Knockholt Forever Autumn

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: GUEST,folkmob
Date: 30 Aug 09 - 03:02 AM

every decent organiser of any session ought roundly to reject fascism, and to say so

The following is extracted from Folkmob constitution:

9. DIVERSITY
The club values the diversity among its committee, it's members and any guests that attend. Anybody performing material of a racist nature, or found to be harassing other club members, will be asked to leave and will have their membership revoked.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 06:44 PM

Got a open earhole
PM Me or I,lll see you at Knockers?

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 06:32 PM

John. Im 100% behind but lets do it proper. Knockholt is to small for this,

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: The Barden of England
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 06:15 PM

OK, then I won't be there. I sure as hell don't want to feel resticted, nor spoil the good time that I know you'll have. I feel that strongly about this, and apologise to you all beforehand. I'll hand the Saffron to Richard Bridge
John Barden

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 03:49 PM

I feel quite exhausted about this issue. Most people I have met at Knockholt over the years are time honored to me. for umpteen reasons Playing singing and more.

I have very strong feelings about this issue so PM me if you have time to hear them. Im not debating it openly any more .At present Im still coming to Knockholt.
Polish Bird is back from Poland and will be meeting me Saturday night. She told me today on the phone she "cant wait to see you folk

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: fisheye
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 01:52 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen, please....Knockholt Folk Sessions leaves the adulterated world at the gate. We have four or five days of enjoyable folk music, singing, drinking and by the sound of this forum eating also.
So please let us all keep it that way, and not ruin a good thing.

fisheye

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 01:12 PM

I don't run any sessions. But I think that every decent organiser of any session ought roundly to reject fascism, and to say so.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 12:50 PM

I'd be inclined to leave it up to the discretion of individual organisers as to what they feel is appropriate for the individual sessions or festivals they run (I'm certain Richard will do his own bit, in the session he runs.) As soon as people feel they are being pressured to 'sign up' there will be automatic reaction against that pressure, and that won't be positive for the cause in any way. Better to tread gently with contentious issues I think, in order to prevent rejection of the whole issue. This doesn't prevent individuals 'flying their own flags' so to speak. Or indeed arranging an informal discussion amongst those already on board, and possible interested others.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 12:24 PM

Pierre, upset me? Noooo! Just a throwaway bit of nonsense. I was drinking Gin last night and posting silly stuff all over the board. I meant at least you (unlike me) only post daft drunken posts on Knockers threads, where they are safely contained amongst friends :-)

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Royston
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 10:33 AM

I agree with Pete, about Knockholt. It's too small, it doesn't need politics. I've heard people make the most stupid racist comments there before on odd occasions and I have had to take a view about how to respond, as you do in life. Generally I just stay away from the racists and they stay away from me. Most folk at Knockholt are decent and give or take the odd lairy so and so, everyone manages to get along well.

So nobody should use a little non-commercial gathering of old folkies as a political soapbox. NO POLITICS IN PUBLIC. I intend to follow that rule, I expect others to do likewise whether they be people with whom I agree or with whom I do not agree.

Anyone not happy with that had better stay away because I'm pretty sure this is the prevaling view and that the consensus will be against anyone can't deal with that.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: The Barden of England
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 09:42 AM

Peter - Folk against Fascism is what is says it is. It is about a certain point of view which is taken by some people regarding people of colour, people's sexuality or their religion. There are bigots out there who are trying to use folk music to further their fascist agenda, so in that sense it is not political. I will be harping on about this at Knockholt, and if it's not wanted, then I won't come - plain and simple. I'm being attacked by these very people elsewhere, and will NOT shut up, nor will I be forced to.
John Barden

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 07:01 AM

"You dont need a weather man to know which way the wind blows"

Crow,s sister your last post has gone completely over my head. Have I posted something on a thread that has caused you upset or anger? If so please explain ? or PM me.

Now I might upset folk.
I do not think there should be any banner strung on the Knockholt field gate apart from the Folkmob Banner. keep the folk against fascist banners for the big fests like Sidmouth etc. In all the years I have been going to knockholt I have never spoke politics to anyone and I have never heard it mentioned. also I have never witnessed any individual/s spouting there mouths off regarding there own political opinions. With such a banner all this could change and it could ruin a great quiet little fest. Stick to music and song.
Kind regards to all Pierre.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 04:51 AM

better get them rain trousers from ebay then

feckin outbid on the Morgan Monroe too

shit fire and save matches,

this day is getting worse and worse

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 02:31 AM

Wevva changed again: now raining all Sat and Sun

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 08:13 PM

Just as well someone else is making nana posts Pierre, 'Cos I know I'm doing so... At least you're a good lad and keep your drunking to Knockers threds innit? :)

