Subject: BS: New Planet? From: RangerSteve Date: 31 Jul 05 - 10:46 PM I got home from work last night and really wanted to go to bed, but Law and Order,Criminal Intent looked intriguing, so I stayed up, and learned that there would be a story on the news concerning a new planet. Of course, the news started with all the usual crap about crime in Philadelphia, which is pretty far from where I live and I don't care, so since I was really tired by that point, I went to bed, thinking that there would be a story in the Sunday paper. There wasn't. There was nothing posted on the Yahoo home page either. So what happened? Was I so tired that I hallucinated the whole story? Also, I propose that we ditch the usual Latin names and call this one Jim Bob. No special reason, I just think Jim Bob is a good name for a planet. Steve |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Tweed Date: 31 Jul 05 - 11:00 PM No, it's real RS and they think it's bigger than Pluto, which ain't all that big. I heard something on NPR Friday or Saturday about it. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: John O'L Date: 31 Jul 05 - 11:19 PM Here is the story of (sorry RS) object 2003UB313, or Xena. I too prefer Jim Bob. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Peace Date: 31 Jul 05 - 11:33 PM Jim Bob sounds good. Of course, on formal occasions it might be best to revert to James Robert. Jus' an idea. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: khandu Date: 31 Jul 05 - 11:55 PM I vote "Planet khandusian". Has a nice ring to it, eh? khandu |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Peace Date: 01 Aug 05 - 12:03 AM The planet ain't GOT a ring to it. That's Saturn and Uranus yer thinkin' of. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: khandu Date: 01 Aug 05 - 12:10 AM My anus has a ring to it??? Oh...yeah. k |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Peace Date: 01 Aug 05 - 12:25 AM Some days it jus' don' pay to get up. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Cluin Date: 01 Aug 05 - 12:45 AM I don't believe the Jimbobians would be pleased to learn you are all being so flippant concerning their home. Have a healthy respect for them and their Triple Spiked Corn-Seeking Anal Probes. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Peace Date: 01 Aug 05 - 12:49 AM It's gonna play hell with the mnemonic: Many Very Early Men Ate Juicy Steaks Using No Plates. How about "Many Very Early Men Ate Juicy Steaks Using No Plates, Jack!" |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Amos Date: 01 Aug 05 - 12:55 AM Not one but two. One just beyond Neptune, the other out beyond Jupiter. They were found within a few days; not noticed before because they -- or at least one of them -- is up about 45º to the usual plane. There is a rgument in rarified circles as to whether they qualify as planets or not. Pictures here. A |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Amos Date: 01 Aug 05 - 01:07 AM Astronomical detective work led to the stunning discovery of a large new world beyond Pluto – and hiding in plain sight. The object could be the biggest in the Kuiper belt of rocky objects that orbit the outer reaches of the solar system. The first data made public about the object suggested the object could be up to twice the size of Pluto, but newly revealed observations indicate the object is about 70% Pluto's diameter. The find suggests more such objects are waiting to be discovered and is likely to reignite the fierce debate about what constitutes a planet. On Thursday, an email with the subject, "Big TNO discovery, urgent" was sent to a popular astronomy mailing list. The message described the discovery of a "very bright" object that was creeping along slowly beyond the orbit of Neptune - making it a Trans-Neptunian Object, or TNO. If the reflectivity is as dim as most other distant, rocky objects that have been studied, the object "would be larger than Pluto," Jose-Luis Ortiz, an astronomer at the Sierra Nevada Observatory in Spain, wrote in the email. Pluto is about 2300 kilometres across. The reason the second one in particular may not be called a planet is the same reason that some poeple think Pluto should not be called one -- it is an overgrown Kuiper belt rocky objects. The Kuiper belt, where Pluto (not Jupiter as I said) is found apparently has many solid objects of ice and rock in it. Anyway, we're up to at least ten if the debate doesn't squash the motion. A |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Cluin Date: 01 Aug 05 - 01:10 AM Many Very Enthusiastic Men Ate Jennifer Staunchly Unflinching Notwithstanding Previously Jawed Boils |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Peace Date: 01 Aug 05 - 01:52 AM Nice touch with the 'boils' there Cluin. A lesser individual would have chosen the easy way out. Proud of you, buddy. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Splott Man Date: 01 Aug 05 - 04:33 AM My Very Easy Mnemonic Shows Us Nine Planets (Plusone) So the new one would have to begin with P or A for Andsome or E for Etcetera or... |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: John O'L Date: 01 Aug 05 - 06:22 AM What's this 'Ate' business anyway? What planet does 'A' stand for? Splott Man's model doesn't seem to have a Jupiter, but everyone else seems to be comfortable with an extra planet starting with A. I wonder what Jim & Bob think of all this. I suspect that they have known for centuries (Jim Bob centuries) that there are actually 12 planets. