Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Helen Date: 26 Jan 24 - 05:50 PM Good news, Lighter!! But I'm sure it's just small change for Trump. And I am also sure he will appeal the decision. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 26 Jan 24 - 05:37 PM If you haven't heard, an hour ago the jury hit Trump for $83 million. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 26 Jan 24 - 02:52 PM The Vegas odds link: https://www.vegasinsider.com/odds/us-presidential-election/ |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 26 Jan 24 - 02:16 PM The jury in the E. Jean Carroll case have been charged with deciding the penalty Trump must pay. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 26 Jan 24 - 01:17 PM Michael Tomasky in The New Republic. I think he's right on, at least where I live: "Support for Democrats has shriveled in rural America to near nonexistence, such that it is now next to impossible to imagine Democrats being elected to public office at nearly any level in about two-thirds of the country.... Right-wing media took over in these places and convinced people who live in them that liberals are all God-hating superwoke snowflakes who are nevertheless also capable of destroying civilization.... If someone had formed a liberal Sinclair [a popular right-wing network] 20 years ago to gain reach into rural and small-town America, that story would be very different today." Las Vegas odds-makers now pick Trump to win November: More on MAGA: https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-trumps-followers-still-love-103005015.html The godfather of all this, if there was only one, was radio commentator Rush Limbaugh, who started the radical-populist ball rolling around 1990 and was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by DJT thirty years later. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Dave the Gnome Date: 26 Jan 24 - 11:53 AM But none of this matters because he cannot possibly be re-elected. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 25 Jan 24 - 04:56 PM As for real issues, they have to be real to be real. Belief on the other hand trumps reason and fact. Its how religion works too. For the most part your list is a collection of post-hypnotic suggestions that only serve Trump and his cronies. As for his MAGA cronies, Trump is turning on many of them with extreme passion. Any dissent and he responds with threats and vows to blacklist the families, donors and friends of the RHINOS. This vindictive paranoid behavior is typical of Hitler, Stalin, and other dictators who go so far as to kill their own 'fiends', I mean friends. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 25 Jan 24 - 04:24 PM Donuel, those are not the things my neighbors want either. Except for "re-elected." What they want is Trump. Many "dislike him personally," but "he did a lot of good things for this country," and they will vote for him enthusiastically in November. Many don't "want" so much as "fear." What they fear, in no particular order, includes: Government seizure of firearms. The government sending jobs to China and Mexico Illegal immigrants stealing jobs, smuggling drugs, killing Americans, voting Democrat, and getting free health care and welfare benefits while they slowly become the majority in what's left of the country. Unelected "activist" judges who twist the law because they were appointed by Clinton, Obama, or Biden. "Democrat wars" and support for Ukraine, which has nothing to do with us. Biden and his "crime family" "selling us out" to China for millions in bribes. Universities that teach atheism, lies, and Marxism. The removal of statues of American heroes and the renaming of military bases in the South named for Confederate officers, who were just as patriotic as Union officers. Kamala Harris becoming President. Hunter Biden getting away with crime because he's a Biden. Powerful elites who despise ordinary Americans. Blue states with sanctuary cities and "blue juries." Persecution of Christians. The mainstream media that lie about conservatives and won't report the truth. Federal meddling in our lives. Regulatory agencies. Time- and money-wasting sensitivity training. Islamic terrorists coming from Mexico. Muslims. Immigrant kids who speak "strange languages" that "nobody knows" packing our schools and making teaching impossible. Government and private censorship of MAGA speech. Legalized abortion. George Soros. Laws and lawsuits that hamstring police. The "Deep State." The "administrative state." School shootings that Democrats won't prevent by arming teachers. Government health care that tells people what doctor they can see and what treatment they can get, and that takes taxpayer cash to treat and give free, overpriced drugs to alcoholics, dope addicts, and other freeloaders. Dangerous vaccines that don't work anyway. Doctors who shill for the crooked vaccine manufacturers. A fascistic government "ordering" people to wear useless, harmful masks in a pandemic. Climate-change "loons" who want to destroy business and industry and make everyone buy electric stoves and vehicles they don't want and can't afford. A "weaponized" Justice Department "coming after" Americans for speaking out against the Biden "regime." The highest crime rates in American history. The highest taxes in American history. The worst inflation in American history. The collapsing American economy. The "weak," "bumbling," "senile" "tyrant" "Crooked Joe" and his shadowy "handlers" who tell him what to do. The Socialist "Squad." Globalists. Transsexuals. Gay marriage and the destruction of the family. Influential fools who teach that America is a Democrat democracy when it's "really" a Republican republic. LGBTQ teachers "grooming" our kids. Kids being taught they can choose their own gender. Teachers telling white kids they and their families are racists responsible for slavery. Teachers telling black kids they'll always be victims because America is fundamentally racist. The "woke mob." "Cancel culture." The "weakness" and "wokeness" of our military. Foreign countries "laughing at us" for our stupidity and weakness. Membership in NATO, which costs us billions and will get us into war. Biden's high gas prices. Non-MAGA politicians, who are mostly crooked and un-American. Elections carefully rigged against conservatives. Hollywood pushing immorality on our kids. The Big Lie that Biden won fair and square. Judges who dismiss the proof that Biden cheated. A rogue FBI and CIA spying on, framing, and imprisoning American patriots. Liberal news that smears Trump by taking remarks "out of context" and/or not acknowledging he was "just being sarcastic." Critical race theory. BLM mobs burning cities like Portland while liberal mayors look the other way. The replacement of truthful American history with Marxist Liberal lies and distortions. The railroading by corrupt DAs and judges, under Biden's orders, of America's "true leader," Donald Trump. Quite a list. Quite a collective nightmare. Everything in quotes is an actual quote. I have heard or read of every one of these fears from actual Trump supporters. For MAGA voters these are, in varying degrees, the "real issues." |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Helen Date: 25 Jan 24 - 03:50 PM Well said, MaJoC. I was thinking of a similar quote, "hope for the best but prepare for the worst". |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 25 Jan 24 - 03:02 PM > The view from the UK is so pessimistic. It reminds us right-pondians too much of some more-painful-than-somewhat episodes of our own recent history, which we neglected to do enough about till it was far too late. It doesn't help that our papers thrive on using scary headlines to increase their sales. > And wrong. I really, really hope so. All we can do from this distance is worst-case planning for potential fallout .... and that last word was chosen carefully: "Si vis pacem, para bellum", an' all that. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 25 Jan 24 - 12:29 PM Sorry, I misspelled Jon Stewart. John Stewart was born in Virginia to Baptists of mixed European and African descent in 1786. Jon Stewart is born and bred in NYC. Successfully mocking dictators is an age-old valuable strategy in overcoming such villains. Jon does this very well. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 25 Jan 24 - 12:13 PM 91 INDICTMENTS are but a small sliver of the subject of Trumpian cult grievance-chaos politics and racist fascism. To assume a simple overview of these issues are irrelevant and should be expunged is myopic in my opinion, especially after it is decreed that no new Trump threads are allowed. To nearly quote Ben Franklin, for now, we have a Republic if we can keep it. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Jan 24 - 12:08 PM Bad news for Trump - a huge thorn in his side is returning to The Daily Show on the Comedy Central network for the rest of the campaign year. As mentioned above, Jon Stewart to return to ‘The Daily Show’ as a host and executive producer “In our age of staggering hypocrisy and performative politics,” McCarthy added, “Jon is the perfect person to puncture the empty rhetoric and provide much-needed clarity with his brilliant wit.” "Needle" is putting it mildly. Stewart's jabs connect when he targets Trump, and Trump hates it. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Dave the Gnome Date: 25 Jan 24 - 11:39 AM I am aghast at Trumpian politics and glad that it is guaranteed that he will not be elected. Come November I shall be the amongst the first to congratulate those who made that promise:-) |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Jan 24 - 11:37 AM Much of the recent conflicting opinion squabble has been deleted; no one needs to resume the caustic tone that was featured a while back. This thread is mainly about Trump's trials and his campaign. Let's keep it that way. Today the E. Jean Carroll trial resumes, with Carroll again set to testify. From the CNN update link this morning: Lawyers for E. Jean Carroll have rested her case against Donald Trump in the civil trial to determine how much in damages, if any, he will have to pay the former magazine columnist for his 2019 defamatory statements following her sex assault allegations. Meanwhile, Trump's attorney in the trail, Alina Habba, begged off of court this week because she felt sick, resulting in a trial postponement, only to turn up at a New Hampshire political event. A reporter who busted her for the stunt got kicked out of the NH event. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 25 Jan 24 - 06:32 AM Trump Wants: The economy to crash (in his own words) The border to remain open during Biden's term Abortion ban to be nationwide to be reelected Ukraine to be defeated Affordable Healthcare banned These things are not what my neighbors want. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 25 Jan 24 - 05:21 AM DAVOS is famous for its wrong predictions. I agree with Stilly that Europe is wrong overall about another Trump Presidency. Also, election interference techniques are complicated with AI voice fraud techniques already. An unlikely Trump opponent is returning. JOHN STEWART ! |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Helen Date: 24 Jan 24 - 11:05 PM From my home in Oz, and with no real stake in the outcome except in relation to world politics, I'm going with Joe Biden's statement: let the voters decide. I'm also inclined to think that there are possibly enough voters who are keeping their cards close to their chests with regards to Trump, and probably waiting to see the outcomes of the various legal trials he will have to get through. I think that those voters are more likely to judge him according to the outcomes of his legal battles and I really think there could be enough right-thinking people who would reject him as a president if he loses some or all of those battles. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Jan 24 - 10:34 PM We've heard enough of the view from the UK if that's all you have to offer, it doesn't need to be repeated (which is about as annoying as anything can be in this day and age). At a more granular local level here we're all working on it. Democrats in various local areas where primaries are happening have been asking if they should support Haley to try to keep Trump out of the election, but Trump is the face of the brand and the malignancy that need to be defeated; if the GOP should end up with Haley and were she to be elected we'd have a Trump sycophant who would pardon him of any federal crimes and let him go on his merry way. Best to defeat Trump himself and be done with it. The civil trial by E. Jean Carroll about defamation should resume tomorrow after a COVID scare earlier in the week. It is about ready to wrap up. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Helen Date: 24 Jan 24 - 08:53 PM The Republican primary results simply tell what Republican voters think of the Republican candidates. The democratic vote between the final candidates in November will show what voters want. It ain't over until the obese orange one whinges in November. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 24 Jan 24 - 07:54 PM A Trump voter in NH explained why he'd still support Trump in November even if he's convicted of felonies. Can you guess the answer? "Because all the charges are phony and any conviction would eventually be overturned by the Supreme Court." |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Dave the Gnome Date: 24 Jan 24 - 06:03 PM Once again I hope that in November you will say "I told you so". But it's not just the view from the UK. A lot of the world press is fearing the worst and I have relatives in the US who are making tentative arrangements to move in with us while they look for a house here next year! |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Jan 24 - 05:34 PM The view from the UK is so pessimistic. And wrong. And you don't listen to us, telling that Trump doesn't have a chance in hell of winning. He's pushing all of the boundaries he can, but in the end, cheaters won't prosper. Ignore the polls, and ignore what Trump himself says (but believe him when he tells you how he would behave). |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Dave the Gnome Date: 24 Jan 24 - 05:25 PM He is going to be your next president. I do hope I am wrong but I can't see any other outcome. I am sorry for you and fear for the rest of the world. :-( |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Jan 24 - 05:24 PM Mother Jones posted on Threads today that if they run headlines about Trump from now on they will appear like this: Florida Man Facing 91 Criminal Counts Wins New Hampshire Primary Donald Trump defeats Nikki Haley. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Helen Date: 24 Jan 24 - 05:18 PM An interesting analysis of Nikki Haley's possible chances and strategies and Trumps' (predictable) anger at not getting a higher result: Donald Trump's anger in New Hampshire followed a primary win that exposed some weakness |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 22 Jan 24 - 10:49 AM The Sanctimonious one has withdrawn, leaving Nikki Haley as the last woman standing, except she's a Trump toady who has said she will pardon the bastard if he is convicted, leaving him to roll around golf courses the rest of his life. He belongs in prison, and she can go work in some 9-5 office where she isn't causing any harm. My first Biden/Harris political purchase should arrive in the mail today. A t-shirt. I don't put bumper stickers on the car, I don't want it keyed, but I can pick and choose where to wear the shirt. :) |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 22 Jan 24 - 09:12 AM After one whole term of being lazy Like an old man he's half asleep Now it seems that he's half crazy but is mean as a lieing creep Trump is not a new sensation He's done pretty well I think But this half-ton imitation is circling down the sink He's wild again, beguiled again A simpering, whimpering child again Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered is he He's alot like villain John Wilkes Booth When he tweets he decrees what our eyes should see Bewitched, he's allergic to the truth Lost the vote, but so what of it He is old I agree He can laugh, and we love it Although the laugh's on me Pastors sing to him, folks bring to him Donations for lawyers that cling to him Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered is he He's a fool and don't I know it But a fool can have his charms He's confused and he really shows it Revenge will be his harm He's the same old sad sensation Lately I've not slept a wink Since this half-ton imitation Washed rights down the sink He's sinned a lot; I mean a lot He's like a repeat craven felon Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered is he The fringe loves him, but I CRINGE from him Some worship the red tie that clings to him Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered is he When