BS: Whole world gone potty

Subject: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: GUEST,Bananas
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 01:32 AM

Gee talk about potty training and crap all ova the sofa...

or is it rugratleakdwee all ova ....

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: GUEST,jock
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 01:48 AM

Och donna worry ... shes as daft as a owl wi a raincoat!

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 03:19 AM

Puggled.. that's what she be, puggled.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 03:21 AM

Or as it says on my great great great grandmothers asylum committal form: 'disordered in her senses'

A lovely euphamism for epileptic actually, but it describes some people very accurately.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 11:41 AM

This is one of those tangential threads that strikes me as peculiarly Brit, if I may say so -- a sort of composite of carefully studied irrelevancies and impenetrable non-sequiturs whose only sense is in its slighty impulsive and rootless nature. It's a kind of humor much appreciated in the UK, but absolutely pointless to others in the English speaking world and therefore vaguely irritating and bewildering.

That's just my opinion.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 12:35 PM

such an interesting way to say "quaintly barmy, these Brits" (some of them are quite the singers, though, so we'll tolerate, hmmmm?) ;>))

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: annamill
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 12:35 PM

Amos, you have to admit, though, that it's kinda cute.

Love, Annamill

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 12:39 PM

Well, yeah...like the antics of a pet or a small child are...but only as long asyou don't try to make any sense of them! :>)

A

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: annamill
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 12:50 PM

** ;-) **

L.A.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: GUEST,lollipops
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 02:53 PM

Potty training a puppy is slightly similar but does not require reading skills.

Is the athor anal as well?

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Hollowfox
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 06:19 PM

Here I thought this was going to be a thread about that Rowling book that came out today.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 06:30 PM

I think it is.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 07:00 PM

It's a cynical and bitter judgement on a world that has become hysterical and potentially violent, because of the press coverage for a book.... how many books are published daily? How many of those are part of a series? How many are eagerly awaited??

I'm just bitter and cynical because I can't afford the surgery on my wrist which is what I'll need after hefting it around to read it - I'm waiting for the paperback too.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 07:59 PM

Oh, it's about Rowling's book.

I thought that it was a reaffirmation of something I figured out years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: GUEST,Richard H
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 10:25 PM

This is no doubt off topic but since I don't have a clue what the topic is about and it does mention potties which is what my query is about, here goes:

We in my part of the world are in a serious drought and water-shortage situation. And it came up in a discussion by experts on such matters that American toilets have a 3 inch outlet hole in the bottom while British toilets have a 4-inch hole. It has been recommended that American toilets be banned but they're about $100 cheaper than Brits.

The question is however: why would peoples of similar genetic make-up and presumably similar outputs have such widely varying toilet requirements?

This is the sort of topic one finds oneself pondering when unable to sleep due to indigestion. Please forget it and go back to Potter or whoever.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Susan from California
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 10:43 PM

Ahhhh, and in my part of Southern California, we are very limited when we purchase a new toilet. It must only use a few gallons of water, which is not always sufficient. So we spent a lot of $$ and have what we like to call our "Turbo Toilet". It flushes with compressed air or something, and if we don't warn guests, they get a little bit freaked out :-)

As to the above 3 or 4 inch outlet, wouldn't the one w/ the smaller hole use less water? Wouldn't that be better in a drought? Last ime I went to the hardware store, the Q was 1 3/4 inches or 1 5/8. . .

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 11:21 PM

Those low volume toilets have shown up in Canada. We flush them once to get ready, two for the show and three to flow! The new Rowling may take a lot more flushes to dispose of it.
Home Depot is making a fortune replacing the innards with a functional installation.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Jun 03 - 11:26 PM

Would that the US had never changed!

Ah, Canada, where the toilets used to really flush....

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jun 03 - 04:02 PM

Such b -anality

Ha ha ha

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Amos
Date: 22 Jun 03 - 04:28 PM

Did you mean to write bagnality? Or bañality?

