BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?

Subject: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: s6k
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 09:19 PM

My answer to this conundrum would be.. YES

when i unfortunately saw the odd 10 minutes on occasional nights, i was cringing.. like i did when i saw the office, but not for the same reasons.

the office = great

will & grace = shite

i thought.. this show wont last another week.. but it has... please take it away from the screen. its shite, and has never been funny and is CRAP.

its shite

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Cluin
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 09:37 PM

Quit holding back. How do you REALLY feel about it?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 09:48 PM

Who are Will And Grace? i neber heard of them, are they a new pop group or something?
if so, they probly shite, you can't even hear waht they bloddy singing about nowadays!, you call that music? its shite!

I was flicking through the channels on my wireless tonight, i heard the hit parade, i switched it off straight away, rubbish!

half of them can't even bloddy sing!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Cluin
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:06 PM

I guess some people must find it a funny show since it hasn't been cancelled yet. A gay guy and his friend and the fag hags who love them. Fairly unfunny, most of it.
A lot of self-indulgent claptrap. Same thing with "Dharma & Greg". And "Friends" (though the first season had some moments).

But I liked "Seinfeld"... go figure.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:09 PM

But you also gave us "Bewitched" and "I Dream of Jeanie" so all is forgiven.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:12 PM

Too many gay programs about nowadays, they bloddy taking over!
there is a new one on UK TV now, "Gay men tell straight man how to get dressed", or something similar, and most of them big brother people were gay.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: GUEST,cecil
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:15 PM

I am a gay hamster and you have offended me.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:17 PM

i'm not bothered.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:20 PM

Anyway=I thought of a good idea for a telly program=
they should put a few hamsters in a big hamster house, and see waht happens, broadcast it on telly 24 hors a day for 3 months, there should be a few gay hamsters, a transvesual hamster a black hamster, and an asylum seeking hamster.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:22 PM

They Could call it =The Big Hamster House.

If they use this idea, i will expect a few quid off them, as it was my idea, [a tenner would be ok].

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: GUEST,cecil
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:30 PM

But would we be allowed to get married?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:31 PM

yes, you could sell your story to the papers.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: GUEST,cecil
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:35 PM

I've got standards you know.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Cluin
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:35 PM

Then you wouldn't want anything to do with TV.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 12:50 AM

YES!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: s6k
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 07:16 AM

I HATE WILL AND GRACE AND WOULD RATHER WATCH 10 HOURS OF CRICKET THAN ONE EPISODE.

the big hamster house is a smashing idea, i would definately watch that.

queer eye for the straight guy... that is one SHITE program, i seen 5 minutes of it. i wont blody where waht a gay pherson tell me, i wear waat i bloody well want too were.

too much reeality programs on telly nowadays, like how not to decorate your home, what not to wear, the block, PRACTICALLY EVERYTHING IS A REALITY SHOW.

NEXT WEEK: HOW CLEAN IS YOUR ARSE

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 09:47 AM

Spotless !!!!

eric

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: maire-aine
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 12:39 PM

so what?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 01:37 PM

I can't stand Will & Grace, and resent the implication that this makes me a homophobe. I have had plenty of gay friends, co-workers, clients, etc. over the years (I live in New Orleans, after all), and they're not all entralled with that annoying sappy campy humor that characterizes W&G. Gag me with a spoon!

Hell, I'll even confess to enjoying "Queer Eye," and would volunteer in a minute for one of their queer makeovers. I'll take the $5 grand's worth of clothes, furniture, gourmet food, and CDs that they seem to give away to each subject. No way I'd ever spend my own money on a good Italian suit, for example, but I could probably convince those guys that I "need" one .

The day after they left, of course, I lose all the hair- and skin-care "product," and maybe the most flamboyant item or two of clothing. Might also see if I could trade in some of their recommended CDs for stuff I would have chosen myself.

I am a fan, more or less, of Harry Connick Jr., who was a semi-regular on W&G for a year or so before being written out of the script. (Maybe if the series is just starting in the UK, you Brits won't see him for another year or two.) His character actually married Grace, but being hetero, he apparently didn't have what it took to hold her perverse interest.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 08:33 AM

yes..."Will & Grace" is shite ...as is 99.9% of the crap on commercial TV. Like the bumper sticker says, "Why do you think they call it programming?"

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: robomatic
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 05:29 PM

I have never sat through an entire episode of that Dreck.

But I'd pretend to be gay if it got me next to Megan Mullaly. I know I could bring her around. She'd never want anything limp again.


Ever.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: s6k
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 09:42 PM

its really shite9

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: GUEST,Lucy6
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 11:13 AM

What is Shite?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: s6k
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 02:16 PM

will and grace

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 11:11 AM

there's a reason it's called "programming."

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Nick
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 10:04 PM

I think it's excellent. Finely written and hugely witty.