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Paul Burke Date: 01 Aug 05 - 07:34 AM A = Asteroid belt I suspect they chose Xena from Planet X. how do you pronounce it? Ex-Ena, Zener, Khhhhena, Gzena??? I also suspect they'll find hundreds more about the same size, now that they are counting lumps of ice and muck as planets. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,Mrr Date: 01 Aug 05 - 11:48 AM I thought the decision was already taken to call any 10th planet Persephone. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: MMario Date: 01 Aug 05 - 11:57 AM But the tenth planet is already Sedna. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST Date: 01 Aug 05 - 12:05 PM Many Very Early Men Ate Juicy Steaks Using No Plates Jim-bututnotasweknowit-Bob |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: MudGuard Date: 01 Aug 05 - 12:16 PM As all readers of the Hitchhikers Guide know, the tenth planet has the name "Rupert". |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST Date: 01 Aug 05 - 07:04 PM Maybe I'm just showing my ignorance but..... What IS a plannet? If the orbit comes as close as Neptune would that perturb the outer plannet's orbit('s) How can we know how big it is without knowing it's albido Am I just jabbering ontoo much? |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Peace Date: 01 Aug 05 - 07:07 PM Planet 10 has been suspected for decades. But hell, some folks are still arguing as to whether Pluto is rightfully a planet. GUEST, you have opened a can of worms. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,Cluin Date: 01 Aug 05 - 07:19 PM I wasn't plannin' on a new planet When I got up this morning Seems there's more new shit to deal with ev'ry day So just hold yer horses, dammit! Give me a little warning Let me at least adjust my footing before you yank the rug away |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Mrrzy Date: 01 Aug 05 - 07:50 PM I don't believe it. According to Wikipedia the Persephone idea is a Star Trek reference. Yikes! |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Peace Date: 01 Aug 05 - 08:01 PM She ain't big enough to be a planet, IMO. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Kaleea Date: 01 Aug 05 - 08:18 PM Listen, if'n yore goin' t' use their name, git th' spellin' rite! I happun tew know thet thar familee. They'unz spell ther name, B-o-b-b, wif, uh, lemme count--3 B's! So's yew kin git it rite now! Jim Bobb, Jim Jo Bobb, Bubba Bobb, etc. Oh, yeah, 'n jist how duz thet thar new fangled planet affekt m' horriblescope? Geez, I jist had m' chart dun, too! |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 01 Aug 05 - 08:38 PM Might make a real Horroscope of it... |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Amos Date: 01 Aug 05 - 10:39 PM Horoscope, tovarich! :) A |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Bill D Date: 01 Aug 05 - 11:10 PM you need horroscopes to read the plannets |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,Paranoid Android Date: 02 Aug 05 - 07:56 AM I go totally with "RUPERT" to honour Douglas Adams. .... Massive redundencies in the Astrological professions !!!!! |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: RangerSteve Date: 02 Aug 05 - 03:40 PM I don't understand the problem with Pluto being a planet. It's been a planet for so long, why not just let it remain one? It's not like impersonating a police officer, where Pluto is getting something it doesen't deserve by pretending to be a planet. It's a planet and that's that. Jim Bob's moon, should there prove to be one, should be given a dog-type name, like Ole Yeller, or something. Steve |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: MMario Date: 02 Aug 05 - 03:52 PM I remember seeing Persophone used as a tenth planet name well prior to Star Trek - but then again I am a compulsive Science fiction Reader. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Peace Date: 02 Aug 05 - 08:41 PM Asimov used it I think. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Cluin Date: 02 Aug 05 - 09:29 PM If you're going to follow that line of thinking, you should use the Roman equivalent of the name, Proserpina. All the other planets use the Roman names. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 03 Aug 05 - 11:41 AM Splottman gave us: My Very Easy Mnemonic Shows Us Nine Planets (Plusone) but someone complained that the "ate" part wasn't there. I propose inserting "artfully" after Mnemonic. Thus: My Very Easy Mnemonic artfully Shows Us Nine Planets (Plusone) Now if they stick with "Xena" I'm not sure what we do. Dave Oesterreich |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,noddy Date: 03 Aug 05 - 11:49 AM Buy one get one free. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: MMario Date: 03 Aug 05 - 11:55 AM so - is this object BIGGER or NOT bigger then Pluto? I have seen qoutes from the same person saying both. Anyone know which is correct? |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: mooman Date: 03 Aug 05 - 12:08 PM Dave and Splott, What happened to Jupiter? Has it gone? Peace moo |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,Alien Being Date: 03 Aug 05 - 12:28 PM Actually, the name of our planet is Phred. And please, no jokes! The Great Flungdinger who Created the Universe really has a lousy sense of humor, putting us this far away from the sun. We're freezin' our butts off out here!! |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: MudGuard Date: 03 Aug 05 - 12:37 PM In German, Mein Vater Erklärt Mir Jeden Sonntag Unsere Neun Planeten is used to teach the order of planets (it means "My father explains the nine planets to me each Sunday") |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: beardedbruce Date: 03 Aug 05 - 02:44 PM The next planet to be discovered was to be named Persephone... At least it was back in the mid-late 60's. The IAU has the final call. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Murray MacLeod Date: 03 Aug 05 - 06:12 PM It would be ridiculous to call it Persephone. First of all, it would be mispronounced by practically everybody on this planet. Secondly, it would give two successive "P's" in the mnemonic. Not good. I am in favour of naming it something beginning with a vowel. I like the sound of "Oregano". |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: beardedbruce Date: 03 Aug 05 - 06:23 PM There are rules regarding the naming of planets, planetary features, etc. http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/ |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Peace Date: 03 Aug 05 - 06:23 PM It would be easy for kids to remember. PP. Yeah. Why not something like Percivil? |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: beardedbruce Date: 03 Aug 05 - 06:37 PM Percivil was a Roman God? |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Cluin Date: 03 Aug 05 - 11:32 PM BB, that site contains a mistake. Pluto is the Roman name for the god of the underworld, not the Greek god, which is Hades. Once again, Proserpina is the Roman equivalent of his sometime consort. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: beardedbruce Date: 04 Aug 05 - 02:32 PM planets- Roman gods- Mercury Venus Mars Jupiter Saturn Uranus Neptune Pluto.... |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: MMario Date: 04 Aug 05 - 02:38 PM lesse if I can remember - it's been many m,any years... Mercury Hermes Venus Aphrodite Mars Ares Jupiter Jove Saturn ?? Cronos? (yup - looked it up) Uranus tilt,tilt, tilt! Uranus is Greek - roman equivilant was Caelus Neptune Posiedon Pluto Hades |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: beardedbruce Date: 04 Aug 05 - 03:36 PM OK, we need to go after those 19th century astromomers who violated the IAU rules... |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: MMario Date: 04 Aug 05 - 03:38 PM Well - it does make sense for Uranus to be greek - or maybe not. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,Cluin Date: 05 Aug 05 - 12:43 AM Uranus had the same name in both the Greek and Roman myths. Maybe the Romans thought it was too funny to change. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,The Council of Krith Date: 05 Aug 05 - 01:13 PM We Krithians just recently discovered a new planet. Yours. What came as a real surprise to us was that your planet has intelligent biological life. Well...semi-intelligent biological life, at least. This came as a big surprise, because our learned people have always maintained that Krith is the only place in the Universe that has such intelligent life. We poo-pooed all those ridiculous stories about interplanetary visitors, UFO's, crop circles, and all that kind of thing. Most UFO reports, after all, emanate from either hoaxers or foolish people who are mistaking the planet Nemral for a spaceship! Or in some cases, it's probably swamp gas or a hallucination of some kind, under the influence of drugs or overactive imaginations. But we digress... Our scientists have always been willing to entertain the possibility that simple forms of microscopic life might be found somewhere in space, but the possibility of another highly developed biosphere and civilization on some other world seemed very, very remote. Krith has ample supplies of water, oxygen, benzene, sappo, and all the other substances needed to support life. In the case of your planet, there was little benzene and no sappo. Accordingly, it was thought that Earth, as you call it, could never support life as we know it. Well, imagine our surprise this week when our probes determined beyond any shadow of doubt that your planet Earth is positively infested with biological life, in bewildering variety AND has a developed civilization capable of interplanetary travel!!! We have now monitored your TV programming and find it quite puzzling. Are you all completely insane? It seems that you may be, if your television programs are indeed an accurate depiction of your daily life. We on Krith are willing to help, but with caution. You appear to be dangerously insane, so we intend to remain at arm's length, as it were, for awhile until we can decide what will work and what won't in terms of cultural exchange, trade, and all that sort of thing. At any rate, the undeniable proof we now have of complex life on another world, despite the general absence of benzene and sappo, has