BS: Breast feeding in public

Subject: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: GUEST,Bob
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 05:23 AM

Yet another crisis looms in our society. Woman are now requesting all businesses and public buildings permit breast feeding in public. No more   heading off to the toilets or broom closet.

I never actually knew it was banned in public ! I think there is a time and place for everything.

Imagine sitting in a restaurant looking forward to your milk pudding and the lady at the next table decides to whip one out and provide lunch.

Things are getting out of hand, I am also sick of those sanitary towel advertisements on television.

Where have the morals in our society gone ?

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: artbrooks
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 05:30 AM

What does feeding a hungry infant have to do with morality? And why should this be done in the bathroom; is nursing associated with defecation?

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Schantieman
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 05:45 AM

Absolutely, Art.

By far the best way to feed a baby (until the last few decades the only way) and why the hell shouldn't they eat where we eat?

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: villandeleted
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 05:54 AM

breastfeeding is infinately better than having the baby screaming its head off becuase it is hungry.
Most women are discreet. I can't think of anything worse for mother and baby than having to go to the toilet to do it.
Would you eat your meal in the bog?

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 06:06 AM

For Gods sake, keep them in. If you think about it, if they can get them out to feed babies, they can get them out for the lads, surely.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 06:17 AM

There was a woman breastfeeding behind me at choir practice in church this evening. Seemed perfectly fine to me. I've always thought that breastfeeding in a rest room was unsanitary.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: skipy
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 06:24 AM

My stance on breasts is well known!
On this subject I believe they should be allowed to feed on demand.
I for one acctually avert my eye, believe it or not!
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Rasener
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 06:40 AM

>>I for one acctually avert my eye, believe it or not!
<<

I think most decent people do Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 07:10 AM

I was at the Gower festival at the weekend and i sat next to a woman who breast fed her 12 week old baby it stopped her screaming during the concert and the mother could watch the concert too.


Scooby

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 07:16 AM

I for one acctually avert my eye, believe it or not!- Skipy

...out of embarrassment, probably.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: villandeleted
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 07:23 AM

Why out of embarrasment. Surely its only polite to avert ones eyes.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: MMario
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 08:14 AM

Back when my niece and nephew were young my sister often breast fed in public - she was discreet and rarely were there objections. Several women in our church have in the past or do breast feed in church. Again, rarely anyone objects.

The strange thing is we DID have some people at the restauraunt I worked in that objected to a customer who was breast-feeding - and when I pointed out that my relatives had done the same on numerous occasions no one realized my sister *had* been feeding the child!

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 08:18 AM

I know that pidgeons like pop corn but what exactly do breasts eat?

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Big Mick
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 08:28 AM

I can't believe this is a subject for a thread. Biggest non issue ever. Get over it.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: DMcG
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 08:36 AM

Guest Bob said: Yet another crisis looms in our society

Would that all our crises were on this scale!

My sister-in-law used to breastfeed in her church as well during services if that's when the baby was hungry. Seems perfectly natural to me.

No-one has picked up your comment on sanitary towels yet. Can you give any good reason why something relevant to maybe a quarter of the population (taking age into account, folks!) being advertised is against morality? Unless you think all advertising is, of course.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 09:07 AM

big issue, perhaps not but you still hear of women being thrown off airline flights for breast feeding etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 09:14 AM

Good lord. Breast feeding is as natural a thing as there is. If our culture weren't so obsessed with breasts (I am not immune) it would not be an issue at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 09:16 AM

It's done all the time at the Library, with mom sitting in a rocker with a shawl discretely over her shoulder, chatting with her friends while the other kid(s) are in story hour. It's a matter of loosening a few buttons and opening a bra. Done and going in a few seconds. Never had a complaint, and unless you know you can't even tell it's being done.

As for ads for "feminine towels" or whatever you said they were -- how about the ads for male "erectile dysfunction" pills? Or for beer?

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 09:19 AM

how about Viagra Beer? omg now there is a $billion idea.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 09:22 AM

This thread was started by a troll. Obviously no one with an IQ greater than their age really cares.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 09:22 AM

I simply don't believe this. What on earth do you think they are actually FOR?????

