BS: Modern Passions

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 07:54 AM

Hey Bob, it's back to my original question - why do you people constantly elect dangerous arseholes as President! (LOL)
Cheers Buddy.
J :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 05:03 PM

No heads on pikes please
but maybe a flag up his butt...

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Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Deckman
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 04:24 PM

Strolling Johnny ... I appreciate the strength comparision between the two countrys and positions. It's finally clear to me! Now, if you could just explain why ANYONE, thinking of Kerry, would WANT to be president! CHEERS, Bob(deckman)Nelson

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 03:52 PM

Yes Don, you're right except for one important point - our Prime Minister is NOT the President. It's the PARTY that's elected to power, not a person. The Prime Minister is merely what his title suggests, the leader of the Cabinet of Ministers that make up the Government. It's impossible to have a Prime Minister whose party doesn't have a greater number of MPs than any other individual party in The House Of Commons, unlike the States where the President may be from the minority party. And the Prime Minister can be removed from office by the members of his own party, or by a vote of no confidence by the members of the House of Commons. The Prime Minister of Great Britain has far less power than the President of the USA, and his position is considerably less secure.

Also, why do you feel that Margaret Thatcher wasn't heroic? Personally I have little regard for the policies she and her band of crawling toady public-schoolboy ministers pushed through during their years of mis-rule, but I have the utmost admiration for her as a woman and a leader because of the courage and strength she displayed on many occasions. Her motives may have been suspect, her guts never were.

Johnny :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 03:28 PM

Well, Strollin' Johnny, I think there are actually more similarities than differences between the U. S. and England. The U. S. does have an equivalent to the "Royal Family," but it's highly fluid:   people such as Britney Spears, Leonard Di Caprio, Angelina Jolie (with a tiger recently tattooed on her butt), Brad Pitt, Oprah Winfrey, and even Martha Stewart, who may be on her way to the slammer. America always has a "Royal Family," but the personnel varies from year to year, sometimes month to month (in fact, those I've mentioned may have all reach their sell-by dates). To find out who they currently are, check the latest issue of People Magazine.

As far as actual political figures, it appears to me that England doesn't actually do a whole lot better than the U. S. when it comes to electing folks who are somewhat less than heroic. For example, Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair.

Just a casual observation. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 03:20 PM

"The complainers are sour grapes, sore losers, or just plain someone who's agenda or lifestyle differs from their own. If the sitting president doesn't do a satisfactory job, he just gets voted out. "

Some complainers are people who think the sitting president doesn't do a satisfactory job, and want him voted out. Talking about it -- complaint or praise -- is part of the democratic process.

clint

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 03:12 PM

Yeah, but we get to read about them in the supermarket tabloids.

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 12:05 PM

MG, instead of an elected (or even non-elected if Baby Bush is anything to go by) dangerous arsehole President, you need a Royal Family like we've got to lead you. Then, whatever their personal faults, they're just figureheads sitting in an ivory tower,who've got bugger-all power and can't do any real damage. :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 11:21 AM

Why did they not re-run the Florida election? What with 'hanging chads', disenfranchised voters, and missing ballot boxes, I would have thought this was the only fair way to resolve things.

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 11:14 AM

Of course I did not vote for a dangerous asshole. It was all those other dangerous assholes who, recognizing him, voted him in!

But of course, on a more serious note, one should remember that the American people did not vote Bushy in; it was a freak of the process, first negligently, incompently, or corruptly administered (pick one) by state election officials, and then manipulated by the Supreme Court.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 11:12 AM

Strollin' Johnny

They are elected because they won the election by the rules that work for us.

The complainers are sour grapes, sore losers, or just plain someone who's agenda or lifestyle differs from their own. If the sitting president doesn't do a satisfactory job, he just gets voted out.

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: mack/misophist
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 11:04 AM

There is a folder of signifigant quotations on my drive. This is now in it. Thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 11:01 AM

Not trolling or flaming here, just puzzled. Why do Americans constantly spend vast sums of money on, and get so excited about, their presidential elections, only to then elect Presidents who are deemed to be dangerous arseholes? In recent threads we've been told that Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Baby Bush all were/are dangerous arseholes. Why, then, were they elected? Why not elect the other guy?

Just seems odd to me - voting for a dangerous arsehole! :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 04:50 AM

LOL!

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Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 04:39 AM

Rap I'm still puzzling over the phrase 'An attorney to whom I'm married' rather than THE attorney to whom I'm married. It makes it sound as though you're married to more than one attorney!
It leads me to thoughts of The Importance of being Ernest, "To marry one attorney is unfortunate, to marry two looks like carelessness to me"
Sorry about this is just my warped sense of humour.

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 03:39 AM

Rapaire, I think that Ashcroft et al. are more dangerous to America than Osama bin Laden. They're using Osama, Al Qaeda and the whole A-rab Peril idea to get power for themselves, and they'll use whoever comes after Osama, Al Qaeda and the A-rab Peril.

The scary thing about A. et al. is not that they're a conspiracy, it's that they're a consensus.

clint

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Mudlark
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 10:10 PM

What a progression. Too bad that it's so inexorable, in this political climate. Thx, Amos.

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: michaelr
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 09:58 PM

Thank you, Amos. No comment necessary.

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 09:12 PM

Okay, Amos... I'll admit that you had me lulled to sleep with that one... then, Bang!

My grand daddy used to call that having the bases loaded...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 08:11 PM

Exactly. And I agree.

An attorney to whom I am married thinks that Ashcroft et al. are more dangerous to America than Nixon ever was.

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 08:03 PM

Gee---perhaps dear old Dick---what a great name for this frightening P***z---should head the FCC. He or Ashmore---the Moral Duo.

Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: BS: Modern Passions
From: Deckman
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 06:53 PM

TOO FUNNY! Bob

Subject: BS: Modern Passions
From: Amos
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 06:41 PM

"I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his
own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who
denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present
opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it."
-- Thomas Paine, 1783

"Free speech exercised both individually and through a free press, is
a necessity in any country where people are themselves free."
-- Theodore Roosevelt, 1918

"The truth is found when men are free to pursue it."
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1936

"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people
what they do not want to hear."
-- George Orwell, 1945

"Any time we deny any citizen the full exercise of his constitutional
rights, we are weakening our own claim to them."
-- Dwight David Eisenhower, 1963

"What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not
that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant."
-- Robert F. Kennedy, 1964

"Go fuck yourself."
-- Dick Cheney, 2004