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Subject: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bobert Date: 28 Jan 13 - 07:57 PM Well, well, well... Looks like Ms. Sarah is history with FOX and that's the kiss-of-death for righties.... I mean, if you can't hang with FOX then yer hanger bone is broke... So, reckon it's back to Plan B for Ms. Sarah: pose nude for Playboy, right??? B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Wesley S Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:00 PM Does this mean we won't have Sarah to kick around anymore? Say it ain't so.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Don Firth Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:04 PM Most politicians have a political career. Sarah Palin has had a political careen. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: bobad Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:17 PM She can go back to spying on the Russians from her bedroom window. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,DDT Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:45 PM Her racist snipes at Obama did her in. The pubbies are desperately seeking minorities. I hear some saying that they might even run Colin Powell in '16. Assuming Powell was onboard with that, there will still have to be some severe bloodshedding within the party as the Old Guard white racists try to maintain a control they have already lost and a New Guard will have to wrest that control away with a viable plan for the future. New image, new rhetoric, new slogans, new faces--all that will be necessary but it takes time to sink in. It won't be ready by '16 and I think the GOP knows it but it's looking beyond that. They laid down with hate and must now wash off that stench. Getting rid of Palin who represents an image of white privilege preening itself before the public isn't in the future plans. They MUST find a new image before anything else can happen. I'm enjoying every minute of it--LLLOOONNNGGG overdue. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,999 Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:48 PM Sarah who? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Ebbie Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:53 PM I haven't seen a picture of Palin in a few months- but if she continued in the direction she was going, she is but a wraith of herself. The last pictures I saw she had lost probably 25 pounds. She explained it by saying that her family had taken up becoming fit. However, she didn't look good. Or well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: gnu Date: 28 Jan 13 - 08:55 PM Oh... you can still kick her around... she deserves it as does everyone who ever thought the brain dead twit was worthy of political office. But, as I have often said, and I am gonna talk in my native Acadian French tongue now so those who are easily offended should hit the "back" right now... I eat dat moi! Macreaux magnificent! She is absolutely stunningly drop dead gorgeous! But absolutely stunned as me arse. I dearly would love to... I'll stop there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bobert Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:06 PM Maybe she'll be a call girl in her next career, gn-ze??? B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:20 PM Moving from being a politician to being a prostitute is what's commonly known as a "lateral career move". No change in status, no change in pay, just different scenery. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bobert Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:25 PM Listen to Beeze, gn-ze... He seems to be "all over" this... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,999 Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:29 PM Prostitution would be a step up for far too many politicians, imo. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:32 PM It's back to Vanity Fair for Gov. Sarah. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bobert Date: 28 Jan 13 - 09:35 PM The IPG (International Prostitution Guild) does not accept politicians... No exceptions... When contacted, an IPG spokesperson said, "Hey, we have our standards."... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Little Hawk Date: 28 Jan 13 - 10:29 PM Don't gloat, folks. It doesn't become you any better than it would Sarah if you were the one in the spotlight. If you want to see a really great movie about the 2008 election, check out "Game Change". It's a fascinating look inside the Republican campaign that year, the serious mistakes that were made (the foremost one being not properly vetting Sarah Palin before they picked her for VP)....and it still treats everyone like a believable (and understandable) human being, rather than like your favorite political stereotype for the old "hate and despise" routine. She was utterly unready for a position in national politics, probably not even ready to be a state governor, but she is not a woman devoid of talent nor devoid of both intelligence and charm, much as you would love her to be, just for the sheer fun of ridiculing her at every possible opportunity. She would have been a utter disaster as VP, even morseo as president, and so would most of us! (if not all of us) The main difference is, we already know we're not ready for a job like that....at least...I sure hope we do! ;-) (I can't speak for all the egos here.) She actually seems to have thought she could manage it once they offered her the job. That's surprising self-confidence and faith on her part, along with a good deal of naivete. A person like that can achieve a good deal...IF you give they a job they are capable of handling. She was not capable of handling the job of running for Vice President, she didn't have the basic knowledge to, and that became clear quite quickly to the Republican campaign team (who were horrified when they realized it)....and the liberal media who, needless to say, were in a state of absolute ecstasy about it. You should thank Sarah. She helped make your fondest dreams come true!