Chords ADD: Ellan Vannin

Subject: Ellan Vannin
From:
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 05:08 AM

Some time ago I heard this song (maybe Ellen Vannin?) about a shipwreck in the Irish Sea. I can't find out anything about it - can anyone help?

Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Ellan Vannin
From: Big Lotty
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 05:20 AM

Words are in the database - now all we desperately need are the chords!

Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Ellan Vannin
From: Wolfgang
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 05:32 AM

There have been many threads about this song. Here's a link to a post telling about the background of the song.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Ellan Vannin
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 07:52 AM

Jacko in NZ sings this song on Paltalk. I am sure he can post the chords for you. Perhaps you could PM him. Yours, Aye. Dave (who has sailed over her grave many times)

Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Ellan Vannin
From: Kernow John
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 10:42 AM

Hi Guest
I have the music and chords will post both later this evening.
KJ

Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Ellan Vannin
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 12:35 PM

Oh Ellen Vannin of the Isle of Man Company, Poor Ellen Vannin she's lost in the Irish Sea. That's the chorus anyhow, it must be about thirty years since I last heard that song. I do have the words and I think the chords in an old book of my wife's at home, I will have to dig it out. JohnB

Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Ellan Vannin
From: Kernow John
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 05:25 PM

Here's the chords as I remember them.
Hope this way of typing is ok Alison introduced me to it a while back and it saves the problem of formatting.
There is a shareware program out there somewhere that will take this style (called chord pro.)and change it to the more usual chords above words.

(Am)Snaefell, Tyn Wald, (Dm)Ben Mych(Am)ree
Fourteen ships have (E)sailed the (Am)sea
Proudly (D)bearing a (G)Manx (Em)name
(Am)But there's one will (E)never a(Am)gain

Chorus
(Dm)O Ellan (Am)Vanin
Of the (D)Isle of Man (Dm)Compa(Am)ny
(Dm)O Ellen (Am)Vanin
(C)Lost in the (Em)Irish (Am)Sea

Music to follow later tonight
Regards KJ

Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Ellan Vannin
From: Bernard
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 05:29 PM

Hughie Jones (of 'The Spinners' - the Liverpool folk group!) wrote the song, and is still around.

Good on yer, Hughie!

Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Ellan Vannin
From: Kernow John
Date: 09 Mar 01 - 06:03 PM

Still performing as well I hear
Anyway here's the tune
Whatever happened to Bobby Bob? He used to be our guide on all things Manx.
X: 1
T:Ellan Vannin
M:4/4
L:1/4
Q:60
K:Am
A,EEC|F3/2G/E2|E/E3/2ED|CB,A,2|A3/2G/^FD|
G/G3/2E2|E3/2E/ED|C/C/B,A,2|
D2DC/D/|E2A,A,/A,/|D/D/DCD/E/-|E4|
D2DC/D/|E2A,2|CC/C/B,G,|A,4||
% Output from ABC2Win Version 2.1 i on 08/03/2001



Will the tune be picked up from here or do I need to post it to Alan or Joe or someone?

Regards KJ

Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Ellan Vannin
From: Julia
Date: 10 Mar 01 - 08:58 AM

The book New English Broadsides says that Hugh had help from Stan Hugill and Ted Hughes. Great Song!

Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Ellan Vannin
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 10 Mar 01 - 06:21 PM

Julia, could you elaborate, please? (If on nothing else, perhaps on the book's author and publisher/year - couldn't find it on Amazon). Thanks!

Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Ellan Vannin
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 10 Mar 01 - 07:02 PM

The chords Hughie Jones gives in "Hughie's Ditty Bag" vary a little from the the ones Kernow John has given. Here they are:

(Am)Snaefell, Tynwald, (Dm)Ben My Chree(Am)ree
(C)Fourteen (Am)ships have (E)sailed the (Am)sea Proudly (D)bearing a (G)Manx (E)name
(Am)But there's one will (Em)never a(Am)gain

Chorus
(Dm)O Ellan (Am)Vanin
Of the (Dm)Isle of Man Company(Am)-
(Dm)O Ellen (Am)Vanin
(C)Lost in the (Em)Irish (Am)Sea

Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Ellan Vannin
From: Julia
Date: 10 Mar 01 - 10:41 PM

Hi Susanne (skw) - here's the book info- lotsa goodies in here, but it's out of print I think

New English Broadsides, Songs of our Time from the English Folk Scene, compiled by Nathan Joseph and Eric Winter, Oak Publications 1967, NY

You could try Bibliofind.com

Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Ellan Vannin
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 11 Mar 01 - 04:38 PM

Many thanks, Julia! I will, but it should also be available in major libraries (I hope!).

Subject: RE: Chords ADD: Ellan Vannin
From: ThomasTage
Date: 20 Sep 10 - 12:53 PM

Heard it years ago on an old Spinners album,
have never sung the song in public as it does not seem to captivate the Danish audience in bars as well as in the British Isles - however I do not quite agree with mr Kernow as he posted the chords nearly ten years ago.

(Am)Snaefell, Tyn Wald, (Dm)Ben(G) Mych(Am)ree
Fourteen ships have (Em)sailed the (Am)sea
(F)Proudly (G)bearing a (C)Manx (Am)name
(Am)But there's one will (EM)never a(Am)gain

Chorus
(Dm)O Ellan (Am)VaNnin
Of the (Dm)Isle of Man (Dm)Compa(Am)ny
(Dm)O Ellen (Am)Vanin
(Am)Lost in the (Em)Irish (Am)Sea

Slán go fóill.

Subject: RE: Chords ADD: Ellan Vannin
From: GUEST,Steve Jones
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 12:22 PM

ELLEN VANNIN

Snaefell, Tyndwall and Benmachree, Am Em Fourteen ships have sailed the sea. Am G Em Am Proudly bearing a Manx name, G Em Am But there's one will never again G EmAm Chorus O Ellen Vannin, of the Isle of Man Company, G Am G Em Am O Ellen Vannin, lost on the Irish Sea. G Am G Em Am

At one a.m. in Ramsey Bay Captain Tier was heard to say "The contract says deliver the mail In this rough weather we must not fail."

Liners sheltered from the storm On the wave Ellen Vannen was borne Her holds were full and battened down As she sailed away for Liverpool town

Her crew were twenty one Manx men Passengers Liverpool businessmen "Farewell to Mona's Isle, farewell This little boat is bound for Hell!"

Less than a mile from the Bar Lightship Ellen Vannin by a wave was hit She sank 'neath the waters of Liverpool Bay There she lies until this day

Few Manxmen now remember The third day in the month December A terrible storm in ninety-nine Ellen Vannin sailed the very last time

Subject: RE: Chords ADD: Ellan Vannin
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 12:34 PM

Yep you definitely need a D MAJOR in the second line, as shown in the set given from "Hughie's Ditty Bag" quoted by John Freeman in March 01, as the notes of the tune in 2nd line (in key of Am) are A G FSharp D G G E. If you're singing a flat F it's not how the Spinners did it!

Subject: RE: Chords ADD: Ellan Vannin
From: GUEST,Dolphin
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 05:26 PM

As Hughie Jones wrote both the song and the tune - without help from anyone!! Suggest it would be at least polite to ask him for permission

Subject: RE: Chords ADD: Ellan Vannin
From: Dave Earl
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 07:17 PM

visit this

Subject: RE: Chords ADD: Ellan Vannin
From: Dave Earl
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 07:18 PM

Or better still this

http://www.manxman.ch/indexdata/ellanvannin/ellanvannin.htm

Subject: RE: Chords ADD: Ellan Vannin
From: Bernard
Date: 04 Apr 12 - 04:50 PM

Or even better still - go to the Shanty Festival at Ellesmere Port Boat Museum this Easter Weekend, starting on Good Friday (6th April 2012), as Hughie will be there in person!

