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Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?

Peter T. 21 May 03 - 08:42 AM
alanabit 21 May 03 - 10:43 AM
GUEST 21 May 03 - 12:56 PM
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Mark Clark 21 May 03 - 02:13 PM
Clinton Hammond 21 May 03 - 02:13 PM
Little Hawk 21 May 03 - 02:28 PM
Clinton Hammond 21 May 03 - 02:30 PM
TheBigPinkLad 21 May 03 - 04:23 PM
Clinton Hammond 21 May 03 - 05:09 PM
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Little Hawk 22 May 03 - 12:09 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 22 May 03 - 12:22 AM
GUEST,GerMan 22 May 03 - 04:45 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 22 May 03 - 04:57 AM
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GUEST,T-boy 22 May 03 - 07:47 AM
Little Hawk 22 May 03 - 11:32 AM
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Harry Basnett 22 May 03 - 01:42 PM
Ed. 22 May 03 - 02:19 PM
GUEST,sorefingers 22 May 03 - 02:35 PM
Harry Basnett 22 May 03 - 02:37 PM
kendall 22 May 03 - 02:40 PM
Little Hawk 22 May 03 - 11:56 PM
greg stephens 23 May 03 - 04:34 AM
GUEST,Peter T. 23 May 03 - 12:29 PM
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Subject: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Peter T.
Date: 21 May 03 - 08:42 AM

Just announced that Dylan is going to be the subject of a BBC documentary/interview with Martin Scorcese, reflecting on his life in the 60s, and who knows, maybe after. If you had a chance to submit a question, what would it be?


I would like to know: (1) Who taught him about open tunings? (2) Does he still read Rimbaud? (3) What possesses him to wreck some of his most beautiful songs with crap rewritings?

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: alanabit
Date: 21 May 03 - 10:43 AM

Just wait until Little Hawk sees this thread Peter! I think I would like to ask Dylan what motivated him to become the first - and easily the best - proponent of a new genre of song - the psychological song. In songs like Ballad of a Thin Man and It's Alright Ma, he took on the themes of serious novelists. I have always thought that these painstaking descriptions of people's inner life are his greatest achievement. They often mistaken for songs of angst riden self obseession - and imitated horribly.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 May 03 - 12:56 PM

would ask him why he's such an egotistical wanker.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 21 May 03 - 02:07 PM

Guest,

I'm sure that's one that he would love to field.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Mark Clark
Date: 21 May 03 - 02:13 PM

Yeah, ask him what happened to Blind Boy Grunt and why Grunt's records aren't available anymore.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 May 03 - 02:13 PM

What woudl -I- ask???

"Bob... Would you please... just stop?"


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 May 03 - 02:28 PM

I would ask him what he would like to talk about, and just let him take it from there...anywhere he wanted to.

I agree that his songs about the inner person...such as "It's Allright, Ma", "Gates of Eden", and "Jokerman" for three examples...are the best and most extraordinary pieces of writing in the history of modern verse. As for the blues, "Blind Willie McTell" is the greatest blues recording ever made, in my opinion. (And he didn't put it on the album "Infidels"!)

- LH


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 May 03 - 02:30 PM

I really do like "Sweetheart Like You" off the album Infidels....

;-)


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 21 May 03 - 04:23 PM

Who told you you could sing?


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 May 03 - 05:09 PM

To which I'd like to hope he reliped, "Who told you anybody needed to ask for permission to sing?"


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 May 03 - 05:11 PM

only I hope he'd spell "replied" correctly!

LOL


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 21 May 03 - 11:00 PM

"Buddy, can you spare a half-mil?"


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 May 03 - 12:09 AM

Oh, yes...the world will always contain people who think Dylan can't sing and the bumblebee can't fly and horses can't swim and other stuff like that...

As Mr. T would have said, "I pity the foo' who say that!"

- LH


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 May 03 - 12:22 AM

Heloo, i would aks him waht flavour crips helikes best, [i lkie beef and onion best], and waht kind of milk shakes he likes, [i like strawberry].joihn.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST,GerMan
Date: 22 May 03 - 04:45 AM

I would ask him if he too gets pissed off with idiots from Hull mis-spelling everything.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 May 03 - 04:57 AM

this is music site, not speliing site, stupif.
ps and how do you know im from hull anyway?


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 May 03 - 04:59 AM

any way, if you so bloody cleber waht you puting capital letters inthe middle for then?


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST,GerMan
Date: 22 May 03 - 05:26 AM

Because I'm a GerMan not a German. Amd a very happy GerMan this morning given events in Seville last night.

