BS: Beards and Mudcatters

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: bill\sables
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 07:09 PM

I have had a beard since the early 60's, It only gets trimmed when my wife catches me and ties me to a chair (about once a year)I find that it insulates me against cold in winter and heat in summer.We once had sheep and after lambing we sheared the ewes, the lambs were running about for about two days searching for their mothers.
Bill

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Dorrie
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 06:47 PM

i dont have a beard!But i dont know how they could be said to be sexy!!!?!??! My dad has always had one but says he would shave it off for alot of money - that is probably why they aren't sexy to me becasue all the man in my huge family have one. My ex boyfriend had stubble all the time and he was minging so thats my beard history i hope you enjoyed it

dorrie xx

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 06:29 PM

Had mine for most of the last thirty years. Hot in summer but nice in winter. Does not, by the way, totally eliminate shaving, as the edges are otherwise very scruffy looking. It comes in handy with historical re-enacting (US Civil War period). As a bonus, also hides the fact that my chin has multiplied since I last saw it.

CC

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 03:42 PM

Yup I got one too. Jock

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Kim C
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 02:26 PM

Well, to update my original post here from months ago... Mister did trim the goatee into a nice Vandyke but shaved it all off to be more 18th century fashionable, as we were doing some 18th century events. Makes him look a lot younger but I liked the goatee. He may grow it back when it gets colder.

He's working on that Picard Pompadour, too. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Amos
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 02:03 PM

The Picard pompadour!! A Classic Oxymoron!! Well-turned!

A-who-is-still-guessing-after-6-days

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: SharonA
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 02:03 PM

Oops! In my post above, I meant to say that the OTHER reactor was #1 (#2 was the one with the, um, problem)

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 01:48 PM

During the early Eighties I had a full beard for about a year. Then one Saturday morning my wife made pancakes. The third time I drizzled syrup into the thing, I decided, "Okay, That's it!" and I shaved it off. One year later, my supervisor at work said, "Hey, Don, I just noticed! When did you shave off your beard?" Very alert was my supervisor.

My general hair configuration is clean-shaven, topped with something more or less similar to the Captain Jean-Luc Picard pompadour.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Brían
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 01:19 PM

When I was younger I typically had longer hair and/or a beard. Now I have short hair and no beard. I can blame the short hair on my wife who seems to prefer it that way. I shaved the beard when all the gray started coming in. I find shorter hair is easier to take care of. although my appearance has changed, my values have not. i have been cornered more than once at a party by someone, based on my appearance, tried to inflame a political discussion with me and was surprised to find I was probably more left-thinking than they were.

Travelling incognito,

Brían.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: SharonA
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 01:01 PM

I'm another one of those women who love a mustache and beard on a man. Kisses are lots more fun when they tickle, too! Gimme a man with facial hair, chest hair, down-there hair, and if he's bald I don't care! (I think bald is sexy too)

Stubble, on the other hand, is a no-no: causes rashes for the lady when brushed against her cheek – eek!. Stubble can be dangerous, also; I once had my cornea scratched by chin stubble (true story!).

I once had a boyfriend with a simply lovely set of facial hair *sigh* Then he went to work at a nuclear reactor, and had to shave so his face-mask would seal properly... then I found out he had no chin to speak of! :^( THEN the Three-Mile Island incident happened, and he claimed he was working at the OTHER reactor (#!) at the time, but my theory is that it was his revenge for having been made to expose his chin to the world.

SharonA

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Oaklet
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 09:58 AM

I don't have a beard, but my violin has sprouted grey hair around the chin rest, which gives the impression of being bearded. Anyone else got a hairy instrument? What about a cello with pubes?

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Amos
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 09:41 AM

Well, cellos, now, Vlad, mature veeeeery slowly. So if yours has started puberty it is probably several hundred years old. In fact it may be the first cello in history to have survived long enough to reach adolescence. They go through a period of crankiness and rebelliousness, I understand. Continued application of love and patience and endless tuning will have its rewards, and your cello will mature into a resbectable, balanced bass.

The chin hairs on your violin, however, are a different story. This is an indication that your violin has been seeing someone else behind your back. I suggest counseling.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Oaklet
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 09:29 AM

I don't have a beard, but my violin has sprouted grey hair around the chin rest, which gives the impression of being bearded. Anyone else got a hairy instrument? What about a cello with pubes?

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Gareth
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 07:22 PM

I don't sing folk, I croak it, but many years ago as a comuter up to the City of London from Whitstable, the pain of the Wind cutting off the North Sea in December on raw cheeks prompted me to grow one. Its been off once in the last 30 years. A sponsored, public, shave for the Royal Nation lifeboat Instutute. It hurt but raised over 400 pounds.

now a days - more hair on my chin than my top.

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 06:26 PM

Having read all the aboive, iI am now growing a beard -- 4 days and still guessing -- which will make me, also, look like Sean Connery, and which i hope to be able to wear to a formal event in Bali. Just let me know!!!