Not a homophobe in Hull thing is it?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 09:49 AM

Herself enjoys it so I have watched it BUT... it seems a one-joke show , the joke has run out and the gay characters seem to have no topic of conversation other than gay concerns. None of my gay friends talk like that.
However, everyone in US sitcoms talks in snappy one-liners like Woody Allen or Groucho Marx!
I find "Grace" too twee for words (pass the sick bag Alice)and as for "Karen"'s silly voice....spoils some of the good lines she gets.
Now when it comes on I go and do the washing up!

RtS
(Bring back "Taxi"!)

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 01:49 AM

How clean is your hamster house?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 01:57 AM

anyway= some people say that hamsters smell bad, they dont!
hamsters awlays shit in the corner, and don't smell,
its mouses that smell, and rats.
anyway=oneof my customers got a rat for a pet, she's about 25 or something, and i think she fancies me, but she's a bit weird, she lives in Marlborough avenue, , she said one day ="hello john, come to my place after work , and see my rat etc", i said " no thanks rat woman, i going home to eat my curry"
shes a bit weird and scary looking, she got a metal thing in her chin, like Eliza Carthy, and her flat is really dark, and she always wears black dresses, i think she's a witch, not sure really, and she looks a bit mental.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: s6k
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 04:12 AM

hamsters dont smell, ive had two

but also ratts dont smell either! i had one of them too.. one time, it sat on my dads shoulder and watched coranaration street with himm.

i think you should accept goth woman invitation to see her "rat"

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 04:16 AM

you could go instead, i think her name be Mellany, and she live at 131 marlborough Ave.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: GUEST,Hugh Jampton
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 06:14 AM

Don`t know about "Will & Grace" but Seinfeld is the most singularly un-funny show I`ve seen on t.v. I guess I must be well out of step with the rest of the world, certain of our t.v. go mad about it.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 06:45 AM

And does anyone find that Letterman chatshow funny, apart from him that is, think his first name is David?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 06:19 PM

Both Seinfeld and Letterman, I believe, require a high sense of irony to be appreciated. The two shows don't necessarily play to the exact same sensibility, but there is quite a bit of common ground. Familiarity with contemporary US foibles, vs a lack thereof, might also be an important factor.

For those who *like* the Seinfeld series, you'll probably really enjoy Larry David's HBO series "Curb Your Enthusiasm," the early seasons of which are now available on DVD. Larry was co-creator of "Seinfled" (with Jerry Seinfled, of course), and the real-life model for the character George Costanza.

I thoroughly enjoy all three of the above, but have no need to (nor hope of) converting the unimpressed. Letterman, in particular, is such a long-familiar character by now -- like an old family friend who visits our living room most weekday evenings -- that I'm usually ready to laugh at just about any stupid thing he starts to talk about.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: robomatic
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 06:30 PM

I'm amazed that anyone gets Seinfeld, it's too New York-ish and neurotic, but I guess it broke new ground. Pretty much anyone in that show was strange and unlikeable, and the plots when they had any were driven by the most neurotic character of all.

Letterman survives by quirkiness and the Top Ten. He also broke new ground, then planted himself in it.

The greatest show of the last decade and then some is hands down The Simpsons. They 'get' Americans and they've had fun with the Brits, Ozzies, Canadians, and Japanese. How about the dentist who scares his young kids into braces by showing them "The Big Book Of British Smiles"?

South Park is not for everyone, but it is f&%king brilliant, offensive in all directions, and takes no prisoners.

And I'd still do Megan Mullaly

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 06:55 PM

Nope don't get the Simpsons either. It is aired early evening in Uk so have only caught glimpses, but it just seems like a bunch of shrieking kids cartoon characters. Is it for kids or adults?
But it does have a following here. Southpark, nope again.

I suspose we have been spoilt by decades of intelligently well written and acted comedy.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 07:04 PM

But we watch them all anyways.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Will & Grace Shite?
From: robomatic
Date: 13 Sep 04 - 10:09 PM

GUEST surely you jest.

On this side western of the pond we watch all the best of Anglo television on our public broadcasting, but I've seen the regular stuff you guys watch and it isn't any better than our run of the mill stuff.

Simpsons isn't for everybody, most of my friends do not let young children watch it. I didn't watch it for the first few seasons, and was much bemused by the enthusiastic Simpsonites who would corner me in the Supermarket and go on and on about the plots of the Simpsons. It took a couple years of watching and i became one of those headcases myself.

"One more word out of you kids and Bart doesn't get dessert, and Lisa doesn't go to college!"

"Shoplifting is a victimless crime - like punchin' somebody in the dark!"

"Marge, I'd kill for you. Please ask me to kill for you!"

"When he said that Monster Island was only a name, he meant it was actually a peninsula!"

"You can train any dog with two magic words - 'choke chain'"