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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 28 Oct 07 - 12:51 AM WYSYJIG - The clone removed last night's recipe:
Simplified & Shortened (for clones)
1. Mix Pancake according to intructions....set aside. 2. Mix equal amounts of corn-meal (to Pancake) to water and bring to boil....stove or microwave 3. 1/4 cup sugar and 1 tbs vanilla. 4. MIX cornmeal mush, pancake, and sugar vanilla together 5. Bake in 12X8 pan 20 minutes in preheated 400 degree oven. 6. Test on bottom of pan for "sizzle" for complete cooking. Serve with Sorgum/Butter/or Lard
Sincerely,
No wonder ....no wonder....no wonder....no wonder - |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: wysiwyg Date: 27 Oct 07 - 10:03 PM it takes a lot of forethought to eat decently while broke I disagree. It takes creativity and a devil-may-care attitude, and it also takes the ability to TAKE and to harvest the bizarre opportunities that come along. I'll relate someone else's experience to illustrate. When we were struggling to feed the three growth-spurting teens, one winter, a parish family's privation came to our attention very suddenly one evening. One minute I was reaching for Stovetop Stuffing, and the next I was hearing Hardi's tale of a parish family on the skids and in one move, that box of Stuffing went instead into a carton-- along with everythig else I had in that pantry. That week, from I-have-no-idea-where, various grocery bags had turned up on our back porch in the country, respecting-privacy way. When I learned of this family's plight, I had, for the first time I could recall in several years, a full panrty. So I emptied it into a couple of boxes and drove Hardi to the frozen, windswept rendezvous point where he had asked the teenager in that family to meet him on the sly. I was in tears, so grateful to be in a position to help, and so grateful that I threw a frozen turkey in there as well-- one of the 3 we'd raised, skinned, and quartered to fit in the freezer. The receiving teen had no idea why Father had asked him to come-- or he'd not have come-- but cried in gratitude to lift those heavy boxes with boxed items tumbling out in the headlights, once he realized it was FOOD. Hardi simply said, "Hey, buddy, thanks for coming-- can you help me get rid of this?" "Sure!" the boy blubbered. "Don't tell them where you got it," Hardi cautioned. "OK!" was the reply blown away in the winter wind as the kid disappeared up the slippery path to their trailer, where our car could not have traveled. We left the other boxes on the ground and left before he got back for the next load, because we figured that by then he'd be feeling embarrassed and might appreciate some privacy. But that boy, that night-- HE was the provider for his family. My point is that to do bulk cooking, which is how to eat cheap, you have to have a starter-pantryfull or freezerfull to fit the new on-sale items into as they come up. I KNOW that when you're really poor, you cannot fund that starter-load yourself. But-- you can harvest it when it comes. And it comes faster if you first give away what you have. I have SEEN this happen over and over, in our home and others'. If you are in serious need, give something away. Quick. More will soon come to replenish it. People don't give to us because we're the clergy family. We get our turn, but so do other families in the parish. Big parish supper, lots of leftovers? They go to the seminarian, or to the new parents, or to a recently-widowed widower, or to someone else who can "get rid of it." Or I take it to the local homeless men's shelter where the men know I'm just one of them and always make sure I'm OK, too, when I drop things off. Be one of the ones who gives, and very quickly you will be cared for as one of the ones who needs. It's just a matter of taking one's turn in both ends of that dynamic. REALLY. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: GUEST,pattyClink Date: 27 Oct 07 - 08:14 PM Interesting thread, Susan. Sounds like you are three miles ahead of me on stretching food money. Have you already done a thread on 'how we still manage to eat on not much money'? Inflation and other problems have got us really getting serious about cooking dry beans, baking to use up a ton of staples on hand, etc. I got some good ideas from the "Hillbilly Housewife" site, but sheez it takes a lot of forethought to eat decently while broke. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: wysiwyg Date: 27 Oct 07 - 11:53 AM Sounds good. Here's the thing. At our house, professional responsibilities make us WAY too busy, and usually broke. I know we're not alone in that, but even to squeeze in any fun to balance the workside, some important things often get missed. When that happens-- cornbread! Like Hardi's cereal-- he depends on it, and we ran out, and the spare box in the back of the pantry was a different brand, and it was inedible, and he didn't TELL me that before I spent my last $5 till Nov. 1 payday. I also didn't remember to put away yesterday's cooling batch of cornbread, nor to put oats in the crockpot before we went to bed. But the cornbread was FINE, with a little milk and cheese, nuked into a cheesy, porridgy slurry. See? ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: peregrina Date: 27 Oct 07 - 05:04 AM thread drift: or cornmeal distraction. I've been boiling up cornmeal/polenta as a hot cereal. Also cornmeal dumplings in chicken broth. If you like savoury, both are really nice with chives and parmesan. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: mg Date: 26 Oct 07 - 09:46 PM how about spoonbread? Food of the gods. mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: open mike Date: 26 Oct 07 - 09:15 PM i also like to add pimentos, green peppers, and or canned corn to corn bread. There is a great mexican sweet corn pudding which is "delish". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Oct 07 - 04:49 PM Oh, YEAH! With cheese on top! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: jeffp Date: 26 Oct 07 - 04:27 PM I like to break it up into a bowl of chili. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Oct 07 - 04:08 PM We just top it with salsa and chili sauce, thanks. Bulk freezing it, I wait to flavor it till I thaw it. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: jeffp Date: 26 Oct 07 - 03:59 PM You could stir in some chopped green chilies or chopped jalapenos to add a bit of zip. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Oct 07 - 03:45 PM It was indeed edible, non-sweet, and ready to absorb syrup or milk. It did rise "enough," and had good texture. It did need some taste enhancement, but not an adjustment in the actual proportions. A friend of mine had a cornbread that went over VERY well at parish suppers: she simply dropped spoonfuls of cream cheese into the batter before baking, spaced strategically so that each cut piece of cornbread would get one or two pieces of cream cheese. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 26 Oct 07 - 01:54 PM Curious, I looked at pancake mixes at the grocery this morning. Several kinds, esp. in the organic section, and sizes for Lilliputs to those for Goliath. Some looked interesting, but I resisted. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Oct 07 - 01:10 PM So what I did for the first try was: 3 C Buttermilk Pancake Mix 3 C Stoneground Cormneal 3 C 2% Milk 6 Eggs (large) It was a little on the wet side, but it baked up in 30 minutes. I can't tell if it didn't rise "enough" or is just a smaller batch than the "usual," but I am sure it will be edible and may only need a tweak for the next try. And it smells GREAT to have fresh cornbread in the house again! My favorite local grocery store (an IGA run by a total foodie) went out of business and this was what led me to stop getting the very affordable 6-muffin mix boxes. Looks like Mr. Big Ole Pancake Mix will have a happy life in cornbread! ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Oct 07 - 11:37 AM Cornbread is one of those water-soluble, whole-grain-based foods that is very helpful in the management of IBS, as well as having a glycemic index that favors a slower burn than all-white-four carbs. It goes with so many things, and appears in so many cuisines, that we often use it in place of the rice, potatoes, or pasta that would ordinarily accompany many of the meals we like. I'm looking forward to the reduced sugar this mix will offer, because although sweet conrbread is good for some things, I like a lot less sweetening than Hardi does and this option allows us to flavor our servings the way WE like them. For example, I don't tolerate sugars well, so cornbread on the side of BBQ for me is significantly less sugary (both the cornbread toppings and the amount of BBQ sauce) than Hardi's. On a low-cal day, the cornbread is eaten sliced into flat segments, with just a little 2% mlk to moisten it. On a workout day, a tiny bit of butter may be added to the same sized portion. For Hardi, more butter and some maple syrup are added. Cornbread warmed in milk is also a delicious and sustaining breakfast when no one has remembered to fill up the oatmeal crockpot before bedtime. And it's so simple to put it up in large quantities-- I have two matching, large cake pans that each hold about 6 of the little mix boxes and make 36 muffin-size cubes. Once the cornbread has cooled, it takes about 5 minutes to put each panful up for the freezer. I wrap each cube-shaped piece in inexpensive wax paper. This makes it simple to toss a known quantity into a lunch cooler, into the microwave, or under a heat lamp to thaw quickly for supper. HEAT LAMP??? Yes, a fluorescent fixture over the cooktop in our kitchen (rental house) died, and is hardwired in an inaccessible place. So one day for a quick fix we clipped a clamp lamp in that spot that sits over a big piece of cast iron covering a burner that also died. It's still there, 2 years later. Meats and other frozen items thaw there very quickly because the iron absorbs the heat and there's an efficient heat-exchange with anything set on top of the iron that is thinky wrapped. In other words, depending how the clamp-lamp is aimed it produces either direct heat on the item, or onto the iron under the item. I thaw steaks there all the time, as well as the frozen cooked meats that fill our freezer in single-portion-size wrappings. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: Stilly River Sage Date: 26 Oct 07 - 09:53 AM cupcakes are a cake, use cake flour if you have it and more sugar. Muffins aren't as sweet and the batter stirred, not beaten for a ocuple of minutes, so they're a coarser crumb pattern. I like a little sugar in cornbread, but I don't like it super sweet. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: Sorcha Date: 26 Oct 07 - 09:47 AM And I detest sweet cornbread! NO sweetner in mine at all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: GUEST,pattyClink Date: 26 Oct 07 - 09:41 AM whoops, use one T sugar or fructose too! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: GUEST,pattyClink Date: 26 Oct 07 - 09:40 AM I use half cornmeal, half flour (3/4 cup of each) for mine (southern, not cakey). Plus 1 egg, 1T oil and the leavening (those is in your mix, right?) and milk to make one cup of liquid. If it's still stiff, pour in milk til pourable. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: open mike Date: 26 Oct 07 - 04:17 AM i had some muffins recently that had chopped, drained, canned peaches added. yum! and moist... what is the difference between muffins and cup cakes? I like Corn Gems...little corn cob (or other shapes) pans that you bake corn meal cakes in |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: Stilly River Sage Date: 26 Oct 07 - 12:20 AM I think my main cornbread recipe is 1 to 1 on the flour and corn meal. I have one from my cousin with a son who can't eat wheat flour. She uses all corn meal and I think adds creamed corn as well, to help keep it moist. What else can you make from that mix? Maybe some variety of coffee cake (great after school treat, or with enough fruit, an occasional breakfast treat). Muffins. It's mostly flour and leavening with a little sugar and salt, right? Work in some shortening or add melted butter, add an egg, depending on what you want to make. No problem. You could add sugar, but it probably doesn't need any extra leavening; if it's for muffins or coffee cake, I'd add 2/3 cup of plain flour to every 1 1/3 cups of pancake mix to get the right mix of baking powder. (The idea is to get the baking powder down to a level of about 2 tsp per 2 cups of mix and flour. Pancakes usually use 3 tsp for every 2 cups flour). SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: open mike Date: 25 Oct 07 - 11:24 PM we have 3 threads on corn bread recipes here in the not-so-distant past http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=43283#872262 http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=72661#1253558 http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=57460#903467 if you put in buttermilk yogurt or sour cream they rise better. and if you bake in a cast iron skillet that has been heated with oil in it as the oven has warmed, it gets a nice crispy crust outside. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: wysiwyg Date: 25 Oct 07 - 10:05 PM Hm, hard choice: Stand around for hours making messy, messsy waffles that will freeze like crap and be soggy when they thaw.... or whiz up a giant batch of cornbread that will freeze well and thaw even better.... oh, what to do, what to do! :~) ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 25 Oct 07 - 09:47 PM Let us know what happens.It shouldn't be too hard. We often make waffles using pancake mix but haven't experimented. We make cornbread in a skillet, but only limited variance from a standard stone-ground recipe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: catspaw49 Date: 25 Oct 07 - 09:09 PM Geeziz Wyzz.......Why doncha' add some oil and make waffles. Damn near everybody likes waffles!!! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: wysiwyg Date: 25 Oct 07 - 08:33 PM Hm, a bit more cornmeal in Q's version. Gives me a range, anyway, to try. The mix has buttermilk and whey, as well as some oil. Might try Q's proportion but rely on the mix for the rest, except I'll use milk for the liquid since we like the milk to be in it. Mix has some egg, too, so maybe I won't add too much egg either. On the other hand, we like it richly eggy. I know I could make it from scratch, but I want to use up the mix for a large freezer-full of pool food/snack cubes of cornbread, like a muffin per cube. The keep beautifully in the freezer and I only have to clean up once. I guess I'll try a small batch first and go from there. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 25 Oct 07 - 08:22 PM This one uses a lot of flour, so may help. 3/4 cup cornmeal 1/2 cup whole wheat flour 1/2 cup all-purpose flour 4 tsp baking powder 1/4 cup sugar 1 egg 1/3 cup oil "cornbread Southern cornbread uses stone ground meal and very little wheat flour. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: Sorcha Date: 25 Oct 07 - 07:47 PM Doesn't regular cornbread call for 1 cup of flour to a 1/2 cup of cornmeal? I'd try that first. An egg, bit of milk. The rest of the stuff (salt, baking pwder, etc) should already be in the mix. |
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Subject: BS: Cornbread from Pancake Mix From: wysiwyg Date: 25 Oct 07 - 06:35 PM Help! I have a large box of Complete Buttermilk Pancake Mix that I'd like to use to make cornbread. We eat a LOT of cornbread, and I have liked several cornbread mixes, but this big box of Pancake Mix is going to waste. How much ground cornmeal do I add? There is a recipe on the box for whole-wheat pancakes that adds whole-wheat flor, but it's for the whole box and I don't want to make THAT much for the first experiment! ??? ~Susan |
