Keith: should Bush and Blair have been entitled to expect no reaction at all within the UK against their reckless, ill-judged and illegal invasion of Iraq? Or is it that you think the resulting catastrophe, in which innocent civilians have died in many scores of thousands, should be met with peaceful protest and petitions? Stu made a good point about this, backup the thread, to which I would add that it is not only muslims who have been aggrieved by UK foreign policy.

I notice Alan did not respond when Alan asked him where he lived. Wherever he lives, DtG, I think you might find his views have been tainted by EDL "thinking." Witness this:

"I don't want to be alarmist, but if such attack operations were to occur again in the UK we could see some group or collective individuals deliver a measured response." Oh no, Alan, not alarmist at all.

Walkabouts: I don't suppose your "nearest safe country" line has anything to do with you thinking there will always be a nearer safe country than the UK? Try selling your selfish philosophy in Jordan (where my partner is right now): a country of little more than a million people which has grown to something like eight million (estimates vary); the increase almost entirely made up of refugees from Palestine, Iraq and now Syria.

I've forgotten who garnered the stats from an Islamic source on terrorist fatalities in 2011, but at a glance they look suspect to me, if only because they imply that very few fatalities if any were down to Shia muslims.