A

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Hawker
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 05:39 PM

I do not have a beard, which I believe, being a woman is quite normal. Being dark haired though I am afflicted with the displeasure of having to regularly wax my upper lip, to avoid looking like a male Folkie! My bigger half, K has a beard, moustache AND hairy chest, infact, I have never seen his face naked! I LOVE FACIAL HAIR (on a man!)
Oh, and just for the record, I do not have a hairy chest either!
Lucy

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Mr Red
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 05:08 PM

My view on a beard? In the mirror.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 04:38 PM

Catspaws right you feel CLEAN after a shave, all the bloody beardy buggers I know you can smell them a mile off. Slan Ard Mhacha.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From:
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 02:33 PM

Had the moustache for a LONG time...since spring 1970 when the (US) Army changed its rules about facial hair and our battalion executive officer called all of the junior officers in and told us he didn't want to see any of us with one. The beard comes and goes, but its been on for about 2 years now. Herself says it makes me look like Sean Connery...maybe from the neck up....

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Peg
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 02:01 PM

I like a short, trimmed beard; can't stand long unruly ones a la ZZ Topp.

I am also not wild about weird hair formations except in small doses; seemed like every guy and his brother had to have a goatee in the late 90s...and now college boys doing all this weird experimenting with shaved heads and full beards, mutton chops, Abe Lincoln mustacheless beards, etc,

Also having grown up in an Italian family I don;t find the mustache only look all that attractive.

But a short beard in the Roman style, yes indeed, that often is very flattering on men...not to mention whiskers feel sexy.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: DancingMom
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 01:41 PM

I love 'em, nicely trimmed with a little salt and pepper!Mmmm!Husband used to have one, but had to shave for the Air National Guard. When he finishes this last stint I'll ask him about growing it back. S

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Jim Krause
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 01:13 PM

I threaten to cut mine off, and the look on the Missus' face is enough to make me change my mind. I still like the beard, but I've seen recent pix of myself and I'm starting to look like a geezer. Cut the beard off, and I look like Dear Old Dad.
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: GUEST,Mike Strobel
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 12:19 PM

Yes, I have a full beard for the following reasons.

1) Old hippies never die......we just get lazy.

2) To pi_ _ my boss off.

3) To make my wife amorous.............yea...right

4) To pi_ _ off my employer !!!

5) And most important....I hate shaving !!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: pavane
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 11:05 AM

Mrs Pavane insists I keep it. I'd rather get rid of it, but last time I did was 1983

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 11:02 AM

Beards grow on you after a time.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: smallpiper
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 10:40 AM

Some of us have beards to save the rest of the world having to look at us! Its far to scary when I shave mine off completely - currently sporting half a beard and when I do Mrs Smallpiper won't talk to me! mmmm there's an idea!

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Gervase
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 05:48 AM

Why cultivate on your chops what grows wild and free around your nadgers? :^)
Had a moustache once, but it kept filling up with strange matter, had an aversion to being waxed and eventually went up in flames when I was fire-eating (creating a blister the size of a saveloy in my left nostril). Since then I too have been clean-shaven.
I'm tempted by a beard now that age is catching up and the distinguished grey look appeals, but there are too many bald patches on my face and neck so I look like a scraggy tomcat after a week of not shaving.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 05:29 AM

Odd man out,(no change there then!) clean-shaven, the only time I grew a beard in my teens, when I had chickenpox and couldn't shave, it was such a strange mix of colours I was glad to get rid of it. For years I had muttonchop sideburns/sideboards like Noddy Holder but they're much shorter (and whiter!) now. There is a pink spot growing on the top of my head though, I'll soon look like Brother Cadfael!
RtS

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Chip2447
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 04:26 AM

Joined the Navy at age 18, had to shave twice a day to make it out of boot camp. As soon as I could I grew the moustache back. As soon as I got out of Uncle Sam's yacht club I grew the beard(s). Full, fuller, ZZtop full, mutton chops, fu manchu, goatee and the gay nineties look.
Now a big thick goatee, that is far more salt than pepper. I could probably take years off if I did'nt hate shaving so much.
Beard and long (middle of the back) ponytail...
I would claim to be an old hippie, but I'm not quite old enough to have been a real hippie...

A rather hirsute Chip2447

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 01:20 AM

I have just realised how may of the mudcatters I have met have got beards(Les from Hull,Mr Cobble,Dorries Dad and of course Bill Sables, etc) I have seen the Mudcat photos and beards seem very popular.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Oct 00 - 01:11 PM

Stalin didn't have a beard! He had a mustache.

Now Fidel Castro HAS A BEARD!!! I nominate Fidel as the most classic bearded man of the present era.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Amergin
Date: 20 Oct 00 - 12:03 PM

I have a beard myself. I had a goatee for a while then decided to grow it from sideburn to sideburn. I do shave on the neck though, caue if I don't I look like some barefoot bastard who left his pregnant sister in the Appalachian mountains.....(where my family comes from...)

