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BS: Senator Ted Stevens (1923-2010)

Ebbie 15 Aug 10 - 09:34 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens (1923-2010)
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 09:34 PM

Go ahead and start one, robo. I'm not a fan of Ted Stevens but even I am aware of some good things he has done.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens (1923-2010)
From: robomatic
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 09:29 PM

Senator Ted for all anyone's criticism, deserves better than the shiddy post directly preceding from itchy-male. Unlike itchy male, Senator Ted Stevens was a MAN.

I think he deserves his own thread with attention paid to his considerable activities and achievements in his younger days.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens (1923-2010)
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 09:19 PM

Dang. It must be that those internet tubes got plugged up.


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Subject: Assassinated As Obama "Weather War" Plunges World
From: ichMael
Date: 15 Aug 10 - 09:13 PM

A new report prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Russia's foreign military intelligence directorate (GRU) states that a former top United States Senator, Ted Stevens, was assassinated this week after he attempted to gather evidence "proving" that President Obama has unleashed America's devastating "weather weapons" against the World.

As we had previously reported on in our August 3rd report titled "Russia Burns, China Drowns: US To Blame?" Russian research scientist Dr. Andrey Areshev has joined the ranks of International scientists and experts stating their belief that the extreme weather chaos currently battering our Planet is being caused by the Tesla technology based weapons systems directed from Alaska's High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, otherwise known as HAARP....

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/08/top-us-senator-assassinated-as-obama-%E2%80%9Cweather-war%E2%80%9D-plunges-world-into-chaos/

Not that I believe this whole thing, especially, but the Ruskies are expert in Tesla technology. Back in the fifties they knew they wouldn't be able to keep pace with the U.S. in a nuclear arms race, so they spent money developing alternative weapons systems. They know Tesla technology when they see it. Add to this the fact the Obama's trying to make money with his cap and trade investments...


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 01:15 AM

I agree, Genie. I think a plane crash is among the worst imaginable deaths. Mostly because of the longish period of time before the crash itself but also because of the horrendous damage to the bodies. And I think in Stevens' case it is especially pitiable since he had been in a 1978 crash that killed his then-wife. Doesn't seem right that he had to die in another one.

By the way, up yonder it speaks glowingly of Ted Stevens' work in accomplishing Alaska statehood. May I say that he was a johnny-come-lately in that effort. There had been many people working for it for years before Stevens came to the Department of Interior, and if you'll notice he was there only six years before the bill passed. Interior may have called him 'Mr. Alaska' but Alaska itself did NOT. That honor - or blame - belongs to Senator Bob Bartlett.

Bob Bartlett presented an Alaska Statehood bill in the Senate NINE times before it finally passed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens killed in plane crash
From: Genie
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 12:29 AM

Former Senator Ted Stevens was one of 5 people killed yesterday in the crash of a private plane in Alaska.


Eighty years is a nice long life span, but I would not wish this kind of death on anyone. R I P


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: GUEST, Eb
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 07:25 PM

Woo hoo!


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 06:41 PM

It wasn't original.

            Are you suggesting delving into lovely Alaskan women?


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 11:54 PM

lol, Rig. Not nice but lol.

It is also possible that what makes a woman in Alaska lovely is a little deeper than many women 'down south'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 11:45 PM

Isn't Alaska where, when women leave, they are advised that they will be ugly again?


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: robomatic
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 05:37 PM

"Alaska where you can never be too fat or too drunk!"

The Simpsons Movie


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 12:28 AM

Get in there fast, Rig. Other people are bound to start waking up soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 06:55 PM

I'm going to make a fortune in Alaska and start selling water wings for bulldozers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 12:28 AM

And the trucks will have outriggers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 10:58 PM

And OSHA will insist that truck drivers wear scuba gear to work.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 01:21 PM

Something that is not often addressed is that with 'climate change' the winters in the far north may very soon not last long enough to accommodate the snow roads.

