BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: gnu
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 12:47 PM

No way I am going to watch it. Sounds too much like a chick-flick for me. Give me a comedy anyday. Maybe if it was called The Odd Cowboys and Jack and Walter were in it... or called The Trail to Wherever with Bob and Bing. Ah, they don't make em like that anymore. Now, it's Ahhhnold and Tom killing the dirty rotten terrorists, but, in a comical way.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 12:48 PM

I don't Martin from a load of hay - if his posts are disturbing to some, why not skip down to the next one when you see his name?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: gnu
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 12:56 PM

GUEST, Date: 27 Dec 05 - 12:48 PM

You must be new here.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,Mr Masculinity
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 01:54 PM

Martin Gibson - "Wrong, Mr. Maculinity. Plain wrong. I am not angered by it. I have no use for homosexuality because quite frankly, someone as sick as you does.

You can try to justify to me why you yourself has to flaunt your own homosexuality, Mr. Masculinity. If you want to see a movie about two men who want to express themselves physically to each other by mutual buttfuck, be my guest. Just don't tell me that I have to accept that kind of behavior because I don't."


I don't follow you, Martin. I don't have any interest in homosexuality nor do I have much interest in this movie. Almost none, in fact. I don't really care. It's a non-issue to me. I'm just trying to determine why it is such a big issue to you. I'm not interested in promoting homosexual lifestyles, I'm interested in understanding your hypersensitivity and your compulsive need to viciously attack people who are different from yourself in some way. Why are you so afraid of people who aren't like you? Why should they be like you?

I mean, we're all somewhat afraid of people who aren't like us, but you are a really extreme case. Do you think God is pleased and gratified by your continual verbal attacks on people? Do you think He will reward you for screwing up someone else's day? (what would the reward be, one wonders) Do you think it will advance your development as a human being to make other people feel rotten? Why do you do it? What is lacking in your sense of completion?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: gnu
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 02:03 PM

GUEST, Date: 27 Dec 05 - 12:48 PM

See?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,Sissy
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 02:37 PM

The movie would be more acceptable if they were humping the cows instead of each other.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 03:04 PM

Maybe it's a love story. That's different from a sex story. Love stories can be quite enlightening.

However, I still don't feel much interest in this movie for whatever reason.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Amos
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 03:33 PM

I'm not offended by language as I am by your lack of offensiviness to ACTIONS. Amos, I'm talking in part to you

I suppose you mean you are offended by my tolerance toward these "unnatch'l" acts, which have been going on between men since the earliest recorded history of civilization.

Somehow you must have graduated from the ranks of mortal humans to the rank of Judge Over Other People. I congratulate you, although I certainly don't understand the qualifying process you went through to rise to this high station. But you seem to think with great certainty that you may judge the rights and wrongs of actions committed by others in their private lives, just as though they were robbing banks or helping old ladies across the street or perhaps signing up for big insurance policies.

When I was growing up one of the expressions I had to learn was "none of your business".

But I can see you are beyond all that. Congratulations, your honor.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: kendall
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 04:30 PM

I'm not a biblical scholar, but I have to wonder why homosexual acts between two men are so damning, when the same doesn't hold true for women?
A Jew once told me that it is more about inheritance than about morality.

Also, having known a few homos and Lesbians, I have to wonder why the homophobes always concentrate on the physical aspect of love.
I didn't marry for sex; there is so much more to a relationship than sex. (That is, a healthy relatonship).Opinions please.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 06:01 PM

Martin if you're mainstream, I'm...........(words starting to fail me at this point).......Paul Revere's horse!

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,Merde, alors!
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 06:03 PM

Ever hear the rantings and ravings of a sociopathic hate-monger before?

Well, you have now!

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,615
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 06:03 PM

Martin is beneath contempt. Anyone who would laugh about a man's physical challenges or make jokes about the death of an infant child doesn't deserve to get the attention that he craves from us. Ignore him and he will eventually go away. He's only here to push buttons. When we react - he wins. For many of us - he no longer exists.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,Merde, alors!
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 06:06 PM

His savage attacks on gays are a dead giveaway that he, himself, is a latent homosexual, and it's drivimg him crazy!