;-)


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 May 03 - 05:59 AM

Is there any song(s) you are completely happy with as written/performed and do not feel the need to try some other fucked up rendition?

Of all those who have covered your stuff, which ones have done which songs best?

If you were able to go back and relive one part of your life, which period would that be?

Do you have any songs that you wonder now why you wrote?

In all candor, who was a bigger asset to your career, Woody or Ramblin' Jack?

You have only one album to put in a time capsule....which one?

We all go through changes in our lives sometimes triggered by a particular event.....What about your changes over the years?

Just what did you have in mind when you wrote "Don't Think Twice?"

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST,T-boy
Date: 22 May 03 - 07:47 AM

If you hadn't broken your neck, would you still be making good records?


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 May 03 - 11:32 AM

How do you put up with all the stupid questions?


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Steve-o
Date: 22 May 03 - 12:00 PM

Is "Bob Dylan's Dream" still your dream?....(it hits my heart every time I sing it)...


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 22 May 03 - 01:42 PM

Any idea when this is going to be on BBC? - - er, this is not a question to Dylan obviously.....


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Ed.
Date: 22 May 03 - 02:19 PM

No information on that yet, Harry.

Click here for yesterday's BBC news piece about it.


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Subject: RE: Nylon Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 22 May 03 - 02:35 PM

Ohhkay so Mr Scoresayshee ..ho ho, is about to pump/?hump Bob Diddle Dollas back to life, back on the CD or is it swapsite listings, inflation and deflation all at the same time!

But then he should look at '50 Cent' as well, both of these two twats sell, mind you ol 50 is more original IMHO not stealing his tunez from terminal alcoholics like Bob did to Behan and Guthrie ...oh well.

Which neatly raises the point which is oft times discussed here, what the hell does commercial corpofolk have to do with anything?

Of songs most sung since and writ for money in the 60's Tom Paxton takes the prize, but the aformentioned Diddle seemed to have struck a deeper chord (ho ho) among Christians, like his cousin Anxty Stuckmud Fried Yer Granny's Knickers - and that is why (PAY ME ALL YER MONEY TO FIND THE REASON .... ) you hate yer Dad. Some of us did not beleive it then nor now; instead voracious appetites for Gunness agus Craic led to funnier things, the source OC is always far far far better than the arranged, edited, freakin crucified real thing, ie Behan et al. See the Dubliners 'funnier than cats piss in a bottle'. See the earlier writings of Spike Milligan (Sussex UK) or the later Sir John Cleese (Lowdown Pipeworks Wigan UK)

Life goes on, I DO remember meeting with Guitar thumping travelling folks, way way back in the Monkies days who would nowadays create a riot from the laughter they made of things like, "We will now sing 'She Loves anyone Oh Yeah' by The Brutals, and withoutout any break while continuing to stand on our pates, finger in the left ear as advertised, follow that with 'It is not over till I say So' by The Boring Groans"

The man most known to UK revelers of these days would be Mr Barney Mc Kenna of the Dubliners who played the Banjo, Tenor Banjo .....
The Merican tourists of those years seemed utterly unaware of that sceene often listening to Nonenooh and or Ballades by Twits in costume in Arrestyouraunts at ten times the going rate for a banquet, and being ushered away from the pesky smelly Brits all drunk, asleep or delaying the No 10 to Croydon as they peed out the upper windows.

Did I mention the London scene? Oh never mind, I am sure Stan Web would forgive me, all that Psych0delic twaddle, eating mushsomethings ..... talk about irrelevant.

For a great drinking song there is no equal to 'Does your chewing Gum stick to the soles of yer feet'.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 22 May 03 - 02:37 PM

Sounds interesting, Ed....thanks for the link and I hope they show 'Don't Look Back'.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: kendall
Date: 22 May 03 - 02:40 PM

I would ask, "With a talent such as yours, why do you steal other's songs? Namely, "Don't think twice."


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 May 03 - 11:56 PM

He was learning from those he admired, and borrowing from a rich tradition. That is the folk process, is it not? The only beef people have with Dylan is that he was so successful in doing it.

Listen to 98% of blues and old country, and you will discover that those tunes are also "stolen", if the lyrics are not. Hank Williams stole a ton of stuff, but he improved upon it. So did Dylan.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: greg stephens
Date: 23 May 03 - 04:34 AM

Well the question I would like to ask(someone else may know the answer to it): Mr Dylan, when you came to England in 1962 to take part in the TV play "Mad House in Castle Street" you did two songs.One was Blowing in the Wind: the other I can't remember anything of(having only heard it the once) except it was about a swan on a river. No recordings of the broadcast play exist, but what happened to the swan song? Did you ever record it elsewhere? Can you remember it? Did you write it down?


