Origins: looking for origins of Loch Lomond

Subject: Origins: looking for origins of Loch Lomond
From: rightwaycorrigan
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 12:41 PM

I am a songwriter, who used the first and second verse of Loch Lomond in conjunction with a song I wrote about walking around a lake outside of Nashville Tennessee. i would like to check the origins of the tune. Can anyone help?
The song is to be on my new cd " The Love I'm In" , to be out in January...great Nashville musicians. Best thing I've ever done. great way to start the new year , eh?
Thank you in advance for any help .
- rightwaycorrigan

Subject: RE: Origins: looking for origins of Loch Lomond
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 12:49 PM

Malcolm Douglas has posted a great deal of information on this - in various threads.

try a search on loch lomand

one such post

Subject: RE: Origins: looking for origins of Loch Lomond
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 01:17 PM

Two more threads, look especially at posts by Murray and Bruce. Much fakelore on this song (it dates to the mid-19th c, not back to the Jacobite Rebellion). Possibly by Lady Scott. The basics are given in Traditional Ballad Indexcsufresno (Type in "Loch Lomond"): Ballad Search

Thread 2785: Lomond
Thread 17153: Lomond

Subject: RE: Origins: looking for origins of Loch Lomond
From: masato sakurai
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 08:54 PM

And see The Fiddler's Companion: Loch Lomond.

Subject: RE: Origins: looking for origins of Loch Lomond
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 17 Dec 03 - 09:20 PM

The references there to Loch Lomond are not among Andrew Kuntz's more glorious moments. I think that we have more accurate information here; though of course you do have to filter out all the romantic tosh that people generally insist on posting when this particular song is mentioned.

Subject: RE: Origins: looking for origins of Loch Lomond
From: GUEST,pavane
Date: 18 Dec 03 - 02:49 AM

I did come across, and post to an 'origins' thread here, a broadside in the Bodley collection from about 1820, which DID have the 'You'll take the high road' verse, but didn't actually mention Loch Lomond.
Unfortunately I can't find it at the moment.

This seems to be the earliest version so far.

Subject: RE: Origins: looking for origins of Loch Lomond
From: GUEST,pavane
Date: 18 Dec 03 - 02:55 AM

The one I found might have been a version of Flora's Lament for her Charlie, listed by Malcolm Douglas in his posting (see link above).
It does actually mention the banks of Benlomond.

Subject: RE: Origins: looking for origins of Loch Lomond
From:
Date: 18 Dec 03 - 06:48 AM

Pavane, that's the one I remember seeing. I looked at it, and it's got to be Loch Lomond in an earlier form.

Subject: RE: Origins: looking for origins of Loch Lomond
From: masato sakurai
Date: 18 Dec 03 - 07:38 AM

"Flora's lament for her Charlie" is also at Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads.

floras lament for her charlie [title]

Subject: RE: Origins: looking for origins of Loch Lomond
From: Lighter
Date: 20 Jun 13 - 08:40 PM

I've added more on "Loch Lomond's" history to the current "100 Pipers" thread.