Buy land! Plant bananas!


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 20 Aug 07 - 08:14 AM

With the race to develope the North Pole underway, it sounds like Alaska is going to get re-made, in a very big way.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 11:44 PM

Not hardly, Rig. Bite y'all's tongue. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 18 Aug 07 - 09:26 PM

'"And Hackney chided the demonstrators and said Stevens and Young and Murkowski "Made Alaska."'


                In their own image?


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 15 Aug 07 - 07:56 PM

Now that Russia, Canada, the US, Denmark and Norway are engaged in a fight for the resources under the North Pole, we'll probably see more Stevenses, Murkowskis, and Youngs in Alaska.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Deckman
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 08:52 PM

The problem, as I see it, is that NOW all of ALASKA is vunernable. Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 11:12 AM

Oh, yes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 13 Aug 07 - 08:19 AM

"This next election both Stevens and Young are perceived as vulnerable, for the first time in decades."


                   Is Ted Stevens seriously talking about running for another term?


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 12:48 PM

Of course. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Deckman
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 12:45 PM

I REALLY knew that ... I was just testing you! (you DO believe that, don't you?) Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 12:27 PM

Ah, Bob- your "ignorance" stems from having misspelt the word! 'Denouement': no c.

Let me look it up.

de·noue·ment      /ˌdeɪnuˈmɑ̃/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[dey-noo-mahn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. the final resolution of the intricacies of a plot, as of a drama or novel.
2. the place in the plot at which this occurs.
3. the outcome or resolution of a doubtful series of occurrences.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Deckman
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 12:22 PM

Ebbie ... Forgive my ignorance please. What is a "denouncment?" Thanks, Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 12:13 PM

This next election both Stevens and Young are perceived as vulnerable, for the first time in decades. There are several, including a couple of Republicans, who are talking about running against them.

Governor Palin said something interesting the other day. She mentioned the ongoing investigations and implied that there could be a denouement any day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: GUEST,ALCAN1
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 11:53 AM

Our 2 senators and our 1 rep in congress are jokes and have been for many years. Im a conservative and these nuts we keep electing drive me bonkers every time they win. The problem is because of the big oil money there is nobody who can run against them. Besides, as has been shown in the last 2 months all the state lawmakers are bought and paid for. Living in Valdez for the last 30 plus years Ive seen it all first hand.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Deckman
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 11:08 AM

emjay ... Was your picket sign very heavy? Bob(deckman)Nelson


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 12:47 AM

Very aptly called a Pig Roast.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: emjay
Date: 12 Aug 07 - 12:38 AM

Alaskans all over the place. This is getting to be almost like reading the letters pages in the Anchorage Daily News. Somebody (John Hackney,whose name means nothing in this context)was on the news a couple of nights ago during a demonstration outside a house where a $1000 a plate fundraiser was being held for our lone Congressman, Don Young. And Hackney chided the demonstrators and said Stevens and Young and Murkowski "Made Alaska."
That's the worst of it. They really think these people and free-flowing oil money made Alaska.
The money made it something but I don't understand why they brag about it. I was here before statehood, and before oil money and this was a wonderful place.
I've said it before. If I had only seen this post-oil, post-Ted Stevens, Don Young, et al, Alaska, I'd be living in Maine.
That Don Young fundraiser is another story not to brag about.
mj


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 11 Aug 07 - 11:34 PM

robo - You'd know more about it than I would. It just seems like when something goes wrong in a place like Alaska, it just takes a whole lot longer to fix it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: robomatic
Date: 11 Aug 07 - 05:25 PM

Hey sailor, wanna buy some tundra?.

Ain't never been rode on, drilled, nor chawed!

When we've wasted and blasted and quarried half the state we'll still have enough left over to cover Texas.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 11 Aug 07 - 10:59 AM

I guess that's happened almost everyplace. But it just seems like Alaska has more to loose than most other places.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: robomatic
Date: 11 Aug 07 - 02:54 AM

Well, we gained a lot of oil people who brought up:

Baptists, Texans, and Walmart culture.