Amergin

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Terry K
Date: 20 Oct 00 - 03:55 AM

There are photos Liz, but I'm not sure the Internet is ready for such distasteful stuff yet.

Cheers, Terry

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Bugsy
Date: 20 Oct 00 - 03:53 AM

Terry - That company wasn't IBM by any chance was it? I went for an interview with them once and was told that if I wanted to work with them I would have to shave my beard off.

Needless to say, I didn't get the job!

CHeers

Bugsy

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 20 Oct 00 - 03:37 AM

Oh Terry, I'd love to see you avec le fuzz..... and possibly avec le skirt too!!! Such a wonderful mind image that has conjoured, I'm going to be grinning like a maniac all round the zoo today!!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Terry K
Date: 20 Oct 00 - 03:31 AM

I grew my beard when I was 19, as soon as it would grow properly. It was a terribly bohemian thing to do in those days - people would say how brave I was - BRAVE???

Many years later, I worked for an American company in London and was asked to shave it off as it didn't fit the clean-cut American boy image. I was told that I could keep it if I wanted to, but whenever client contact was required, they would send someone else. As at the time my client contacts were in various fun parts of the world, it seemed an appropriate time to shave it off - sold my soul!

When my wife first saw me sans beard, she said "Ugh, it's awful". You have to think a little about the way she phrased that. But only a little. I later left the company (though not the wife) and grew it again.

Then last year I was at a formal function in Bali, for which they had tailored me Balinese evening dress. This consists of a jacket, two skirts and a headband. I was down to "designer stubble" by then but simply couldn't relate wearing both a skirt and a beard so off it came. No, the beard.

I now wet-shave every day and find it quite stimulating, due to the various modern unctions available. How long it will last I don't know.

Cheers, Terry

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Melani
Date: 20 Oct 00 - 02:29 AM

For the record, beards are cool--on guys, anyway. I once had a Frito Bandito paper moustache...

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: GUEST,Mike Ireland
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 05:13 PM

Does anyone have a rough male/female breakdown of the number of people who usually contribute to the Mudcat? (I don't mean lurkers) Cause roughly 80 odd males - oops again I should have said people :-) who use the 'cat' have beards - it must be a high proportion of regulars. I bet many more bearded 'catters' have read the thread and not dipped in. I wonder what this says about the sociological makeup of male 'Catters' or would it be 'Folkies' in general. Have beard will like music etc etc.

I must confess I've shaved three times in 30 years - each time was for a job interview - got the jobs then grew the beard again. Have this one 25 years. My wife says I'm better looking hidden behind the beard.

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: GUEST,John Leeder
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 05:12 PM

I've had my beard without a break since 1967, which is tied for the earliest date I've seen on this thread. My wife has never seen my face clean-shaven (and, happily, has no desire to). I was about 90 pounds lighter in those days, too, so I don't really know what my face looks like now, either.

People at the time assumed it was a lifestyle statement, but it wasn't -- I just hate shaving, and grew a beard as soon as my (then) conservative profession would let me get away with it. (I'm no longer a teacher, nor are teachers as conservative as they used to be...)

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: mousethief
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 05:09 PM

Hee hee hee!

O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: SINSULL
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 05:05 PM

mouse...Behave! or I'll set the 'Cat loose on ya.
Naemie, In the words of Virginia Slims "You're not getting older, you're getting better.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: mousethief
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 05:01 PM

Oh, and Frieda Kahlo...

Alex
O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Naemanson
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 05:01 PM

I have to admit to a certain amount of grey in my beard. I'm not sure where that came from. Aren't you supposed to grey up when you get old? I ain't old. Some of you guys may lay claim to old but hell, I'm only 48 fer cryin' out loud.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: mousethief
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 05:00 PM

... Golda Meir ....

Alex
O..O
=o=

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: WyoWoman
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 04:53 PM

I wax. Yup, just dip my face in that pan of hot wax and eeeeeeeeyouch! Almost as good as Chanteyranger's duct tape condom/bikiniwax combo ...

ww

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: SINSULL
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 04:41 PM

Well, Seamus, it beats having dark on the outside and grey up the middle. Then it might look like a skunk.

Stalin, Rasputin, Blue Beard, Charlie Manson...

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 04:35 PM

Jesus Christ, Santa Claus, Che Guevara, Pete Seeger...

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Irish Rover
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 04:25 PM

No sorry Mousethief that's upper Yah sure!

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: mousethief
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 04:17 PM

I thought it was a person from the cold half of Michigan. Shows how much I know.

Alex
O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Irish Rover
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 04:02 PM

S.O.S. you know spelling errors! a thing uppys care about. Folkys just comunicate.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Naemanson
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 03:56 PM

Uppy?

I've heard of YUPPIES and DINKs. What's an Uppy?

