BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: frogprince
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 07:56 PM

Hey, if they were the only alternative to the Shrub, I'd vote for them in a second. If I was dead sure where the state electoral would go, regardless of my vote, I'd be so tempted to write them in..

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 05:44 PM

The Shatner/Green ticket is definitely the way out for America. With Shatner & Green America can boldly go where no nation has gone before!

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Peace
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 05:34 PM

RED GREEN FOR VICE.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 05:31 PM

Shatner?..oh,please no! If we get to have a Canadian come down and help run things, I'd rather have Red Green....

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Peace
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 03:29 PM

The Americans need a Canadian for President. William Shatner is Canadian. No one needs to do the thinking on this one.

SHATNER FOR PRESIDENT!

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 01:04 PM

Katz' Law:
Man and nations will act rationally when all other possibilities have been exhausted.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 12:35 PM

The murder rate is lowest of all in Canada...where we have neither Democrats nor Republicans! :-)

Make America safer...elect a Canadian! We have several lovely parties you can choose from: the Bloc Quebecois (French wanting indepence or a big $ payoff), the New Democrats (supposedly socialists, but not really), the Conservatives (admirers of neo-con philosophy), and....are you ready for this?....the Liberals!!!!! (the party that most often wins elections here)

What do the Liberals really stand for? Well, they pretend to represent everyone, but actually they represent their rich corporate backers. They talk "liberal", but as soon as they are elected they enact conservative legislation that favours their rich backers. Surprise!!!

The Conservatives don't bother to talk "liberal" at all. They don't believe in "punishing the rich" (as they put it) and they make no bones about it. If ever elected they will do the same thing the Liberals do, only they won't pretend to be doing something else! No surprise!

The NDP talks socialist, but can't get elected anyway so why worry about it?

The Bloc talks independence, but will be happy to just get a big
payoff in the usual fashion. (emotional blackmail)

Oh, and there's the Green Party. Don't worry about it. No hope of getting elected.

Still...we DO have a lower murder rate! Vote Canadian for safe streets and fewer jails.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Amos
Date: 30 Oct 04 - 12:50 AM

Macedonia is a region of its own -- it was once affiliated with ancient Greece, and much later with Tito's Yugoslavia, but it has always had its own strong character.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: frogprince
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 11:11 PM

Hey, I should have figured out how it works before Sue B. did; I forgot about a really inspired preacher whom I once heard say that if a "real" Christian is on an airplane, the rest of the passengers should be grateful, 'cause God would be looking out for a plane with one of his kids on it.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 08:06 PM

Indonesian Republic of Macedoia? Former Yugoslav of course. What a very peculiar mistake.

(I think those hobbits they found in Indonesia are probably racing around inside my brain...)

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Amos
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 07:32 PM

Rapaire,

You are obviously WAY ahead of your time, not to say premature!!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 06:48 PM

" Sept. 29 (Bloomberg) -- Canada's homicide rate fell to a three-decade low last year...Police recorded 548 murders, or 1.73 for every of 100,000 Canada's 31.6 million inhabitants, down from 582, or a rate of 1.86, in 2002, Statistics Canada said in Ottawa.

And here's a site with stuff about how various countries compare on murder rates (and other things too).   You'll note that, among the countries where the murder rate is way below the Bush voting counties, are such places as the UK, the various Scandinavian countries, France and Germany. Even the Former Indonesian Republic of Macedonia scores a lower murder rate...

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Peace
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 06:43 PM

REUTERS
8:04 a.m. October 28, 2004

LONDON – Deaths of Iraqis have soared by 100,000 since the start of the Iraq war and many of the victims have been women and children, public health experts from the United States said on Thursday.

"Making conservative assumptions, we think that about 100,000 excess deaths, or more have happened since the 2003 invasion of Iraq," researchers from Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore, Maryland said in a report published online by The Lancet medical journal.