shaken our scientific community to its core. We have also confirmed that you have orbited spacecraft and have sent some beyond your world. This suggests that at least some Krithian UFO stories may be correct. The Amazing Skandy, Krith's most famous professional skeptic, has experienced a nervous breakdown as a result of these revelations about the new planet, Earth, and is now under heavy medication. It appears that his skepticism has been confounded for all time. - The Council |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: John Hardly Date: 05 Aug 05 - 01:25 PM There have always been more and extra planets. They hide behind the bigger ones and peek around the edges of them only when telescopes from trailer parks are aimed their way. That's why ET's always abduct folks that live in trailer parks. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,The Council of Krith Date: 05 Aug 05 - 01:29 PM That is interesting, John Hardly. On Krith it is illegal to abduct anyone, so we don't have those kind of problems, nor do we have "trailer parks". Can you describe your trailer parks for us? Are they a kind of building or a large vehicle? Do you have a TV show about them that we can tune into? Also, please explain what is an "E.T."? - The Council |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: John Hardly Date: 05 Aug 05 - 01:46 PM I would assume that and "ET" is to Earthlings as an "EK" would be to you. As to trailer parks... trailer parks are the center of the universe for: Maury Povich and Jerry Springer watchers Howard Stern listeners Tornados Tall hair Prison tattoos UFO 's'ficianado's (see Gary Burbank) Monster trucks Gravy-on-everything cuisine |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,The Council of Krith Date: 05 Aug 05 - 01:56 PM Aha! "EK's". Yes, we have had many stories about EK's, all of which were dismissed as complete claptrap by the scientific community and the Amazing Skandy. Now that we have discovered advanced life on Earth, we are a bit more open to the concept of EK's. We are a bit relieved that your spacecraft appear to be somewhat primitive at this point in time, as we would not want to have to deal with a large influx of insane Earthlings for the time being. We are preparing holding tanks in case you do arrive...and Nilch Blasters. Nilch Blasters turn all your skeletal structure into jelly, thus rendering you unviable without major injections of sappo. You have us completely befuddled on the trailer park matter, but we will continue to investigate it. As an Earthling, John Hardly, would you describe yourself as: 1. intelligent life 2. semi-sentient life 3. mobile but barely self-aware life 4. semi-conscious life 5. life possessing a measure of free will 6. self-activating unit 7. able to conform with programmed routines, but incapable of independent thought 8. or none of the above ??? - The Council |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: John Hardly Date: 05 Aug 05 - 02:01 PM "...Now that we have discovered advanced life on Earth..." Really?!! Where?!! Okay, so "advanced" isn't exactly the same as "intelligent". "Advanced" is past tense however, and I could hardly agree more. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,The Council of Krith Date: 05 Aug 05 - 02:10 PM Your modesty and self-deprecating humor are refreshing, John Hardly. We on Krith appreciate such wit. You will have to pardon us now, as we must temporarily suspend this connection for a recess. We will return later. - The Council |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: MMario Date: 05 Aug 05 - 02:18 PM I say introduce the krith to the ralphs. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,Cluin Date: 05 Aug 05 - 09:25 PM Is there oil on Krith? Because we have some people here who might like to help you out with how you run things there... for your own good, mind. We'd be glad to export them to you. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,The Council of Krith Date: 06 Aug 05 - 12:08 AM We have small amounts of that useless stuff, oil. No one cares much about that. It seems to weigh heavy on the minds of Earthlings, though, and we find that strange. Why are you burning it? That makes for bad air, doesn't it? Of course, you have no sappo, so that means you are already labouring under some considerable disadvantage. The people you mention...perhaps we could use them for entertainment here. We have a game where we release such beings in a large natural arena with Thoths roaming around. Thoths are huge predators that catch and eat social undesirables. It's quite a spectacle. Almost no one here qualifies anymore AS a social undesirable, so it would be good if we got some outside visitors for that purpose. A hungry Thoth is a sad thing to see. Do your oil people qualify as social undesirables? |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Peace Date: 06 Aug 05 - 12:11 AM Do you have krithanthemums there? |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Cluin Date: 06 Aug 05 - 12:18 AM Do you celebrate Krithmath? |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,The Council of Krith Date: 06 Aug 05 - 12:23 AM We have no krithanthemums, but we do have krithmath. Examples: 1 + 1 = 2 3 x 7 = 21 It works pretty much the same as on Earth, as far as we know. One exception, however. We have different versions of zero. We have bigger and smaller zeros, to provide emotional emphasis to our calculations. Zero comes in many sizes on Krith. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Peace Date: 06 Aug 05 - 12:28 AM They come in many sizes on Earth, too. There is one who is president of a powerful country. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Cluin Date: 06 Aug 05 - 12:32 AM To provide promotional emphasis to his machinations. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Amos Date: 06 Aug 05 - 01:23 AM From Physics News Update, an e-zibne: POSSIBLE NEW PLANETS in our solar system have been spotted recently. Reservations about claiming new planets arises not from anything to do with the observations, but with semantics; there is no universally accepted definition for planet. Even Pluto is not a planet according to some scientists. The two newest planet candidates are the latest residents to be discerned in the Kuiper Belt, the zone of debris material beyond the orbit of Neptune. Two earlier specimens go by the name of Sedna (www.aip.org/pnu/2004/split/677-1.html) and Quaoar (www.aip.org/pnu/2002/split/608-3.html). One of the new objects, discovered by astronomers at the Sierra Nevada Observatory in Spain, is called EL61, with an orbital radius of about 51 AU (1 AU, or astronomical unit, is equal to the Earth-sun distance) and a size about 2/3 that of Pluto (which itself orbits at a distance of about 32 AU). The other object is called UB313 and was spotted by astronomers at the Palomar observatory in California and the Gemini telescope in Hawaii. It orbits at a distance of 97 AU and has an estimated size larger than Pluto). *********** A |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: John Hardly Date: 06 Aug 05 - 09:39 AM Our Zorro only comes in one size. But he rides a horse. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,Cluin Date: 06 Aug 05 - 12:43 PM The horse comes in one size too. About a cup. I saw a video once. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,The Council of Krith Date: 07 Aug 05 - 10:16 PM You have zorros on Earth? That is exciting! We would be willing to trade for zorros, as we find them very useful. Ours come in many sizes. It is most surprising that yours come in only one, but it really doesn't matter all that much. - The Council |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: John O'L Date: 07 Aug 05 - 11:47 PM Zorros, Ciscos, Hoppalongs, Paladins, Yodellers, Oakleys, Cartwrights, Mavericks, even Rinties, you name it, Krithdudes, take y' pick. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST,The Council of Krith Date: 08 Aug 05 - 10:50 AM Better and better. We are beginning to think that Earth is worth visiting, despite the face that you are under the rule of violent, delusive psychopaths with weapons of mass destruction. We would most certainly be interested in acquiring some zorros. Also some Hoppalongs, Paladins, Yodellers, and Mavericks. All of these are useful on Krith. How do you suppose we can make an appearance over Washington without provoking a violent military response from whoever is in charge? We would like to set down right beside the big white building with the dome...or not too far from the giant phallus or whatever it is. The one that points straight up. There is a good landing area there for our ships, which are about the size of one of your bigger ocean liners. Can we talk? - The Council |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: MMario Date: 08 Aug 05 - 11:01 AM Though our Zorro comes in only one size it has been known to appear in many different colours. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Aug 05 - 12:18 PM No use "beating around the Bush", Krithians... I say, go for the landings in Washington! But come well armed and prepared for anything. |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: John Hardly Date: 08 Aug 05 - 12:26 PM Don't land in Washington. The center of Earth's culture is in Nashville, Tennessee. Not coincidentally, Nashville is also very near the center of most trailer parks, and Krithians would be most welcome. If Krithians can wear cowboy hats they'd fit right in. If you can't wear cowboy hats, a one-size-fits-all seed cap will do. Do Krithians do snuff? |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: John Hardly Date: 08 Aug 05 - 01:24 PM "...which are about the size of one of your bigger ocean liners" What? You mean you don't boat around the universe on a mahogany Krith-Kraft? |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST Date: 08 Aug 05 - 02:25 PM Millatary aggresion is no problem! We can get David Blane to do majic show to counjor you up about 100 feet abov London Bridge. We assume that female nudity in your presence is not a problem? Can we have the T.V. rights? |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Aug 05 - 03:50 PM Female nudity is almost never a problem... |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: GUEST Date: 09 Aug 05 - 06:34 AM Getting them nude sometimes is though |
Subject: RE: BS: New Planet? From: Cluin Date: 09 Aug 05 - 12:24 PM "Female nudity is almost never a problem... " `Cept when their frying bacon. That's true for the guys too. The lessons life teaches... |