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,DDT Date: 28 Jan 13 - 11:24 PM Little Hawk, did you actually have something profound you were trying to say or did you just feel the urgent need to post anything at all? Virtually each sentence contradicted the one previous to it and the one that succeeded it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: catspaw49 Date: 29 Jan 13 - 08:04 AM Hawk......Have you also read the book? There are actually several other story lines that would make movies as well. The 2 guys that wrote it are on "Morning Joe" a lot as they are each political reporters and Sam Schmidt has found a home now with MSNBC, the liberal side of the news. He was a significant part of their election coverage and did a great job. I love the movie. Have you seen "Recount" by the same Producer, Jay Roach. You'd love it. Bush-Gore 2000.......same authenticity. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Greg F. Date: 29 Jan 13 - 08:55 AM You folks are forgetting the awesome power of stupidity and the equally awesome power of humanity to forget things that happened more than two weeks in the past. Don't be surprised when Sara re-appears, vampire like, to hoodwink the boobocracy a second time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bobert Date: 29 Jan 13 - 09:07 AM I thought it was Steve Schmidt, Spawzer??? No??? BTW, I have written Ms. Sarah and told her that if she does pose for Playboy I'll by a copy... For the articles, of course... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: catspaw49 Date: 29 Jan 13 - 09:27 AM It is Steve.......Not sure why I said Sam.......Sam=former racer now disabled from an accident and has become a really fine Indy car team owner.....................Anyway it is Steve. I find the real guy doesn't have the tough look of Woody Harrelson but is certainly endowed with a tough and quick mind. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: akenaton Date: 29 Jan 13 - 10:23 AM Typical....gloating over the demise of someone who could have made a difference to the buttoned up American political system, while congratulating yourselves on enabling the same corrupt set up that destroyed the economy and which will protect the status quo for eternity. Regardless which wing of the bird is granted power. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 29 Jan 13 - 10:32 AM ...and it still treats everyone like a believable (and understandable) human being, rather than like your favorite political stereotype for the old "hate and despise" routine. Sure, almost everybody's a believable, somewhat reasonable, and fairly likable human being once you get rid of the rhetoric. The reason for the "hate and despise routine" is that the rhetoric some politicians use to inspire loyalty in their supporters also inspires hate and despisal in their opponents. They crave being despised by their opposition because it creates more intense loyalty among their supporters. Instead of seeking common ground with opponents, they deny that their opponents' concerns are valid. How is an environmentalist supposed to feel when he sees someone running for high office leading a "Drill baby, drill!" cheer? It's provocation, plain and simple, and what it seeks to provoke is despisal. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Greg F. Date: 29 Jan 13 - 10:38 AM the demise of someone who could have made a difference Pol Pot made a difference to the political system, too, Pharoah. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bobert Date: 29 Jan 13 - 10:43 AM Yes, Ake, Ms. Sarah could have made a difference just as Adolf Hitler made a difference... Face it, the woman hates clean water, clean air, facts, liberals, education, people who don't want guns in the hands of wackos and anything that might be seen as progressive (as in progress)... Here's what she loves: white men making women's health decisions, mythology on global warming, mythology on economics, mythology on American history, mythology on the US Constitution, boorish behavior by racist rednecks and 2nd amendment remedies on anyone who disagrees with her... No thanks... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: kendall Date: 29 Jan 13 - 10:45 AM So did a hundred other despots. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,999 Date: 29 Jan 13 - 10:51 AM Ake, stop winding people up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Donuel Date: 29 Jan 13 - 10:54 AM "that woman does not deserve our attention or comment, however..." Gore Vidal 2008 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: John MacKenzie Date: 29 Jan 13 - 11:01 AM It's the sexiness of powerful women g. I feel exactly the same about Julia Gillard. She's one attractive lady! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 29 Jan 13 - 12:10 PM I don't give a crap what Gore Vidal says. Even when he agrees with me. Jack the Sailor. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Little Hawk Date: 29 Jan 13 - 01:07 PM Hey, Spaw. No, I haven't seen "Recount" yet. I'll have a look for it at the local video rental store. They might have it. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed "Game Change" too. I thought it was a terrific movie. DDT - Read that post again, and you might understand it. Real life often involves situations which contain surprisingly contradictory aspects, and so do real people. We aren't simply one thing. We are many things, some of them good and some of them bad. We have strengths and weaknesses which can work directly against each other, and they can checkmate us and ruin our best laid hopes and dreams. This is also true of Sarah Palin, despite the fact that she is clearly unfit for high political office...beyond perhaps being a town's mayor. I think she could manage that pretty well if she was in the right town. In other words, she might better have just stayed in Wasilla. She has a real knack for relating to a lot of working class people, talking in their terms, making them feel good, and a lot of those people love her. Put in a situation that she has the knowledge to grasp (such as being mayor of a relatively small place), that strength worked very well for her. If any of us were placed under the media scrutiny, the outright abuse combined with outright adulation, and the rest of the incredible emotional pressure that falls upon a candidate in a presidential election, I think it would damn near destroy us, and would probably leave us with emotional scars (and some bitter feelings) for the rest of our lives. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. You have to be very tough (and very experienced) to play in that game. She was tough enough, but she wasn't nearly experienced enough. As for the 2008 election, in case you don't get it, I was delighted that Obama won and that McCain/Palin lost. That doesn't necessitate my demonizing either McCain or Palin as people, I just don't agree in the least with their party's general philosophy or platform. I think it equates to fascism. That they are not aware of that themselves is completely obvious. Like everyone else, they think THEY are the good guys who will establish peace, freedom, and justice for all if they only get a chance to do it their way. Bee-Dub - Agreed! Politicians play the "hate and despise" routine to get their supporters all worked up and get the vote out. Many of their supporters play that game too. And that's why our political system is as ugly and perverse as it now is. It's not a good situation. You see in the movie "Game Change" how McCain's advisors wanted him to go after Obama with all kinds of dirty personal attack ads...how he resisted it for a long time...how he finally caved in to the pressure of the need to "win", and compromised his own principles in allowing those attacks to go ahead....and then, strikingly, how it summoned forth such a vicious response against Obama from Republican supporters that McCain became afraid that the situation was spiralling right out of control to the point where it would lead to violence (and even the implied threat of possible assassination attempts against Obama). The Hate Genie had been let out of the bottle, and it scared John McCain! He had to start downplaying the more extreme Obama-hating statements from his own supporters. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bill D Date: 29 Jan 13 - 01:29 PM Sarah made a TON of $$$$ giving speeches and writing books and working for Fox. She's now set for life, and couldn't care less what anyone thinks. I am very glad to let her BE rich and stay in Alaska, doing not much of anything. We dodged a real bullet not electing McCain.... just as we did getting rid of Spiro Agnew before he could 'move up'... likewise Dan Quayle. You wanta play mind games? Imagine 'President' McCain died ... who would Sarah have picked for HER V.P.? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 29 Jan 13 - 01:39 PM I have just one question. WTF is Potitics??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,999 Date: 29 Jan 13 - 02:23 PM It refers to the legalization of marijuana, Don. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Richard Bridge Date: 29 Jan 13 - 02:35 PM Agree with Bobster |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: gnu Date: 29 Jan 13 - 03:18 PM SRS... that is a TERRIBLE pic of Miss Sarah. John... "It's the sexiness of powerful women g." Not in my case. I just think she's breathing. I guess she's "my type". Then again, what child only likes one kinda candy bar? Now.... hooker? I would NEVER... well, if I won the Lotto Max $50M jackpot I'd call and ask her for a price list and to see if she has a frequent fucker discount and if she takes Air Miles Rewards cards. Ya get $10 off yer grocries at Sobeys for every 95 Air Miles. Ya get 1 Air Mile for every $20 ya spend so ya gotta factor that in. Can't hurt to just call, eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Little Hawk Date: 29 Jan 13 - 03:59 PM 999 - LOL! That's it! "Potitiks". Bobert's official platform. Bill - "She's now set for life, and couldn't care less what anyone thinks." Well...I get the impression that it's the same for everyone on this forum. They couldn't care less what anyone else thinks. (Note Jack's comment about Gore Vidal, for instance.) None of us really give a damn what anyone else thinks, truth be told....so why complain about Sarah Palin feeling that way? ;-D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,999 Date: 29 Jan 13 - 06:00 PM She has nice tits. That I will agree with. She is also brain-dead, so nice tits or not, she hasn't got much going for her other than an Ann Coulter-type of vicious. Ake, I am sorry that for two years you have not seen fit to either write or respond to my emails or messages. I must look like a horse's ass to you. I certainly feel like one. Take care of yourself old friend. G'bye. BM |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: bobad Date: 29 Jan 13 - 06:19 PM As the Chinese restauranteur said to Lenny Bruce, "You're better off". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bobert Date: 29 Jan 13 - 07:00 PM Me thinks that there are at least a half a dozen Mudders here who I am confident would buy a Playboy magazine featuring Ms. Sarah in the buff... BTW, the rumors that she once had sex with a moose just before she shot it have been debunked... She didn't shoot the moose... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,DDT Date: 29 Jan 13 - 07:28 PM "She has a real knack for relating to a lot of working class people, talking in their terms, making them feel good, and a lot of those people love her." I have NEVER met anyone who liked her that wasn't an extreme conservative and even most of the conservatives I know hate her. As one pundit so aptly put it: "Her support is a mile deep and an inch wide." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 29 Jan 13 - 07:38 PM Truth to tell, I think I'm the only person who knew Palin's political career was over the night Obama beat McCain. Sure she hung around for the next three years, and it tickled me to see how much energy Dems were expending on taking her seriously as a possible future candidate...I was hoping that by going after her as they did, they would actually take their eyes of of the prize. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bill D Date: 29 Jan 13 - 08:42 PM "...why complain about Sarah Palin feeling that way?" Complain? Not complaining... as I said, I'm pleased. Others on this forum not caring? Pretty broad generalization... Why even go there? oh yeah... ☺> |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Greg F. Date: 29 Jan 13 - 09:09 PM She has a real knack for relating to a lot of working class people Make that "She has a real knack for relating to other ignorant morons like herself". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: gnu Date: 29 Jan 13 - 09:15 PM Nice tits? I am talkin bout her looks. Fine lookin woman. I wouldn't care what her tits looked like. Got any pics? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bobert Date: 29 Jan 13 - 09:24 PM Listen, gn-ze... The G.G.L. (Get Gn-ze Laid) committee here in Mudfund is on the case.... Seems that you are livin' in either the high rent district or the slums where Sarah-look-alikes ain't going unless the $$$ is good... So far the G.G.L. committee is at 10%... Hang in there, son... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Little Hawk Date: 29 Jan 13 - 10:38 PM Hey, guys, I said she "has a real knack for relating to a lot of working class people" (meaning working class people in the USA)...and she does. That's a fact. I did NOT say that I agree with those working class people whom she appeals to. I don't. For instance, I think a certain amount of socialism is a very good thing, whereas those working class Americans I'm referring to think it's a synonym for "satanism" or "communism" or "dictatorship" or something else along that line... Obviously, it's the American white working class people on the Right that I'm referring to, and there are a lot of them. They're small town and rural whites across America. They're the people who can be counted on to vote Republican in any election, if they vote at all. There aren't enough of them, however, to win an American election anymore on their own, providing that the Democrats run a good campaign...and the Democrats have done that in the last 2 presidential elections. The Democrats have always (well, since 1964, that is) drawn their political strength from the big cities, the populous liberal Northeast, and the populous and very liberal West Coast. The Republicans (since 1964) have drawn their strength from the Deep South, the conservative rural areas and small towns, and most of the central west and southwest areas which also tend to be conservative. Those are what are called the "Red States". Alaska is also a "Red state", and Sarah Palin's popularity was quite strong there. To classify all those people automatically as "morons" makes you feel gloriously wonderful, I know. You so enjoy denigrating them and feeling better than them. But what they are is simply millions of people who've grown up hearing a certain cultural viewpoint (one very different from yours or mine) since they were kids, they've become accustomed to it, they defend it, and that shapes the way they think about things. I knew a lot of those people when I lived in rural New York State. I didn't agree with them about almost anything political, but they sure as hell were not all stupid. No way. They ran the gamut from very smart to average to stupid, and everything else you can name, just like other people do. Never make the mistake of underestimating your opposition. Just keep in mind that they've probably made that same mistake in regards to you. They probably think you're a moron too, just because you don't agree with them. Well, it ain't that simple. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Greg F. Date: 30 Jan 13 - 09:37 AM Sorry, Hawk, but if they believe and approve and celebrate the spew that comes out of Palin's mouth, they're ignotant morons. QED. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bobert Date: 30 Jan 13 - 01:01 PM Yeah, a moron by any other name is still a moron... These people can not possibly have an understanding of American History, economics, current events and still support someone. who like them, has no understanding of those topics as well a geography in her case... One man's generalizations are another man's observations... I've lived with these people going back as long as I can remember and I'd rather have them educated than to have them ignorant... I get no pleasure out of calling these folks morons... I'm like an umpire in baseball... I just call balls and strikes... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 30 Jan 13 - 01:44 PM Yeah, there are a lot of people in politics and the media who think they're the latest incarnation of Will Rogers. What they don't get is that Will Rogers both appealed to the common man and attempted to impart a bit of wisdom to him. For that to work, there has to be some wisdom to impart! Appealing to the common man by way of simply reinforcing his ignorance is not the same thing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: bet Date: 30 Jan 13 - 08:40 PM Now, If we could just get her out of Alaska! She's an embarressment to a great state. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bobert Date: 30 Jan 13 - 08:57 PM Yo, Beeze... I particularly liked what Will Rogers said about political parties when he said, "I'm not a member of any organized political party. I'm a Democrat"... That was funny on one hand and prophetic on the other... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,999 Date: 30 Jan 13 - 09:53 PM My apologies, Ake. Major misunderstanding on my part. That, and I can be a horse's ass at times. Not an excuse--an explanation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: akenaton Date: 31 Jan 13 - 04:29 AM Gee up Brucie!! :0) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: sciencegeek Date: 31 Jan 13 - 05:23 AM Sarah Palin's appeal is not to the American working class... a majority of whom voted for Obama... her appeal is to the "Ugly American".... the proudly ignorant, bigoted, self satisfied members of our society who believe that they inherently deserve the benefits they have because they had the good sense to be born in America. Or something along those lines... Their parents and grandparents, etc. came to the "Land of Opportunity" and managed to prosper. Their descendents feel "entitled" to the benefits of that prosperity, but begrudge extending those opportunities to "others". The hypocrisy of the "privileged class" in a supposedly classless nation. The founders of this country were intellectuals... who were also practical. They knew how work with their hands, understood scientific method, were well read and followed an ideal. They practiced "enlightened self interest" by creating a social system filled with checks and balances to prevent human nature and petty self interest from destroying that system. Sarah Palin is the poster child for petty self interest. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: akenaton Date: 31 Jan 13 - 12:42 PM "Ugly American".....dont make me laugh. What you mean is anyone who does not conform to your view of how society should be constructed. The "blue collar" working class who saw something in Mrs pain which might have been able to unlock the straightjacket of American politics, are often referred to as "stupid" or "ugly", by pseudo intellectuals who still labour under the misconception that politics can fix society.....nothing could be further from the truth, to construct a really fair society in which people have the means to fulfill themselves and contribute in a meaningful way, the whole apperatus requires to be dismantled and the people inspired to change from the money orientated hell that we have created. Naive people with the ability to inspire are what is needed, not Chicago lawyers steeped in the machinations of a corrupt economic system....Whether we like to think we are left wing or right wing, soon all that will matter will be survival as the system disintegrates and to survive we will get little help from Chicago lawyers or Mudcat "intellectuals." Little Hawk is right, Mrs Palin was naive, and that naivety was a bar to high office in this type of socio-economic system, but the first time i heard her speak, i understood the power that she had to connect with those who believe their voice is not being heard, or listened to. All the developed nations need such people, to give us strength for the battle which is coming very soon......Such people never lose their fire, tho' it can be "channeled" in ways that are of benefit to a new breed of humanity. I feel the US has missed a very great opportunity. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,sciencegeek Date: 31 Jan 13 - 01:13 PM As a young kid in the late '50's early '60's I was affronted by the notion of The Ugly American - the title of both a book and later the movie. How could this be??? We are the GOOD GUYS! We help the world. I'm older and wiser now... and understand why many other citizens of the world are not big fans of America. Or do you have another reason to explain why it was the World Trade Buildings in the USA or American Navel vessels, to name a few, that have been the targets of attacks for the past few decades? The IRA targeted English subways and buildings... not American. Why? Because that was the perceived enemy. And our mega corporations are the current imperialists - both real and imagined enemies of the interests of smaller countries. There is a long, sad history between the West and the East... you do recall something called the Crusades. Well, if you have forgotten, there are plenty of others who still hold a grudge against Christians. And it was the CIA who trained Bin Laden to fight against the Russians when they stuck their noses in Afganistan. If we are so wonderful, then why did he turn against the USA... going way out his way to do so, in fact??? And if you think that Sarah Palin was ever anything more than a shill for corporate greed that you just railed against, then I stand by my original statement and ask you to take a closer look in the mirror. You heard her speak... but you sure missed out on the real message. And I grew up in the lower middle class working poor segment of America. It was things like the G I Bill and federal support to education that helped me and others in my family have access to opportunities for advancement. And I can think for myself and examine facts, not rely on the platitudes of others. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 31 Jan 13 - 01:32 PM Wow! Ake! Very thoughtful. Naivety as the best form of government. What is your solution to the social security crisis? Soylent Green? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Donuel Date: 31 Jan 13 - 01:58 PM no one gives a crap about plain palin's potitykaka's ha "career", not even the gay pitbulls or grizzled moms. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST Date: 31 Jan 13 - 02:06 PM "What is your solution to the social security crisis? Soylent Green?" ROTFLMAO .... A scifi fan for 50 years, I always loved how issues avoided by the mainstream would be dissected, examined and held up to the light of day... all in the guise of "fiction". And my apologies for another dumb typo ... Naval.. not navel... though my husband always maintained that the motto in the Navy was "You play ball with us and we'll shove the bat up your asss." But maybe it was the 'Nam era that produced that caused that feeling... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Apr 13 - 01:23 PM Another safely enjoyable political Hate Thread from the past that won't offend us lefties, Democrats, and liberals...the good people...people like you and me! ;-) It won't offend us because it's not about Obama. Enjoy yourselves here, because this Sarah Palin hate thread passes the "acceptable hate" code of Mudcat Cafe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Apr 13 - 01:37 PM Really LH? Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career is the same as Obamcare = Genocide? Really? It would amuse me if you explained that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Greg F. Date: 06 Apr 13 - 03:06 PM Hey Hawk - that's three -or is it four?- threads now you've now raised from the dead for no apparent purpose whatsoever other than to stir shit with a big old stick. Grow up, eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Apr 13 - 06:59 PM No, it's only two, Greg. Would you like me to refresh some others to continue demonstrating which kind of political hate is deemed acceptable in this peer group and which isn't? There are so many of them... **** It's more the general tone of the comments than the specific issues I was focusing on, Jack. Bobert was objecting to Obama hate threads in a general sense, and I'm referring to political hate threads in a general sense. You know perfectly well how much fun we all had ridiculing and damning George Bush, Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, etc....good clean fun! ;-D And no one objected to it except the few Republicans and conservatives that exist among our ranks...there are just a handful of them, and you know who they are. They objected. They objected for the same reason Bobert, Don Firth, and various others object to threads attacking Obama. You all can't stand your own political ox being gored, that's all. But you're happy to gore the other guy's political ox, and you don't see anything wrong with doing so. Well, if you can dish it out, you should be able to take it, seems to me. We got to kick around George Bush for 8 years...and we enjoyed it too, didn't we? Now that Obama is president, he has to take the heat. It goes with the job. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Apr 13 - 07:14 PM "You know perfectly well how much fun we all had ridiculing and damning George Bush, Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, etc....good clean fun! ;-D" I don't think it was fun at all. For me it was nervous laughter about the future of the world and terror at just how profoundly stupid these people seemed to be. It actually WAS the end of Sarah Palins Career and George W. Bush IS a war criminal. He gave orders to waterboard. He has admitted that and said he would do it again. During Viet Nam the US government prosecuted and convicted US soldiers for the War Crime of waterboarding. Obamacare is not Genocide in any way shape or form. So you can take your false equivalence and stick it up you condescending ass. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: akenaton Date: 06 Apr 13 - 07:57 PM Not like you to be so agressive Jack. Hawk's point is sound, as most of the membership here is "liberal", they tend to see any posts which do not correspond to the way they think as "hate speech".......this stance is the antithesis of true liberalism. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Apr 13 - 07:59 PM Sorry, Ake, I don't think that he is trying to make a point other than the care and feeding of pet trolls. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: gnu Date: 06 Apr 13 - 08:02 PM I tend to think you are wasting my time, LH. I mean, the only reason I clicked is on accounta there might be some news pis of her I could ogle and fawn over... only to find out it's the same old shit about the same old shit. BTW, if anybody finds any new pics of Sarah In My Dreams, email the links to me at iamhornyforsarahandaintfussyifshedonttalk@dirtyoldmen.com |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,Arkie Date: 06 Apr 13 - 08:14 PM Here's one Gnu. Sarah |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Greg F. Date: 06 Apr 13 - 08:22 PM Jeez, Hawk, you're starting to manifest the same paranoid delusions of persecution as Beardie! Them Cliques is out to getcha! Maybe the two of you should form your own clique of two for mutual support. And if you hate this place so much why do you spend so much time here posting column after column and page after page of tripe? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Apr 13 - 08:59 PM Sarah Palin political statement |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: akenaton Date: 06 Apr 13 - 09:10 PM Is that really Mrs Palin? Surely not? and surely you guys wouldn't indulge in sexist stuff like that? It's not very PC for liberals, one would think these pictures were being posted by nasty conservatives...:0) now how would you like it if someone was to post pics of Mrs Obama's tight little bum? Leave it out lads!....PLEASE! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: pdq Date: 06 Apr 13 - 09:43 PM "...now how would you like it if someone was to post pics of Mrs Obama's tight little bum?" request answered |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 06 Apr 13 - 09:49 PM Mind you, I'm not a Sarah Palin fan...thought Tina fey did a great job...BUT.......but just for equal time..... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Apr 13 - 10:00 PM That's very tasteless GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bobert Date: 06 Apr 13 - 10:09 PM Hey, let's get real here... If Miss Sarah poses for Playboy I'll buy a copy... As for the pdq pic... It is photoshopped all the hell and back... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 06 Apr 13 - 11:03 PM Yah THINK??? Bobert LOL!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: gnu Date: 06 Apr 13 - 11:15 PM Arkie, that pic turns me off. Cleavage is for the bedroom. The bikini pic, I am definitely cool within context. That there is a WOMAN! If only she had a brain! I`d be totally smitten. Alas, without a brain, a piece a fluff to me. But a damn fine lookin bit a fluff! My apologies to all I have offended with my man remarks. Forgive me for I have... a dick. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Don Firth Date: 07 Apr 13 - 12:53 AM Goofballupagus, that little link of yours above says a great deal more about your small-mindedness, tastelessness, and bigotry than it says about Michell Obama. She's a lady. You're a swine! (My apologies to genuine swine.) Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Apr 13 - 01:03 AM gnu: "My apologies to all I have offended with my man remarks. Forgive me for I have... a dick" Yes, we could tell from the amount of 'thinking' you do with it! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Apr 13 - 01:06 AM Don, it just goes to show you that you have an exaggerated double standard!...I said in my post that I was only giving EQUAL time! Now you don't want to believe in equality???? Shame on you! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Don Firth Date: 07 Apr 13 - 01:13 AM "Equal time" and be damned! You're STILL a swine!! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Apr 13 - 02:13 AM Aw, come on...it's OK to post pics of Palin, as a joke, but not the princess Obama??..Get a life! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Ebbie Date: 07 Apr 13 - 02:23 AM For the record, every one of these purported pictures of Palin is photoshopped. That has long been established. pdq and GfS in bed together- now, isn't that interesting! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: akenaton Date: 07 Apr 13 - 03:09 AM I dont think it's right to portray Mrs palin as a tramp, or Mrs Obama as a chimp, its all nonesense, and is disrespectful to women in general. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Apr 13 - 05:01 AM I tend to agree, normally, Ake, but these two women have been more disrespectful to women than ANYTHING any Mudcatter could post about them! They are spokespersons for female clowns! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: akenaton Date: 07 Apr 13 - 06:50 AM Dont know Sanity, but if the current political mould is to be broken, It will take a strong charismatic leader, probably a woman. Sarah seems to be such a person, not brought up by the political elite, or protected by the intellectual mafia. If the mould is to be broken....if the will is there to break it, inspiration in the basics of survival will be called for. I certainly think she is wasted on the current political class. In Scotland we have the question of independence.....the politicians of the Union and to a certain extent Nationalists, seem determined to make it all about being a few pounds better or worse off, but such a decision should not be made with the tired old mindset of what has gone before....and failed before; it should be made with heart, soul and inspiration to steel us for the hardships and battles which are surely yet to come. The US are in exactly the same position, tho' not quite so far down the road as the UK....the future needs more than the tired old hacks who spout the same speil of equality, democracy, freedom, when they know so well that if these dreams were to come about, our economic and political system would crumble to dust even more quickly than it is doing right now. They actively work against the reality of these concepts. What is needed is inspiration and personal responsibility.....a stake in making our respective countries better places to give our children purpose and fulfillment in life. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: gnu Date: 07 Apr 13 - 06:57 AM Sounds like a Disney cartoon. Disrespectful to women? That, in itself, is disrespectful. They have been disrespectful to women? Bullshit. Now, if Sarah had Michelle's intelligence and grace, I'd be in love. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Apr 13 - 11:15 AM gnu: "Now, if Sarah had Michelle's intelligence and grace, I'd be in love." ...and if Michelle was wearing Sarah's bikini, then what?? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: akenaton Date: 07 Apr 13 - 11:31 AM :0) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Apr 13 - 12:01 PM LOL!!...and to think, Michelle got that ass from eating arugula!!! Shit, she's about as 'truthful' as the Ol' man....make ya' wonder what else was the Prez visiting Tiger for....just for 'holes of golf'??? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: pdq Date: 07 Apr 13 - 12:10 PM "Dont know Sanity, but if the current political mould is to be broken..." ~ Ake priceless mouldy it is |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bill D Date: 07 Apr 13 - 12:21 PM Several people here would do well to re-read JtS remark at 7:14PM... well, anyway this part of it.. ...you can take your false equivalence..... However, if you have no sense of the logical coherence of your own patterns of thought & expression, I suppose re-reading every post I have made about the topic would do you little good anyway. Suffice it to say, for those who CAN distinguish the relevant differences, criticizing Sarah Palin for her almost comical weaknesses, mistakes and general pandering to right-wing knee-jerk fetishes has no "equivalence" to the awkward attempts to find flaws in Michelle Obama, her husband or most of the Democrats. I could type long winded explanations of the basics for an hour, and those who thrive on silly comparisons wouldn't get it anyway... being cutesy trolls is MUCH more fun. (who me? sarcastic? naawwwww....) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Apr 13 - 06:06 PM pdq, i saw your post earlier in the day, and didn't quite 'get it'...then i just saw it again....you're right....priceless.....good old typos, British spelling and double en tenders! GfS P.S...Was that a compliment??..or a backhanded one?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: gnu Date: 07 Apr 13 - 06:08 PM GfS... "...and if Michelle was wearing Sarah's bikini, then what??" Yer as stunned as me arse. I can't believe you posted that for everyone to read for eternity. Oh, wait, yeah, right. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Don Firth Date: 07 Apr 13 - 09:07 PM "……..and double en tenders!" Are en tenders something like chicken tenders? Or were you totally flummoxed by the spelling of "double entendre?" A double entendre (from the French, meaning "double intention") is a figure of speech in which a spoken phrase is devised to be understood in either of two ways. Typically one of the interpretations is rather obvious whereas the other is more subtle. The more subtle of the interpretations may have a humorous, ironic, or risqué purpose. It may also convey a message that would be socially awkward, or even offensive, to state directly.Your abysmal ignorance is showing--again! Professor Firth P. S. (This is like shooting fish in a barrel!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Apr 13 - 12:42 AM Naw, I deferred to the spell checker....get some rest....kick you feet up...have a smoke. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Don Firth Date: 08 Apr 13 - 12:48 AM I don't smoke. Anything. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Ebbie Date: 08 Apr 13 - 01:34 AM May I suggest that no spell checker said OK to the 'en'? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:04 AM Oh....I thought you did...or is that just coming from out your ears? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:18 AM Yayyy, 100 posts of 'sages' savaging Sarah! Now aren't you proud to be a political idiot??? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: akenaton Date: 08 Apr 13 - 03:55 AM Hey....wait a minute, what's all this shit about incorrect spelling? Is this the "intellectual mafia" at work again, trying to dis ideas because of poor spelling or grammar? I freely admit my education was basic....in fact, almost non-existent,but life and reading have taugh me quite a lot, especially that it is far more important to be a free thinker than to tie yourself too closely to the ideas of others, no matter how attractive they may appear to you. I dont particularly care if my spelling or grammar is not up to scratch...as long as I can make myself understood I dont always agree with Sanity, but he/she has many original ideas and makes this place more lively....so why all the fuss over a couple of typo's or spelling mistakes? Don't be so petty folks, try to understand what others are saying, and if you disagree address the issue civilly. Most of us know each other quite well on this forum, we should be able to debate any subject without aggression.....it's just a way of exhibiting ones ego. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Greg F. Date: 08 Apr 13 - 08:19 AM Naw, I deferred to the spell checker.... Yeah, well that's only one minor example of what happens when people let machines think for them. And it gets a lot worse. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 08 Apr 13 - 06:20 PM "I dont particularly care if my spelling or grammar is not up to scratch...as long as I can make myself understood" Do you think that GfS tries to be understood? :-) Based on what evidence exactly? LOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Ron Davies Date: 08 Apr 13 - 10:19 PM So sorry to interrupt this world-shaking discussion on spelling. But if anybody is actually interested in the thread topic, it's time to start doing something other than jerking knees. This news is by no means good. What you want if you have any sense--and sometimes it seems doubtful if leftists on Mudcat do--is a civil war on the other side. You want the GOP tearing itself apart, with maximum bitterness and wasting of their funds. Sarah was very useful to the Democrats--- as shopworn merchandise. Somebody who captivated a fairly large piece of the electorate when she burst on the national scene, but who, despite her sizable personal following and her big talk, did not in fact have the 'cojones' to deal with a fiercely fought primary season as the presidential nominee. So she's no longer a fresh face. And that's all before this latest "revelation". And somebody who can't see the necessity of appealing to others than aging whites. There are those in the GOP who do see the necessity. What you want as Democrats is another vicious GOP primary season--with the sensible GOP faction eventually losing to another exclusionary cheerleader--like Romney. The more times non-whites, especially Hispanics, the fastest-growing segment of the electorate by far, vote Democratic, the better for Democrats--it becomes habit. This should all be obvious--but it seems it isn't. One irony here, as I've noted before, is that there are actually a lot of conservative Hispanics--strong on religion, patriotism, and capitalism. But they are alienated by a GOP perceived as a bastion of aging rich white males who have no plans to a pathway to citizenship for (primarily Hispanic) illegal immigrants. As Democrats, you want a Know-Nothing ( or many of them) as proposed GOP standard-bearer--preferably a face which has been around for a while. It seems--a far cry from even 2009--that Sarah is a good choice for this role. At least she could push the eventual nominee to the Right--as Romney felt pushed. So if she is taken out of the equation, it is in fact not good news for Democrats. Leftists need to start thinking--at some point. Allow me to suggest that now might possibly be a good time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Ron Davies Date: 08 Apr 13 - 10:21 PM "no plans for a pathway.." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 08 Apr 13 - 11:16 PM "Subject: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Bobert - PM Date: 28 Jan 13 - 07:57 PM Well, well, well..." Yes Ron Davies, lets give the topic all the respect it deserves while the news is still fresh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: akenaton Date: 09 Apr 13 - 03:31 AM The idea Ron is not just to get YOUR team elected. Surely the purpose of politics should be to change and improve society? The divisive policies that you advocate may ensure an electoral victory for YOUR team, but as in the past, will make social change almost impossible. This situation does not happen by accident, do you never ask yourself why, no matter which team wins, they govern in much the same manner?The issues which divide us are social issues in the main, and should be dealt with as such, not used as political weapons. The only way that we will see a better society, is when we stop fighting each other and start fighting the politicians. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Ron Davies Date: 09 Apr 13 - 03:02 PM Ake- You don't read very carefully, it seems. I am saying that Democratic voters would wish confusion and failure to Republican politicians. This should be obvious--even to you. It is not "fighting each other"---as you, who have no use for any politician, it seems--should know. By the way, you can take off your halo. It doesn't seem to fit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: akenaton Date: 09 Apr 13 - 03:46 PM What Little Hawk has often said is correct. Party politics is a game used to keep the populace divided.....and you seem to be encouraging others to play that game, a game which will ensure the survival of this system of govt.....it is as totalitarian as China, no matter who you vote for, the same people rule. In politics, dividing ourselves into left and right is pointless, as to effect change requires the removal of the status quo and to do that requires a popular movement containing both left and right. As the system implodes, with attacks on living standards, lack of jobs for the young, and increasing national debt etc, an alternative will have to be found. Better to be prepared. BTW must you include smarmy sarcasm in your post..(This should be obvious ...even to you}? I try to respond to you civilly, I would ask the same from you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obit: Sarah Palin's Potitical Career... From: Ron Davies Date: 10 Apr 13 - 12:03 AM Politics is reality. You and LH seem to share the charming desire of denying this. Alternatively you both claim all major parties are the same. Another variation on your favorite theme: denying reality. As for my language: perhaps you'd prefer the usual gutter dwellers who grace the threads down here below. If you can't stand the heat.... |
