CarolC - People do not change from their weaknesses - to continue to point that out is akin to replicating the problem. I understand you because I know you - and I have no doubts about how you view the world as genuine and from the heart.

Teribus's treatis above is about as clear as I can get to how I really feel about this whole thing.

Anyone that knows me should have a clear picture of who and what I have done with my life. And also knows that my support for this endeavor was not some warmongering as many have alluded to. It is with a firm belief that we did all we could for many years to attempt to peacefully rectify the mistakes of the past. When that became no longer viable we resorted to force.

Thank You Teribus - for articulating what I could not - In many sense I'm just PO'd that now that we have engaged in this course of action there are those who do not support the troops who are in harms way. Calling them names and referring to them as less than human is typical BS from the so called "peace movement." More like a bowel movement.

There are troops over there who are not firing on Iraqi civilians that ARE firing on them. Why not? Because they can see the Fedayeen behind the civilians threatening to kill them if they don't fire. I've been in that space in time and it takes great strength of character to hold your fire and not kill those who really don't mean you harm. The demonstrations here are not doing those folks any good either. And I resent that. It hurts my feelings to my very soul. I have a daughter over there fighting for what she believes in, and other family members that you all know nothing about doing very much the same thing.

I believe that you all think that we should have just waited for Hitler to die so the world would get better. Well sometimes it takes force - and after nearly 40 years of advocating for other solutions than war - I am supportive of this one. Odd how this shift has suddenly made me one of "them" to you folks.

As far as the "Personal Attack" - plain and simple - screw you Lepus - you want to do something personal send a care package to a troop - visit a VA hospital and vent your inane comments on someone who has really been there. I'm sure they will appreciate it about as much as I have. And Greg - you are about the most pathetic little individual I have had occasion to interface with. You are a whining no nothing that contributes little to the world. So bite me - put your little blicky in place and you will have the last word. You may now have the last word. From this point on you do not exist - post anything anywhere and I'll not respond to it. As a friend of mine used to say - I've taken some whiteout and removed you from my life.

Steve