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 09:54 AM

...but you still hear of women being thrown off airline flights for breast feeding....

Well, I hope the airlines are at least considerate enough to provide a parachute.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Peace
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 09:59 AM

Tell me this, GUEST Bob. Kids eat. That's what they do. They eat, poop and go goo-goo-gaa-burp. Why would you want a mother to hide in a washroom to feed her infant? Many women feed their children in public. They do it modestly and move on with their days. Of much more interest to me is why you perceive a breast to be disgusting. It's a milk bottle with a pre-attached nipple fer krissake. Grow up. Morality? Examine your own!

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 10:01 AM

Thank you Peace. You expressed it quite well. No pun intended!

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Michael
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 10:11 AM

So Guest Bob, It's ok to feed babies chemical concoctions from a plastic bottle with a rubber teat in public but not ok to feed them with what god provided?

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Janie
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 10:14 AM

As MMario pointed out, most people won't even notice that a woman is breatfeeding an infant. Only once or twice when I was breatfeeding, did anyone seem to notice, or if they did, seem uncomfortable or to think it was distasteful. I'm sorry they felt that way, but clearly the needs of an infant take priority over the too delicate sensibilities of some adults.

Janie

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: frogprince
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 10:20 AM

HAPPY TROLLS, TO YOU...

God help us, if some people have their way, we will be assaulted on all sides with sickening sights like these

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Peace
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 10:23 AM

Heaven forfend!

However, it has always been a matter of curiousity to me how women can breast feed and not suffer tremendous pain. I mean, boiling your breast to heat the milk has gotta hurt like a sonuvabitch.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: GUEST,Bob
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 10:35 AM

Clearly by the responses here we live in a very sad society.

I myself think some things are best kept private.

This is all part of this "Hey, Look at me,I am ultra modern liberated woman crap".

Frankly any lady prepared to take her breast out in a public place and feed a child and subject any of us to this sight is disgusting.

Why the need for nappy changing rooms ? just stop a stranger, ask them to hold the baby while the mom puts a diaper on her child. Do it in restaurants, churches or shopping mall.

This is all getting ridiculous.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 10:39 AM

Why do you not except that its law now and good luck to all breast feeding mothers here in the UK.

Scooby.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Amos
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 10:51 AM

I find more ridiculous the thought that breast feeding an infant is in any way disgusting. What part of your reactionary attitude toward body parts has anything to do with morality? I suspect there is a perverse emotional inversion at play here -- the inability to tolerate real life. I would suggest you take your attention offf of others' breasts and direct it toward your own heart.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: GUEST,James H
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 10:52 AM

Come on Bob, tell us why it is disgusting. A breast, a baby... that revolts you because...?

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Pilgrim
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 10:52 AM

Ah, Bob. Although I strongly suspect this thread is something of a wind up, in case you really are that twisted, here goes.

Yes, we do live in an amoral, sad society. A glance up and down the contents page of this site will reveal that people drown horses, kidnap children and stab each other. And in the midst of all this you have chosen to seek out, er, the nursing mother for condemnation.

Yes, some things do really deserve to be kept private and have no place in a civilised society. Bigotry and hate mongering would be amongst these. A child having its tea would not.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: MMario
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:09 AM

Changing stations are available and used for several reasons; convenience, safety of the child, and sanitation.

and I heartily applaud the companies and venues that have added them in *MEN'S* restrooms.

But I've seen diapers changed publicly in all the situations you've described; also on buses, at concerts, and in the lobby of a movie theatre.

Because *my* first stint at diaper changing occurred a few decades ago - I didn't have much choice in where I changed the kids; there were few to no diaper changing stations available to me. And if I had to change them on a seat cushion or floor I wasn't about to do it in a restroom!

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: gnomad
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:10 AM

I'm not sure what the law [if any] is at present in the UK.

I have no problem with women breastfeeding an infant anywhere that it is safe for them to do so. I suspect that many are most comfortable if they can find a quiet corner, presumably to avoid the lascivious gaze of some, and the ire of others, or because they feel that the moment is a private one between themselves and the child. Thoughtful organisations provide such corners, which are often teamed with toilet areas so that the child's other needs may be met, and hygiene maintained. I would not support any organisation trying to insist on the use of such rooms for feeding, but do support their provision.