The above is from a Google of

iraqi deaths in war

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: GUEST,SueB
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 06:43 PM

And, Bobert, the sun revolves around the earth, and the earth is only about 8000 years old, not 4.6 billion. And the Grand Canyon was formed instantly by the hand of God, not over centuries by the Colorado River. Who needs statistics, when you got the bible? Anyway, everyone knows that Republicans don't get murdered as much because God's looking out for his chosen people.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 06:32 PM

Thankee, Ebbie... Got keep on these folks... They got stats to back up every danged lie in their arsinal and that's a lot of stats... Might of fact if you state the world is roundish they got stats to prove it's flat...

(Bobert tapes on the way to you an' KT, BTW...)

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 06:30 PM

You are all missing the point! The murder rate should be shared equally between Republicans and Democrats.

I suggest that either more Republicans be murdered (perhaps voluntarily?) until parity is achieved, or that the statistics be totaled and then divided by two in order that the murder rate be as close statistically as possible.

This proposal does not preclude a mixture of the two methods.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 06:07 PM

Blessin's on ya, Bobert.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 05:27 PM

Well, let me see if I have this right. Ya' say that the "murder rate" is higher in the Dem states? Ahhhhh, did this factor in the much higher poverty rate in the Repub. states which leads to earlier deaths from poor nutirition and health care?

Jus' curious?

Also, did the study look into racism and sexism between the red and blues states. No, its no where near as bad as murder but if a white guy were to experience jus' one day in the life of most balck folks who live in the South that white guy would be forever changed...

Now back to the regularilly schelduled program...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 05:23 PM

well, with revised gun laws in effect, those other counties will catch up in no time...

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: frogprince
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 05:20 PM

It might actually be true, of the very roughest county or so in the whole county that went for Gore, and the tamest that went for the Shrub. But you know that isn't what the turkey who wrote this up is trying to sell.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: frogprince
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 05:15 PM

Seriously DOUBT that statistic? Amos, if anyone can actually back up THAT whacked out "statistic", every 'catter out there can wear the same underwear for a week, and then I'll eat every pair.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Amos
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 05:05 PM

I seriously doubt that statistic!! Did they add the 100,000 Iraqis and the 1010 US citizens killed by Republican actions in Iraq?

A

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: frogprince
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 04:58 PM

Oh, that has to be all lies, Ebbie, or our good president wouldn't go around howling the word "liberal" as an accusation all over the place...

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 04:53 PM

Received by email. This may be old, but it's new to me.
A Day in the Life of Joe Republican

"Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.

"All but $10 of Joe's medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

"In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

"Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

"Joe begins his workday. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employee to call the union.

"If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

"Its noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

"After work this evening, Joe plans to visit his father at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

"Joe is happy to see his father, who is now retired and lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

"Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.

"Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: kendall
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 04:44 PM

Proof read!

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: kendall
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 04:43 PM

Lieas, big lies and statistics

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: frogprince
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 04:41 PM

But if'n they voted fer Gore, they musta been members of some of them there Lib'ral churches, so 'taint no wunder if there neighburhoods are all sunk into sin and evul.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 04:04 PM

If there are more murders there are probably also more churches, as both relate rather directly to urban crowding - lessee those stats, shall we (BG)?

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Peace
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 03:53 PM

Good thing none of the counties are located in Iraq.

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 03:45 PM

And that "He needed killin'" is a valid defense in Texas. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 03:38 PM

LOL The fact that more of Gore's supporters lived in big cities and other urban areas had nothing to do with the higher murder rate, I suppose! Thanks for the story, frogprince.

Subject: BS: Republicans Lag Seriously in Murder Rate
From: frogprince
Date: 29 Oct 04 - 03:32 PM

Just moments ago got another really "edifying" e-mail; it doesn't even say "vote for Bush" it goes through the old routine about the rise and fall of democracies, then segues into data about the 2000 election. The detail of alleged "statistics" that really gets me is:
         
       "States won by: Gore=19
Bush=29

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won
by: Gore=13.2
Bush=2.1"

Man, I'm glad I saw that; I almost went to the polls and made a serious mistake!