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Irish Rover
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 03:21 PM

I have a beard and handlebar moustach cause I want to! reason 2 uppys shave and are slaves to the establishment I'm not. I am a folky and I like it. 3 Ilike women who like men with beards. with the beard I command respect with out it I'm just another Uppy!

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Naemanson
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 02:05 PM

My wife, now ex-wife, used to say that shaving the beard changed my personality. Any of you encounter that? Feel free to talk to friends and family before replying. This may bring you closer to them.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: selby
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 01:50 PM

I grew a beard because it was a handy place to keep bits of food that missed my mouth then I could rescue them later and keep the hunger pangs off Keith

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: momnopp
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 01:35 PM

Give me a hairy man and I'm a happy woman. . .

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: GUEST,Seamus Kennedy on the road
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 01:23 PM

Had a goatee for 33 years. It covers my triple chins very nicely. It's strating to grey on the outsides, while still dark up the middle, so folks tell me I look like a badger. Seamus

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Mooh
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 12:48 PM

I've taken it off once or twice, and cut it very short a few times but I've had a beard most of my adult life. I've never liked shaving nor the time it took, so now all I do is trim it about once a month. I generally wear it kinda short, but not always. Grooming was never my strong suit. Even the one time I shaved my head I didn't shave my face. I suppose my character is reflected in my grooming habits, and that's just fine. I don't think it has anything to do with my musical interests, except to admit that less time shaving may mean more time musicfying. Hmmm...Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: GUEST,Pete Peterson at work
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 12:41 PM

Clean shaven all my life, so far. I learned that a number of people dislike men with facial hair on sight, and I figured I could give people real reasons to dislike me so why go for the fake ones.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Jim Krause
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 12:15 PM

Cuz it grows there

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 10:30 PM

How about that crazy band ZZTop, with the 2 guys with 5 foot long beards, and the one guy with no beard at all, whose surname is Beard...talk about a weird trio!

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Banjer
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 08:06 PM

I've had my beard since I got out of the Army. I was so damn tired of always adjusting my looks to fit the damn regulations! I swore I would never again be without a beard and I have managed to keep that vow for almost 32 years now! I often get asked how long I have had my beard and my stock answer is that I was born with it, and it tickled the piss out of Momma!

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: rangeroger
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 08:01 PM

I've had a beard since I got out of the Navy in"69.Except for when I went to work at a ski resort in North Idaho in '91. Their dress code forbid beards but did allow me to keep my mustache.It never made sense to me why I should go out into freezing extreme weather with a bare face.

This state of affairs went until someone filed and won a lawsuit against the Hagadone Hospitality Corporation for their ban on beards. Seems they had been headhunting for this guy and really wanted him, but told him after he was hired he would have to shave his beard off.The upshot of it was, I could grow my beard back.Only thing was it came in greyer than it had ever been before.

rr PS. We had a standing joke in our area that Idaho was an acronym for I Do As Hagadone Orders.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 07:46 PM

I have a beard because I have NO chin. The last time I shaved (around 25 years ago) I discovered that my chin had receded to the point where it was right up under my lower lip. I'm afraid to shave again for fear that there would be no chin whatsoever.

Cap't Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Naemanson
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 07:21 PM

I always thought Hesp was female, and I was sure LH was male but then I read the above post where Hesp couldn't grow a decent beard and my confusion grew in leaps and bounds. I'm glad it is clarified.

As I say at the office. Please don't try to confuse me. It is no challenge at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 06:24 PM

Christ! I am sooo embarrassed!!! We have been rolling around on the floor here, laughing to the point of sheer total idiocy and hyperventilation. I can't keep up with this damned cookie business. The fact is, Hesperis is even less capable than I of growing a beard, which is not surprising. She has trouble even growing a full mustache.

Now I DO know who starts these stupid rumours...I do, by forgetting to change the flippin' COOOKIE!!!

Sheeesh.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: hesperis
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 06:16 PM

Little Hawk.......!!!!!!!!!

GET OFF MY COOKIE!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 05:42 PM

So the irony lessons are working out huh?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: hesperis
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 05:24 PM

Spaw - I have suspected for some time that we were kindred souls...now it is confirmed.

I like to shave. It feels neat afterward, and looks clean.

And like you I am incapable of growing a decent beard. It comes in all motheaten and full of holes...a truly wretched excuse for a beard. Not that I ever wanted one anyway...I always liked Romans and Indians, and they generally did not have beards at all, with a few exceptions, like Agrippa.

I also heard once that all serious Dylan fans are middle-aged guys with beards. Not true!!! No beard on me, and I'm as serious a Dylan fan as you can find anywhere. I don't know who starts these stupid rumours...

So, Spaw, you are not the odd man out. I'm right there with you.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: bflat
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 05:22 PM

Liz, like you,I like hairy chests...oh,baby. But the truth is never had one to mess with. I can't believe I'm being so vulgar at 5:23edt. It isn't even the cocktail hour.

bflat

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Kara
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 05:00 PM

I have no beard and never have had.My Dad always had one so it's not hereditary.
Kara

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Ely
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:53 PM

What?! How can anyone resist a handlebar moustache??