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 08:02 PM

If you you can make head or tail out of what i have just posted. Then thank god there,s no more gigs till KNOCKHOLT

NO MORE GIGS TILL KNOCKHOLT, Good name for a Albam /CD.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 07:52 PM

Thanks Naughty.For invite above
No I have had enough........Played S&G Greenwich.
Made a right Horse arse of myself, I Dont care though, because folk said" You sang great,
so I blamed guitar. I was told I was in tune. One of those nights ,Can Please everyone,

But ones self.Kind Regards Pierre.xx

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: naughtyforty
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 11:18 AM

There is something going on in Broadstairs at the Wrotham Arms Pierre.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 08:30 AM

"Axe ,Axe" What you wanna a Axe for?
I know I could chop up the mandolin and then burn it.

Im only joking I will buy new strings for Mandolin and bring it along to Knockers regardless.

"Im really looking forward to knockholt what ever the weather may throw at us.

"ROLL ON KNOCKERS"
"ROLL ON KNOCKERS"      
I have this Saturday and Sunday off anything folk wise going on I am back at
The Bedlam Museum Monday.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 07:35 AM

Oh that lives in the vardo and there is another prmanently attached to my A-frame.

Wevva now showing very light rain most of Thurs and at noon (only) on sat!

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Lady Raffles
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 07:30 AM

Don't forget the spirit level.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 06:57 AM

I will have toolkit with me...

And chainsaw, and sack-barrow, and generator, and axes, etc!

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Lady Raffles
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 05:19 AM

Great! our smoker has arrived just in time for the weekend, the only problem is that we have to assemble it ourselves and we don't have a very good track record for that sort of thing, it once took us about a month to work out how to put our first-borns cot together so fingers crossed for Knockholt.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: GUEST,Pierre Le cHAPEAU
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 04:46 PM

"GOOD ME MANDOLIN WILL BURN QUICKER"

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 03:22 PM

Ask and ye shall receive. 14-day metcheck showing fine Weds to Sat inclusive.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 03:19 PM

MORGAN MONROE MA1 MANDOLIN.That sounds good.

My mandolins broken at the nut and despite a attempt to fix it for Knockholt,Im sorry to say today it all went funny and the top A string broke and I couldnt tune it. Useless again.

Its exspensive to have it repaired professionally time and time again.
Im progressing with it but again these breakages are set backs. I am
seriously thinking of packing it in and thriowing it on the fire at Knockholt and that will be the end of it.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 02:49 PM

If the weather turns out to be as bad as predicted, I am gonna be hurtin. Takes weeks to recover from exposure to damp cold. Cripples me for days. Somebody do sumfin about the weather please?

Re food, I will bring prepped winter veggies for roast as promised. May leave off the beef as I don't want to spend all day Saturday (my only full day there) messing with food.
Banana loaf - yes
Devilled eggs - yes
Waldorf Salad - prolly not.

Richard has set my mouth watering for sweet potatoes with cinnamon. But I won't go there.

If I am lucky, very lucky, I may be bringing a Morgan Monroe MA1 mandolin.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 01:16 AM

Theres a song that we used to sing when we were kids.

Old man Noah built the Ark.
He built it out of Sprouse Wood,bark   

(Same has my Tanglewood guitar )

He built it long both wide and tall
with plenty of room for the large and small.


Who built the Ark?
Noah ,Noah
who built the Ark?
Old man Noah built the Ark.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 27 Aug 09 - 12:46 AM

Now changed nice until Saturday pissing Sat PM

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 06:01 PM

The main site is rstricted from the workplace.(Bloody I.T DEPT..

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: GUEST,Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 05:20 PM

Im gonna look at the 14 day forcast now. It might have a brighter out look for me?

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 04:42 PM

And to cap your day, Wevva is now in range of 14-day forecasts and it appears to be going to rain from Weds to Sun.

Anyone got any cedars, or pairs of animals?

Cheap deed polls, change your name to Shem, Ham, or Japheth?

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: GUEST,Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 04:31 PM

Thanks Richard,
Bugger it.
just my luck.
I have asked Growler to confirm there top of the bill on the other thread but if that the case I wont be going.

I ,ll be buzzing about like a blued arse fly all day Tuesday getting ready for Knockers.
Oh well there be playing again.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 01:44 PM

I think Brian and Marion are top of the bill so will be last.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: GUEST,Abdul the Bul Bul on laptop
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 11:22 AM

Hi PTC ...julienned is "shredded" or thin strips if you can be arsed.
Goes brown quick too so last minute job.

Enjoy the event, I'll be reading about it!!

