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TECH: Who is Shorty?

John MacKenzie 16 Jan 03 - 03:25 PM
Noreen 15 Jan 03 - 07:27 PM
GUEST 15 Jan 03 - 05:16 PM
Amos 15 Jan 03 - 05:14 PM
artbrooks 15 Jan 03 - 05:08 PM
Felipa 15 Jan 03 - 04:42 PM
DMcG 09 Jun 02 - 03:07 AM
wysiwyg 09 Jun 02 - 01:29 AM
Joe Offer 08 Jun 02 - 11:10 PM
Dicho (Frank Staplin) 08 Jun 02 - 10:50 PM
CarolC 08 Jun 02 - 09:09 PM
Dicho (Frank Staplin) 08 Jun 02 - 07:27 PM
Amos 08 Jun 02 - 07:13 PM
Mark Cohen 08 Jun 02 - 07:13 PM
Jon Freeman 08 Jun 02 - 07:07 PM
Noreen 08 Jun 02 - 07:04 PM
GUEST,Philippa 08 Jun 02 - 06:53 PM
Dicho (Frank Staplin) 08 Jun 02 - 06:53 PM
Noreen 08 Jun 02 - 06:51 PM
Murray MacLeod 08 Jun 02 - 06:45 PM
Noreen 08 Jun 02 - 06:45 PM
GUEST 08 Jun 02 - 06:39 PM
Amos 08 Jun 02 - 06:35 PM
Murray MacLeod 08 Jun 02 - 06:28 PM
Joe Offer 08 Jun 02 - 04:45 PM
DMcG 08 Jun 02 - 01:14 PM
Jon Freeman 08 Jun 02 - 01:12 PM
DMcG 08 Jun 02 - 12:28 PM
Joe Offer 08 Jun 02 - 12:14 PM
wysiwyg 08 Jun 02 - 10:33 AM
GUEST 08 Jun 02 - 04:28 AM
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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 03:25 PM

Well cut across Shorty, Shorty cut across.
That's what Miss Lucy said.
Giok


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Noreen
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 07:27 PM

GUEST should learn it's boring to repeat things...


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 05:16 PM

Max should learn Linux...


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Amos
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 05:14 PM

There's only one machine at present, as far as I know, reached through www.mudcat.org. I think this one surviving machine had to eat the other two in order to stay alive while crossing a desert or something... :>) Maybe Max should change its name to "donner".

A


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: artbrooks
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 05:08 PM

I understand Ragtime and Loki have been retired. I've not been able to connect lately to Shorty. I've had no trouble connecting to plain www.mudcat.org.


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Felipa
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 04:42 PM

I set my homepage to ragtime about a month ago, but this year it always comes up with an error message. Shorty is fine. Has Ragtime been permanently retired? What about Loki?


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: DMcG
Date: 09 Jun 02 - 03:07 AM

Loki is a cute name, and easier to spell than yggdrasil and ginnungagap

But Joe - abandoning a long time relationship with loki just because your new love has a prettier face? Shallow, my friend, shallow :-)


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Jun 02 - 01:29 AM

We need a Ballad of Loki and Shorty, and how Ragtime (the unsung or at least untitled) rode in time after time to save them from the bad guys (error messages). And their devotees.

~S~


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 11:10 PM

Hey, but Loki's got a cute name...


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 10:50 PM

Tonight I get the message occasionally that Ragtime has been put offline by the server.


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 09:09 PM

Loki was my first love for a while there, but he let me down too many times. But Ragtime is almost always there when I need him. (Although it sounds like he's been seeing a hell of a lot of people behind my back.) And now it sounds like Loki and Shorty have gone an gotten married or something. Funny old world.


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 07:27 PM

Murray, now that those of us in the elite lexicographical police have tarred and feathered you, here is a little more from the OED. They admit seperate and separat as alternate spellings. In 1513 Bradshaw wrote: "Whan all the officers departed were thens Supposynge the soule seperate from the body." Don't know what he was talking about, but there you are, Murray. A quote from an "authority."


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Amos
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 07:13 PM

No sweat Murray! I often get behind a frequent misspelling of my own and convince myself it really is correct until my wife catches me at it!

A


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 07:13 PM

I thought pitlochry was considered gauche. (From the Old Gaelic, pitte laoghraire, to laugh at [a person's] underarms.)

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 07:07 PM

Joe, I thought that using the experimental version would be why you hadn't picked up the changes in loki who used to be my favoruite but now, at least IMO, isn't fairing too well.

Other points that may be noted now by visiting Netcraft and looking at what a site is running is that Ragtime is running Win2000, where as the others report NT - maybe the 2000 combination is more stable? Or maybe shorty gets the bulk of the load?. If my memory is correct, in the days when I loved loki, it didn't even report Windows as the OS but AS-400 whatever that may be. I guess a loss in the cut backs.

