BS: Membership removal

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 06:21 AM

Me too. Hope Megan won't stay away permanently.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: maeve
Date: 19 Jun 11 - 05:50 AM

Meg asked a simple question, and she eventually got a simple answer...along with a lot of palaver regarding wild guesses supported by unrelated and extrapolated commentary. This must be Mudcat. ;)

Meg, I've missed you and am always happy to read your posts.

Maeve

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Big Mick
Date: 13 Jun 11 - 03:11 PM

The idea that there is some contract here is ridiculous on its face.
This place, indeed most of the internet is the 21st century version of the commons, when it comes to the discussion board aspect. The pre-internet analogy would be the demanding of the removal of all the things you said in the town square from everyone's memory. Bonnie Shaljean said it well. You don't own what you say here (excepting copyrighted material, properly notated) once you post it. It is "in the air".

As to Megan considering leaving, I am not sure what her motivation is but it is hers. The place would be lessened by her leaving though. I wish her well, and further wish she would stay.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Jun 11 - 12:24 AM

Well, if you mean to come back, better to do it as a member - I reinstate memberships very quickly if people ask, and I have an easy-to-remember e-mail address. That way, people can be more assured that you are who you say you are. We've had a lot of impersonation lately, and it's come to the point where all Guest posts are suspect.

-Joe-
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Beer
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 11:15 PM

Stay close Meg. You can just log out and come back and visit as a guest. By visit I mean read the threads.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 02:23 PM

Social Darwinism comes in many forms, all of them wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Megan L
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 02:18 PM

thank goodness McGrath I have been away for a while and wondered how things could be done if needed

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 01:52 PM

I just thought this was just a curious inquiry about the Mudcat on the part of Megan. I'm a bit literal-minded at times.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 01:51 PM

M did take quite a long "break", only posting occasionally foe some months now. I'd hate to see her leave altogether but it's her choice.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 12:08 PM

(((Megan))), I've been thru the membership blues. (Several rounds!) Best approach is just take a break from the Cat-- maybe even a long one-- and consider renaming your membership at some point. And while on break, reflect from your own viewpoint about how to manage your new posts to aim for the results you'd prefer to get from them. In light of your values and what you expect from yourself accordingly. And let the rest go.

All the above is much harder than it sounds, and if you want to correspond my PM box is open. (It can be in email if you don't even want to see Cat-stuff for a bit.)

(I say this in deliberately generic terms, with absolutely no idea what has happened-- I have no dog in the fight.)


Peace,

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 11:21 AM

'Everyone' is not the same, and not everyone follows the same rules and understands the rules in the same way. It has always been the basic policy, as I understood it, to try to apply the rules equitably and fairly.....which obviously involves some judgment calls and 'interpretation'.

One person's notion of an 'insult' 'favoritism' or 'over the line remark' is another's idea of a joke. Joe has always said the he and other mods try to edit as little as possible....and Max has always said that he favors 'almost' no censorship. It ain't easy sometimes.

Like "herding 'cats" comes to mind.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 08:34 AM

Perhaps treating everybody the same, might help?

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: kendall
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 08:17 AM

I'm sorry to see you leave. Is there anything we can do to keep you?

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: GUEST,livey
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 06:20 AM

Owning Content - it's a group discussion board not a networking site. On a networking site you remove your page and your content goes with it, but if you remove yourself from a group discussion board your discussions remain.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 04:29 AM

"Till death do us part" seems a quite reasonable contract to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 03:09 AM

Does that include the expression "Duh"?   I'd be embarrassed if I'd posted something like that, and I'd want it removed at all costs, so that no one ever knew it came from me. ;-) I might even consider hiring some professional rubber-outers to take care of it. Chongo could probably provide contacts.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 02:13 AM

If anyone is worried about "owning" their content, don't post it on an open internet forum in the first place. Duh. Everyone knows from the get-go that it's like putting something on a high street notice-board.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 12:57 AM

Yup. That's the answer. Ask Joe. I'm glad to cancel memberships if that's what people want to do. And no, cancellation of your membership does not remove all of your posts. It just closes off your membership so people can't send you personal messages. If you decide to come back, contact me so I can reopen your old membership.

"Membership" is probably a misnomer, because you don't really "join" anything. You register and tell us who you are, and we give you a cookie that verifies your identity and allows you access to certain features, particularly personal messages and verified identity for posting. Deleting your membership means that you no longer have access to those features. You can post as a Guest, but we require that you continue to post under the same name you used when registered. So, about all that deleting your membership does, is close off your personal messages box.

Deleting your posts would be problematic, because it would tend to make nonsense out of the posts that responded to yours. Of course, if specific posts or a user name contain personal information or might otherwise be harmful to you, we can make arrangements to deal with that.

-Joe Offer-
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Janie
Date: 12 Jun 11 - 12:28 AM

Easy enough to find out, Megan, if the FAQ thread doesn't say. Ask Joe.

Seems to me, and maybe I am mistaken, that instructions for terminating membership have been posted before.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 10:47 PM

I've wondered about that too, Megan.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: bobad
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 06:46 PM

I don't think there is a problem, some people just want to make a statement, that's why they go public.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 06:45 PM

I don't either. The obvious solution is to write to Joe and ask him to delete the membership, unless for some reason one wants to make it a public announcement.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: gnu
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 06:42 PM

Well, if you posted it to a public forum it's in the record. You posted it. You can never take back what you said... on an internut forum or in a letter to the editor of a newspaper or in real life.

I guess I just don't understand what the problem is.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 06:31 PM

Not true. You can't take anything you contributed, with you. That's a bum divorce!

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: gnu
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 06:16 PM

But, one can simply walk away from this here Café. No alimony, no muss no fuss.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 06:13 PM

Quite simple g, every contract should have an escape clause. The ties that bind, can also be untied.
How would you feel if you were still stuck with your "dope", and couldn't get out from under?

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: gnu
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 06:08 PM

Giok... I'm not sure if it is legal, not to have a means of cancelling your membership."

I don't understand why such would be necessary???

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: pdq
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 05:58 PM

More like the ROACH MOTEL advertising the slogan "Roaches Check In . . . But They Don't Check Out!"

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 05:34 PM

"Welcome to the Hotel California... We are programmed to receive,
You can check out anytime you like... but you can never leave"

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 05:19 PM

Well Meg is right, I have noticed this before, and I'm not sure if it is legal, not to have a means of cancelling your membership. Along with the inclusive advantages that conveys (sic)

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: Don Firth
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 05:10 PM

One must do what one must do, I guess, Megan, but I'd really hate to see you go.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: gnu
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 05:05 PM

Or just walk away. No fuss no muss.

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: MartinRyan
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 05:02 PM

Just let Joe Offer know - he carries a giant eraser in his hip pocket. (Well.... I think that's what it is...)

Regards

Subject: RE: BS: Membership removal
From: michaelr
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 04:58 PM

Nooo... you're stuck here. You can never leave... bwwhahahahaaa!!

Subject: BS: Membership removal
From: Megan L
Date: 11 Jun 11 - 04:56 PM

If one no longer wishes to be a member of this site is it possible to remove your membership i have looked around and cant find a way.