A

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Mickey191
Date: 22 Jun 03 - 06:38 PM

Having recently replaced a toilet with one with less volume, I was advised by my plumber that the latest item being smuggled in from Canada are toilets. It was against the U.S. law, he said, to manufacture a 3 gallon toilet. In Canada, Big Brother is not paying attention to such mundane affairs, he said. In the U.S. the Government has put governers on air conditioners so as to control ones comfort zone, he said. So he was just talking rubbish? Canada is really doing the same thing to its' citizens? It's a disgrace!! Do you think George Bush has a 2 gallon crapper?

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Hrothgar
Date: 23 Jun 03 - 06:30 AM

Do Yanks need bigger pipes because they're full of it?

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Gervase
Date: 23 Jun 03 - 11:22 AM

Reminds me of the plumber called to deal with a persistent blockage in the foul pipes of some Norfolk estate. Aftr much rodding, humming, hahing and scratching of head, he comes up with the answer. "Problem is, bor," he says, "That you've got a three-inch pipe and someone in that house has a four-inch arsehole!"
Sorry, I'll get me coat...

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jun 03 - 01:35 PM

The problem is that a low-flush toilet that works has only recently been invented. Of all six North American brand low-flush toilets sold up to about a year and a half ago, none worked well. I had one and my procedure was to flush before use to wet the bowl, flush after use to remove most of the waste, clean above the water line with wet toilet paper, flush to remove the remaininbg waste, and maybe still have to flush once more.... not much on water savings and certainly a pain in the arse (I know, I know).

I recently replaced it with a man's toilet. A Gerber 3.5 gpf, 17.5" high at the rim, with elongated bowl. Large water surface. No cold contact with any part of the anatomy not used for sitting. One flush per use, period. Compared to a low-flush, it's a pleasure to start the day.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jun 03 - 03:23 PM

Still when it comes to anal the wee lass is hard to lick - not to mention smelly -...I mean with the entire population looking down, and the rest scratching their asses it has to be a 'record'.

Oh well can't be helped I spoz

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Mickey191
Date: 23 Jun 03 - 05:11 PM

Gnu, A man's toilet?? Does the door say Men's Room?
I'm dense--are you saying it's a urinal? If it is--
may one inquire where the big deposits are sent. Never having used a urinal, I assumed they were just for urine--is that wrong? I'm going thru the maddening procedure you described, so I'm in the market for an efficent unit. Thanks for a heads up!

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: artbrooks
Date: 23 Jun 03 - 06:11 PM

I installed a Kohler 1.6 gpf toilet about a year ago. The model number might be K-4620-DA. It almost always does the job on one flush, and, as my wife and many Mudcatters can attest, I am often full of it.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Mudlark
Date: 24 Jun 03 - 12:09 AM

Flush diameters aside, apparently the Japanese like to be distracted while using "the facility." Not satisfied with magazines, or even a telephone close at hand, they manufacture toilets that play music, note your weight and even analyze deposits. In the article I read, no mention was made of flow rate...

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Mickey191
Date: 24 Jun 03 - 03:03 AM

Art, Thanks alot for the info. It's great to see Mudcat hasn't changed-One can find out Anything here!
How many people in the civilized world know the model # of their toilet? It's heartwarming.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Jun 03 - 04:19 AM

Apparently, British Toilet capacity and flush strength was tested by using one half of the Daily Telegraph. If that flushed away first time, the cistern was properly adjusted and the bends were clear. If not, it went back to the workshop to be 'adjusted'.

Why the Daily Telegraph I don't know.. I can think of much more suitable newspapers to flush......

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: gnu
Date: 24 Jun 03 - 06:35 AM

Sorry... I don't know the names and models of the recently developed toilets. Apparently, Art has one of the ones that work well. I'll have a peek at the NRC, CMHC, etc, sites today if I get time. I recall seeing a demo of a number of LF toilets on "Just Ask Jon Eakes" but I can't recall which research facility put on the demo. "... heads up..." hehehe

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jun 03 - 11:45 AM

"The problem is that a low-flush toilet that works has only recently been invented. Of all six North American brand low-flush toilets sold up to about a year and a half ago, none worked well."

