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Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?

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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 25 Jun 01 - 04:24 PM

The only one which has a nearly totally nonsense chorus is Bodachan a Mhirein.


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 25 Jun 01 - 04:23 PM

I beg to differ. Most of the puirt that I am familiar with are NOT nonsense syllables.

However, the words are real in most cases, but the sentence doesn't make much sense.

For a few of them, look at my web-page on puirt. It's near the bottom of the Gaelic Songs Page


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jun 01 - 02:28 PM

Undine; I do think that some of the recordings do have set words, but it's the sounds that are important, not the meaning.


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 25 Jun 01 - 01:49 PM

Second the motion on the School of Scottish Studies recordings. A tremendous project spanning over 40 years, recording traditional singers and instrumentalists, and those recordings are readily available to the public.

Another excellent CD of Gaelic singing that contains some mouth music is Catherine-Ann MacPhee, "Canan Nan Gaidheal." A powerful singer and great selection of songs.

-chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: GUEST,Undine
Date: 24 Jun 01 - 02:53 PM

oops...links by Malcolm (sorry, Malcolm)! -u


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: GUEST,Undine
Date: 24 Jun 01 - 02:11 PM

Thanks to you all for the suggestions...however, I hadn't known that mouth music was merely nonsensical syllables being sung in rapid, repetitive fashion...had thought there were actual words being sung. I'll check out the links George (thank you, George) provided, but if anyone knows of anything else about the singing itself (i.e., history, occurrence in other cultures), please expound. most grateful, -u


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: hesperis
Date: 24 Jun 01 - 10:53 AM

Ah! Thanks for the explanation, folks.


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 24 Jun 01 - 10:48 AM

The subject comes up here from time to time.  Here are a few of those previous discussions which include further information and useful links:

Mouth Music or any Gaelic songs
Mouth tunes
Song Style?
Lilting
mouth music

Be warned, though; some posts repeat the myth that the Wicked English somehow contrived to ban all sorts of musical instruments in Scotland, most particularly the bagpipes.  Never happened, though it's true that local Scottish clergymen (both Catholic and Protestant) sometimes blackmailed their flocks into giving up "the devil's music".  Of course, mouth-music is not peculiar to the "Celtic" nations, being known in almost every traditional culture.

So far as recordings are concerned, I'd particularly mention the School of Scottish Studies'  Scottish Tradition  series, which includes a lot of Gaelic material recorded from traditional singers.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: Brían
Date: 24 Jun 01 - 09:56 AM

Mouth music is generally is nonsense words or syllables sung by unaccompanied voice to dance tunes. It is sometimes called lilting or diddling. It is sometimes used to accompany dancers when musicians are't present. the songs are usually comical. The usually add a lift to a musical gathering. Brían.


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jun 01 - 09:44 AM

hesperis; if you mean what is mouth music, i suppose it's 'nonsense' stuff, sung for the pleasure of it. someone else may have a better definition.


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 23 Jun 01 - 10:07 PM

"Poo-rst ah bale"


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: Helen
Date: 23 Jun 01 - 09:00 PM

The Scottish harp duo called Sileas, i.e. Mary McMaster and Patsy Seddon, do some mouth music on their CD's.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: Brían
Date: 23 Jun 01 - 04:47 PM

There is a recording called Celtic Mouth Music by Ellipsis Arts (CD4070)featuring scottish, irish and french mouth music. there's a rather nice discography in the back. I can't help you with the pronounciation. I don't speak any scotch gaelic.

Brían.


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: hesperis
Date: 23 Jun 01 - 04:00 PM

Uh... what is it?


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jun 01 - 03:43 PM

janet Russell includes some mouth music on her CD 'Bright shiny morning?'


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Subject: RE: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: GUEST,Undine
Date: 22 Jun 01 - 03:27 PM

oh yes, I forgot to ask, can someone guide me in the Gaidhlig (?) pronunciation of "puirt a beul"?


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Subject: Recommendations for Mouth Music cds?
From: GUEST,Undine
Date: 22 Jun 01 - 03:24 PM

Hello all. I hope you can recommend some good recordings of Scottish mouth music (besides the group "Mouth Music", of course). I love to listen to this, but I've not found much of it recorded by itself, only bits and pieces on various Celtic music cds. Any suggestions?


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