BS: Give Us A Break

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Áine
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 11:50 PM

Sorcha,

Send me an email at [e-mail] -- that ought to reach me.

-- Áine

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 11:40 PM

<Á:>nie--Yes, I would like to learn, I don't have too much touble with vocab, but it's the darn m/f and genitive I have trouble with. When do you add an "h"? I will messaage you AM. Have done that 2x, have you rec'd?

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Brendy
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 11:23 PM

Ah, you got in before me there Áine!!!LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Brendy
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 11:16 PM

It means (approximately) 'Don't worry about the beggar's son, and the beggar's son will not worry about you."

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Áine
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 11:12 PM

I don't know, Brendy, I have a feeling that Sorcha would just love it if 'an mhac a bhachaigh' would 'bacaigh' with her a little bit!

-- Áine

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Áine
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 11:09 PM

No, Amos, we won't let you in! I'm just kidding. I bet you'd be a quick learner, too. Let me know if you'd like some Irish lessons, ya Frenchie ya!

-- Áine

(just wait 'till you find out that the word for Frenchman means another thing entirely(?) in Irish, too!)

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Brendy
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 11:06 PM

Try this one Sorcha
Na bac le mac a bheacáigh, is ní bhacfáidh mac a bheacáigh leatsa.
Good advice at any time of the day!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Amos
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 11:05 PM

I thought it was the little tykes who went for all that ecret-say alk-tay! Most adults I know ar ehappy to own up to what they're saying. :>) .
.
Alors, les copains, on va nous admettre dans votre societe secrete? Ou non?.
.
A

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Áine
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 11:04 PM

Dear Sorcha,

We're not talking in code. If you'd like to learn Irish, I could help you with some good learning materials. If you're understanding some of it already, I'd encourage you to study it. It is a beautiful and expressive language, and well worth the effort! Send me a private message if you're interested.

-- Áine

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 10:59 PM

There they go, the big kids talking in code again. The scary thing is that I am picking up more and more from context!

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Áine
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 10:53 PM

A Bhréandaí,

Go raibh maith agat, a chara chóir.

Le gach dea-ghuí, Áine

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 10:45 PM

Usually it's because it didn't seem to go through, Sorcha. I don't know how that happened!

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Brendy
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 10:35 PM

Níl fhios ar bith agam fáoi rúdaí mar líosta IRTRAD a hÁine. Níl mé cinnte gur bhfúil fhios ag Ristéard Téachglás ar ndóigh.
Tá an ceart agáinn a hÁine; Na bac leo.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 10:34 PM

Ah, Ok, didn't realize he was referring to a specific site. Sorry, Dick G. katl--what are you doing to get double posts? Hitting submit twice 'cause it's slow, or what? No prob, just that I have never seemed to do it....(knock wood)

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 10:26 PM

I followed the venerable *elders* of the Mudcat when I first came and watched as they posted messages of "I have it and will post it later if no one else has by then", so I was only following what seemed to be SOP.

I understand some of what you are saying, Dick, but none of those types of things are clear, hard and fast "rules", which it is my understanding, Max really doesn't want, anyway.

Would it be helpful, for those of us who are in there and see good stuff "buried", to send you a personal note of who, what, when, and where?

Also, Irish Trad, here on the Mudcat, is wonderful, as far as I am concerned and I hope none of you go away. Dick did seem to be referring to the specific List, not anyone on the Mudcat.

Thanks,

katlaughing

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Crowhugger
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 10:17 PM

OK so who else has noticed GUEST,Al's skill at tossing a match and sitting back to enjoy the fireworks? I say he's having a great time lurking. Too chicken to post though, once a little ticky-offy is shared.

Oh yes:

flame off.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Áine
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 10:15 PM

A Bhréandaí,

Tá súil agam nach bhfuil tú ag smaoineadh go raibh mé ag labhairt fút féin nó fána daoine Éiennacha/Meiriceánach-Éireannacha ar an líosta seo! Ní raibh mé ach ag magadh fána daoine ar an líosta IRTRAD ar nach bhfuil focal Gaeilge ar bith orthu agus chuir siad an t-ainm 'Irish Traditional Musician' orthu féin agus iad ag cur siad féin suas mar 'experts' ar an cheol traidisiúnta.