Can't believe the country which gave us Thomas Edison and Benjamin Franklin couldn't invent a working toilet. Especially as those old "Best Niagara" overhead types with that most satisfying chain to pull did a good job.

I suspect it has more to do with veggie diets. When thing floats, it's harder to flush. Recommend vegetarians pay extra tax for multiple flushing and waste of water.

(Have a personal axe to grind here. Two of my offsprings have turned veggie and I've had my FILL of veggie burgers, veggie pizzas, lentils...) Apologise for rant.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 Jun 03 - 04:18 PM

From an excellent book on the subject, "Clean and Decent, a history of the Bathroom and the WC" by Lawrence Wright. (No bog bookshelf should be without it):

Jennings' 'Pedestal Vase' won the Gold Medal Award at the Health exhibition of 1884, being judged 'as perfect a sanitary closet as can be made'. In a test, it comletely cleared, with a 2-gallon flush,

10 apples averaging 1 1/4 inches in diameter
1 flat spnge about 4 1/2 inches diameter
Plumbers 'smudge' coated over the pan
4 pices of paper adhering closely toteh soiled surface

A simpler test was that improvised by Mr Shanks who, when trying a new model, seized the cap from the head of an attendant apprentice, thrust it in, pulled the chain, saw it go and cried out happily, 'It works!'

To bring the two thread elements together, this does actually tie in with the Potter book, where one of the sub-plot elements is that some wizard is going round the public bogs in London laying a regurgitating spell on them. Nasty stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Jun 03 - 06:36 PM

Ah, I think he was practising in our building - we had a spate of phantom bog blocker action - someone was putting entire unravelled rolls of paper down the loo and flushing, thus nicely flooding the bathrooms.

I made it clear that if I ever caught who was doing it, I'd use their head as paper and see if they liked it.

It's not happened for a while.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: SINSULL
Date: 24 Jun 03 - 07:59 PM

Wasn't there an exploding toilet in the book "Hotel New Hampshire"? In an NYC hotel? Stream of Consciousness - Sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: JennyO
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 12:07 AM

The best scene of a flooding toilet that I ever saw - in fact one of the funniest scenes ever in a movie IMO, was in the movie "The Party", where Peter Sellers as an out-of-work Indian actor, Hrundi V Bakshi, was trying to fix a toilet that would not stop flushing, and the situation escalated into one disaster after another. The whole movie was like that - it's one of my all time favourites!

Jenny

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 07:14 AM

Most UK cisterns have a dual flush design. If you release the handle immediately you will get only a short flush suitable for "little jobs", if you hold the handle down until the flush has finished you will get a full flush suitable for "big jobs".

- Not many people know that - Michael Caine

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 07:17 AM

I hate those low level boxes on a wall with a handle - you can't beat an overhead cistern with a chain.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: DMcG
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 07:34 AM

Surely, gravity being what it is, an overhead cistern using the same amount of water as a low-level one should be more effective? Or, alternatively, a high-level cistern should need less water for the same effectiveness?

I suppose its just another case of fashion overcoming reason ...

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: GUEST,Pelrad
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 10:09 AM

My favorite are these new-fangled motion-detector flushers on commercial toilets. Move just a little bit to get hold of the paper, and you get a cold shower on the wrong end. My kids are terrified of them, afraid they're going to be sucked in.

Dave Barry did an article a while back about the 2.5 gallon toilet and the Canadian toilet smuggling business.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 10:45 AM

McGrath - you wait until you come across an overhead cistern where someone has "jimmied" it by drilling a small hole in the downpipe that drenches you when you pull the chain ! - you won't be so keen then.

