BS: Diallers do work on broadband

Subject: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 03:28 AM

I was under the impression that diallers only work with a dial-up service.
Unfortunately the new phone bill shows otherwise, to the tune of £157 plus vat

Internet properties show 'never dial', as necessary to set up broadband, but it still got out.

BT have put a bar on premium rated calls, as we were on broadband - it didn't seem necessary at the time.

Expensive mistake

Good luck to everyone else

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: s&r
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 05:05 AM

Had you left your old modem still plugged in? I was told to remove the dial up modem connector to prevent this.

Stu

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 05:22 AM

Hi Stu

Good point, but there isn't a separate modem, it's incorporated into the PC.

Cheers

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: Mr Red
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 05:50 AM

I bet they can be switched-off but how to? No idea - probably in the BIOS settings (Only accesable on start-up) del or escape or F5 before the POSt checks. read the manual.

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: Scabby Douglas
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 05:59 AM

Yeah, but if the old (internal) modem is physically unplugged from the phone socket, it can't dial out. Is the old modem still physically connected to a telephone scoket?

I've never heard of any way in which scam diallers can utilise broadband technology in the way you describe.

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: s&r
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 06:06 AM

The broadband connection is via a filter unit, and the broadband modem is plugged into this unit via a square plug. The dialup modem connection is plugged in to the filter via a rectangular BT plug. Unplug the BT style plug. (UK details)

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 06:21 AM

Braodband connections cannot run through Analog modems. So if yours is plugged into the /router/modem/ BB thingy, simply unplug the old modem.

:0)

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: Mr Red
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 06:55 AM

just thought but what is the plural of Modem? Moda, modii, modicum?

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: My guru always said
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 07:47 AM

Maybe I'm a bit naive, but my Internet Explorer has a connections section within Tools where you can set your default connection which is where I chose my broadband connection when I swopped from dial-up.........

Sorry you've had such a nasty bill!

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 08:58 AM

Modem - modulator-demodulator - plural is just "modems". Durr :>)

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 09:26 AM

Hi My Guru always said,

Yup ....

tools > internet options > security > 'never dial'


... but it did, which I find very worrying - and passed the firewall as well, hence the warning to others.

Hi sorefingers, as I said, in my set-up, there is no old modem to unplug. The cable from phone jack plugged straight into the tower, we THOUGHT that the internet options, and a firewall would prevent such things.

I know how it got in. My other half has been transferrring his LPs onto his PC, and downloading the relvant artwork.
He had often said that the ?search engines that find the album covers he was after can land him in some nasty sites. One night in august he said had been particularly bad.
It took me weeks to get rid of the mal-ware - all with the same date as the phone calls, as it turns out.

The phone number listed on the bill is 'under investigation' by ICTSIS, hopefully, they will close it down, they must have made a fortune.

Thanks everyone

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: mack/misophist
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:42 AM

Try disabeling the dial up modem with the device manager. Then try a better AV program.

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 10:48 AM

Guest, just try disconnecting the cable to your built in modem and see if broadband still works.

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: s&r
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 11:21 AM

or buy a usb broadband modem about twenty quid.

Stu

Or free with many eg Wanadoo.

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: My guru always said
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 04:34 PM

Thanks for the warning then GUEST, have heard that there are some nasty sites out there which drag you into premium rate! Nasty experience :-(

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: artbrooks
Date: 21 Oct 04 - 05:00 PM

In the US, at least, the DSL broadband cables and the phone cables have different connectors at the PC end, so you disconnect the one when you connect the other.

Subject: RE: BS: Diallers do work on broadband
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Oct 04 - 03:21 AM

Ah! I wonder if the nasty malware was able to do VOIP to place those calls across the broadband....