he talks, he is seeking Hatred to get off his chest with his word salad speaking, he's at his very best Vexed again, perplexed again As God, he wants us obcessed again Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered is he Wise at last, my eyes at last Are cutting him down to size at last Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered no more Burned a lot, we've learned a lot And now he thinks he beat Barak, Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered no more For all we know he is dyspeptic Sanity is a real no go I hope the election's antiseptic I hope he's locked in Mar Lago Donald Trump, finis, your chance, finis Those ants that invaded our House, finis Bewitched, bothered, and bewildered no more |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Helen Date: 21 Jan 24 - 05:12 PM Ron DeSantis withdraws from Republican presidential race, endorses Trump "Ron DeSantis announced his withdrawal from the race on social media "He finished a distant second behind former president Donald Trump in last week's Iowa caucuses "Nikki Haley is now the last Republican in the contest with a shot of denying Mr Trump the nomination" The article also analyses DeSantis' campaign issues and failures. Donuel said, "OK I understand that Christians chose a magic Jew as their Messiah but why did they choose a narcissistic atheist for their second coming?" but I think you are missing the obvious. In my opinion, he's not the Second Coming, he is the Anti-Christ. It fits with his narcissistic personality and his power plays and his manipulation of facts into lies. And he didn't raise people from the dead, he sent a huge number to their deaths by COVID. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 21 Jan 24 - 03:43 PM OK I understand that Christians chose a magic Jew as their Messiah but why did they choose a narcissistic atheist for their second coming? |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 21 Jan 24 - 08:32 AM A good cognitive test would be to have Nikki, Joe, and Donald as contestants on Jeopardy. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 21 Jan 24 - 08:22 AM My opinion is that while Trump is exceedingly stupid he knows that a lie does not have to be good or believable but merely denounces someone else. The more he is castigated for his lies, the more grievance points he believes he has. It's the old bad press is good press by staying in the news. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 20 Jan 24 - 11:00 AM Apropos of cognitive functioning: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-aced-cognitive-test-incorrectly-051229367.html |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 Jan 24 - 10:42 AM From yesterday's Washington Post: A ‘whale’ of a tale: Trump continues to distort cognitive test he took The Montreal Cognitive Assessment, a test aimed at detecting dementia or cognitive decline, never included the combination of animals Trump identified this week I particularly like the quote Experts also note that the assessment is not an I.Q. or intelligence test, though Trump has often talked about it as if it was. The irony about the whole age debate is that Biden is a good weight, eats a healthy diet, and has all of his marbles. The stammer occasionally rears it's head to make some of his speech halting, but he's the one people worry about? They can't see past the mess of Trump's pancake makeup and hair gel. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 19 Jan 24 - 05:19 PM He can still recall five items in order...with hesitation. There is still suspense about whether The Donald is headed for the White House or the Big House. Better minds than mine believe the Supream Court will NOT take up the Colorado ballot case. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: keberoxu Date: 19 Jan 24 - 02:43 PM The latest report is that Trump made a speech and sounded more incoherent than usual. Kind of reminds me of "covfefe." Remember that one? |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Jan 24 - 02:24 PM In the State of Georgia cases against Trump and his allies, it seems DA Fani Willis, a single woman, was dating a separated man who is divorcing his wife. She hired him (at some point - before or after the relationship began?) and it seems his separated wife has decided to get even and is working with Trump attorneys to smear Willis. Not sure if this is a report or an opinion piece, but here are some details to sort through: Fani Willis Just Made a Critical Mistake, Legal Analyst Warns |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 19 Jan 24 - 01:46 PM The Supreme Court was supposed to be apolitical and just decide on the interpretation of the Constitution and settle lower court disputes. BUT things have changed along with the growth of corruption. IF the USA only relied on the popular vote, Democrats would have won the last 7 presidential elections and the Republicans only one. Republicans have relied on becoming loophole masters and legislating litigation to maximize Republican votes by minimizing Democrat votes via voter suppression. How would I try to make the system more fair for people who are not billionaires? I would nationalize money that is laundered in the USA and do a Robin Hood for the 'poor'. The biggest laundry of dirty money is in the USA. Russia launders its money in Cyprus. The king of laundered money is in the State of Deleware and a few northern western States via shell companies. The Panama Papers were the blueprint for this hidden money scheme from the records of a law firm that enabled the system. I'm sure I wouldn't last long after I removed the billionaire's stash. I might even pay off most of the national debt with the left over cash if I could elude hired assasines. This plan has its risks. Besides billionaires might then look to China to launder their cash. They already do with Chinese super lockdown warehouses for billionaire hard goods. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Jan 24 - 10:01 AM This is one reason why people are still talking about expanding the court (to dilute the Trump effect) and also putting as much pressure on Clarence Thomas to 1) resign in disgrace or at least 2) recuse himself because his wife was involved in the Jan. 6 stuff. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 19 Jan 24 - 08:58 AM Trump and his attorneys are using every strategem in the book to delay these trials. It seems quite unlikely to me that any but the current civil cases will be decided before the election. But it may not matter. Trump's followers are certain that all these cases are "election interference" and that any convictions will be overturned by the Supreme Court. As I've mentioned, such appeals can take several years. If Trump is re-elected, he will suspend all the investigations and trials. His unique claim - on no legal basis whatever - that he has and deserves "absolute immunity" may eventually erode some of his popularity. It's a long way to November. Right now, though, he's neck and neck with Biden - and more popular as a public figure. Makes you think. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Backwoodsman Date: 19 Jan 24 - 08:30 AM What Lighter calls ‘murky’, and Don calls ‘cut and dried’, I call ‘confused and confusing’. Although nothing to do with UK, it’s a fact that the election of a US President has a huge effect on us in the UK, and on the rest of the world. All the reporting I see here in the U.K. seems to suggest that none of these cases will come to fruition before the Election, that Trump will be the Republican candidate again, and he will subsequently become 47. I fear for the US and I fear for the world. Please, Dog, let me be wrong… |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 19 Jan 24 - 08:19 AM What you call murky I call cut and dried. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Lighter Date: 19 Jan 24 - 08:07 AM Trump hasn't been charged with "insurrection." But the 14th Amendment doesn't say who determines whether he did so engage. The states? Congress? The Supreme Court? It's all very murky. He was charged with inciting an insurrection in his second impeachment but was acquitted by the Senate. Impeachment is a political, not a judicial, procedure. He could still be charged criminally - and at the time of his acquittal, McConnell, Graham, McCarthy, and others insisted that he should be. What changed their minds and turned them back into ardent supporters is unclear. The current charges against Trump in the 1/6 case are: Conspiracy to defraud the government [with false electors] Conspiracy against the right to vote [by attempting with others to overturn the legitimate result of an election] Conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding [by exhorting the crowd (again with others) to march to the Capitol and "fight like hell"] Obstruction of an official proceeding [by doing nothing to call off the rioters once they were in the building] |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 19 Jan 24 - 07:48 AM My position has become conservative! I prefer an original Constitutional Government over a New Government with rampant political violence and dictatorial decree with a license to kill political opponents. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Dave the Gnome Date: 19 Jan 24 - 03:39 AM The Supreme Court could have a way out of their predicament. If they rule that the presidency is covered by the 14th amendment but Trump has not yet been found guilty of insurrection in a court of law, then the onus moves to the court trying him for his part in Jan 6. But what do I know!? |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Jan 24 - 05:16 PM Ivanka Trump Former Employee Ends Up in Father's Jury Pool "A woman says she worked for Ivanka Trump's company doing communications work in 2017/18 and also says it won't impact her ability to be fair to both sides," Crane-Newman posted to X, formerly Twitter. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Donuel Date: 17 Jan 24 - 04:25 PM Everyone knows extreme cold makes caucuses shrink. :^/ Jean Carroll is still getting death threats as Trump continues his misogynist denials. Entire police and FBI departments treat sexual abuse and rape cases as he said she said scenarios. It would help if only female detectives conducted investigations. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Jan 24 - 04:37 PM The numbers are meaningless. But media companies want eyeballs and advertisers and they go with the Trump nonsense because they get the ratings. They didn't learn their lesson in 2016, but so many people know what he is up to now that even though his supporters are noisy and brash and out there for the Iowa event, it really doesn't add up to anything. |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Dave the Gnome Date: 16 Jan 24 - 04:11 PM I genuinely hope you are right Stilly but, from here, it looks grim :-( |
Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Jan 24 - 03:51 PM The percentage of people who go out to participate in the Iowa caucuses is minute compared to the registered voters of the state. Let them think he won - but make sure everyone gets out to vote in November. Polls, caucuses, even primaries are barely useful to extrapolate from. Only the election itself matters. |
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