I would support a ban on the feeding [or "changing"] of trolls though.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: greg stephens
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:14 AM

Dont feed the trolls, only the babies, might be a good motto on this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:17 AM

First off, Bob seems to think that when the babe's hungry Mom just sort of opens up and flops 'er right out.

Bob, it doesn't happen that way. Actually, the breastfeeding I've seen in public provides more coverage for the mother than many (most?) bloused, tee shirts, and swimsuits.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:18 AM

And if it offends you, why not just avert your eyes?

Why do I suspect you're a troll?

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: John Hardly
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:20 AM

What I find offensive in the whole breast-feeding-in-public issue is watching men who stand in line hoping to be next.

But that's just my opinion.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:28 AM

Bob, you can't be that ridiculous. Why are you putting us on like this? Wha secret thrill do you receive by starting a thread that you know is stupid?

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:29 AM

It's a jealousy thing... those blokes are just angry that the babies are getting close-ups of breasts and not them. :D

I could never understand how certain men would openly ogle a pair of nekkid breasts in the newspapers, at the newsagents, on the beach... but as soon as a baby was attached to one, they'd go all 'euuwww, that's disgusting'!

Besides... if women have to stop breastfeeding in public areas, then blokes can stop pissing in the gutters, up walls, in bushes, off train platforms, behind the pub, by the bins, on trees like a dog, over road signs, in the train, out of car windows (yes, I've seen it done!) and in fact, just keep it zipped till you find a toilet!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: MMario
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:33 AM

Sadly - people with that attitude *do* exist and at least some are quite vocal about their disgust with public breast-feeding. since I have a number of friends who are lactation counselors and a goodly number who have breastfed I've witnessed and heard about those who object more then I care to.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: GUEST,Bob
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:34 AM

Here we go again. Bring up a subject you hold a view on and straight away if it doesn't go down well with either the hen picked males on the site or "new woman" you are a troll (I had to read the definition on the web).
I am not here to start an argument,and I am no troll either, just wishing to express a viewpoint about something that I find disgusting in public.

Well having read your opinions I think it's fair to say, Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Peace
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:39 AM

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:45 AM

One lovely Spring evening, Liz, my wife and I were sitting on the back porch enjoying our daily humor show of the golfers on the fairway behind our house (someday the city is going to charge entertainment tax!) when we saw a fellow "water" one of the evergreens on the other side of the fairway.

Oh, what I wouldn't have given to have my air rifle with me! "Reach out, reach out and touch someone...." I promise you a vertical jump of at least 25 feet.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:46 AM

I didn't ever feel that I would be comfortable with breast feeding my own babies in public.

One thing that does concern me is that there are other women who wouldn't feel comfortable doing it either. I just hope that they are never made to feel as though there is something wrong with them because they don't wish to do it.

I can see Bob's point of view. Some women are able to breastfeed discreetly but others make a MEAL of it............... SORRY - I just couldn't resist.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: frogprince
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:47 AM

I don't feel as disgusted at you now as I did, Bob. Now I just feel more sad for your sake, living with such a negative attitude toward a totally normal healthy part of human life.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:47 AM

Yep, Bob is a troll.   It is one thing to have a different opinion, but you state your case in a way that you know will cause a confrontation and you are looking for a fight. Sounds like you are the hen pecked victim looking to justify your own existence.

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:48 AM

Bob,
Did you let your wife breast feed in public or are you a prude?.



Scooby

Subject: RE: BS: Breast feeding in public
From: MMario
Date: 14 Jun 07 - 11:48 AM

Here we go again. Bring up a subject that is disagreed with by virtually every other poster who cares to comment, and it's a case of persecution. It couldn't possibly be that the poster has an uncommon or unpopular viewpoint, it must be that the response is due to the faults inherent in those responding.

And if "bob" thinks that this site is populated by hen-pecked men and "new women" as he has steted, then the choice of subject by definition makes him a troll.