Now listen to how wildly he denies it. More proof!

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: number 6
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 06:15 PM

The movie which is the subject of this thread .... doesn't interest me in the least bit. I don't give a rat's ass about it being about some gay cow pokes, and I don't give a rat's ass on everyones's opinion regarding it... if I did, then I'd have to get involved with all the negative squabbling... overall, this movie just seems dull.

A good western was 'Heaven's Gate' which I thought was magnificiant .... my gain, the critics loss ....'High Noon' was a classic.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 06:21 PM

I agree the critics get it wrong.

I loved Costner's Wyatt Earp - particularly the James Howard Newton score, bits of which sounded like Copeland. Missouri Breaks - I really liked that.

Cold mountain, I couldn't give a damn whether that bloke got home or not. Open Range - they could have closed it down for me.....

After all this to do, I'll probably watch this one.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 06:30 PM

Costner's "Wyatt Earp" was far and away the best movie ever done on Mr Earp. Absolutely great. It was way too real for the public (who I suppose wanted another unreal Hollywood spectacle like "Tombstone" or "Young Guns"), and the critics were just in the mood to crucify Costner at that time, no matter what he did.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: robomatic
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 06:55 PM

Of the recent flicks, liked Silverado. Of the cross cultural, Little Big Man (The book is even better and there was an acceptable sequel about five years ago). Just all around great: The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. Comic: Cat Ballou.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 07:13 PM

Phony, intolerant, anti-semitic, psuedo-intellectual.... well Gibbon, you've just described yourself. Oh let's add latent,cause it's obvious to everyone else. Don't give us the moral excuse. You are not a moral person.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 07:22 PM

Don't feed the trolls.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 08:05 PM

Kendall, you might find this review of a homophobic so-called Biblical scholar's book interesting: click here..keep reading, there's some very interesting points throughout the article.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Once Famous
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 09:01 PM

Watching out, that is. As in running away.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,Merde, alors!
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 09:07 PM

And there he is as predicted, mes élèves! Observe how the specimen twists, writhes, and objects strenuously, even indulging in insults and abuse. What more evidence does one need?

Whether or not he cares about what is said about him is evidenced by the fact that he feels it necessary to tell us how much he DOESN'T care. Intéresant, n'est-ce pass?

He even tries to divert our attention to his predicament by referring to "his wife." Could his wife's name be Fred, peut-etre?

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: number 6
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 09:20 PM

Thanks for mentioning "Cat Ballou" robomatic ... excellent movie ... a good example of a comedy/western, that can not be easily pulled off ... I also agree with you on "Little Big Man", I actually have a copy of that on VHS.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,Merde, alors!
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 09:46 PM

NOW he wants me to take his penis in my mouth. OY! MERDE INDEED!!

Ptui!!

That about wraps it up. Film at 11:00!

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,Jacques Le Vendreau
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 09:47 PM

As a French gay rights activist and an intellectual dilletante who hates Americans, is deeply leftist, and approves of effete, ivory-tower pontification of every sort, I must say, Martin, that I take umbrage to your insensitive remarks on this forum. Deep umbrage. I am going to find out where you live and come and visit you for a few months, however long it takes, and by my eloquence save you from the terrible state of mind you have devolved into with your obscene ranting on this forum. I will soon have you reading good literature and eating properly cooked food. I will teach you to admire France. You will realize that Chicago is a hellhole, and you will move to Paris, there to become a much different man. You will secure French citizenship and turn your back on the cesspool of urban America. You will eat quiche and drink tea with one finger sticking daintily out to the side. You will eat champignons and truffles. You will write a long apology to all those whom you have thoughtlessly savaged on this forum and elsewhere, and subject yourself to self-flagellation in repentance. You will leave the archaic faith of Judaism behind and become a liberal humanist. All this I am willing to do on behalf of a suffering humanity. Why? Because I am the kind who cares, Martin. I care deeply about you, as I do about all those who have been led astray. I feel your pain.

