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Subject: Convicted felon US 47/Don't Say His Name From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Dec 25 - 10:09 AM We're getting close to the 700th post on the most recent iteration of these one-US politics-threads at a time so I'll start this now while I'm thinking of it. Convicted felon US 47 Pres / Thiel coup 3 has some good links in it and has moved along with the times. The Epstein Papers are due to be released today, in which more of his misdeeds will no doubt be shown and nothing done about them and may cause a flurry of discussion. Meanwhile, a movement from the People's Union is urging people to not give him the attention he craves. Don't re-tweet or share his demented words, don't share photos, don't write the name of the 45/47 pres. That works for me, as I continue to turn off the news if they talk about him or play his voice. The other thread will be closed because if it goes over 700 it will drop into the zone that offers a message about the thread being too long and now being worked on, etc. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Helen Date: 19 Dec 25 - 12:29 PM Thanks SRS! And thanks also to BWM for posting the full article and the link to it on 19 Dec 25 - 05:58 AM "From Mary Geddry on Substack, commenting on the Pulitzer Prize Board’s response to being sued by the Fat, Orange Baboon." Before reading the article I wondered what He-Who-Is-Unnamed (HWIU) had to do with the Pulitzer Prize. Ok, got it! Now I am wondering why it is so unusual - in these crazy times - for a defendant to ask for complete documentary proof that harm has been caused in relation to the accusations and also why the other cases HWIU has generated haven't resorted to the same strategy. A glimmer of hope for the future. And oh, wouldn't it be great to see him reveal all of his dark, hidden secrets like his long-hidden tax returns, his medical records, etc! |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Backwoodsman Date: 19 Dec 25 - 12:45 PM Don’t hold your breath Helen! ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Helen Date: 19 Dec 25 - 03:47 PM No he is more likely to duck for cover than stand his ground. That will be fun to watch too. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Donuel Date: 19 Dec 25 - 06:06 PM Is he expecting to be publicly assassinated like John F Kennedy? He added these large letters 'Donald Trump and' John F Kennedy Memorial to the building. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Donuel Date: 19 Dec 25 - 06:16 PM Monsanto invented aspartame. If Diet Coke ever reaches 100°F, it forms formaldehyde. Airline pilots are fined for drinking it since it effects vision. Monsanto has since sold the patent. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Helen Date: 19 Dec 25 - 06:19 PM Also Donuel, see if you can find the episode of Mythbusters where they figure out that aspartame in Diet Coke etc is one of the key ingredients in making it go up in the air like a canon when Mentos are dropped in it. LOL |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Raggytash Date: 20 Dec 25 - 06:21 AM From Wiki "Aspartame was discovered by accident in 1965 by James M. Schlatter, a chemist working for G.D. Searle & Company in Skokie, Illinois. Schlatter had synthesized aspartame as an intermediate step in generating a tetrapeptide of the hormone gastrin, for use in assessing an anti-ulcer drug candidate.[59] He discovered its sweet taste when he licked his finger, which had become contaminated with aspartame, to lift up a piece of paper.[11][60] Torunn Atteraas Garin participated in the development of aspartame as an artificial sweetener.[61]" NutraSweet Company "In 1985, Monsanto bought G.D. Searle,[70] and the aspartame business became a separate Monsanto subsidiary, NutraSweet. In March 2000, Monsanto sold it to J.W. Childs Associates Equity Partners II L.P.[71][72] European use patents on aspartame expired beginning in 1987, with the US patent following suit in 1992.[73]" |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Dave the Gnome Date: 20 Dec 25 - 07:32 AM You just triggered a memory, Raggy. Anyone ever see the film "Skokie"? Really good TV movie featuring Danny Kaye as Max Feldman, standing up to a Neo-Nazi rally. A good lesson to be learned from it today! From thhe Wiki entry - The Jewish community decides to stand against the rally at all costs to make sure that the Holocaust will never be forgotten or allowed to happen again. Moderate leaders Bert Silverman and Abbot Rosen advise the Jewish community to ignore the neo-Nazis; the strategy they put forward is "quarantine", isolating the meeting by totally ignoring the neo-Nazi presence and refusing to be provoked. They see their logic as simple: if the Jewish community refuses to acknowledge the rally and thus refuses to feed the media any publicity, the meeting will be futile and eventually forgotten. However, one citizen challenges their argument. A Holocaust survivor, Max Feldman, says that he was told to ignore the Nazis nearly 40 years ago in Germany, and before he knew it he was in a concentration camp. He says this time he will take action, and he is ready to shed blood if necessary. Led by this de facto spokesman, most members of the community agree to protest. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 Dec 25 - 10:29 AM Off and running in many directions, I see! I've started reading the satirist Andy Borowitz's Profiles in Ignorance: How America's Politicians Got Dumb and Dumber. In the introduction he discusses the subjects of the book, with a few paragraphs I'll share here. To believe that Trump's presidency came out of nowhere, without warning, is the political version of creationism. I, on the other hand, believe in devolution. The election of a serially bankrupt, functionally illiterate reality TV host was the logical consequence of the five decades preceding it, which, with apologies to Edith Wharton, I'll call the Age of Ignorance. How did the bar for our political figures fall so far? To better Understand this heinous half century, I've divided it into the Three Stages of Ignorance: Ridicule, Acceptance, and Celebration. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Richard Atkins Date: 20 Dec 25 - 11:18 PM The sooner the Trump head case is gone the better. God bless The United States of Trump |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Backwoodsman Date: 21 Dec 25 - 05:35 AM The problem is, Richard, that there’s a plethora of other head-cases lined up to follow him. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Stilly River Sage Date: 21 Dec 25 - 01:09 PM At least here they can scrape the Trump crap off once he's out of office. Someone must be keeping a spreadsheet of the offenses of this administration so the government and properties and agencies and buildings can be restored. The speed at which they break things (DOGE on agencies and Drumpf on the White House in particular) is going to make restoration seem slow by comparison, but much of it must be done. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Donuel Date: 21 Dec 25 - 08:46 PM PoLiticians are not the boss. Their boss is the Foreign Relations Committee FRC, and the bankers, including the IMF and the Bilderbergs. The Federalist Society is the internal government boss. The system is fascist by its operation. Dumb politicians are often the most desirable by their bosses to be ignorant fall guys for the official oligarchy. It's been this way for 100 years or more since the last Gilded Age. There are other influencers like religion behind the Prayer Breakfast and Family. Education is the enemy to the current system. There is much the average citizen does not know. An introduction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_60_Families |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Donuel Date: 22 Dec 25 - 04:27 PM Just as the US is still living with the remnants of the Civil War, the world is still dealing with the aftermath of the First World War. The Middle East is still dealing with the mandates that divided the Ottoman Empire between the UK and France, who created states they imperialistically treated as their own, with Palestine left up for grabs by everyone. Now, Trump wants to return to the days when we treated South America similarly. I'm sure our military wants to test out our new AI warfare strategies. So far, we are claiming Venezuelan oil as our own by technicalities/piracy. Runaway inflation preceded the previous world wars, and Trump is on his way to causing that in the next 3 years. Are we smart enough to turn away from another great war by psychopathic leaders? |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Donuel Date: 22 Dec 25 - 09:47 PM This is not broad-brush history; this is roller history. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: The Sandman Date: 23 Dec 25 - 02:58 AM Trump is the biggest warmonger in the world, no wonder Russia was worried by Nato wareships close to their boundaries and the increase us bases in eastern europe. Mind you what right has Denmark to colonise Greenland |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: The Sandman Date: 23 Dec 25 - 03:06 AM Trump has over 40 military bases and sites in Europe, with significant concentrations in Germany, Italy, the UK, and Poland, hosting around 84,000 troops as of early 2025, though exact numbers vary by source and reporting period, with major hubs like Ramstein Air Base (Germany) and Naval Support Activity Naples (Italy). These facilities range from large Army garrisons to smaller surveillance or logistics sites, supporting operations across the U S. European Command (EUCOM) area. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: r.padgett Date: 23 Dec 25 - 12:17 PM Greenland and Venezuela being bullied for their own assets? Piracy and duress? Ray |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Backwoodsman Date: 23 Dec 25 - 05:21 PM …and as a diversion from the contents of the Epstein Files? |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Dec 25 - 02:08 PM Robert Reich on It's A Wonderful Life and how Trump is just like Mr. Potter. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Christmas song From: Donuel Date: 27 Dec 25 - 09:50 AM Trump is sueing us that dirty liar Lawyers clipping off our nose MAGA hymns being sung by a choir And folks dressed up like frozen crows Everybody knows he's a turkey with some missing toes Help save the country from his blight Tiny tots with their eyes cast below Will find it hard to sleep tonight Do you know the Crash is on the way? There'll be fewer toys and goodies in this fray Everybody's mother's child is going to spy To see if any Trumps really know how to cry And so I'm offering this simple phrase From kids from one to ninety-two Although it's been said many times, many ways Merry Christmas, except for you know who |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Donuel Date: 31 Dec 25 - 09:45 AM Mr. Hegseth has openly told our Generals to return to the days of My Lai and the descent into obeying the madness of illegal orders to massacre. The general public is not completely desensitized by evidence of the 7 million strong no kings march. Precedents have been made and the psychology of our citizens are still vulnerable to the increased propoganda and media takeover. The descent into social madness may still succeed if it goes slow enough. Free speech does not include calls to violence or slander. While more intimidation and censorship of free speech and critics is progressing, the President continues to call for violence and slanders his perceived enemies daily. There is currently more push back compared to the earlier extortion of universities and lawfirms. MAKE NO MISTAKE, total authoritarian takeover of the USA is still on a precarious see saw. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Stilly River Sage Date: 31 Dec 25 - 10:12 AM BINGO cards for the year will include things like "midterm election," "Federal courts," "assassination," and "blood clot" as to what might come into play for the orange gipper in 2026. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Backwoodsman Date: 31 Dec 25 - 12:04 PM He is senile, or insane, or both. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Helen Date: 31 Dec 25 - 12:13 PM Both - and more. And my bet is what I have been referring to as McDonaldsitis i.e. any or every health consequence - major and minor - of eating junk food at least once a day. I saw on Stephen Colbert's The Late Show (I think) an image of the meals provided on Air Force One when RFK Jr travelled on it and it was huge amounts of Big Macs and fries etc and not a spec of healthy food, unless you count what passes for salad on a Big Mac. RFK Jr can't have been impressed with that, surely!!?? But then again, he is a hypocrite. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: The Sandman Date: 31 Dec 25 - 04:16 PM I do not think he is senile I think he is a tool of the USA armament industry In the 2024 election cycle, Donald Trump's campaign and affiliated outside groups received roughly $1.73 million from the defense sector. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Raggytash Date: 31 Dec 25 - 06:51 PM I would suggest that in the politics of USA $1.73 million is a drop in the ocean. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Stilly River Sage Date: 31 Dec 25 - 07:42 PM Dick, that's not what's happening. The Heritage Foundation has their talons in Trump. As Raggy says, that 1.7M is puny, meaningless in this context. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 01 Jan 26 - 06:41 AM well the turnip has got 2026 off to a good start, hasn't he. where the rest of the world spoke of goodwill, his message to his opponents was to 'rot in hell'. Let's postpone 2026 for 24 hours and start the year again on the right footing. Lets also campaign for Jan 1st to be designated the UN international day of goodwill and any world leader who fails to observe it be named and shamed by the UN gen sec at the next meeting. In the meantime this could be a popular movement starting on social media. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Backwoodsman Date: 01 Jan 26 - 07:41 AM I’m so tired of him. I’m tired of people pretending he’s not an idiot. I’m tired of his lies. I’m tired of his sickening amorality. I’m tired of his face, his voice, his smirk. I’m tired of his inability to say even one thing remotely kind, or humble, or appropriate - ever. I’m so fucking tired of him. (Thanks to an unidentified FB source - sums up my feelings about the fat, ugly, orange bastard perfectly). |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Helen Date: 01 Jan 26 - 12:13 PM Thanks BWM, that says it all. And I agree with SPB-Cooperator, too. I'm hoping that karma will kick in this year for the unnameable Prez. Big time! Bring it on! |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Lighter Date: 01 Jan 26 - 03:41 PM DHS says "Happy New Year!" (U.S. population: 330 million.) https://www.facebook.com/homelandsecurity/posts/the-peace-of-a-nation-no-longer-besieged-by-the-third-world/1355505993287242/ |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Backwoodsman Date: 02 Jan 26 - 01:10 AM DHS should be re-named by tRump to DHP - Department of Homeland Propaganda. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Lighter Date: 02 Jan 26 - 07:13 AM Fun fact: "Government propaganda" was almost unknown before the First World War. (No pre-war encyclopedia, including the 1911 Britannica, for example, has an entry for "propaganda.") The point isn't that the DHS picture is propaganda, but that its message is (shall we say?) startling. Furthermore, the idea that America will resemble a surfer's dream in 1966 (but without surfboards or people) is (shall we say?) unconvincing. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Lighter Date: 02 Jan 26 - 07:45 AM Cause for hope? Or alarm? From "The Hill": "Back in 2001, 54 percent of Americans reported trusting the federal government, a slight increase from the 47 percent who felt that way in the 1980s. Now, public trust in government is scraping historic lows across every metric: As of 2025, only 17 percent of Americans believe that what their government is telling them is true." The whole article is a downer worth reading: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/opinion-trump-presides-over-america-140000536.html |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Aethelric Date: 03 Jan 26 - 08:52 AM Hmm, he has just kidnapped the head of a foreign state. I wonder if this sort of thing will catch on? |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: r.padgett Date: 03 Jan 26 - 10:10 AM and the Venison is to stand trial in USA Ray its all about drugs apparently |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Backwoodsman Date: 03 Jan 26 - 11:09 AM What was it the fat, ugly, orange baboon was saying about the Nobel Peace Prize? |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Stilly River Sage Date: 03 Jan 26 - 11:11 AM No, it's all about the next distraction from his bad behavior. I'm reading a book by the famous American satirist Andy Borowitz. Profiles in Ignorance: How America's Politicians Got Dumb and Dumber. He focuses on Reagan, Bush II, and Trump, and I'm in the Reagan chapter now in which we learn how his enablers pretty much wrote the playbook that 45/47 is running with now. Reagan demonstrated that, in the hands of a talented TV performer, one joke could sink a thousand facts. But he had enjoyed another advantage as he cruised to victory in 1980: an all-star roster of morally dubious advisers. His gang of goons included Roy Cohn, the disgraced former aide to Senator Joseph McCarthy, and three hard-charging political consultants, Roger Ailes, Roger Stone, and Paul Manafort. It was hard to imagine another Republican presidential assembling such a team, or coming up with a campaign slogan as winning as Reagan's: "Let's Make America Great Again."40 Reagan was able to dismiss all of Jimmy Carter's knowledge and facts by uttering "There he goes again" and deploying lots of hackneyed Hollywood film lines whenever he didn't know what he should really say. When a satirist writes history it's fascinating and to the point. And from the introduction to the book: One final point. For the past twenty years or so, I've written a column in which I've made up news stories for the purpose of satire. In this book, I've made nothing up. All the events I'm about to describe actually happened. They're a part of American history. Unfortunately. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Dave the Gnome Date: 03 Jan 26 - 12:35 PM I suspect this one is a test to see what the rest of the world does. If they throw Venezuela to the dogs, Greenland is next, followed by Mexico and Canada. OK - They say Maduro is a crook and corrupt. So is Trump. It is also exactly what Putin says about Zelenskyy Roll on the November elections. If he lasts that long... |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 03 Jan 26 - 12:37 PM The Felon-in-Chief has basically jumped the shark. As we speak, he's blethering on about the US running Venezuela, and how (surprise) it'll be paid for with Venezuelan oil. Straight out of his controller's playbook*. I foresee a phone call to (the rubble of) the White House, in which someone will say to him those three little words which mean so much:
.... The one I feel sorriest for right now is Zelenskyy. Agent Orange may have wanted to distract from the legacy of Epstein, but his controller doubtless has his eyes on Kyiv, and wants to forcibly change its spelling back. --- I'm staying out of it, and staying as far as possible from the TV news. I resent having to give the worthless little oik any headspace whatsoever, and will be much happier once he's parked back on the thunderbox† where his emenations belong. * I don't have a copy of Mein Kampf to czeck whether it's there too. † Irony is not dead. An alternative name for this (in)sanitary item is "throne". |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Backwoodsman Date: 03 Jan 26 - 12:39 PM The fat, ugly, orange baboon on BBC TV News Channel just now, announcing that the US is ‘taking over the running of Venezuela temporarily’. This is the same fat, ugly, orange baboon who has been begging for the Nobel Peace Prize to be awarded to him. And, in the meantime, his 34 felony convictions fade into the dim and distant past, and his involvement in the Epstein Files is forgotten. Sorry USA, you are totally fucked (and we will be the same in the UK if his puppet, Farage, manages to get Reform UK elected to power at the next GE). |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Donuel Date: 03 Jan 26 - 01:32 PM Relax, Farage could take Monaco and Lichtenstein but not India. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: The Sandman Date: 03 Jan 26 - 03:36 PM only Russia or China can stand up to Trump, |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Helen Date: 03 Jan 26 - 04:57 PM Maybe he'll solve it all with his self-administered aspirin overdosing based on his more-is-better philosophy. "Recognizing the Early and Severe Signs of Toxicity "The initial signs of Aspirin poisoning are generally subtle, affecting the auditory and gastrointestinal systems. The most classic early symptom is tinnitus, described as a persistent ringing or buzzing sound in the ears. This is frequently accompanied by impaired or muffled hearing. "Gastrointestinal distress is also common in early toxicity, presenting as nausea, vomiting, and abdominal pain. Patients may experience hyperventilation (rapid or deep breathing) as the body attempts to compensate for the drug’s effects on the acid-base balance. Other mild indicators include excessive sweating and unusual thirst. "As poisoning progresses to a severe stage, symptoms become more pronounced and involve the central nervous system. **Severe signs include confusion, agitation, and a noticeable change in mental status, sometimes progressing to hallucinations.** The inability to regulate temperature can lead to a high fever, and metabolic disruption can cause metabolic acidosis and dangerously low blood sugar. In the most severe cases, patients may experience seizures, develop cerebral or pulmonary edema, become comatose, or suffer kidney failure." **Problem identified??!! LOL |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Stilly River Sage Date: 03 Jan 26 - 07:01 PM Venezuela by Jesse Wells. (The other song "Venezuela" I know is sung by Richard Dyer Bennet and bears no relation to this situation). Try to spend a quiet Saturday away from social media and it still creeps into your consciousness, that he's done something bigger and stupider - again. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: Richard Atkins Date: 03 Jan 26 - 09:42 PM The Trump learns from Putin. Ignore international law for what you can get out of it. I guess he will continue earning disrespect for America |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: r.padgett Date: 04 Jan 26 - 03:16 AM Dangerous precedent ~ kidnapping ~ potential burglary) check definition ~ he cares nowt for the law! very dangerous Europe MUST be galvanised into at least starting to work together to reel in this monster Ray |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name From: r.padgett Date: 04 Jan 26 - 08:20 AM Trump may well be in the process of exerting pressure on a number of south American countries ~ on drugs charges This could well be seen badly by EU, and Russia and the world Ray |
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