Has anyone come across one of these loos (seem to be popular in France) where there is a sort of waste disposal unit and pump just round the bend - I gather that they allow smaller diameter waste pipes. The first time I used one it scared the s**t out of me - and I'd just "been" once already. If some of what I've read about Spaw is true, he'd have to be careful using one in case he got caught in the works !

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 12:05 PM

One of THE funniest scenes I've ever seen in a movie was the one you speak of, JennyO. When he pulls on the TP roll and it doesn't stop and just he stares at it, motionless... priceless.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: GUEST,Richard H
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 02:06 PM

You're at someone's house-party. There's a line-up of anxious people waiting noisily to get in. You flush a number of times (not too many lest they think you're a pervert) but sizeable pieces of thing refuse to go down. What's the politically correct etiquette here?

1. Cover your head with the shower-curtain and emerge with a rush?
2. Grab at it (them) with toilet paper and put them in the cistern?
3. Put down the lid and cover it with shampoo bottles, hair-spray, tampons, Optrex etc. in the hope that you can be in another time zone before the next in line opens it?
4. Other?

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 07:43 PM

The shared house I once lived in, had one for so long we christened it Norman and finally got rid of him with a sharp stick and a good long flush. Took nearly 4 days for him to go though.. just when you thought it was safe, he'd pop his end back round the U-bend.....

No-one ever did own up from the other two... I know it wasn't me, I was vegetarian at that time.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 07:49 PM

I'd have thought a vegetarian would be chief suspect.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: SINSULL
Date: 25 Jun 03 - 09:37 PM

My most embarrassing bathroom moment was having the lock jam on the door of the only bathroom in a house used for a wedding reception. Lots of uncomfortable people outside. Me dying of mortification inside as two less than sober gents took the hinges off the door.

Norman, Liz???? Norman???? God but you lead an interesting life.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 07:47 AM

I quite like the WC pans which siphon everything out and then refill the pan from a sort of reservoir.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: JennyO
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 12:20 PM

Oh dear, what can the matter be
Three old ladies locked in the lavatory
They were there from Monday to Saturday
Nobody knew they were there.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 26 Jun 03 - 05:36 PM

The first to were off to have tea with the vicar,
They went in together, they thought it'd be quicker,
The lavatory door was a bit of a sticker
And vicar had tea all alone.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 05:00 AM

The next to go in was Elizabeth Humphrey
She got stuck fast and could not get her bum free
Still she had to admit it was ever so comfy
And nobody knew she was there.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: artbrooks
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 09:11 AM

The last one's name was Elizabeth Carter
She was known as a world renowned farter
She went in and played a sonata
And nobody knew she was there.

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 10:22 AM

I thought this thread was about Harry Potter & avoided it as I'm avoiding anything about the book till I have time to read it (and it won't be this weekend) but JennyO told me about it. I was laughing so hard I was almost crying.

Last year I needed a new cistern as the existing one was coming off the wall & was a bit of a worry. The new one is a modern dual flush version, a marvel of modern technology. But is smaller than the old one & my collection of 12 plastic ducks no longer fits on the lid. Now half of them have to sit elsewhere. I don't like change, but ...

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: Whole world gone potty
From: GUEST,Richard H
Date: 27 Jun 03 - 08:02 PM

On a point of elucidation, my family doesn't object when I read in the bathroom. And there are only mild mutterings if I take in the mandolin or guitar.

But there's a near riot if I spend my time in there practising the trombone. I maintain that the bathroom is an area where unwelcome, involuntary noises are frequent, and a trombone is a legitimate cover for such activities.

Especially in these days of thin sidewalls. A female companion and I had a rough time on a visit to the States where we stayed at people's homes after long car trips. Companion was reduced to flushing first, turning on all taps, and singing loudly while trying to evacuate hurriedly.

A trombone would have eliminated that problem and I suggest that there should be one in every bathroom. Would this be a widely held position?