DT Attribution & Minor Corrections - recorded msgs

Subject: RE: Attribution added: DT authors PermaThread
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 09:26 PM

In this thread (click), Bryan bowers says that Hot Buttered Rum was written by Tommy Thompson of the Red Clay Ramblers.

The DT is uncertain, but says it may have been written by Bowers. Bowers strongly denied that.

-Joe Offer-

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Corrected in 2002 Digital Tradition
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Attribution added: DT authors PermaThread
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 02:21 PM

In the thread, yes; the DT text doesn't include the modern verses, and is correctly attributed to Burns: TIBBIE DUNBAR^^

Subject: RE: Attribution added: DT authors PermaThread
From: MMario
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 02:03 PM

Tibbie Dunbar First verse and Chorus Robert Burns - 2nd and third verses Jim McLean (dt songfile TBiednbr

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2002 Digital Tradition has Burns verse and chorus only.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Attribution added: DT authors PermaThread
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 25 Jul 02 - 11:22 PM

Well, yes; I know that. Many of those problems seem to be the result of people copy-and-pasting accent marks instead of using the correct html codes; there isn't much point in complaining later on when they stop working, which is pretty well guaranteed to happen. Fortunately, Gaelic uses fewer diacriticals than the majority of European languages. Proper attributions are, I think, more important, though I certainly share your concern for accuracy. In the past, it does seem that the DT has placed more weight on quantity than quality; maybe this thread will help to redress the balance.

Subject: RE: Attribution added: DT authors PermaThread
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 25 Jul 02 - 10:12 PM

MO Ri GEAL DILEAS should be Mo Rún Geal ... same problem with diacriticals in this DT item as with Mo Ghile Mear, though this is not what I meant by "attribution", of course. I'll send Dick a correction when I can.

Subject: RE: Attribution added: DT authors PermaThread
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 25 Jul 02 - 09:24 PM

It may well be that many of the missing attributions have been added to the new version of the DT, which we have not yet seen; and I have been adding missing attributions to the "Missing Tunes" thread, too; however, it may well be useful to have a list in one place; not to nag, I hope, but to provide a helpful resource. Here are a few more; I think they're all accurate. Some have been mentioned quite regularly over several years.

FAIR ELIZA Robert Burns, 1792.
href=file:///@displaysong.cfm?SongID=5244&Title=SEVEN%20DAFFODILS>SEVEN DAFFODILS, of which it is a mis-spelled duplicate. Written by Lee Hayes and Fran Moseley in the early 1960s. In copyright.

"Wae's me for Prince Charlie" is in Hogg's Jacobite Relics, II, #99, 1821. In the notes he notes that it was said to be by Willam Glen. Hogg gives the tune, and in the notes mentions that it is "The Gypsie Laddie". Hogg has a further (last) verse to the song as follows.

But now the bird saw some redcoats,
And he shook his wings wi' anger:
"O this is no land for me,
"I'll tarry here nae laner."
A while he hover'd on the wing,
Ere he departed fairly:
But weel I mind the fareweel strain;
'Twas "Wae's me for Prince Charlie!"

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Only one of the above corrected in 2002 Digital Tradition
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Attribution added: DT authors PermaThread
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Jul 02 - 08:19 PM

Waltzing Matilda discussion posted at Joe's link above, as requested.

Subject: RE: Attribution added: DT authors
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jul 02 - 06:35 PM

Dicho - what is your published authority for your statement?

Subject: RE: Attribution added: DT authors
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Jul 02 - 05:46 PM

Waltzing Matilda- lyrics correctly attributed to Banjo Patterson, but music is by Christina MacPherson.

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Thread #49846   Message #754630
Posted By: GUEST
25-Jul-02 - 06:35 PM
Thread Name: Attribution added: DT authors PermaThread
Subject: RE: Attribution added: DT authors

Dicho - what is your published authority for your statement?

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Looks like there's a need for discussion on this one. Continue discussion in this thread (click). If we come up with conclusive information, I'll make sure it gets posted here.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Attribution added: DT authors
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 25 Jul 02 - 05:41 PM

Strange Fruit," see current thread, should be attributed to Abel Meeropol aka Lewis Allen solely. Also original lyrics should be checked- this could be someone's revision.

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NOT Corrected in 2002 Digital Tradition - DT attributes it to Billie Holliday and Lewis Allen, which I consider plausible.
-Joe Offer-
Since this does not seem to be resolved, I am leaving it alone. SOF

Subject: RE: Attribution added: DT authors
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 25 Jul 02 - 07:44 AM

Lagan Love - lyrics by Joseph Campbell - two sets of lyrics in the 2002 Digital Tradition, one unattributed.
♪Mo Ghile Mear - original Irish Gaelic was by Seán Clárach Mac Domhnaill [the DT transcription is badly mangled]

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NOT Corrected in 2002 Digital Tradition
-Joe Offer-
The Transit Van - Seán Mone http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=7066
My Son in Amerikay - Alf Mac Lochlainn (in DT as "Son in Americay")

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NONE Corrected in 2002 Digital Tradition
-Joe Offer-^^