Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Alice Date: 05 Dec 98 - 11:24 AM Rick. Unicorns, yes. And Merlin, the holy grail, and such. Could that be the difference between folk and filk? In folk, unicorns and wizards are an undesirable topic, in filk, almost necessary. I do like some of the older traditional folk lyrics about legends and mythological creatures. An example I do like is "Silent O Moyle", about the Children of Lir, and the allegory about the starving homeless during the Irish famine, 'Shortcut Through the Rosses'. But you'll find no unicorns there. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Big Mick Date: 05 Dec 98 - 10:09 AM Early twentieth century Irish American Pop. Ugghhh!!!! Drives me crazy when I get a request to do "Irish" songs like that. Mick |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: O'Boyle Date: 04 Dec 98 - 11:32 PM Any omg that mentions "Unicorns" Rick |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: alison Date: 04 Dec 98 - 08:36 AM Hi, The only good one was a few years ago now... the one from Dublin where they did Riverdance for the first time. Slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Steve Parkes Date: 04 Dec 98 - 07:38 AM Bert, which were the good ones? I must have missed those years. But then, I only go back as far as 'Looking high high high' and 'Sing little birdie'. (Actually, I was rather fond of Pearl Carr & Teddy Johnson!) Steve |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Steve Parkes Date: 04 Dec 98 - 07:37 AM Bert, which were the good ones? I must have missed those years. But then, I only go back as far as 'Sing little birdie'. (Actually, I was rather fond of Pearl Carr & Teddy Johnson!) Steve |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: McMusic Date: 03 Dec 98 - 05:55 PM Alice-- YES!!!!! Only a little more than when I hear Celtic pronounced "Seltic", rather than "Keltic." |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Doctor John Date: 03 Dec 98 - 03:59 PM Rock |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Bert Date: 03 Dec 98 - 11:24 AM Alice, Way back in The Fifties when it was really an achievement to transmit and receive television across the English Channel, The Television companies in Europe decided to hold an annual song contest. Each country would submit an entry and an international team of judges would pick the 'best' one. After the first few contests were won by catchy cutesy up-beat little numbers, all subsequent entrants have strived to 'out-catchy-cutesy' each other. A search for 'eurovision song contest' in Hotbot will turn up more than you ever wanted to know. To be fair there have been one or two good ones over the years but taken as a whole they are just too much to bear. Bert. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Alice Date: 03 Dec 98 - 09:29 AM Bert, tell us more.. 'Eurovision Song Contest'? Expound, please. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Bert Date: 03 Dec 98 - 08:16 AM I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Eurovision Song Contest. I know it's not really a 'topic', more of a 'style', but it's one that can be taken only in very small doses. Bert. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Barbara Date: 25 Nov 98 - 04:44 PM Me, Alice, me, and it bugs me to find all this stuff in there that is hardly Celtic, and now I can't find other genres by their location either (Hawaiian Slack key for example can be with Hawaii, South Seas, or Newage, gaaa). This too shall pass. And sometimes it gets folk interested enought to look further and find real Celtic music. Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Earl Date: 25 Nov 98 - 12:10 PM The best description I ever heard of newage is "White boys practicing their scales." Thank god the songs don't have lyrics. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Alice Date: 25 Nov 98 - 11:26 AM Songbob, I loved it... especially appreciate newage rhymes with s**age. Anyone else besides me get annoyed when you find Celtic music filed under newage in music stores? alice |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: McMusic Date: 24 Nov 98 - 09:55 PM Roger--wasn't looking, just commenting. Thanks anyway. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 24 Nov 98 - 09:03 PM Mc Music, As you linger longer on the Mudcat, you will come to believe that more likely than not, the song you seek is already in the DT. Were you really looking for "BALLAD OF THE GREEN BERETS"? As they say on-line "When you know, you know." Roger in Baltimore |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: McMusic Date: 24 Nov 98 - 08:53 PM Heard this one about twenty years ago-- "Whoever Turned You On, Forgot To Turn You Off". And while we're on the subject- Does anyone remember Barry Sadler's "Ballad Of The Green Berets"? I'm a Viet vet, but that song, with its over-dramatized, over-blown patriotism, gets on MY nerves! |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Old Timer Date: 24 Nov 98 - 05:45 PM Didn't Johnny Cash sing one about 20 years ago that said: "She flushed me from the bathroom of her heart"? OT |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Bert Date: 24 Nov 98 - 05:01 PM Songbob, I love it, I do be do be do. |
Subject: Lyr Add: I FEEL, I FEEL (Clayton/Kraemer/Sprung) From: Songbob Date: 24 Nov 98 - 04:46 PM Well, I guess whin(ge)ing (note the bilingual/bihemispheric spelling) sonoger-singwriter songs are my least favorite "topic," but what really gets me is ones with the typical new-age (rhymes with s....) topics of sensitive men, strong women, urban legends and lower taxes that aren't even crafted well. There was one local songstress with a song about the Baltimore-Washington Parkway that used to set my teeth on edge (she insisted on singing it) because it had this damnedly-poor meter to the chorus. Of course, some friends and I couldn't leave well-enough alone, giving rise to this: I Feel, I Feel I feel I should tell you how I feel, I feel it's important to you. I'd like to share my inner self; you must listen while I do. My ruminations solipsistic You might perceive as narcissistic, But I think they're mystic -- Don't you? Don't you? Don't you? -- Of course you do. I feel the pain of every bite, and I feel you should, too. I bear the stain of every slight -- I'll show them all to you. These deliberations so dramatic From my hidden-horrored mental attic I prefer to spoken social static -- Don't you? Don't you? Don't you? -- Of course you do. Oh, I have so much to say, I cannot think of a better way Than to offer you my song today, and tomorrow, too. I really feel you'll understand, it's all within a master plan, You can believe, I know you can, and feel the way I do ....Be do be do... I feel so in touch with my feelings at last; come walk a mile in my shoes. I'll show you the place where I keep my face, in a case with a trace of the blues. I bring these thoughts to you tonight, My intellect is my delight, I think I'm captivating, quite! Don't you? Don't you? Don't you? -- Of course you do. Oh, I have so much to say, I cannot think of a better way Than to offer you my song today, and tomorrow, too. I really feel you'll understand, we're all part of a mystic plan, So reach out for my grasping hand, and feel the way I do .... Be do be do... Since childhood days I knew I had the strongest tendency Toward tuning in the universe, and sensitivity -- These gifts I know are very rare, I think I've got so much to share -- And modesty beyond compare, Don't you? Don't you? Don't you? -- Of course you do! Copyright ©1996, Bob Clayton, Pete Kraemer, Joan Sprung. All Rights Reserved |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Bob Schwarer Date: 24 Nov 98 - 04:25 PM Drop Kick Me Jesus Through the Goal Posts of Life |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Bill in Alabama Date: 24 Nov 98 - 02:27 PM Steve: I was just a baby when the Americans entered the war, but I recall one that went: You're a sap, Mister Jap; You make a yankee cranky--/ You're a sap< Mister Jap--Uncle Sam is gonna spank' ee... and so on. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Date: 24 Nov 98 - 02:23 PM Migod- Somebody else remembers it. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Bill Cameron Date: 24 Nov 98 - 09:46 AM Oh yeah, the ballad of Lt Calley. That has one of those previously mentioned spoken words parts, doesn't it? A real tear-jerker. The little boy that ran around the house shooting his cap gun, and just wanted to grow up and serve his country, right? Bill |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: dick greenhaus Date: 23 Nov 98 - 05:09 PM Well, my personal pick for an un-favorite song topic is covred in the Ballad of Lt. Calley (It will be in the next edition of the DT). Definitely Pro. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Steve Parkes Date: 23 Nov 98 - 08:16 AM Some years back we were "celebrating" the 50th anniversary of WW2 (1939 over here), and we turned up a song with this chorus: Oh, the wop and the jap and the hun, They'll be sorry for the war that they've begun. They must pay the price, those three blind lice, The wop and the jap and the hun. Apologies if that offends; the war was over six years before I was born, so I'm not out to upset anyone. However, it's hard to resist such offensive songs, although we weren't allowed to use it in a show. But in '95 I was talking to Dave & Al Sealey (Cosmotheka) about their radio show of WW2 songs, and asked Dave if he'd come across the one above in the course of his researches. He had, of course; but he asked me if I'd heard one called Belsen Bill, which I haven't. He wouldn't sing it for me, and I don't want to know the details. Still, I thought I'd better warn you all ... Steve |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: BSeed Date: 22 Nov 98 - 05:21 PM Kinky's group was Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jew-Boys. His mystery stories (with himself as hero) are available in book stores. --seed |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: T.Welch Date: 22 Nov 98 - 12:42 AM I like this Birthday song from Wierd Al Yankovic: Well it's time to celebrate your birthday it happens once a year we eat a lot of broccoli and drink a lot a beer you should be good and happy that you have so much to eat a million people everyday are starving in the street your pappa's in the gutter with the wretched and the poor your mamma's in the kitchen with a can of Cycle 4 there's garbage in the water and poison in the sky I guess it won't be long till we're all gonna die Happy Birthday Happy Birthday to you What's a matter little baby think your party is the pits enjoy it while you can, we'll soon be blown to bits the monkeys in the pentagon are gonna cook our goose their fingers on the button, all they need is an excuse it doesn't take a military genius to agree we'll all be crispy critters after world war III there's nowhere you can run to and nowhere you can hide when they drop the big one, we all get fried CHO there's more, but you get the idea |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: T. Welch Date: 22 Nov 98 - 12:11 AM whatever you said, Dude |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: T.Welch Date: 22 Nov 98 - 12:07 AM How 'bout: You stink! (But I Love You) This one really exists |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Charlie Baum Date: 21 Nov 98 - 07:37 PM My own attempt to write a country-and-western song is "You're the Worm in the Apple of My Eye." --Charlie Baum
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Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 21 Nov 98 - 01:41 PM The worst lyrics are to rap and hip-hop songs. As was once remarked to me there are no rap or hip-hop love songs. You can't write a love song with the word "bitch" in it. What about "She Got The Gold Mine, I Got The Shaft". Every so often a list circulates by e-mail with the titles of outlandish songs, presumably country and western. I seem to recall Kinky Friedman writing a song with the title or refrain, "They Ain't Makin' Jews Like Jesus Any More" but IIRC it was an anti-racism song. I haven't heard anything of Kinky in years. Last I read of him he was writing novels, to promote which he was touring England in an enormous old Caddie with horns on the grill, with he and a female aide dressed in drugstore cowboy suits which he described as being "gauche even in Texas." I seem to recall that his band also had a provocative name. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Alice Date: 19 Nov 98 - 02:28 PM yes, Dick, the navel-gazing stuff is un-favorite. Omphalic lyrics are common with both male and female young songwriters. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: The Shambles Date: 19 Nov 98 - 12:33 PM How about those songs with the 'ernest talking bit' in the middle? |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Greg Baker Date: 19 Nov 98 - 08:43 AM In the science fiction "filksinging" circles (where I've played for 20 years now) the ones that get to me are serious songs about dead characters on a TV show, or mourning the latest crash of the Enterprise to Stan Roger's "Mary Ellen Carter". Pleeze! Greg Baker nyekulturniy@hotmail.com World's Most Modest Filksinger |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: alison Date: 19 Nov 98 - 06:44 AM Hi, "Teddy -bear" type stuff..... you know little crippled boy with CB radio...... lot's of huge trucks parked outside........ AAAAAAGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Although billy Connolly did a great rip off of all that sort of stuff..... it's the serious versions I can't stand. Slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: McMusic Date: 18 Nov 98 - 11:21 PM There's one from several years ago titled "Every time I get An Itch, I Wind Up Scratching You." And Mickey Gilley had one--"A Headache Tomorrow Or A Heartache Tonight." |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: dick greenhaus Date: 18 Nov 98 - 06:33 PM The Greek term is oomphalaskeptic songs. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Bill D Date: 17 Nov 98 - 10:07 PM Bert...your comment reminded me of a description I liked of some of the new 'singer-songwriter' stuff.. 'Young girls singing their diaries' |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: BSeed Date: 17 Nov 98 - 09:36 PM It's not my list, Roger. As I said, I just got it from my niece. I corrected a couple of words here and there in titles I knew. I think somewhere I have an album called lL"Songs of Couch and Consultation" with such songs as "Stay as Sick as You Are" and "I Can't Get Adjusted to the You Who Got Adjusted to Me," and "Hush, Little Baby, Don't You Cry (You'll Be Adjusted By and By)." --seed |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 17 Nov 98 - 07:19 PM Bseed, You listed "She Got The Ring and I Got The Finger." I remember this as "I Gave Her the Ring, and She Gave Me the Finger." A semi-local band, Bottlehill, did this one. The banjo player Walt Michael has gone on to bigger and better things, a wonderful hammered dulcimer player.
But I posted so I could get the chorus for this song out of my head and onto paper.
I gave her the ring, You just had to bring that song up, didn't you. Roger in Baltimore |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Barbara Date: 17 Nov 98 - 03:01 PM Or the Zeke Hoskin chorus I love: Load up on chili and blow out your shorts The ocean is wide, it's a long way to port The dusty old cowpoke goes riding along This chorus has nothing to do with the song. PLUG: he and his very funny songs can be found at: http://users.uniserve.com/~tzhoskin Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Bert Date: 17 Nov 98 - 02:30 PM Barbara, Good idea, similar things have been done before. ....I don't know where I'm going, but whenI get there I'll be glad. I'm following in Father's footsteps, Yes I'm following me dear old Dad. or Lewis Carrol's I sent a message to the fish... There's always room for one more though, I'll have to work on it. Bert. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Barbara Date: 17 Nov 98 - 01:39 PM Hey, Bert, that sounds like a possibility for a song. Something like "You were wondering where this is going, so am I..." Sounds kind of like the sort of thing you might write. Whaddaya think? Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Bert Date: 17 Nov 98 - 01:13 PM But the worst of all are those that don't seem to have a topic at all. You meet them all the time at Singer/Songwriter gatherings. They go on, and on, and on, never getting anywhere; and when they are done you think 'What was that all about?' Bert. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: McMusic Date: 17 Nov 98 - 01:05 AM Then theres the "Old Spot done died and gone to Jesus" type. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: 13wolfpuppies Date: 16 Nov 98 - 06:02 AM mustang sally. it should be the state anthem here in AZ cuz everybody wants to hear it about 15 times a night. |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: BSeed Date: 16 Nov 98 - 02:31 AM There's also the "Grandaddy said this to Granny, Daddy said it to Mom, I said it to your momma, and you say it to your bride" and its cousin, "Grampa said it to Daddy, Daddy said it to me, and now I'm sayin' it to you, cuz I can hear Jesus sayin' it to me." --seed |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: The Shambles Date: 16 Nov 98 - 02:05 AM Roger. At one of those ernest singer-songwriters nights the song that cause the most interest among the singer-songwriters, but not I think from the audience, was one entitled 'Blood On The Frets'. UGH! |
Subject: RE: Most un-favorite song topics From: Evelyn Date: 15 Nov 98 - 07:33 PM I happen to like "get out of here baby, the police are lookin' for you and my wife thinks your dead" by Junior Brown. |
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