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST,Peter T.
Date: 23 May 03 - 12:29 PM

Thanks to the serious respondents. Interesting questions. yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 May 03 - 12:52 PM

I think he's been asked more than enough questions already. Just let him talk is what I'd do. The questions would tend to arise naturally as the conversation went on.

Of course, if he didn't want to talk, it might be a very short conversation, but I've read some interesting Dylan interviews, when he was in the mood to talk.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 23 May 03 - 01:26 PM

Kendall: What's the story behind "Don't Think Twice" that prompts you ask about it's being "stolen." I'm well aware that many of his songs, expecially from that era, used long-established traditional tunes and themes, and know several specific examples (e.g., "With God On Our Side"/"Patriot Game"), but nothing about that particular number.

I do agree with Little Hawk's immediate response -- I have no problem with participation in the "folk process." But I am quite curious to learn what you have to say about the antecedent(s) of "Don't Think Twice."


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 23 May 03 - 05:44 PM

Dylan was taught the melody used for 'Don't Think Twice' from a fellow folk-singer by the name of Paul Clayton...I'm not aware there was any problem with this so far as Clayton was concerned.

All the best.............Harry.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 23 May 03 - 06:03 PM

Harry,

Thanks for the info. I wonder if Paul Clayton was passing along something he had picked up (i.e., more-or-less traditional) or if he had written it. If he had no complaints, it must not have been original.

I saw Jack Elliott just two or three years ago, a very rare appearance in New Orleans. It may have been his first visit since writing that tune about an address on Toulouse Street way back in the earliest sixties. He played & sang "Don't Think Twice" after a l-o-o-n-g introduction about young Bobby Dylan, and how this was his first great achievement, and how it was still the best thing Bob ever wrote, etc. No hint that both words and music might not have been Dylan's.

By the way, that was when I realized that the "Ramblin" part of Eliot whatsizname's psuedonym didn't necessarily have anything to do with *traveling* -- if you catch my drift...


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 May 03 - 06:26 PM

Nope....ramblin=talkin.......

Paul Clayton had colledcted an older tune, something like "Who's Gonna' feed the Chickens" or something like that which he turned into the Ribbons song which Dylan liked and it became DTTIAR.

The relationship between Clayton and Dylan depends on who you listen to. They were friends and some say Clayton was completely fixated on Dylan. While others talked about Woody, he kept talking about Dylan. Whether or not he was embittered about the thing really does depend on who is telling the tale. Some say he was, others that they remained friends while the publishers sued each other.

The one certain fact is that Dylan, in his obviously burning desire for success, badly used a lot of his friends and associates at the very least. I think that Jack Elliott was flattered by people saying that Dylan was stealing his act and thought Bob was great. But later things changed dramatically. I don't think Dylan did this stuff with the thought of fucking people over as much as his quest blinded him to what he was doing and he really didn't care, thinking all that stuff was no big deal.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST
Date: 23 May 03 - 07:45 PM

Why'd ya treat Joanie like shit on that Don't Look back tour?


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST
Date: 23 May 03 - 08:04 PM

...ever regret going electric?


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: kendall
Date: 23 May 03 - 08:20 PM

Well, there aint no use to sit and wonder why babe,
Aint no use to sit and cry now
You know there aint no use to sit and wonder why babe
Just wonder whos gonna buy you ribbons when I'm gone.

Sound familiar?


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 May 03 - 12:27 PM

Why did he do that to Joanie? Well, a number of reasons. It's the kind of thing that happens when a relationship is breaking down and almost over. Actually, it was pretty well over as far as Bob was concerned, but not as far as Joan was, and she hadn't quite figured that out yet, because she admired him tremendously (for his creative abilities), and I would think loved him tremendously too. She had to be one of his sincerest fans. Bob was already very interested in Sara (his wife-to-be) and Joan didn't even know about Sara yet when that tour started. Joan was hoping for Bob to introduce her onstage to his audiences in England (as she had earlier done for him in America), and Bob was no doubt wishing that Joan just wasn't there, but was not able to flatly tell her so. That's an awkward situation, to say the least. He may have felt guilty about it at some level, and that may have made him angry, and he may have taken the anger out on her. One thing Bob didn't like was that Joan had a tendency to mother him in a way which he might have found rather constricting, and to sort of "own" him in the process (contemplate the lyrics in "She Belongs To Me" for some insights into that). They both had tremendously strong egos, and it was rough on both of them dealing with each other. She was the reigning "Queen of Folk" on her way down...and he was the reigning King on his way up. That was not easy to deal with either.