On the subject of "Pinging", I discovered the other day that help.mudcat.org and www.cognitivescience.org both report 207.103.108.102 as the IP number so I presume we are looking at virtual server solutions provided by Onstage Media now rather than dedicated machines?

Jon


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Noreen
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 07:04 PM

Pitlochry has happy memories for me: the kindly authorities having provided a fish ladder to allow the salmon to swim upstream for spawning, when they built a great dam across the river, we took a liking to the signpost to said tourist attraction.

From then on, the expression dam and fish ladder has been used in moments of extreme annoyance...! :0)


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 06:53 PM

Pitlochry is pleasant; great for long low-level walks with all those paths and marked routes. enjoy.


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 06:53 PM

separate from Latin separatus. The OED lists from 1430.


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Noreen
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 06:51 PM

*smile*

Put your feet up Murray, I'd say you definitely need it...!


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 06:45 PM

Ohmigod, did I ever screw up there.

Sorry, Amos, and GUEST.

I am now goIng to take another two month absence from Mudcat. The change from Miami humidity to Pitlochry aridity has obviously played havoc with my brain cells.

Murray


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Noreen
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 06:45 PM

accepted by the OED, really, Murray? Sorry, but separate is the only spelling accepted in the dictionaries I have consulted.

According to this web design site, seperate is the second most common misspelling on the Internet
(the first being either loose or lose)


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 06:39 PM

No sure which OED you are using, Murray. In mine, "separate" is the correct spelling.


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Amos
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 06:35 PM

New Age? ! Latin? Middle English?

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition.  2000.   separate   SYLLABICATION: sep·a·rate

VERB: Inflected forms: sep·a·rat·ed, sep·a·rat·ing, sep·a·rates

TRANSITIVE VERB: 1a. To set or keep apart; disunite. b. To space apart; scatter: small farms that were separated one from another by miles of open land. c. To sort: separate mail by postal zones. 2. To differentiate or discriminate between; distinguish: a researcher who separated the various ethnic components of the population sample. 3. To remove from a mixture or combination; isolate. 4. To part (a couple), often by decree: She was separated from her husband last year. 5. To terminate a contractual relationship, as military service, with; discharge.

INTRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To come apart. 2. To withdraw: The state threatened to separate from the Union. 3. To part company; disperse. 4. To stop living together as spouses. 5. To become divided into components or parts: Oil and water tend to separate.

ADJECTIVE: (spr-t, sprt)1. Set or kept apart; disunited: Libraries often have a separate section for reference books. 2a. Existing as an independent entity. b. often Separate Having undergone schism or estrangement from a parent body: Separate churches. 3. Dissimilar from all others; distinct: "a policeman's way of being separate from you even when he was being nice" (John le Carré). 4. Not shared; individual: two people who held separate views on the issue. 5. Archaic Withdrawn from others; solitary.

NOUN: (spr-t, sprt) A garment, such as a skirt, jacket, or pair of slacks, that may be purchased separately and worn in various combinations with other garments.

ETYMOLOGY: Middle English separaten, from Latin spartus, past participle of sparre : s-, apart; see s(w)e- in Appendix I + parre, to prepare; see per-1 in Appendix I.


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 06:28 PM

Can we all come to an agreement to revert to the original spelling of "seperate", accepted by the OED, as opposed to the new age variation of "separate" ?

Murray


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 04:45 PM

Well, I haved to admit I have been untrue to Loki lately, and don't know exactly what he's up to. I use the experimental Mudcat...
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: DMcG
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 01:14 PM

I should have tried that

Anyone wnat to break the news to Joe?


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 01:12 PM

DMcG, If you try to ping loki and shorty you see the IP address 207.103.108.101 in both cases. There was a time when loki and shorty were separate machines but I don't think that is the case now.

Jon


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: DMcG
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 12:28 PM

Joe: I have noticed that at the bottom of the threads on 'loki' it announces itself as 'shorty' even though 'ragtime' admits it is 'ragtime'. This led me to think that loki was just another name for shorty rather than really a separate machine. Or is it just a mistake on the loki setup?


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Subject: RE: TECH: Who is Shorty?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 12:14 PM

Some of us havedeveloped personal relationships with the various Mudcat servers. Seems like the majority of Mudcat "regulars" prefer Ragtime. The visitors and newcomers use www.mudcat.org, which usually goes to Shorty. As for myself, I've come to know Loki as a trusted and loyal friend...

But to keep things equitable, I use internal links when posting messages in the Forum. I leave out the http://www.mudcat.org, http://loki.mudcat.org, and http://ragtime.mudcat.org when I post links in the Forum (note, however, that you have to use them when posting in the Help forum, whick is not interlinked with the regular forum)

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Who is Shorty?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 10:33 AM

There have been some changes since that message was written, but it does give one a general idea.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Who is Shorty?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 04:28 AM

See this message


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Subject: Who is Shorty?
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 08 Jun 02 - 04:15 AM

or should I say "what" - at the bottom of main forum page. also seen on Mudcat search pages


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