BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: Peg
Date: 21 Jun 01 - 02:00 AM

blessings at solstice, all; light candles, not bulbs!

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Jun 01 - 09:11 PM

Merry Solstice Eve, everyone!! I think we should except Spaw's hospital from the blackout, whaddya say?**BG**

luvya'll

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: mousethief
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 04:13 PM

Sorry, IGY was 1957-8. Another one of those things you've known all your life, only to find it's wrong.

Alex

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: mousethief
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 04:07 PM

Historical footnote: The beginning of summer was set at the solstice during IGY in 1959. Before then there was no universal or official understanding of when "summer" starts.

Alex

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: CarolC
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 03:46 PM

I don't know, Doug R. But if he loses the support, or at least the cooperation, of his republican allies in California with regard to energy, it could make it difficult for him to continue with the energy platform he has been advocating up until now.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 03:41 PM

According to THIS SITE, what follows is why it is called "Midsummer" at the beginning of what we know as "Summer"

Although the June solstice marks the beginning of Northern summer, it is often called midsummer. In traditional Gaelic culture the summer solstice represented the mid-point between the commencement of the Celtic summer on May 1 and autumn on August 1.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 03:18 PM

Almost time, thanks for refreshing this, everyone.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: DougR
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 03:11 PM

Carol C: you don't think for a moment that GW has a prayer of winning the support of the democratic California delegation anyway, do you? Regardless of what he does.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 03:02 PM

Joe, I didn't think this was a Mudcat topic; you know I usually stick to songs here. And re the "all time zones" there are other items in the message which are mostly relevant to the US.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: CarolC
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 02:53 PM

Some possible good news on the way...

The constituency of California's Congressmen and women is making their displeasure with the price gouging practices of the wholesale suppliers known to their local politicians.

Since documents are surfacing that demonstrate that the energy crisis is not the result of a real supply shortage, but instead, of anti-free market (but legal) manipulation of supply, as well as price gouging at the wholesale level, and because voters are becoming savvy to the situation, even the republican politicians of California may soon have to give in to pressure to advocate putting caps on wholesale prices. That should go a long way toward easing the energy crunch in California.

And if and when that happens, G.W. will be out on that anti-price control limb all by himself (with regard to California). Not an enviable place to be, considering how many delegates California has.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: Allan C.
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 02:23 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Jun 01 - 05:24 PM

Two Mudcatters sent me copies of the same e-mail on this subject in the last hour. I appreciate the informatin, but once is enough. Maybe at times it's better to communicate by Forum message instead of duplicating mass mailings?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: Midchuck
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 05:27 PM

CamiSu, you mean to tell me you're a Vermonter and you don't have a .22 rimfire or even a high-pressure BB gun?

For shame.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: Dharmabum
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 04:49 PM

This won't be any trouble for me seeing as I'll be camped at Old Songs that night. But I'll be sure to unplug all the appliances before I leave home.

DB.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: CamiSu
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 04:19 PM

Except I may leave the fences on....I'd hate to have a coyote decide it's safe to get a lamb. Oh, dear! We are SO dependant.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: CamiSu
Date: 09 Jun 01 - 04:17 PM

Well, it's about time to revive this. I just wish I could get the people across the way to turn off their light on the side of the house. It is on ALL NIGHT and shines into my bedroom... and it makes it hard to watch meteor showers, I agree...

CamiSu

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: Jande
Date: 25 May 01 - 02:44 PM

And I received it from Hesperis... heheh... and passed it on to other forums.

~ Jande

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: hesperis
Date: 24 May 01 - 11:30 PM

Interesting. I received this from Dance circles... There's probably a dance to go to at that time, anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: Gypsy
Date: 24 May 01 - 11:08 PM

Mudlark, ye need chickens...i HATE earwigs! Oh yeah, on sundays, usually outside, don't use electricity in daylight hours, 'cept for the well.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: Mudlark
Date: 24 May 01 - 07:10 PM

Great idea, Kat...will send it on.

Actually, I do this every night, now that summer is here. I am inundated w/earwigs and they are drawn to the light, yet it is so hot during the day the only way to cool the house is to open everything at dusk when the temp. finally drops. The only way to avoid the rivers of earwigs that pour thru the front door, kitchen window, etc. is to leave all the lights off. Candles don't seem to attract...and it is great light to sing by.

Mudlark

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 May 01 - 11:37 PM

G'Day, Bob and thanks for that reminder. If I knew the orgin of the email I'd remind them, too!

katpleasedon'tshootthemessenger:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 23 May 01 - 11:35 PM

G'day Kat,

THE FIRST DAY OF SUMMER
JUNE 21, 2001 THURS EVE,

7-10pm worldwide, all time zones

Of course, around here it will be the 21st day of winter ...

Regards(les)s,

Bob Bolton

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 May 01 - 02:01 PM

Great idea! I can turn the night light back on for the boys after 10, they can creep in the dark, and learn from it! Make sure this gets refreshed around then... somebody... please?