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: StandingBear (inactive)
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 03:28 PM

Liz, you like a beard? I am surprised that there are so many women that do. My wife is so ambivalent; she can't decide whether she can get used to one or not. Planning on growing one back anyway. I have run the gamut, from goatee and shiny bald head to middle-of-the-back long hair and a full beard. One of my favorites is the Wyatt Earp look, the HandleBar. She can't stand it. Oh well, I can put up with her grumbles a lot longer than she can put up with the handlebar. Razors suck.

Peace on you,

'Bear

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Ely
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 03:12 PM

I don't have a beard, either, but I'm sure I would if I were a guy (I'm lazy enough--I once went six years without a haircut. Really bad idea. 1 1/2 inch split ends).

My dad's had a beard for 30 years. He had to shave it once to wear a gas mask while doing field work for his employers and my mother was so bothered by it she wouldn't speak to him until it grew back. He's a handsome guy but doesn't have quite enough chin, so he looks better in a beard.

Personally, I like beards. I guess it ultimately depends on the guy, but I've always been a fan of facial hair.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 10:38 AM

being 'divorded' sound ominous to ME!....why, I'd probably rather be divorced!

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 09:42 AM

I've had the full set for close on 30 years and would be instantly divorded if I removed it. There's a lot of 'silver in the stubble' these days, but as they say

" A kiss without a beard is like an egg without salt"

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: LR Mole
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 09:36 AM

I've worn a beard since 1971, which fact once caused a student to observe, "Your beard is older than I am".Thanks, I thought. I shave a razor-width between sidetap and 'stache every day to pretend I'm groomed, but I'm probably the only one who notices. It also reminds me of a friend's father, a fine old Dane, who passed before I could get to know him better, and who razored the same vertical space.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Patrish(inactive)
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 06:55 AM

I used to have a beard in my handbag, it was made of 100% nylon, which was extremely good for chafing faces. I did not wear it permanently, only when requested. It seem a little strange now to think about it. I will have to look out for it and wear it at the next UK gathering.
Patrish

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: MudGuard
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 06:31 AM

I wear a beard since I finished my army duty - I am just too lazy to shave (apart from the danger I am in if I use a sharp knife in my face before getting really awake).

I think about changing my Mudcat name from MudGuard to MudBeard.

MudGuard/MudBeard

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 06:02 AM

So that's another strange thing I share with 'Spaw!
My beard is also a strange mixture of colours so I shave. Plus I don't want to obscure this noble profile, this peaches and cream complexion... (I can get away with this as I haven't posted a Mudcat photo!)
RtS

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Amergin
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:01 AM

Maybe you're right, Spaw....but there's only one way to find out:

OASIS SUCKS!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: GUEST,Mike Ireland
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 03:38 AM

Ref above from Praise.

So when she woke after the operation someone had written on her inner thigh - sorry I had to mow the lawn.

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 03:01 AM

!!!!!

Naemanson, it took me two posts to see why you would say that hair is God-given! LOL!!! Really got me there!

Troll, THANK YOU, best laugh all day... that [better not to know] line, LOL!!

Rich, anecdotes? How 'bout a joke? Green haired punk rocker girl goes into hospital for an appendectomy. Goes under the anesthetic. They find she's dyed her southernmost, umm, beard... thatch??... green as well.

Sorry, you'll hafta PM Hardiman to get him to post the punchline. I'm a lady! No thanks to him!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 02:19 AM

Oooooooooo all these hairy men, so few airmiles.....

I love beards, all beards, any beards, just love em.... only ever been out with 3 guys who didn't have beards, and that's cos 1 was only 15 and at a posh public school (first love, ah..... sob sob....), 1 was completely bald (but oh, what a hairy chest....) and the other was a toy boy who was still on the bumfluff.....

Chests are my other thing. Hairy chests. It's all Sean Connery's fault. Saw him in Thunderball when I was 11 and just never felt the same about chests again.....

And no, it isn't because I have one. Ask Skipjack....

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 01:52 AM

Wait a minute...back there did 'Spaw apologize for being weird? Isn't that like winter apologizing for being cold?

Actually, 'Spaw, I know what you mean about shaving. I grew a beard when I moved to Oregon in 1982, because I wanted to look like an Oregonian. Shaved it in 1989 when I did a singing workshop with Susan Osborn and it felt like I was entering a new age. (Little did I know...) During the next few years I used a shaving brush and Kiss My Face soap in a Mexican mug, which probably had lead in it so I didn't drink from it. I really enjoyed that ritual.

The beard came back when I moved back to Oregon in 1991 after getting married. Then after one of our first really bad fights I decided to shave it as a symbol of my determination to be a new person (back when I was still convinced that all the troubles in my marriage were my fault). Only thing is, I had a two-year-old daughter at the time, who spent the next 3 days going around saying "Daddy scared me!" During that time, though, I made my first and only entry onto the stage.