Le an-mheas, Áine

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 09:55 PM

And, you notice, GUEST AL has not been back, that we know of, to check out what he started.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 09:53 PM

Mea Culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa. You know, the reason we say things like--I have 'em, will post--is so that the poster does not think he/she/it has been ignored. I HATE being ignored......it's worse than being slammed. I, for one, (and there are lot's others), ALWAYS get back with what I promised. I just may not have time to do it "right this minute." And, as has been pointed out, the BS threads sometime go to the most amazing places. Regarding "time".......even after I've been off the forum for 48 hours, it only takes about 30 minutes to catch up on ALL the threads. I do the ones I'm interested in first, then if I WANT TO, I check out the others.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Brendy
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 09:28 PM

And, Guest Al, overlook us Irish Trad folk. Please forgive us for dragging the whole tone of this place down.
In fact I want to apologise for everything Irish Traddies have done down through the ages, for my ancestors, my contemporaries, and all future generations.
After all, we know nothing about music whatsoever, and have no right to do anything except take advice from experts, who know everything. And you will find them all over this place.
B.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 09:21 PM

My previous message got chopped, so I'll continue. Since all too many Mudcatters don't appear to read any better than they spell, I'll copy the original post, and then add my own comments.

There is just too much BS being posted on the non BS links that it is becoming difficult to help the folks that are genuinely looking for information.

I'll agree with this. Some of us just don't have the time (or the gumboots) to wade through all the irrelevancies on all the threads, and, as a result, just read fewer and fewer each day.

I see 40 and 50 posts on a simple request. For God's sake, if you don't have any useful information to add - don't post. Don't say "I have the recording - I'll post it if nobody else does." LISTEN to the recording and THEN post the lyrics. Don't post "I don't know that one - I'll send an Email to xxx to see if he/she knows."

OK. THis is an opinion, as valid as any other opinion. In general, I concur.

In other words, if you don't have anything to contribute to the thread - don't post. PS. PLEASE DO NOT add more shit to this thread - although the boneheads undoubtably wll.

I personally don't give a fiddler's whatever how padded BS threads become. If everbody that responded followed GUEST,Al's request, this thread would have vanished off the bottom of the screen long ago. I'd personally be much happier if music threads stuck more to the subject. One can speak or write for two basic reasons: to convey ideas and information to others, and to express oneself. The latter isn't really communication; I prefer to call it munication . And it really is only of value to the person who's municating. GUEST,AL---stick around. Join the Mudcat. And let's hear some substantive comments on music threads from you.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Áine
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 09:20 PM

Well, Sorcha, you've got to admit that the IRTRAD list doesn't have half the personality that the 'Cat does. And, (with the exceptions of the 'Catters that post on that list, of course) most of the folks there are really too full of themselves.

-- Áine

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 09:15 PM

"DOWN" to the Irish Trad. list? I thought we Irish trads were bringing the rest of you UP to our level! Ah, Dickie boy, ya probly shouldna done that.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Áine
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 08:49 PM

Uh, dick, I think we get message . . .

-- Áine

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 08:46 PM

Well, since Max started slinging his weight around here, I'll join in the mud-wrestling. I think that this obvious need for irrelevant self-expression has dragged this Forum down to the level of the Irish Trad. list---a level that's truly subterranean.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 07:44 PM

No,I don't believe it leprechaun. It's only English judges who say things like that.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Chet W.
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 03:58 PM

Went and had my head x-rayed. Full o' bones, says the Doctor. I'm supposed to stay away from bats and severed limbs. It's a big old goofy world, ain't it?

Chet

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Amos
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 03:36 PM

Don't ya love it when Max gets mad?