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: GUEST,MeteorShower
Date: 23 May 01 - 01:54 PM

And let's lobby our cities | towns | highway departments | counties | municipalities to turn THEIR lights out on any night when there's liable to be a good meteor shower. Even in a small town I have to go miles in the country to get to dark. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: UB Ed
Date: 23 May 01 - 01:33 PM

LMAO Danny Boy!

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: GUEST,UB Dan
Date: 23 May 01 - 12:31 PM

What if we change the timing to 11PM - 6AM and turn off all the lights, tv, and even all cooking equipment...and lets do this every night...

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: mousethief
Date: 23 May 01 - 11:51 AM

What about if I roll in my sweet baby's arms? She's my own, so to speak, and we can make great electricity together.

Alex

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 23 May 01 - 11:37 AM

I look forward to rolling my own at solstice every year!

*singing*
"Pass the duchie on the left hand side..."

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: LR Mole
Date: 23 May 01 - 11:35 AM

I fear, though, that were we to station a watcher in Washington, the lights would remain on. And there'd still be nobody home.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 May 01 - 10:13 AM

Good point, UB Ed. I suspect they set it for those hours thinking most people would be home from work and not knowing how many phoaks would be able to get their companies to go along. Although, wouldn't it be lovely if they did? It's being forced on them, too, so one would think they'd be open to it, at least in some parts of the world.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: UB Ed
Date: 23 May 01 - 08:48 AM

Neat idea, but it seems the timing may be a bit off. I'm thinking 4 p.m. to 9 p.m. may be more relevant for the power companies to notice.

Ed

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: Gypsy
Date: 22 May 01 - 11:25 PM

We do that every sunday, only it is from dusk to about 1AM. Electric instruments need not apply to our weekly jam session. Light loads of candles, and make food in advance. The only cheat is using the microwave in the summer to make tea (winter it is on the woodstove)

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: DougR
Date: 22 May 01 - 07:16 PM

If you don't take it there now, Alex, you might forget. I'm for your taking it there now. This instant! Of course there is the time zone to think about ...oh, this is getting too complicated!

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 22 May 01 - 06:23 PM

Great, Kat. Do not under estimate the power of symbolic protests.

Knowing how wiley George Dubya is, I wouldn't doubt that he would join in. He has already proven that he will say just about anything, as long as the quo remains status.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: mousethief
Date: 22 May 01 - 06:05 PM

How 'bout if I just put it there now? Sure would save a lot of worry (what if I put it there at 7:05? etc.).

Alex

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: DougR
Date: 22 May 01 - 05:51 PM

Take your flashlight under the stairs, Alex, but don't turn it on.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: mousethief
Date: 22 May 01 - 05:44 PM

Hmm. June 21. 7pm to 10pm. There *IS* no darkness in Seattle at that time, except maybe under the stairs.

Alex

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 May 01 - 05:40 PM

In our dreams, DougeRdarlin':-) Actually I don't know if this will matter one whit to the simpleton, but at least people will feel as though they are doing something AND, if enough participate, so the energy companies should at least notice.

Sure beats the alternative of getting sucked in by all of the insidious ads proclaiming such horrid crises and how to leverage 45,000 barrels of oil per day! Or, get sucked in by the same ads and headlines and feel there is nothing an individual can do.

I agree, Jenellen.

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: DougR
Date: 22 May 01 - 05:31 PM

Gee, kat, my dear, you really know how to hurt a president, don't you? Somebody should station him/herself outside the White House to see if he participates. Think he will? :>)

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: JenEllen
Date: 22 May 01 - 05:28 PM

Why wait? That sounds like pretty good advice for any day...

Subject: Roll Your Own Blackout - Summer Solstice
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 May 01 - 05:24 PM

I think this is a grand idea, scheduled for Summer Solstice. I just received it in my email. Here it is, in its entirety:

ROLL YOUR OWN BLACKOUT
THE FIRST DAY OF SUMMER
JUNE 21, 2001 THURS EVE,

7-10pm worldwide, all time zones

As an alternative to George W. Bush's energy policies and lack of emphasis on efficiency, conservation and alternative fuels, there will be a voluntary rolling blackout on the first day of summer, June 21 at 7pm - 10pm in any time zone (this will roll it across the planet).

Its a simple protest and a symbolic act. Turn out your lights from 7pm-10pm on June 21. Unplug whatever you can unplug in your house.

Light a candle to the Sungoddess, kiss and tell or not, take a stroll in the dark, invent ghost stories, anything that's not electronic -have fun in the dark.

Read the 1999 book "Natural Capitalism" by Hawken and Lovins to learn that conservation/high efficiency technologies already ARE on-the-shelf. If implemented these revolutionary ideas would pay themselves off within five years, after which we'd be pumping far less greenhouse gas into the atmosphere and saving bucks to boot.

Forward this as widely as possible, to your government representatives and environmental contacts.

Let them know we want global education, participation and funding in conservation, efficiency and alternative fuel efforts -- and an end to over-exploitation and misuse of the earth's resources.

Anyone knows that the Cheney-Bush team is blowing smoke when they tell us that "... conservation can't help, it'll just be too expensive to implement those technologies..." While on the other hand, technology to develop and deploy weapons to blow incoming ICBMs out of the sky are easy to come by.