Now, though I live in a place where it's usually between 70 and 85 degrees year round, I'm still hairy, though all the reddish threads among the brown have turned white. And in case you missed it, that was an oblique reference to an old song, thus qualifying this as a musical thread. So there.

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Jimmy C
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 01:34 AM

I grew a full beard when I was 24 and have had one ever since, although it's now a goateee. (helps eliminate some of the whiteness). At my wedding( 32 years ago) an aunt of my wife threatened to boycott the mass because I looked like a hippie, she would only attend if I was clean shaven. She sure missed a great wedding.

I don't know why I originally grew one, I may have been under the influence of "The Dubliners" at the time and being a banjo player I wanted to look like a folksinger, although even without the music I suspect I still would have grown one.

I did shave it off about 7 years ago but my wife insisted I grow it back, which I did.

There was story about George Bernard Shaw who was shaving one day and a young boy asked him why he shaved, he apparently could not give the child an answer, so he threw the razor away and never shaved again, I believe this is a true story but cannot vouch for it.

My beard is as much a part of me as my hands, eyes and ears, I guess I'll just keep it.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Hotspur
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 12:17 AM

My dad has practiced a semiannual ritual ever since i can remember: At the autumnal equinox, he starts growing a beard for the winter months. On his birthday, April 13 (or sometimes on the vernal equinox if he's feeling lazy) he shaves it off for the summer. Cool in summer, warm in winter--makes perfect sense to me, although the first time I see him after he shaves is usually a bit of a shock, and makes me think of Mr. Pickwick...

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: sophocleese
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 11:45 PM

Well I've never had a beard but at the age of 30 I decided to have a Mohawk cut. So I spent a summer shaving my head, not an electric razor by the way, and learning to do it by touch without looking in the mirror. One day I decided that since I never bothered to shave my legs why the hell was I wasting time shaving my head. So I grew my hair back. I sympathize with anyone who grows a beard because they hate shaving.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Troll
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 11:30 PM

I have a goatee. It is mostly white. I grew it because I wanted to and if I ever decide to shave it, I will.
My Wife complained about it so in 1996 I shaved it off as a Christmas present. She doesn't celebrate Christmas but I do. Anyhow, two days later she asked me to grow it back because "You don't look like you". She never did say who the hell I looked like and I never asked. There are some things that it's just better not to know.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Naemanson
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 11:12 PM

Hey Sinsull, life has to include the occasional adolescent groping. And what is Ambien?

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 10:44 PM

lessee if this will work...Ferrara (Rita) & I were at a wedding Sunday, and I posted pics of it....if this LOOOONNNGGG link works, here I am with wife and muttonchops!...(I have tried several times to let it ALL grow, but there is one area that wont grow right and looks lop-sided, so I started doing this 30 years ago...),,,and just in the last year have even quit cutting hair...and THIS is the first time I have worn this suit in 10-15 years!

Bill D and grey whiskers

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: ddw
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 10:09 PM

Rather attached to a beard myself. Grew my first one in 1964 after I got the OK from my squadron exec, but the squadron commander made me shave it as soon as my leave was over.

Grew it again in 1966, shaved it off for one day in 1968 (I was in a weddng party and the bride's mother told me it looked "dirty") and I've had it ever since. My wife has a fit if I threaten to shave it off — which I sometimes do because it's mostly white now and makes me look my age.

david

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Bugsy
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 09:40 PM

I've always had a beard (since I was 20 that is) but just recently I've had this strange yearning to start shaving again, but the wife told me she'd leave me if I got rid of the beard. So I'm continuing to shave the head daily instead. Boy it feels good!

CHeers

Baldy

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 09:31 PM

Gee, I'm glad you shaved harpgirl. I hate to see a woman deemed unrecognizable by facial hair. I've seen your picture and you must have done a good job on the electrolosis........Now if you looked liked somebody, say maybe Kendall, who looks like a complete goof, then maybe the beard would be OK, although the photos of Kendall with a beard aren't much improvement. If he had a cigar in his mouth, he'd look like Lassie taking a dump.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 09:22 PM

I usually star a beard in late September and save in April. It just seems to got that way. During the summer I might get lazy and go a little while without shaving. The one big exception is I pretty much always shave fo funerals and viewings. (Sure enough, if I have to shave in January or February for a funeral I know it's gonna get 10 degrees colder and the wind's gonna blow harder than it had been all winter.) A friend of mine a couple years ago saw me clean-shaven and asked "Who died?". It was intended as a joke but I had actually been to see somebody laid out earlier that day.

Ok, enough morbid stuff. Somebody tell a nice beard anecdote.

Rich

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 07:21 PM

I never grew a beard. I just stopped shaving and the hair kept growing. Sometimes I trim bits off the end.

