finish with all this stupid talk/ It's time to take my little oxymoron for a walk. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wincing Devil Date: 13 Jun 02 - 01:59 PM Raised to the ground should be spelled "razed" as in what some men do to their face in the morning. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Chicken Charlie Date: 13 Jun 02 - 04:42 PM Accordion music Bible scholar [IMO, of course] Homeless shelter turtle race CC |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: tremodt Date: 13 Jun 02 - 11:06 PM Park way drive way |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar Date: 14 Jun 02 - 06:49 AM Definitive version? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Sir Roger de Beverley Date: 14 Jun 02 - 10:55 AM One I came across recently that only I thought fitted the definition was "highly intelligent fell runner" R |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: mousethief Date: 14 Jun 02 - 12:00 PM That's just silly, Chicken Charlie. One needn't believe something is true to acknowledge that people study it in a scholarly way. I don't believe in the Roman pantheon, but I acknowledge that there are scholars in Roman Mythology. Alex |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Pete Jennings Date: 14 Jun 02 - 02:41 PM English summer. Pete
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Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Dead Horse Date: 15 Jun 02 - 02:00 AM Re baseball - World Series Shanty Singer Open Prison Vacant Expression Smart Bomb (unless it explodes and makes you sting slightly) ....(on my starting blocks and ready to run for cover)...Ladies Morris |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: brid widder Date: 15 Jun 02 - 07:41 AM happily married! |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Shields Folk Date: 15 Jun 02 - 08:22 AM stupid woman! |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Shields Folk Date: 15 Jun 02 - 08:23 AM no sorry, thats a double negative! |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wincing Devil Date: 17 Jun 02 - 04:52 PM Best Oxymoron So Far!: Religious Technology Lawdie! Save us from Helena Korbin! |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Big John Date: 17 Jun 02 - 09:20 PM Iodine Tablets. The GOVERNMENT is sending a FREE packet of Iodine Tablets to every household in Ireland within the next week. Allellluuuiaaa Brethern, we are SAVED. Apparently, if an atomic bomb drops on you, there's no problem - you just rush home, swallow one of these and that's it. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Wincing Devil Date: 18 Jun 02 - 12:47 AM Iodine Tablets...
How's that Oxymoronic? Moronic maybe... |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Stephen L. Rich Date: 18 Jun 02 - 03:28 AM Big John -- That poem is wonderful. Shame on you! *BG* |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: InOBU Date: 18 Jun 02 - 01:03 PM President Bush Larry |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Argenine Date: 20 Jun 02 - 09:50 PM "Live Dead" the wit and wisdom of George W Bush [Dan Quayle, etc.] NBC News In Depth Nice poem, Big John! Alex, I assume you're being ironic about "positive feedback." *b* |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Pean O'Graffey Date: 21 Jun 02 - 06:03 PM Eco-tourism, Lady Thatcher |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: mousethief Date: 21 Jun 02 - 06:06 PM Well "feedback" is sometimes used as a synonym for "unpleasant response" -- that's what I had in mind. I assume the ability for technology to become religious is only a while off -- if the artificial intelligence gurus are right (which I am not exactly assured of). Devout atheist -- did I already say that? Alex |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Argenine Date: 21 Jun 02 - 06:20 PM Yeah, Alex, I assumed that's what you meant, but the term "feedback" itself is neutral; the response can be evaluative in a positive or negative sense, or it can merely be instructional or observational [as in, "..the guitar is louder than the vocals on that tape..."]. It's unfortunate that, as you suggest, many people think "feedback" = "criticism" = "a put down." I could say a similar thing about "tough love." It really isn't an oxymoron, as the term was used by the folks who coined the phrase. But too many people nowadays tend to use it to mean "retribution," "zero tolerance," etc. [as in thinking of the death penalty or life imprisonment as "tough love}. Arge |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Bert Date: 29 Oct 02 - 10:39 PM Saw one today, a sign that advertised - FRESH JERKY |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,noddy Date: 30 Oct 02 - 07:32 AM rock musician banjo player modern history management decision 95% fat free (the other 5% is 100% FAT) manchester united gold card love triangle |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,Shf Date: 30 Oct 02 - 09:10 AM How about the latest proposal from the EEC I.E United States of Europe. I can think of nowhere more un-united. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Stephen L. Rich Date: 30 Oct 02 - 08:31 PM Nigel -- "Oxymora" may, indeed, be the proper plural form of the word. However, it is only used by those who don't realize that an oxymoron is defined as a particularly dim-witted beast of burden.*G* |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: Genie Date: 30 Oct 02 - 09:36 PM Discussed in another thread: "Algorithm" (Think about it, you Yanks.) Genie |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: EBarnacle1 Date: 31 Oct 02 - 11:55 AM Creation Science My son and I were at a Chinese restaurant the other evening and I told him he was eating with an oxymoron. "What's an oxymoron" he asked. So I came up with a definition. Now I'll just show him this site. The oxymoron was, of course, "plastic silverware."" |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: DG&D Dave Date: 01 Nov 02 - 05:59 AM Social Scientist Physical Chemist Well-person Clinic and in many computer manuals 'This page has intentionaly left blank'? |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: GUEST,allen woodpecker Date: 01 Nov 02 - 06:26 AM Howz about Fun Size Mars Bars? a.w. |
Subject: RE: Oxymorons From: EBarnacle1 Date: 01 Nov 02 - 11:08 AM The Mars Bar is fun size--if you own stock in the company. |
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