Tech: Microsoft announces hole in servers

Subject: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 05 May 01 - 03:25 AM

Sorry - way off topic, but I'm posting it in case anyone's running this stuff: Microsoft has warned of a hole in Windows 2000 software which can allow hackers to access and change *everything* on your system

Subject: RE: BS: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: SeanM
Date: 05 May 01 - 03:40 AM

Wait a minute... what's that absolutely failing to cross my face? Could it be a look of surprise?

Gee, wouldn't it be nice if MS beta testing was actually complete, rather than sending out known to be flawed products and offering fixes later?

"Sorry, sir. We knew your engine would probably seize if you went above fifty MPH, we just weren't certain we could fix it in time for the season, so we figured we'd fix it later after you bought the car"

Sheesh.

M

Subject: RE: BS: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: Naemanson
Date: 05 May 01 - 05:35 AM

You know, if Bill gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed he'd... wait a minute! He does!

Subject: RE: BS: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: hesperis
Date: 05 May 01 - 12:22 PM

And windoze XP looks to be even worse. Nice, eh?

Windows ME
Windows XP
next: Windows VD?

Subject: RE: BS: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: GUEST,can't help it .... laughing my ???? off agai
Date: 05 May 01 - 01:47 PM

Since the arrival of Click Easy PeanutLinux MS has been squirming and twitching under the obvious fact that it is no longer a monopoly, added to this the fact that they seem to have hit the hardware wall at full speed. Even at 55 mph that is quite a crunch.

Ironic but true it is not the CPU nor Memory not even speed that has squished MS but the lowly telephone wire.

Then when that gets upgraded, maybe by 2099 lol, they will then be dealing with Multimedia and not databases for corporoworld. But then by that time the nasty Peguin will be ahead of them in this arena too.

Multimedia technology evolves faster than MS would like but hey why make a device that needs SW to get done what can be Hardwired into it cheaper? Besides this way is faster and far better.

Mutiltasking managers /os/ and generic widgets, you can make yer own or dowload other hobby programmers stuff.

Yup the party is over, MS is the only one who seems not to know.

Older versions of Winderz are creating problems too since when made MS was still looking at the rapid HW growth curve, meanwhile nothing much happened. The 2000 winderz for example is MAC on a PC for example but then if you do a lot of wordprcoessing would you need to upgrade? OSR2 has all the bells and whistles you'd need. Then there was Netscape which still causes serious sales shortfall, I mean why would anyone need MS Word when they have Netscape?

Big Blue gets even, after years of being a joke at MS Big Blue is about to erradicate MS off the face of the earth with a slam blam hot version of Linux already installed on their PC. If Linux continues to outperform winderz as it has in the past then Big Blue could be onto something.

Buy more Microware - don't think so. Buy Linux - yup, my next PC will be IBM Linux.

Subject: RE: BS: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: hesperis
Date: 06 May 01 - 07:33 PM

Cool! An easy, pre-installed linux?

Hmmmm... I had better look into the music software it's got for that platform if I ever need another computer. I'm ok with my pc now, but...

Subject: RE: BS: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: Amergin
Date: 06 May 01 - 07:53 PM

hmm...cool!...personally, i have been looking at macs....they're fairly stable also....

I just lost us another customer! apparently he was unhappy with opur technical advice....too bad i don't work for gates....i'd break him...

Subject: RE: BS: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: SeanM
Date: 06 May 01 - 09:34 PM

My only problem with Linux is the lack of development of software for it. I do understand that with some jigging almost any program can be ported over, but I draw the line at "Well, all you have to do is open the .exe source, change lines 2, 47, 690, 1345, 8999 and twenty others to read these incredibly long strings, recompile, go back in and change the resultant value changes to this (but not THAT, or it crashes your computer and you need to re-install), then change two lines back but I forget which ones, and you're done! Simple, no?"

Ummm... no.

M

Subject: RE: BS: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: Bert
Date: 07 May 01 - 12:12 AM

I can understand them being concerned. The hackers will more than likely improve things. And Microsoft would go broke if a piece of their software actually worked!

Subject: RE: BS: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: Amergin
Date: 07 May 01 - 12:22 AM

Bert, me and my workmates at the ISP I work for would be out of jobs also....or at least have an easier time of it...

Subject: RE: BS: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: GUEST,SeanM ohh I am so sorry to read ...
Date: 07 May 01 - 10:24 AM

that you are a devoted MS user. Know what you mean too, Linux can be soooo hard to get going NOT. Actualy if you are buying a new PC some Stores now sell Linpop already inside and these DO have full Audio/Video preinstalled. No problemo, actually my area is Audio driver configs in Linworld and believe me it works far far better than Microripoff.

Just one thing alone out performs Winderz by 101% - stabiblity, Linderz does not crash. The reason why it is so stable is how Ram is used. Winderz uses Ram like a pig does food, on the floor, no problem, in another hog's butt no problem - see hacking and ports - in the feed store two blocks down, no problem. Linderz is totaly different where each pig is secured in a concrete bunker with a pipe down it's neck and another out the other end.

Memory is locked into seperate Systems. Each can be a client or server to the other Systems in the machine, that is why it is so difficult to hack into a Linbox. The Admin can make everything in any or all 'Consoles' blanks if they so choose. It is also why one application can lock up the screen and you can press F2 to open the next. In that one you simply run netstat to find the Process Number of the Locked program and simply issue the Kill 'proggy no' command. This is why most Universities are now migrating to Linux - You can test to lock any application and not reboot! It not whether Winderz is at the end of the line but rather when. BTW MS cannot now jump into Linworld and rip that off like they did the MAC since they would be sued out of existence by the OPEN SOURCE community.

Buy Microsoft - hardly think so - like I already said I have MSBugware to give away - hey you need MS 32 OS?

Subject: RE: BS: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: hesperis
Date: 07 May 01 - 11:08 AM

When I said music software I meant music creation software, not just players... is there anything like Cakewalk for Linux?

Subject: RE: BS: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: SeanM
Date: 07 May 01 - 05:31 PM

OK...

So, GUEST, I take it you don't like Microsoft and you're a wee bit partial to Linux...

Once again - I DO appreciate that it's more stable and has less loopholes than MS. HOWEVER, that still doesn't get around the problem that for what I like to do on a computer, there is little to no support for the OS. I ran Mac for a while, and eventually gave up for the same reasons.

For some people, Linux answers all their needs, and they can rightly be said to be perfectly happy with their (to them) superior OS. For others, MacOS is the same. I am left by default as a Windows user, as a) it's easy, b) it's what is on almost every computer that you get and I'm not skilled enough to strip to bare earth and rebuild (even if I had reason), and c) None of the games and few of the apps that I use have Linux support, and why would I want to drop another $1200 for a Linux version of Adobe Photoshop when I just got the one I have for Windows?

It's not a holy crusade against Gates... It's merely the unfortunate (and that's mildly debatable) side effect of having an industry standard that doesn't believe that quality is the main purpose...

You can have your Penguin. I want my RollerCoaster Tycoon, Dreamweaver, Adobe, and the like.

M

Subject: RE: BS: Microsoft announces hole in servers
From: Bert
Date: 07 May 01 - 05:52 PM

But Linux has a command line AND a scripting language.