Is that enough?

- LH


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST,Bob Dylan
Date: 24 May 03 - 01:37 PM

I would ask, "With a talent such as yours, why do you steal other's songs? Namely, "Don't think twice."

I reworked a traditional song that I learned from Paul Clayton. Something that I've always acknowledged.

I learned to take traditional songs and rework them from Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger. Long before Pete and Woody were doing it, A.P. Carter, Jimmie Rodgers and many others were also doing it. More recently songwriters from U. Utah Phillips to Si Kahn have done the same thing.

Pete Seeger calls it the folk process and he says he wishes more people would do it. Kendall, I don't know why you have a problem with that.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: kendall
Date: 24 May 03 - 02:02 PM

In the first place, I don't believe the original was traditional. The story I heard was, that Dylan took a song which a friend wrote, rewrote it and copyrighted it in his own name. And, what about the stories of him copyrighting very old songs like Lorena?


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Peter T.
Date: 24 May 03 - 02:53 PM

Dylan's treatment of Joan Baez revealed him to be a master at passive agressive behaviour -- the film is a classic portrayal of this kind of person. Never take the blame, never be the one to walk out, never admit to any guilt, never be the first to clear anything up. You notice in his songs that he never ever says that he is to blame for the breakdown of his relationships, it is always "we", or "you", or "these things happen". It is his most despicable quality.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST,Bob Dylan
Date: 24 May 03 - 03:06 PM

Well, Kendall, don't believe everything you hear. The song of Paul Clayton's that formed the model for a few lines of "Don't Think Twice," was itself based on a traditional song. Again, part of what Pete Seeger calls the folk process.

No, I've never put a copyright on "Lorena." My friend, the late John Hartford did, though.

I do have copyrights on the traditional songs, like "Little Sadie," that I've recorded. That something Pete Seeger told me to do when I first started making records more than 40 years ago.

If you don't have a copyright on the traditional material that you record, that's extra money in the record company's pocket. No copyright means no royalty payment. If you look at any of The Weavers old recordings, you'll see that a lot of the traditional folk songs were written by a guy named Paul Campbell. There is no Paul Campbell. His royalties were divided between Pete Seeger, Lee Hays, Freddie Hellerman and Ronnie Gilbert.

You know, songs like "Rock Island," "Midnight Special" and even "Goodnight Irene," were not really written by Leadbelly. Those are much older songs. But in 1935, John Lomax took out copyrights on Leadbelly's name, and sometimes his own name too, so that the songwriter's royalties would go to Leadbelly rather than stay in record company's bank accounts.

Woody Guthrie had copyrights on traditional folk songs like "Buffalo Skinners," "Gypsy Davy" and "Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad."

Even A.P. Carter, back in 1927, was putting his name onto traditional songs he didn't write. Carter Family songs that he wrote like "Will the Circle Be Unbroken" and "Wildwood Flower," were already old before old A.P. was even born.

Now Kendall, I know that you're a friend of Bruce Phillips. He's a great guy, I know him myself. There are bootlegs out there of me singing Bruce's song, "Rock, Salt and Nails." You know the one, it goes, "If the ladies were blackbirds, if the ladies were thrushes/If the ladies were squirrels with high bushy tails/I'd load up my shotgun with rock salt and nails."

Don't you know that Bruce based that on "Sally My Dear," an old folk song that Pete Seeger on his "Goofing Off Suite" record on Folkways back in 1955. Maybe you've heard it, it goes "If the girls were all blackbirds, if the girls were all thrushes...We'd see all the boys taking guns to go hunt them."

Maybe you know my old friend Tom Paxton. I used to sing a song of Tom's called "Deep Fork River Blues." Tom'll tell you that it's just a rewrite of an old Appalachian song called "Swannanoa Tunnel" that guys like Bascom Lamar Lunsford and Roscoe Holcomb used to do.

You see Kendall, I'm like my contemporaries Bruce Phillips and Tom Paxton, and I'm like previous folksingers like Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie, Leadbelly and A.P. Carter, and many, many more. Some of what we do is just part of the folk process.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Peter T.
Date: 24 May 03 - 03:57 PM

The rhetoric about the "folk process" obscures the obvious fact that Dylan was in a transition period between an earlier tradition and the complete takeover by copyright (we are in the same period with genetically modified organisms and patents). That doesn't mean one can't make moral judgements, but it is messier than a straightforward statment that he was doing what everyone had done, or alternatively that he was a robber.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 May 03 - 06:47 PM

Well, I believe that pretty well covers it, gentlemen...