Expect me to arrive about mid-January.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,Jacques Le Vendreau
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 10:11 PM

What, no answer yet? Ah, Martin, do not be shy. I know you have had your little fingers burnt before, but I am your friend. I will rush to your aid as soon as I have met my responsibilities here in my beloved France. Have no fear, mon ami! Your deliverance is at hand. In a mere 2 weeks I shall be knocking on your door, bringing bottles of Perrier and fine French wine and pastries. We shall have wonderful times together. I will also be bringing a real French poodle (miniature) for you dear wife, Gail, and it is house-trained. Your life, my petite Martin, is about to be transformed forever!

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,Jacques Le Vendreau
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 10:16 PM

Mon Dieu! It is worse than I thought. The dementia grows stronger with each passing moment.

Martin, I am willing to consider altering my very tight schedule. I will be there by January 10th latest.

Hang on to your sanity, mon ami! Help is on the way.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,Merde, alors!
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 10:19 PM

I don't know, Jacques. You may have to pry him out of his kennel.

Bon chance, but I really don't know about this......

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Peace
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 10:21 PM

"Why? Because I am the kind who cares, Martin. I care deeply about you, as I do about all those who have been led astray. I feel your pain."

It ain't yer pain he wants to feel.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: number 6
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 10:25 PM

Boredom .... Boredom .... boredom .... boredom

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: number 6
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 10:26 PM

Martin for a guy of your age I think you would know better than to get trapped into this crap.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,Jacques Le Vendreau
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 10:27 PM

I have absolute confidence that I can save this unfortunate wretch. One must remember: he is from Chicago. That alone can account for a great deal. He has suffered much. But when he is exposed to the ineffable glories and beauties of the French culture, all that will be washed away. It will be as if it had never been. I have saved others, and I shall save Martin too. Nothing can stop Jacques Le Vendreau when he sets his mind to the task.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Peace
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 10:35 PM

"ineffable glories and beauties of the French culture"

France took its cooking from Italy. At least they had the good sense to do that.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: bobad
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 10:36 PM

Peace

Try telling that to a Frenchman.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,ghost of Errol Flynn
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 10:40 PM

the only cultural aspect of France I can think of is the art of soixante-neuf.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 10:59 PM

I wanna see it, Jacques. Save Martin! Save Martin!

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Amos
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 12:34 AM

Cher JAcques,

I am elated at the sheer boldness of your proposition; your choice of strategies is impeccable in the best Napoleonic tradition; unfortunately you have chosen a real ragamuffin for a target, one whose feces is invested in their vocabulary at every opportunity. Regardless, I know in my heart that if ANYONE can save Martin, you are the man of the moment, the chevalier du jour, the one for the job. Courage, mon vieux!! Allez-y!


A

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 05:30 AM

And if the self flagellation doesn't work out, theres one or two mudcatters who would probably help out in that direction....

see if you can teach him Nuages instead of that bluegrass stuff, and get him sorted out with a decent yamaha while you're at it.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,B
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 05:31 AM

Salut Jacques,
You said in your very generous offer to the 'Odious One'
"You will write a long apology to all those whom you have thoughtlessly savaged on this forum"

As you can see below he did attempt something of that nature a while back...but unfortunately he stopped taking the Medication and has returned...not that anyone here REALLY cares that he has (I use he....as he/she/it... would like us to believe that they are a He)

So just to kill some time before I leave for work....here is that apology!!!!

" Martin Gibson BS: For Real. I quit   10 Jun 05

And just like that I have had enough. time to move on, do something else. For any I have caused any harm, I completely apologize. To those I have befriended, stay well.

It's been fun. speculate all you want. but really, I have just had enough.

Take Care."