Al

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Lady Raffles
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 09:40 AM

Great! but make sure you don't spill them all on the wobbly wobbled way back.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 08:57 AM

Brian and Marian( No Worries) are playing the Good Intent the Tuesday night before Knockholt. I do not want to miss that. I hope they come on first because there is another lineup the same evening but that means I wont be able to get home if I stay to see both.

One night in a BnB is not worth it and I also want to be at home because Woodsie said Kay would take us to Knockholt which is very kind and makes life so much easier. I like to be there by 11oclock latest so we can get set up and then set off to Pub.

Richard do you know what time roughly you will be getting to the field Wednesday?
I will have all the meats early Tuesday and stick them in my freezer,
I will buy from my mate who delivers frozen but they will need your cool box come Wednesday evening . The routine of going down the pub on the wednesday is not a problem for it closes for some reason at 3oclock so we be back on the field by 4 considering picking Blackberries on the way back up.

Lady Raffles I will take a bucket with me every time I go to the Tally Ho and pick Blackberries on the way down and on the wobbly wobbled way back up again.

The amount of times me and Woodsie walk down that lane to the pub you can rest assured the bucket will be full to over flowing by Thursday night.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: naughtyforty
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 06:22 AM

I am happy to bring chick peas and lentils. Are red lentils OK Richard? They thicken brilliantly and I have a stock in my cupboard as I use them all the time. Would tinned chick peas be OK? They need no prior preparation. If not, I can get some dried ones and do the necessary before I get there. Little Apprentice and I will be there on Friday evening. We are trying to persuade Maria by the sea to come as well. Puddings are all in preparation as well.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Lady Raffles
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 05:44 AM

I'm going to cook my chickens in a wood smoking oven now instead of the chicken brick, Anthony and Lesley bought one this summer and it was brilliant so we've just ordered one as well. While we were in France half our plum tree fell down due to the bumper crop of fruit on it so I'll be stuffing the chickens with fresh herbs, lemon and garlic then smoking them over plum wood. I can do that on Thursday and Saturday and maybe leave the bread rolls and chocolate banana's for Saturday when I'll have more preparation time (we won't be arriving on Thursday until about 5pm) If anyone feels like picking some blackberries, there should be loads in the hedges around the field and also in Stonings Lane then I don't mind stewing them on the Thursday evening and we can have them with a couple of ready made flan cases and cream.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 04:21 AM

Must get my Woody Guthrie songbook out..wonder if I brought it...

"In the misty crystal glitter of that wild and windward spray"

Blimey.

Al

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Aug 09 - 03:45 AM

Yes, Donegan definitely did that

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 25 Aug 09 - 08:34 PM

Fisheye.
here are the lyrics has I promised for the Woody Guthrie Song you want to do at Knockholt. Are you sure about Lonnie Donagan
doing a version of this song? if so check the lyrics they may differ?

I will do in the key of C.Guitar.
and you will acompany on Banjo in key of G. BLOODY PARLAVA.
I cant see a song like this being played and sung slowly. It has a tempo of about 120. Re our talk the other night at folkmob you were right I was thinking of another song that is very similar. I beg your Pardon.
                The Grand Coulee Dam.
The world has seven wonders,the travelers always tell.
Some garden and some towers I guess you know them well.
But the greatest wonder is in uncle sams fair land.
Its that King Columbia river and the big Grand Coulee Dam.

She heads up the Canadian rockies where the rippling waters glide.
Come,s a rumbling down the canyon to meet the salty tide.
Of the wide Pacific ocean where the sunm sets in the west
and the big grand Coulee country is the land I love the best.

In the misty crystal glitter of that wild and windward spray
men have fought the pounding waters and met a watery grave.
She tore the bvoats to spintersbut she gave men dreams to dream.Of the day the Coulee dam would cross that wild and wasted stream.

Uncle Sam took up the challenge in the year of ,33
For the farmer and the factory and all of you and me.
He said "Roll along Columbia", You can rambke to the sea,
But river while your rambling you can do some work for me.

Now in Washington and Oregen you can hear the factories hum,
making chrome and making magnesium and light aluminium.
And there roars a mighty furnace now to fight for Uncle Sam.
Spawned upon the King Columbia by the Big Grand Coulee Dam.


Regards Pierre.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 25 Aug 09 - 07:47 PM

I,ll bring flat metal plates. I also have flat metal plates and a number of other metle cooking dishes hidden in the hedge and a few woks buried about the place from back in June.

I thought it would save bringing them back this time has I plan to traval light.I,ll dig them up when I get there. I buried me cooker in dead tree copse I,ll dig that up too( If I can find it ?)

I,ll get Belly Pork ,Chicken, and Beef.

I Quote.
Can we rename this thread the Richard Bridge and Pierre Le Chapeau
gourmet cooking show? thats tickled me, You can if you want Essex Girl But    "Its a bit long winded" Can we have a banner put up on the gate underneath Folk against Fascism banner.

