Eostre Greetings

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: GUEST,Treehugger
Date: 21 Mar 08 - 09:19 AM

Spring is sprung the grass is ris,
I wonder where the birdies is?

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: Jack Campin
Date: 21 Mar 08 - 06:44 AM

Be careful everybody!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7305522.stm

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: jacqui.c
Date: 20 Mar 08 - 10:58 AM

Eostre Greetings to you Bryn. Easter Greetings to those who celebrate the holiday.

Here in Maine it is likely that Spring won't show for a while yet but the rebirth is there, just hidden right now by the snow.

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Mar 08 - 10:10 AM

Some folks need a different hobby, I think. Accept the simple greeting from this person, and return it with your own. Neither should cause offense. One should accept a greeting in the way it was intended.

As to the comments about "neo pagans", I am not sure what that means. I know that I tire of those that seek to remake paganism, and druidism into what they want it to be instead of what it was or is. But those that seek to whitewash the actions of the Christian Church at various times are just as guilty. It makes much more sense to me to celebrate what we have in common, and look for the good in folks. And we need to accept the greetings in the manner that they are offered.

So, Bryn, thanks for the greeting. May you celebrate the joy of the rebirth of life and the hope it holds for all of eternity.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 20 Mar 08 - 09:47 AM

Wasn't it your christian prophet who said 'some fell on stony ground' ?

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: IanC
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 12:51 PM

I responded the way I did basically because the original posting was clearly inaccurate (I don't know anything about modern "neo-pagan" ideas).

Firstly, the vernal equinox was never in the Eostre (easter) month. Secondly, the name Eostre (pronounced Easter) was only ever mentioned historically by Bede and he said a month, not a day was named after her. Thirdly, it seems reasonable to call a goddess Eostre, and worship her if you want, but why give her a nonexistent day in somebody else's month?

:-(
Ian

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 12:43 PM

Must everything on Mudcat elicit this kind of lintpicking? Bryn started this thread as a simple greeting. How about just saying thanks etc. and let it go OR not even post if you just want to start an argument?

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 12:26 PM

You won't tempt me into a row, MMario. Follow your faith, and allow mwe to follow mine.

|Blessed Be

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 11:51 AM

If you object to AD, you could always use Comma Nearer (CE). Remember, Rome wasn't built in AD.

I think it should be renamed Egmas.

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: peregrina
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 11:45 AM

Actually, anno domini dating was given currency by none other than Bede himself.

Previous dating systems reckoned by Roman emperors, local rulers, papal years, indictions and years elapsed from the creation of the world...

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: MMario
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 11:39 AM

If you are not complaining then you appear to be displaying massive ignorance. I assumed it was complaint; if it is ignaorance, so be it.

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 11:35 AM

Complain ? Where, pray ?

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: MMario
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 10:57 AM

Bryn - you adhere to a usage that has almost no documentation, was localized to begin with and has only been resumed in recent decades - but complain about a standard nomenclature used for almost 2000 years over a large percentage of the world?

Strange....

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 10:50 AM

Blessed Be

Khatt, Paul and Harry

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 10:48 AM

Anno Domini ? Which 'lord' ? Whose 'lord' ?

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: IanC
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 09:35 AM

Forgot to say that Bede seems to have been the only person to have called her Eostre, though she has been associated with the wider European name Ostare for a similar goddess.

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: IanC
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 09:33 AM

Bryn

If you read Bede's "On the Calculation of Time", actually written about 720 anno domini (plenty of translations from the latin), you'll find that Hreðmonað, roughly our March, was the month of the Goddess Hreðe. This was followed by Eostremonað.

Basically, the pre-Christian Anglo-Saxons used a solar/lunar calendar and calculated it so that the first day in Eostre's month (Eostremonað) was when the first wisp of the moon showed following the equinox. Thus it will always be later than the vernal equinox in the same way that Easter is.

Bede explains it quite well in his treatise (qv) and since it is the only explanation available, I feel we ought to honour it.

;-)
Ian

btw: having lunar months in a solar year has the interesting effect that no corrections are needed to the calendar ... every now and then they just threw in an extra month in the summer. Fixed.

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: GUEST,Blessedbe
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 08:52 AM

Eloe and happy birthday to Omoe's everywhere.

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 18 Mar 08 - 07:32 AM

All a bit previous here, aren't we? Maundy Thursday's the Equinox; Good Friday's the full moon, and today is Eloe Omoe's birthday...

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: Emma B
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 07:58 PM

Greet the rising dawn

Blessings

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 07:41 PM

Blessed be and welcome Spring!

Thanks, Bryn.

kat

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 07:09 PM

Happy Spring from a place that got 6 inches of snow over the weekend.

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: PoppaGator
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 01:27 PM

Isn't the equinox on a fixed date, or at least much closer to being the same date each (solar) year than the lunar-calendar-based Easter?

Well, whatever you believe, best wishes for all your springtime celebrations!

(Including St Paddy's Day!)

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 09:38 AM

Not all of us, IanC - and what is this "ad" shtik ?

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: GUEST,Cats
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 09:37 AM

Blessed be at Eostre.

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: topical tom
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 09:27 AM

Happy Easter to All!

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: Amergin
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 09:24 AM

No but it can be treated....but the medication has to be taken regularly....and it has hideous side affects....

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: GUEST,PMB
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 09:23 AM

Can venereal equinox be cured?

Subject: RE: Eostre Greetings
From: IanC
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 08:59 AM

Bryn

Eostre was the goddess that Easter was named after. I'm sure she's happy, but since about 980 ad we've all called her Easter.

:-)
Ian

Subject: Eostre Greetings
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 17 Mar 08 - 06:22 AM

To all 'Catters at Eostre (Vernal Equinox):

Joy, Health, Love, Peace and Blessings.

So mote it be.