Nobody ever seems to ask why people grow hair on the top of their heads instead of shaving it off every day. Some people do just that, and good luck to them, but most of us don't.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Nathan in Texas
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 07:12 PM

I wear a beard because it makes me look like a folksinger. Same reason I wear a Greek Fisherman's Cap.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Rollo
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 07:04 PM

Men with beards have to hide something, they say. Well, I hide my double-chin. and you?

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: harpgirl
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 06:55 PM

When I was 46, I grew a beard. Had it for 20 years, then shaved it. People now tell me I look 20 years younger, so, guess I'll shave more often. Now I can go anywhere without being recognized, that is provided I dont speak.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 06:44 PM

Hey Amerigin....As I said in a lot of places, Meebo is gone for good. No more Mbo/no more Meebo. Matt_R shows a lot of enthusiasm, but more maturity and if you check his posts, I think you'll agree. Let's let Meebo go wherever little kids go and welcome Matt_R.........Whaddaya' think?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 06:41 PM

Many years ago while visiting Italy I couldn't help noticing the preponderance of neatly trimmed noustaches among the natives. On remarking on this to my companion she said that secretly they really wanted to be like their mothers ...

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 06:31 PM

I went for electrolysis


Little Neo

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Amergin
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 06:01 PM

Guest, Michael Ireland, you said you got this idea from looking at Alison's pictures from home.....are you saying she has a beard?

Matt R, forgive me if I missed something on another thread or anything (I haven't been on much in the last few days, 12 hour shifts and sleep....), but you wouldn't be the recently departed Mbo by any chance would you?

Amergin

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 05:57 PM

Jolen is bleach. If you saw "A Fish Called Wanda", Wanda, in the bathroom, has white stuff on her upper lip just before going to meet the judge - that's Jolen. Women got the joke more than men. Most of us wouldn't bother just for anyone.

Naemie,
It took me two weeks to get over Spaw's adolescent gropings and now THIS! And I'm out of Ambien.
More irony.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Rex
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 05:53 PM

Alright, I had to jump in when I saw this. When Allen and Bill stayed at EJ's during their Mudcat Adventure this Summer, I came by and after we had been visiting and playing tunes for awhile someone noticed. All the guys had hairy faces. At least for the small group there, it seemed natural. And like I've always heard, proper men always wear beards.

Rex, running for cover

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 05:45 PM

Seemingly, as usual, the odd man out...............I don't have a beard. Two reasons. first, hard as this may be to believe, I LIKE to shave. I always feel clean, its kinda' invigorating, just have always enjoyed the feel. I'll go a couple of days sometimes and then its really enjoyable. Yeah, I know.....weird. Sorry.

Reason TWO: By all odds I have the shittiest looking beard on the face of the planet although there may be something living underground that looks worse. Its very uneven, being heavy in some spots and light in others and it all grows at vastly different rates. Then there's the colors....that's plural...as in brown, blonde, red, black, and of course now gray. The times I've tried the beard thing, I feel greasy and look shitty. Not my bag at all.

The rest of you all seem to look Ok except for the girls, and I'm sure a few of them may have a better looking beard than I do.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Matt_R
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 05:40 PM

'S truth Brett. When I don't shave (which is frequently) and my hair is long (long by my standards is not the same as yours! Long in my book is when my USMC regulation high & tight has grown if for a month) I look like an OLD guy! Like someone's history professor or something. But then when I DO shave, trim the goatee down really short, and get my head buzzed, I look like I'm 16-year-old kid again (which isn't so bad, it was only 5 years ago!). Just something about being follicsome...

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Kim C
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 05:34 PM

Mister has a goatee-type half-beard, a style that was popular during the Civil War. He looks quite smashing with it. Lately he is entertaining the thought of trimming it down to a Buffalo Bill-type thing. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: hesperis
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 05:29 PM

SINSULL - you are getting GOOD at this irony stuff!

I have no beard. A very slight almost invisible moustache, but I don't think anyone but me has ever noticed it before it was pointed out to them.

hesperis, being serious.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Naemanson
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 05:26 PM

My beard makes me look older when it's long but younger when it's trimmed short.

I have it on good authority that women like the feeling of the beard rubbing on their thighs and belly.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 05:23 PM

You put Nair on your banjo? What's Jolen?

Alex
O..O
=o=

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 05:17 PM

BU - You once said you just lost 100 lbs. When you shaved the beard?

