BS: The US lunatic right

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: GUEST,999
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 10:06 PM

Now ya know who the FEMA camps are for. Anyone who protests.

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: GUEST,josepp
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 10:06 PM

I don't read leftist shit, sorry. There just might be an agenda there. No more believable than the rightwing nutcases.

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: Songwronger
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 10:00 PM

The right wing nutcases in America just made it illegal to protest. Somehow they forced Obama to sign the bill, the bastards. Just like they made him sign the bill that gives the military the authority to detain and kill me. The bastards. Hate those right-wing pricks. They made Obama keep the prison open at Guantanamo, over his objections, and now they're forcing him to start wars in Syria and Uganda, the bastards. They're making him spend billions for the election too, the bastards, because the country NEEDS him to keep Washington honest.

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: Leadfingers
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 09:41 PM

From this side of the pond , its a bit scary ! Its bad enough here in UK where we DO have a decent percentage of the population who are Passport Holders and DO travel to other countries , even if its only
to Spain for Sun , Fish and Chips and Roast Beef .
But even here we have people who dont seem to be able to think for themselves - Look at the Blessed Maggie = Buy your Council house and
you HAVE to become Right Wing !!
What percentage of US Citizens now have passports ? and even worse , how many have never been outside their STATE ??
All I can say is God (IF he Exists) help you all

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 09:30 PM

The Repubs have attacked JFK, women, anyone with an education, etc, etc... As we speak they are trying to find a new group to piss off...

The are done in November and maybe forever...

Bob

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: GUEST,josepp
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 09:14 PM

What's interesting is that the Pub party is not sustainable in its current form. This single-issue/god-hates-liberals run party does not resonate with the average voter--even the ones who detest Obama. That's a huge problem. They may try to sneak Ron Paul in at the last moment and give him the nomination but that won't work even if they pull it off. The party itself has to change the way it thinks and does things--the individual candidates don't matter as they'll trumpet any party line to get the nomination, they don't care. But the current party line just isn't making it and has no relevance in the lives of the vast majority of Americans. The pub party is spending more than it's taking in and that is simply unsustainable. What I want to know is what is going to happen when it implodes which is inevitable.

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: KHNic
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 08:58 PM

Mitt Romney lost out to Mc Cain, last election.
Mc Cain lost out to Bush.
The Republicans are now voting for a man who is not as good as the man who is not as good as Bush.
Says it all.

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 08:47 PM

Mill lived in the ozone and Bentham died. It was a valiant attempt but foredoomed to failure.


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 08:41 PM

All thru history, people have used the process of "placing the dart, then drawing the bullseye where they want it" to defend positions.

Any being that can comprehend 'logic' can also ignore it by substituting rhetoric, peer pressure, vested interests, superstition and plain old *fear* to help them make decisions.

As Jeri says, they have to look for truth ... and then be willing to act on truths that they don't like.

What ever happened to "The greatest good for the greatest number"?

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 08:37 PM

Let's take a look at the Mississippi voters shall we? We need to remember that everyone who votes is not on the same page and as we sit around passing lofty gas back and forth there are other people, sort of, who are not all as enthused.

I tend to agree with James Carville. Lester Maddox once said that that what Georgia prisons really needed was better prisoners. Well, what the Republican party needs is better voters!   I mean take a look at the assholes involved in the circus car circular firing squad they have for candidates and then consider who in the fuck would vote for them!

What we need to remember though is just how much some of these people hate Barack Obama. Click here and then click videos at the top of the page. See the green house from March 9? Play that one....................


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 07:27 PM

The problem is (and I know this is oversimplification), they've elevated 'stupid' to a virtue --for voters, not necessarily candidates. They label the belief that all parents should be able to send their kids to college as 'elitist', they tell people there's something wrong with making health care affordable to everyone, that taxes are unnecessary and evil, they invoke people's fear of differences so Obama STILL might be a Muslim, STILL might not really have been born in the US, and if he was born in Hawaii, that's STILL not in the US--and the list of things is nearly endless--
and they have SO pandered to stupid people because they LIKE sheep, and stupid people raise more stupid people because education is, after all, elitist, that this is where we are now.

This is the grown-up generation of Jerry Springer-watching people who've jumped on whatever conspiracy theory fad is being reported by owned talking heads giving them the 'news', that people seldom think for themselves and actually question what they're being fed. So even the ones who might possibly be able to think have knee-jerk reactions and close ranks against the enemies of stupidity and falsehood.

It isn't that difficult to see through lies, but you have to look, and the people who do are not the ones who are likely to believe it in the first place.

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 07:02 PM

The "compromise candidate" from an unlikely source was how Margaret Thatcher's favourite TV series "Yes Minister" transmogrified into "Yes Prime Minister. It's worth a watch.

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: saulgoldie
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 06:57 PM

You know, I have a recurring thought. Yes, a thought. I know they are dangerous, but I can't help myself. I just think.

Anyway, my thought is...we *know* these people are fact-averse, logic-phobic, and rejecting of anything discovered by the scientific process. But somehow, somewhere we *have* to talk to them and help them see the error in their ways.

I am totally without clue as to how to do this. I mean, how do you lead someone through a fact-based logical sequence when they think that facts and logic are some sort of anti-Christ program? I don't even know what passes for logic in their paradigm. But until we crack the formula, we will have to accept this ninniness as part of the American political landscape.

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: gnu
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 06:25 PM

"and don't think anyone will again"

Wanna bet?

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 06:23 PM

I think they all been sipping the coolaide ... I mean there is a wave of stupid running around this country and not just from one party either to fill several oceans ... bizarre is all I can say .. never saw anything like it and don't think anyone will again

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: Bert
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 06:18 PM

Don't even think about another Bush, Jeri.

That's all America needs, another George III.

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 05:59 PM

I think they will vote at the Repub convention and not select a nominee, so they will vote a second time and not nominate anyone. Before the third vote, a new guy will show up and everybody will immediately jump on the bandwagon for this new Republican-du Jour and that's who will be nominated. I can't figure out if it's likely to be Palin or Jeb Bush or Rush or somebody else, but it's going to be someone who falls out of favor just as fast as all the previous momentarily popular republicans... but they'll be stuck with their choice.

Subject: RE: BS: The US lunatic right
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 05:47 PM

Yes.... we know.... this is by far the strangest election *I* have seen...and I remember back to Eisenhower/Stephenson, and voted for JFK in 1960.

Someday there will be doctoral theses written on how the far right-wingnuts got so much traction.

I have MY theories... namely that the Republicans proceed by pandering to several single-issue groups,(gun nuts, anti-abortionists, anti-tax zealots, ..and let's face it...racists) and this time some of those groups got semi-organized as the "Tea Party", which used the modern media to promote this "anything goes if we can beat Obama" movement. They felt 'empowered' by winning a bunch of seats in Congress and then......... when it became obvious that Obama was going to be VERY hard to beat, many of the half-way competent conservatives decided not to even try...leaving the primary selection to the strange assortment we now see.

   What remains to be seen is whether all these odd groups will 'hold their nose' and vote the "Anything but Obama" route. Most of us think not...and hope not...but we KNOW at least 40-45% would vote for Beelzebub if he promised to support their single-issue causes.

Subject: BS: The US lunatic right
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 04:46 PM

1.   http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/10/rick-santorum-wins-kansas-republican

2.   http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/10/america-war-on-sex-hots-up