Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: Dennis the Elder Date: 08 Mar 14 - 08:24 AM Just a point of interest, "Mona Isle" is also a name for the "Isle of Man" I also had the honour of working for the Isle of Man Steam Packet Company, a few years ago, as an independent inspector of the galleys and food safety proceedures on their their ships (Sea Cats etc) and found them to be of a particular high standard. |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 07 Mar 14 - 07:17 PM Most everything has been said before in the threads on this song. Perhaps the most informative is 7931, Ellen Vannin/Ellan Vannin-definitive.... linked at top of this thread. |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: GUEST Date: 07 Mar 14 - 03:33 PM hi Sharon ellen vannin is gaelic for the isle of man, there was built a shin in Glasgow roundabout 1836 she was named mona rose at first then had a refurb in Cumbria which is als north of England and was renamed ellan vannin, on 3rd of December 1909 at 1-00 am she set sail for Liverpool she made it as far as Liverpool bay when a huge wave hit her she went down wit 21 crew and 13 passengers. jim manchester |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: Amergin Date: 29 Feb 04 - 06:58 PM here is a recording of it: Ellan Vannin Tragedy |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: 8_Pints Date: 15 Jul 02 - 02:57 PM Just out of interest, I had an elderly Aunt who died a number of years ago, who had been engaged to be married to a young lad who died on the Ellen Vannin. The song always made me think of Aunty Sissy (short for Cicely). She never married, but lived into her 90s, staying true to her dead sailor - sounds like a song doesn't it! Sue vG |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: Wolfgang Date: 15 Jul 02 - 10:07 AM The group Oisín did record it too. Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: vectis Date: 15 Jul 02 - 09:13 AM Hughie says that he dashed the song off very quickly and it is one of his best known songs. At least I think it was this song..... The altzheimers is getting worse. |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: Noreen Date: 15 Jul 02 - 05:16 AM Yes, Mr Happy. |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: Mr Happy Date: 15 Jul 02 - 03:46 AM i always thought it was hughie jones that wrote the one the spinners did. didn't he? |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: Snuffy Date: 14 Jul 02 - 06:48 PM I've just spent the weekend at the Swansea Maritime Festival - pity I didn't catch this thread before I left on Friday, because Hughie Jones was there and sang it as a request in the Queen's this afternoon. I spoke to him after his turn and could have asked him about the date if I'd known. WassaiL! V |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: Liz the Squeak Date: 12 Jul 02 - 03:34 PM I learned it from the Spinners tape, it was one of the first I ever learned and I sang it at the World Record Singaround. Was going to follow it with 'the Titanic' but as the mood was already 'songs to slash your wrists by' I thought it would be a bit much, 2 disaster songs in one set.... like watching 'The Posiedon Adventure' after 'A Night to Remember'. Mona's Isle was what Man used to be called. LTS |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: Doug Chadwick Date: 12 Jul 02 - 01:14 PM The Spinners recorded it. It can be found on "More Folk at the Phil" (Fontana TL5234). This was part 2 of a live recording at the Liverpool Philharmonic Hall on 17th April 1964. Doug C |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: Amergin Date: 12 Jul 02 - 11:24 AM one site i found said it was performed on the bbc in 1976.... This is kind of odd...cause I have been thinking alot about this song lately....I have heard Dave the Ancient Mariner sing it a few times....and always wanted a recording of this song....Was it ever recorded? |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: SharonA Date: 12 Jul 02 - 09:16 AM Yeah, I'll take the cheese over the worms any day (except when the cheese "stands alone" for too long in my refrigerator! *G*). Hey, Wolfgang, many thanks for starting this thread and pulling together all those references and the posts from Ian's Quiz thread! (By the way, in case anyone's scratching his or her head over it, I was saying "Please do be picky!" in response to a post by Lucy [Hawker] in that other thread. IMO, the more pedants, the better!) |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: GUEST,Brian Date: 12 Jul 02 - 09:08 AM I should have said scan down the page to 19. Brian |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: GUEST,Brian Date: 12 Jul 02 - 09:07 AM I have been trying to locate the writing date of the song - but have failed so far. I believe it was late 1960's - early 1970's. However, this came to light - passengers It's amazing what useless information you can find. Brian |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: GUEST,Brian Date: 12 Jul 02 - 08:36 AM Cheers Walrus. I prefer cheese, anyway. Brian |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: The Walrus at work Date: 12 Jul 02 - 08:29 AM Brian, Take comfort in the thought that the early bird may get the worm, but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese. Walrus |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: GUEST,Brian Date: 12 Jul 02 - 08:00 AM Exit mumbling "cheeky ........" I'll dig my own worms thanks. At least they'll be fresh! |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: GUEST,greg stephens Date: 12 Jul 02 - 07:37 AM Ah, youve got to get up early to get in before me. If they're any early worms spare tomorrow morning I'll post them to you. |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: GUEST,Brian Date: 12 Jul 02 - 07:34 AM Now look 'ere Greg. Just when I post these 'pearls of wisdom' it turns out you've just beaten me to it. Brian |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: GUEST,Brian Date: 12 Jul 02 - 07:32 AM Wolfgang. Snaefell, Tynwald, and Ben-my-Chree are the correct names. Snaefell - the 'mountain' (high hill) on the island. Tynwald - name of the Manx parliament. Ben-my-Chree - woman of my heart. As the song says 'all bearing a Manx name.' regards Brian |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: GUEST,greg stephens Date: 12 Jul 02 - 07:19 AM These three boat names give a nice picture of the Isle of Man for those unfamiliar with the place. Snaefell is the highest hill/mountain/fell. Means Snow Fell (Old Norse, lots of Viking invaders). Tynwald is the litte hill at St Johns where the parliament has been meeting for more than a thousand years (compare other places called Dingwall, Thingvellir etc etc throughout the Scandinavian world, all meaning parliament place). Ben-my Chree means woman of my heart (Manx Gaelic, lots of Irish invaders). |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: Wolfgang Date: 12 Jul 02 - 07:03 AM The information on the names of the ships on the 'history of Isle of Man staem Packet' site linked above should be correct. Therefore the names are Snaefell, Tynwald, Ben-my-Chree as in the lyrics on the robokopp site. Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: GUEST,Brian Date: 12 Jul 02 - 06:45 AM For more information of the disater follow the link from the 'History of the Isle of Man Steam packet Co. Ltd' given above through 'Chapter 3', down the page to 'Ellan Vannin' and you get to this. click here I hope it helps. |
Subject: RE: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: Wolfgang Date: 12 Jul 02 - 05:43 AM and here is a summary of the entries in the BS-Quiz thread:
(1) (IanC) E - Strangely enough she was a man, though she sank in December. |
Subject: (The loss of the) Ellan Vannin From: Wolfgang Date: 12 Jul 02 - 05:42 AM There has been quite a discussion about this song been buried in a BS: Alphabet quiz thread. I don't want that discussion to get lost for in it are a few fine links to that song (including a picture of the boat) and a correction to the lyrics in the DT. In addition to that, the spelling of the song title is different in the old threads about this song, so I think I'll try to bring the discussion together in this thread. Wolfgang Old threads: Wolfgang |
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