Beards and banjos are sexy. Mine isn't. I keep it under control with Nair and Jolen.
Mary, still practicing irony.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: MMario
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 05:15 PM

My beard varies with the seasons of the year and the centuries. Of course the century I live in varies with the season of the year, so that makes sense. Currently pretty complete beard, the chin will be going naked shortly leaving me with muttonchops connected with a mustache. January will see the sideburns vanish, goatee return. August the goatee expands to cover most of the face.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: InOBU
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 04:59 PM

Well, I've had a beard for over 25 years. The other day, I was asked to pose for an advertisement for glasses for SENIOR CITIZENS! I'm in my effin fourties! The beard is white, ya see... so I did the add, then out came the razor. My wife had only seen me once without a beard. She laughed for several days, however I now look much younger, not an intirely good thing, but also folks think I have lost wieght - because they no something is different but cant place it, and in the US looseing weight is good, while an elderly friend from the slums of Limmerick thinks I have gained wieght, becuase gaining wieght looks healthy when you are from the old slums of limmerick... So, well, for what it is worth, I suppose I will have to send in a new mudcat photograph...
Larry

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Haruo
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 04:48 PM

I've had a beard off and on for years. Sometimes full, sometimes short, sometimes with big 'burns, sometimes not, sometimes with moustache like here, sometimes w/o. At the moment I have a fairly long tuft on my chin, but shaved cheeks and lips; I'm told I look "Quaker" or "Almost Amish". On the other hand, in this photo from 1892 I had huge sideburns but a shaved strip in the middle where the beard now is. There's a noticeable but not predominant amount of grey in it, whereas my head hair is almost 100% the colour of youth.

Liland

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: CarolC
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 04:31 PM

Midchuck,

You have to be careful about those hairy ass references. I once made a wisecrack about a guy's hairy ass (which I had not actually seen, myself). He looked shocked and surprised and protested that he did not have a hairy ass.

Carol

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 04:19 PM

Red goatee here...had it for about 2 years, because I though it would look cool. My Mom disagreed, my Dad thought it looked cool...but Mom won't let him grow one(!). Had the moustache since um...when I started growing one (like 13 or something)...only shaved it off 2 times in the last 9 years (for 2 week interval both times). I twist it on a regular basis the keep it looking regal.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Sean Belt
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 04:15 PM

When I'm acting a role that requires me to be clean-shaven, I shave it off. Then as soon as the play closes, partner Amy gently demands I grow it back. She likes the look of it and as it's gotten more and more grey over the last few years, I find that I like it better, too.
- Sean

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: MK
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 04:08 PM

I just like the look of it and have always instantly regretted it whenever I've been stupid enough to shave it off....although having it makes me look about 5-7 years older than I actually am, and it's all salt and peppery at this point. I agree with Clinton that it also cuts down on shaving time. The bitchingest part of having one for me, is when trimming it, trying to get both sides to match up evenly. On those occassions where I totally mess it up (never trim it when you first wake up in the morning) I just walk around with my head cocked slightly to one side for a few days. *BG*

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 04:06 PM

For the record, I don't have a beard- or even a moustache.

When my daughter was 4, she told her uncle: I'm glad I'm not a boy. He asked, Why? Being a boy is better than being a girl! She explained: They can get a moustache, you know.

Ebbie (female)

Subject: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 03:59 PM

When my beard started to turn grey, it turned bristly, and my ex-wife said it was like kissing a dog. She also objected because it smelled like cigarette smoke. Now it's more white than grey, and I don't smoke, and I'm not married- so I grew a beard a year ago, and I like it.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 03:23 PM

Cultivate? Who has to cultivate it? It grows wild everywhere. Do you cultivate Kudzu?

Alex
O..O
=o=

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Midchuck
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 03:21 PM

Whenever I see a guy with a beard who hasn't had one previously, I always ask, "Why do you cultivate that stuff on your face when it grows wild on your ass?" It's a worn-out line, but I've never gotten a good answer.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Naemanson
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 02:59 PM

I first grew a beard after I crossed the Arctic Circle the first time in 1972. I had the idea at the time that I had to earn the right to grow a beard and sailing a Navy ship along the Northern coast of Norway seemed like a good reason. The only times I have shaved it since then was for the year I worked for the USINS and once in college on a whim.

The other time was early on in my relationship with the woman who would become my wife. We were living together and she had gone to bed before i got home. As I stood in the bathroom I made a snap decision to shave and see what I looked like. I then went to bed. In the morning my wife-to-be turned over, looked in my direction and shrieked. She was in bed with a stranger. I never shved again until I went to work for USINS. They required a clean shaven face and I had to comply.

Why? Too lazy to drag a blade over my face. Or maybe it's because God put that hair there. Who am I to take it off?

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 02:56 PM

I wear a beard primarily because I'm lazy (which is the same reason I wear my hair very short). It helps that it's rather traditional in my religious subculture.

Alex
O..O
=o=

Subject: RE: BS: Beards and Mudcatters
From: Clinton Hammond2
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 02:49 PM

Having a beard beats hell out of dragging a sharp blade across my face every day like some ancient Roman poof...

And well, quite franky, without it I break out like a teenager...

{~`

Subject: Beards and Mudcatters
From: GUEST,Mike Ireland
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 02:45 PM

Having looked at some of the mudcat users photographs, and Alisons photos from home. It caused me to pause and think?????

How many mudcatters have beards? Men that is, well in this age of equality - people? Is it only folkies that grow them - to tired in the morning to shave after a long night playing music and other night time things?

Come on own up - whats you view on beards.

Mike

Alison I've dropped you an email and you did get Billys name correct.