"The RB & P.L.C.GOURMET COOKING SHOW"
is Less of a mouthful, Ha Ha Mouthful ,cooking Ha Ha.


We both have showed a interest in at least one other topic regarding Knockholt.
The water fiasco for a start. Hopefully thats sorted?
You,ve cheered up my night at work Essex Girl.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Aug 09 - 05:22 PM

He sounds just like us.

Woodsie, Folkmob Members - can Folkmob provide a "Folk against Fascism" banner for the gate (or marquee)? Or shall I BEG Dilligaff to make one?

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 25 Aug 09 - 05:19 PM

That's great John, so long as you realise my Father never 'grew out of' the sixties... He's still there, in spirit, and he loves those Mermans Mermits... OOps! Must rush, gotta tighten the restraints... He's started trying to light the pickled cabbage again.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 25 Aug 09 - 05:16 PM

I have been trying to get a sense of what we have planned, above, about food.

Pete wants to cook on Saturday.

Is there also a feast on Thursday?

I will bring LEG OF LAMB. I can tagine it Thurs or Sat.

I can also tagine SAT if desired - other meats seem to be decided on, so I opt to do PORK and apricot tagine.

Pete, you were going to get Lamb (now not necessary) beef and chicken. Can you now rather than Lamb please get Pork for me to tagine? Belly pork will be fine.

I will chase Blossom for wine for marinades, and provide coolboxes and ice blocks for lengthy marinading, and provide harissa paste, dried apricots, and ginger, and tagine spices.

There are TWO volunteers for chicken bricks - Crow Sister and Lady Raffles. I think they will bring thier own chickens.

So, Pete, the only meat you need to buy will be the beef and pork and I will split the cost with you.

Table of volunters: -

PlC - Bread (but not on Saturday, pub calling) including herb breads). Herbs of many kinds. Some spices. Finger peppers. Roasting Beef and Lamb marinaded on Sat. Pavlova.

VT - unspiced beef, Veg (spuds, carrots, parsnips and onyums) but not courgettes or aubergines. VT special Waldorf salad. Maybe devilled eggs. Banananananana bread.

RB - Harissa paste, Old Lamb, ginger, cheap wine, dried apricots, red onions, black olives (or maybe queen olives stuffed with garlic) courgettes aubergines. Tagine of Pork Thurs or Sat, not proud. I will use (and provide FRESH not preserved citrus - not sure what breed of citrus yet). Shall I be custard king for Essex Girl's apple crumble, or is there another volunteer?

CS - Chicken brick. Flat-breads (has anyone got a thick smoot flat metal plate?) Veggie tagine (which day?)

Lady Raffles - Another chicken brick, bread rolls - maybe rice if enough burners can be lit! Raffles special chocolate banananananas.

Naughty 40 - Chickpeas and lentils (soaked and softened as necessary please) for thickening tagine(s). Cous-cous. Millet? Puddings - including chocolate caramel shortbread

JB - Saffron

Essex girl - tomatoes (I can put some in the tagine in stead of tinned ones, nice!) runner beans. Apple Crumble.



Is there a volunteer to bring sweet potatoes fo rthe tagine(s)?



Ye gods it has taken ages to try to collate that.

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: The Barden of England
Date: 25 Aug 09 - 05:01 PM

He should be at home - I was 15 when the 60's started and 25 when they finished. I do remember quite a bit of that decade too mind you, even though I did all the sixties things that should, and did get done ;-)
John Barden

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 25 Aug 09 - 04:11 PM

This year I'm planning to come along with my awld fella (AKA "old man" or " in local terms, or "Father" as Tam recently learned) also known as "PETE-BANE" or "BREW-BANE". You must all be kind to him because he's got hardly any teeth left (aaaah!) and is a balding old hippy, plus he still needs green herbal cigarettes to cope with being a child of the sixties.

Also the only songs he can play are by Beatles or Jethro Tull & he is very totally utterly rubbish. But he does have quite a good voice. And a trailer & sack barrow...

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Essex Girl
Date: 25 Aug 09 - 03:50 PM

Can we rename this thread the Richard Bridge and Pierre le Chapeau gourmet dining show?
I'll discuss other comestibles with folkmob and any other interested party. Val where are you?

Subject: RE: Knockholt Forever Autumn
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 25 Aug 09 - 09:28 AM

it Pissed for three days solid.
Really?
I wouldnt know.
Well if we have the same this year I,ll cook during the day in the Marquee.

I belong to a number of discussion sites and its not the same has talking face to face.
I think your right Richard we should discuss the cooking face to face at Knockholt.
after all there will be plenty of time .