I admire your selflessness Jacques....I hope you can do what modern medicine has obviously failed to accomplish.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: GUEST,Fartin Gibbon
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 06:57 AM

I find Jews and Judism offensive, it ain't natural! But as long as they do it in the privacy of their own business then I shall let the matter pass. Though the thought of all that Hebrew going on behind closed doors really turns my stomach.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: kendall
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 08:28 AM

Actually Martin, AIDS started among the heterosexual community in Africa, and french fries are not french at all, they originated in Belgium.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Once Famous
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 10:56 AM

Yeah, but people from Belgium are also frogs, just smaller.

Some of the real gays here think they are having a field day, like this frog Jacques.

Jacques, can you say "rivit?"

And yes, I quit when someone physically threatened me. but that matter has been cleaned up and that person has now apologized and quit, so I am back. Glad to be here, also. Telling it how it is, watching Guests who are regular posters continue to be cowardly. Especially the gay ones.

Kendall, yes AIDS started in Africa in the heterosexual community but only after someone fucked a monkey. How it spread worldwide though was not through the heterosexual community. The majority of it who die are not part of the heterosexual community, either.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 11:15 AM

Wow. Now I not only know the types of people who read - and believe - that canard but I know the type and level of things they read. Not only that, I know their heroes.

Amazing.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 11:21 AM

How it spread worldwide though was not through the heterosexual community. The majority of it who die are not part of the heterosexual community, either.

Wrong, monkey-breath. It now is spreading largely through the heterosexual community throughout the world. And the majority who die are children.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Alba
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 11:42 AM

Here's a few "statistics" for anyone who is totally ignorant of the Disease
More than 25 million people have died of AIDS since 1981.

Africa has 12 million AIDS orphans.

By December 2005 women accounted for 46% of all adults living with HIV worldwide, and for 57% in sub-Saharan Africa.

Young people (15-24 years old) account for half of all new HIV infections worldwide - more than 6,000 become infected with HIV every day.

Of the 6.5 million people in developing and transitional countries who need life-saving AIDS drugs, only 1 million are receiving them.

I detest ignorance on such a massive Humanita

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Alba
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 11:59 AM

......Humanitarian issue.( submit button fired ahead without me:>)
Damn there is some really sick thinking in some of the posts on this Thread...really sick.

MG you say to Guest B.... I quit when someone physically threatened me. but that matter has been cleaned up and that person has now apologized and quit, so I am back. Glad to be here, also. Telling it how it is, watching Guests who are regular posters continue to be cowardly. Especially the gay ones.
By responding to the starter of this Thread you seemed to have no problem with a Guest starting a Thread based on their obvious Homophobia! We are all Guests here MG. This is the Internet....wether someone posts an opinion as Guest or under a Mudcat name...we are all anon.
Did you actually THINK about why someone felt so angry towards you? Most likely you thought it was pretty cool that you had managed to get to another Human Being so powerfully..but it sounds to me like you were more than a bit afraid of them whoever it was. To date I have NEVER read anything you post and came to the conclusion that you were 'telling it like it is' All I think is "why is this person so angry, cruel and here in this forum.. when it seems that this person HATES everyone except maybe 2 other posters!!! I do not mean that as an insult, just telling you how it is and like me not caring about your opinions I am sure the same goes for you and mine. Anyhow....back to Brokeback Mountain. A Film that has NOTHING to do with AIDS whatsoever.
What a brilliant Screenplay.
Excellent performances.
Well worth viewing.

Jude

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Amos
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 12:43 PM

Interesting; the excellence of the cinematography and the script have no bearing to a mind swept up in the throes of buttons being pushed. A Canadian friend of mine swore up and down he would never see such a movie, even though he catches almost every good movie that comes out, entirely based on the concept that it had gay cowboys in it. Amazing how powerful bigotry can be, even in something as foolish as watching films.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 12:53 PM

You been talking to Shane, Amos? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 12:53 PM

let's get the guy and the monkey.

greatname for a band.....someone fucked a monkey. i'd buy the album.

Subject: RE: BS: Gay Western - Brokeback Mountain
From: michaelr
Date: 28 Dec 05 - 01:16 PM

Go away, Martin.