Sen. Ted goes back to postwar days but as we've seen in this thread he had a lot to do with shaping the Alaska of today.

I'm sure there were folks who felt that the discovery of gold in the Yukon and later Alaska led to its own inescapable devolution of certain subarctic values.
Oil led us to the modern version of Alaska we find ourselves in today. On the national level it keeps our (US) horrible balance of trade from being much more horrible. On the local level it has brought a kind of reign of the internal combustion engine. I was invited fishing this morning which entailed me getting out of the house at about 4 AM to drive my Toyota pickup an hour North of town where I met up with others and we drive up a muddy rutty windy little road that takes us to the banks of the Knik River. On the way to that turnoff I was passed by a shiny black Dodge Ram pickup flying down the highway towing a trailer on which was a four-wheeler with ITS OWN TRAILER.

Reminded me of when I was brandy new here working in Anchorage, and one of the other employees Rode his own truck to a small airport in Wasilla, got in his own plane, flew it to Anchorage, got in a second truck in Anchorage, and came to the office. I meditated on the fact that this fella, an electrician, had three large engines totally at his own beck and call, to accomplish the daily commute.

I'm not sure I have a point Suffice it to say that after getting up by three and doing the fishing stint and then a full day of work I'm in an altered state of consciousness.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 10 Aug 07 - 11:32 AM

When gold gave way to oil, Alaska seems to have lost something.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: robomatic
Date: 10 Aug 07 - 12:08 AM

I can almost cry thinking of Sourdough Mike singing that in The Fly-By-Night Club!


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: KT
Date: 09 Aug 07 - 10:50 PM

I have a neighbor who's a member, RAP. I'll see what I can do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Deckman
Date: 09 Aug 07 - 10:20 AM

Mike,

If, if you'll stay in your office until noon, we've arranged for one of those kool blue hats to walk in and talk with you. Perhaps you can get his hat! CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Aug 07 - 09:27 AM

I want one of those dark, dark blue baseball caps with only the gold stars on it -- but all I've seen also say "Alaska." The AK National Guard also has/had the coolest shoulder patch I've ever seen.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 09 Aug 07 - 07:41 AM

Well, I guess the FBI needed to have something to do, anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Aug 07 - 12:12 AM

We make up for having Ted Stevens by having Rep. Don Young too. :(

All of them, including Ted Stevens' son, Ben, are under FBI investigation. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 03:52 PM

Very nice. Thanks. I'll print it out.

            Of course, now, instead of sourdoughs you've got Ted Stevens.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 03:00 PM

Alaska's state song, Riginslinger. It's fun, and rather moving, to sing.

Eight stars of gold on a field of blue -
Alaska's flag. May it mean to you
The blue of the sea, the evening sky,
The mountain lakes, and the flow'rs nearby;
The gold of the early sourdough's dreams,
The precious gold of the hills and streams;
The brilliant stars in the northern sky,
The "Bear" - the "Dipper" - and, shining high,
The great North Star with its steady light,
Over land and sea a beacon bright.
Alaska's flag - to Alaskans dear,
The simple flag of a last frontier.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 02:34 PM

Are we talking about Alaska's state flag, or the 49 star flag, or...? And not being an Alaskan, I'm not sure...


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 12:30 PM

Alasks's flag. May it mean to you...


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 07:54 AM

"Huh? Powers was shot down in 1960 - but the relevance?"


               Only context. Sorry, I was pretty young at the time and I guess I was just thinking out loud.


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: robomatic
Date: 08 Aug 07 - 02:39 AM

EIGHT STARS OF GOLD ON A FIELD OF BLUE............


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Subject: RE: BS: Senator Ted Stevens
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Aug 07 - 10:20 PM

Huh? Powers was shot down in 1960 - but the relevance?


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