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BS: Hate crime on increase

GUEST,Peg 16 Aug 06 - 08:08 AM
Bobert 16 Aug 06 - 08:42 AM
John MacKenzie 16 Aug 06 - 08:53 AM
Ebbie 16 Aug 06 - 01:57 PM
GUEST 16 Aug 06 - 02:03 PM
GUEST 16 Aug 06 - 02:16 PM
GUEST 16 Aug 06 - 02:23 PM
DougR 16 Aug 06 - 02:50 PM
John MacKenzie 16 Aug 06 - 02:50 PM
GUEST 16 Aug 06 - 02:56 PM
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GUEST,Gbar 16 Aug 06 - 04:47 PM
Peace 16 Aug 06 - 04:50 PM
Peace 16 Aug 06 - 05:01 PM
GUEST,Davetnova 16 Aug 06 - 05:06 PM
dianavan 16 Aug 06 - 06:13 PM
Dave the Gnome 16 Aug 06 - 06:22 PM
Peace 16 Aug 06 - 06:29 PM
Alba 16 Aug 06 - 06:35 PM
Little Hawk 16 Aug 06 - 06:39 PM
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Subject: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: GUEST,Peg
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 08:08 AM

New figures released today say that all kinds of hate crime in Britain are on the increase. Some are up by 40%. Where are we going wrong ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 08:42 AM

Well, when the Bush/Blair war machine pronounced that "you're either with us or against us" it set the stage for intolerance... And in framing conflict resolution so narrowly I don't see much difference between the supposed "good guys" and the Taliban...


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 08:53 AM

As more people of different cultures arrive in a country to work and/or reside, then the more the indigenous peoples feel threatened. Therefore the resentment that arises when someone feels threatened grows, and hate crimes happen as a consequence of this feeling of being threatened by something not properly understood.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 01:57 PM

I was at a meeting last night where one of the participants recounted a television show that had given her food for thought.

It is a show called '30 Days', I understand, and the show that had struck her so had two parts. The first segment detailed the experience of an American who was out of work after his job was outsourced to India.

The show producers (whoever that may be) sent him to India to live with an Indian family for 30 days. The daughter of the family had gotten a job like the one the American had lost- and it was feeding 16 people.

In that month not only did the American learn to love the family but he also gained an appreciation for what outsourcing is doing for the world.

We are in such a period of transition... I grew up in a vanilla community, except for the occasional American Indian, who was invariably given a hard time. Today there is a great intermixing of races, nationalities and cultures. I suspect that the 'white' people are beginning to realize that they are seriously outnumbered and it scares them. And frightened people are scary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 02:03 PM

I kind of thought that muslims planning to blow up 10 plane loads of innocent non-muslims was a hate crime. Payback's a bitch.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 02:16 PM

Still no proof or charges Guest Tony Blair, go back and enjoy your holiday in America. Rest assured the gullible British public bought your story from John Reid.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 02:23 PM

Bobert, why don't you go live with the Taliban and find out the difference? Yeah, we all know why cause you would get killed, big difference really.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: DougR
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 02:50 PM

Right, Bobert, I was constipated this morning and it's George W. Bush and Tony Blair's fault.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 02:50 PM

Guest 2:03 you are wrong, if the planes were filled with Moslems they would still blow them up. Their crimes are anti establishment, not anti infidels!
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 02:56 PM

Enough hate coming out here against Moselems. Seems John Reid did a good job on you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 03:19 PM

Those who breed hatred get it back in return. When Muslims threaten people how do you expect those who are threatened to act?


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: GUEST,Gbar
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 04:47 PM

How? Oh, I expect them to take it out on some other unfortunate person who is totally innocent. That's what usually happens, isn't it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 04:50 PM

"Right, Bobert, I was constipated this morning and it's George W. Bush and Tony Blair's fault."

I have told ya four or five times, Doug: DON'T LEAD WITH YOUR CHIN.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 05:01 PM

"Hate crime on increase"

I'm surprised that people are surprised about this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: GUEST,Davetnova
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 05:06 PM

One reason may be the number of new hate crimes that have been created by both the British and Scottish governments. It is now a crime to dislike almost anything in Scotland. Look at the outrage caused when some Scottish people declined to support England in the recent world cup.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: dianavan
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 06:13 PM

DougR has finally admitted he's full of shit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 06:22 PM

I'm with davetnova on this - It's up simply because that is how things are categorised now. If a black man is mugged by a white kid - It's a hate crime. If a white woman is robbed by a Pakistani - It's a hate crime. Criminals should now this by now and stick to robbing people of their own race. Everyone knows there is no hate in just plain robbery...

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 06:29 PM

By Israel News Agency Staff

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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: Alba
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 06:35 PM

In my opinion we are being taught ignorance, intolerance and racial profiling. Some are believing the crap the Media feeds us about others and their religious views and values. We are allowing segregation to prosper and we are funding and fighting Wars on false principals.
We (as in our Countries) are continually disrespecting others beliefs, dismissing them as wrong simply because they are not the major belief of one particular Country and taking sides and supplying the chosen with the means to kill and we are attacking other Countries in the name of spreading Democracy with no plan as to how to make that bloom causing Civil War to ignite.
Some politicians and Governments are even doing these acts by design, to gain Political power.
Governments are fuelling distrust and fear among the Citizens and when you take all this and add the element of the ever present fractions of twisted violent Bigots looking for any excuse to hurt or kill anyone who's skin colour or religion differs from their own.. then you have a lose, lose situation.
Hate begets Hate.
We have distorted the aims of rebels fighters and insurgents fighting against the might of prosperous Nations by simply labeling them ALL Terrorists.
We have waged a campaign of misinformation regarding Islam and the followers of this Faith and some have done this under the banner of Christianity while breaking a good portion of the Commandments that are the foundation of their belief system.
Saddest part of all is a vast majority of people are sitting back allowing this to happen, watching it nightly unfolding before their TV eyes, but then there will always be armchair soldiers and armchair politicians who wouldn't get up off the arses to travel to another Country or speak up and really do something. Talk is cheap. Principals it would seem can be bought for a Mortgage, a 401K and a nice Car these days.
Just as long as some have the supposed trappings of prosperity and pseudo democracy then..what's the problem.
These same people go to Church I expect and nod in agreement when they hear Love thy Neighbor. Some go off to work and even say hello to the Person of Colour who sells them their Daily Newspaper at the corner shop everyday but they cross the street at night if a man approachs them who has a different skin colour to their own. They would tell you though they aren't racist, they even have Friends who are Black, Brown, Blue, Pink ect ect.

Hate crimes are up way way more than 40%. Hate is taking over and has been for quite some time now.
The real shock would come if we knew the actual figures on Hate Crimes but unfortunately due to the fear of Reprisals a vast majority of Hate Crimes go unreported.

This topic breaks my heart.

Best to All
Jude

( Oh and I don't think England would have done any better in the World cup even with Scottish support..:)


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 06:39 PM

What Alba said...


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: robomatic
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 08:47 PM

Hate crimes against Jews are reported up especially in the areas with strong Hezbollah affinity (i.e. thousands of people protesting Israel in Lebanon but not Hezbollah rockets from Lebanon). Not to mention the Muslim man who shot six women in a Jewish agency in Seattle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Hate crime on increase
From: Old Guy
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 12:35 AM

When the Bobert/WAPO hate machine gets cranked up, free thinkers better beware or you will be equated to the Taliban and called a terrorist.

Yeah, my ice cream cone melted and it was GWB's global warming that did it.


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