I love that long version of "In Search of Little Sadie" on "Self-Portrait". It's got some very neat chord changes.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: greg stephens
Date: 25 May 03 - 06:52 AM

Glad to hear you like something on Self Portrait, L Hawk. I'm sure you were slagging the record off as a crock of tripe a year ago. But I may be mistaken, I have a lousy memory.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Peter T.
Date: 25 May 03 - 04:14 PM

Speaking of Dylan's "borrowing", it appears that Dylan "borrowed" chunks of Saga's book Confessions of a Yakuza for many of the lyrics of "Love and Theft" (appropriate title perhaps?). Check out www.dylanchords.com. yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 May 03 - 05:16 PM

No, greg, that was somebody else. I like most of the stuff on Self-Portrait, though it has a few clunkers on it here and there.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 26 May 03 - 01:32 AM

Was that really you, Bob, logging in as "GUEST"? Sorry I missed the chance to wish you a happy birthday yesterday, but my internet connection was down all day long.

Seriously, though -- I was really surprised to see Bob Dylan chiming in here with the likes of us. Till now, I thought all those "GUEST" postings were from Christopher Guest!


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Big Tim
Date: 26 May 03 - 03:10 AM

I wish people would stop griping about Dylan stealing songs. Surely the hundreds and hundreds of songs that he has written, most of them of tremendous quality, should be enough to convince the world that the guy really can write. What more does he have to do? And don't ever stop, Bob - there was some great stuff on "Love and Theft". You're tops, end of story. ("catch that fly")!


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: kendall
Date: 26 May 03 - 03:18 PM

Ok, first, I don't believe you are Bob Dylan. Secondly, I have no complaint about using very old songs as a basis for a rewrite, what I on't like is someone taking a modern song, rewriting it and calling it his/hers. If the original auther is dead, fine, but, it's just good manners to wait until he IS dead!
Now, on the other side of the coin; Don't think twice is a better song, and, Bob Dylan is a master talent as a songwriter.
As far as his treatment of Joan Baez, I don't know anything about it, so, can't comment. He may have a personal problem, not uncommon among geniuses.
Finally, I've always been in love with Joan Baez, never with Bob Dylan. So, I'm biased, get over it.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 May 03 - 11:33 PM

Hey, Kendall, "they refused Jesus too..." :-)

I was in love with Joan Baez for years myself. Also Buffy Sainte-Marie. I love Bob too, but it's a different kind of love in some important respects, though not in all, that's for sure.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST,Bob Dylan
Date: 27 May 03 - 09:14 AM

Something is happening here and you don't know what it is, do you Mr. Morse?


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 May 03 - 12:32 PM

LOL! I like your style, Bob (needless to say...).


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST,Jeff Blythin
Date: 27 May 03 - 01:13 PM

I recall sitting down with Martin Carthy a few years back and listening to "Good as I been to you". He was exstatic about the CD and raved on and on about what a good guy Bob Dylan was and how the sleeve notes on "World Gone Wrong" were spot on. It was only after talking to him that night that I really appreciated the value and influence of previous music and song from days long gone.
Thank you.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 27 May 03 - 02:37 PM

Guest Jeff,

I thought I was the only one who liked "Good As I Been To You".


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 May 03 - 02:59 PM

I know what is happening, a lot of bullshit flying around.


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 27 May 03 - 04:04 PM

Hmm.....It's not even Hallowe'en and someone's wearing a Bob Dylan mask....


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 May 03 - 06:36 PM

I like "Good As I Been To You" a whole lot. I like "World Gone Wrong" even better. Best liner notes about music ever on that one.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 29 May 03 - 07:41 AM

Until Carter Family and a the rare Hill Billy recordings Folk - did not pay! At that time including and up till Woody G it was mostly hicks with a cheap Guitar making a buck.

Later Urbanised - ie Folk learned off a recording of Folk - created the likes of Dollar Diddle Bob.

If there ain't a buck in it, Tenbob is nowhere to be seen.

The person poser above is just a poser....

Now if there was a posting here by Joan B, that I would beleive since she was first of all a Folk singer - not a Dollar doll


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Subject: RE: Dylan Documentary: What Would You Ask?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 May 03 - 12:18 PM

Some people are actually good at more than just one thing, Sorefingers.

Like: Truly loving the music AND making money at it at the same time. You oughta read a few of the books about young Bob and you would see how much he loves the music and always did.

As for your analysis of Joan...I agree. She is idealistic to the core.

- LH


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