A

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Max
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 01:30 PM

Al, feel free to start your own forum. Your opinion is important AS A MEMBER, your are ONE of us. As a guest, take it for what it's worth or go away.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Troll
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 01:08 PM

For those of you with a more classical bent, look up onanism. Ain't culture grand?

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Áine
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 12:42 PM

Well done(?), Bert!

-- Áine

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Bert
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 12:39 PM

The first verse says it all

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Bert
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 12:38 PM

Here Leprachaun

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Áine
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 12:24 PM

Dear leprechaun,

You've got to be kidding! If not, go ask your brother or your male cousin . . . but, DON'T ask your daddy . . .

-- Áine

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: leprechaun
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 12:18 PM

What's the definition of "Wanker?"

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 11:09 AM

This is it! (
).

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: canoer
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 10:06 AM

Mudcat alchemy!

Turning dross into an all-day smile. -- :<))

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Alice
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 09:30 AM

Hagbard, thank you for redeeming my Nov 27 activities.

alice

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Gary T
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 09:28 AM

Ah, Lucius--touche!

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Lucius
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 08:12 AM

So are you looking for the John Lennon song that goes: "All I am saying is give me a break"? I got the album somewhere, I'll post the lyrics if nobody else gets to it first.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Metchosin
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 04:06 AM

Hmmm. someone who wants instant gratification without social interaction.....sounds like a wanker to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Escamillo
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 02:27 AM

Let me quote something interesting from Gary:
......................................................
A careful reading of Guest,Al's first post will show that he was not referring to BS threads, but to "BS" on non-BS threads. Presumably he was frustrated with threads that meander while simultaneously failing to get to the point of the request. Unfortunately, his example: 'Don't say "I have the recording - I'll post it if nobody else does."' did not help his case, for the reason Metchosin gave in the first response
......................................................
That's the point (in my opinion), if Al would not show such a dictatorial attitude and accuse all of us of idiots and headbones (?), myself and many others would have understood perfectly, and would support his points: keep bullshit where bullshit belongs, OK, perhaps we have really made mistakes ! But why insulting ? Are we all Internet-ill teenagers who insult each other everyday for fun ? do we need a police to discipline us ? do we need just HIM to learn the rules ? we are mature people ! Give US a break !
I'll continue, and , as usual, as ALWAYS, will try not to interfere in musical subjects with my strange theories. So simple.
BONK ! - Andres' head

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Metchosin
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 12:30 AM

Besides Mark, I owe my husband big time. Mrs. Claus put a small bottle of them in his stocking this Christmas and they turned out to be rancid.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Brendy
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 12:25 AM

Well it's not Robbie Williams, anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Metchosin
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 12:23 AM

Mark I want my Macadamia nuts, that's Robbie Burns.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: paddymac
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 12:06 AM

Chet W gave some good advice about consulting certain medical practioners, but apparently over-looked proctologists. :>)

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 12:04 AM

Oops. "...was not otherwise _than_ what you had been..." How could I have been so careless?

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 14 Feb 00 - 12:01 AM

Hagbard, that was brilliant. I couldn't have said it better myself, and now I don't have to. I would only add, "Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise that what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise." (Free bag of macadamia nuts to the first correct attribution.)

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Crowhugger
Date: 13 Feb 00 - 11:53 PM

Gary T, that's a good idea. And so very kind. Maybe it would help if posters can remember to identify drifts or creeps using the time-tested flame method. Speaking of which, Al's opening tone did irk me, so...

flame on GUEST,Al, if it's too much reading, hire an assitant to precis the threads you (dis)like. OR You think it's too much reading? Try the library for the same info. AND Realtime is not a flash, but a whole day to walk 25 miles. flame off.

There, now that that's off my chest...this is, after all, a forum and not a short-answer test.

Subject: RE: BS: Give Us A Break
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 13 Feb 00 - 11:44 PM

Gosh, it's good to be back at Mudcat! Actually "Guest AL" DOES love it here, 'cause of course he doesn't want to use his real name and actually get yelled at by folks he knows. T'will always be thus, from now on in the Mudcat....bit sad really.

Rick