Subject: RE: Chords ADD: Ellan Vannin
From: GUEST,threelegsoman
Date: 12 Sep 12 - 03:42 AM

Only just found this thread looking for something else. Hope you find the links below helpful.

Check out my YouTube version with lyrics and chords on screen:
The Ellan Vannin Tragedy

Also a tutorial for the song:
Tutorial for The Ellan Vannin Tragedy

Tony A

Subject: RE: Chords ADD: Ellan Vannin
From: JohnB UK
Date: 12 Sep 12 - 05:01 AM

Hi Folks

Here's the song as i perform it - Hope this helps

Ellen Vannen
Capo 2nd Fret

[Am]Snaefell, Tyndwall and [F]Benma[E]chree,
[Am]Fourteen ships set [E]out [E7]to [Am]sea.
[Am]Proudly [F]bearing [G]a Manx [Am]name,
[Am]But there's one will [E]never [E7]a[Am]gain


Chorus:        [Dm]O Ellen [Am]Vannen,
of the [Dm]Isle of Man Com[Am]pany,
[Dm]O Ellen [Am]Vannen,
[Am]lost on the [E]I[E7]rish [Am]Sea.

[Am]At one am. in [F]Ramsey [E]Bay
[Am]Captain Tier was [E]heard [E7]to [Am]say
[Am] "The contract [F]says de[G]liver the [Am]mail
[Am]In this rough weather we [E]must [E7]not [Am]fail."


[Am]Liners sheltered [F]from the [E]storm
[Am]On the wave Ellen [E]Vannen [E7]was [Am]borne
[Am]Her holds were [F]full and [G]battened [Am]down
[Am]As she sailed away for [E]Liver[E7]pool [Am]town


[Am]Her crew were twenty [F]one Manx [E]men
[Am]Passengers Liverpool [E]busi[E7]ness[Am]men
[Am] "Farewell to [F]Mona's [G]Isle, fare[Am]well
[Am]This little boat is [E]bound [E7]for [Am]Hell!"


[Am]Less than a mile from the [F]Bar Light[E]ship
[Am]Ellen Vannen by a [E]wave [E7]was [Am]hit
[Am]She sank 'neath the [F]waters of [G]Liverpool [Am]Bay
[Am]There she lies un[E]til [E7]this [Am]day


[Am]Few Manxmen [F]now re[E]member
[Am]The third day in the [E]month [E7]De[Am]cember
[Am]A terrible [F]storm in [G]ninety-[Am]nine
[Am]Ellen Vannen sailed for the [E]very [E7]last [Am]time


Well done Hughie

Subject: RE: Chords ADD: Ellan Vannin
From: GUEST,Ned Naylor
Date: 19 Sep 15 - 03:21 AM

Does anyone know if there is a choral music version of this beautiful folk song and if so please advise to me at my personal email. ned.naylor@ hotmail.co.uk
Thanks

Subject: RE: Chords ADD: Ellan Vannin
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Sep 15 - 03:40 AM

Hi, Ned -
I found a recording on Spotify of a performance of "Ellan Vannin (Dear Isle of Man)," performed by the Glasgow Orpheus Choir under the direction of Sir Hugh Roberton (of Mingulay Boat Song fame). Also another by the Seven Towers Choir. I suppose, however, that you're seeking a choral arrangement on sheet music.

Not a full arrangement, but this (click) may help you.

Oh, and since you're in the UK, it looks like you can buy a choral arrangement through Amacon:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/F-H-Townend-Ellan-Vannin-Sheet/dp/B00CWEDJQY

-Joe Offer, Mudcat Music Editor-
(email sent)

Subject: RE: Chords ADD: Ellan Vannin
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 19 Sep 15 - 08:15 AM

That's a different song, Joe. A friend who has Manx connections sings it. Lovely song, but not The Spinners' one.