BS: Are you a 'natural person'?

Subject: RE: BS: Are you a 'natural person'?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 09 Jun 07 - 03:36 AM

Do you really believe that this will be "Waco, part 2" ?

Subject: RE: BS: Are you a 'natural person'?
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Jun 07 - 10:01 AM

From what I have read that's exactly what the Browns want...to be martyrs. They are threatening a fight to the death rather than be taken into custody. The feds have been talking with them on a daily basis since January, so they are not in any hurry. If they'd wanted to take them out they could have done so ages ago. Here's a bit of why the Browns are holed up:

The Browns insist federal income tax laws are invalid and stopped attending their trial partway through. They were convicted in January of scheming to hide $1.9 million of income between 1996 and 2003. They also were convicted of using $215,890 in postal money orders to pay for their residence and for Elaine Brown's dental office in neighboring Lebanon, the property seized Thursday. The money orders were broken into increments just below the tax-reporting threshold.

U.S. District Judge Steven McAuliffe sentenced them each to 5 1/4 years in prison. They skipped the April 24 sentencing hearings that ordered them to being serving time immediately.

The couple has described the court as a "fiction" unworthy of their attention and returned government mail unopened.

The Browns answered a telephone call from The Associated Press about 11 a.m. Thursday by saying: "This is the Lord's House. This is Sister Elaine and Brother Edward."

Subject: RE: BS: Are you a 'natural person'?
From: GUEST,Natural Guest
Date: 09 Jun 07 - 07:35 PM

The Browns have gone through all the steps required to exit the fraudulent Income Tax System. That Amendment to the constitution was never ratified, by the way. No one has ever been able to produce the paperwork showing the amendment was ratified. It was just announced as "the law" one day in 1913.

So the Browns have asked to be shown proof that the Amendment was ratified. They've also gone through all the processes you can use to legally exit the taxing system. One of those processes involves making your religious principles public knowledge. You can legally claim that allegiance to God or the Creator supercedes the laws of Man. So they did that, and all the other things required by law to file and buy their way out of the Income Tax system. They have been left with no alternative now but to retreat to their property and tell the 'authorities' to leave them alone. Of course they expect to die. Remember Waco.

No matter what news the government puts out about how bad the Browns are, don't forget that a hundred snipers are surrounding them right now. Surrounding American citizens accused of financial mischief. This action won't scare people like actions against Leona Helmsly did in the old days (was that her name, the woman they busted on tax day to put television fear into taxpayers nationwide?). Now we know what the Federal Reserve and the IRS are, and people are tired of having private banks pick their pockets.

And the jurisdiction of US courts is an interesting subject. Courts have American flags fringed in gold. Whenever you see a nation's flag fringed in gold, that means it is the flag of a conquered nation, under maritime, Admiralty law. So, when a judge is sitting in front of a fringed US flag, he or she is passing judgements under Admiralty law. That's why they constantly say things like, "The Constitution has no place in my court." They're judging you under Admiralty law, not US law. So the quickest way to throw a wrench into legal procedings, and piss off judges, is to ask which 'jurisdiction' they're operating under. Nowadays they just lock you up for contempt of court for a month and then bring you back to start over. Federal courts are in actuality criminal maritime courts (seriously, the piratical law of the sea). The Browns know this are apparently tired of fooling with the pirates in control of the courts.

I thought we all knew this stuff here. Don't believe the government's press releases about the Browns. They're just a couple who figured out HOW they were being taken advantage of, they tried to get out of the system, and now the criminals in control of the government feel the need to kill them.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you a 'natural person'?
From: GUEST,Natural Guest
Date: 31 Aug 07 - 12:56 AM

From an email:

IRS Loses! - Tom Cryer acquitted by jury - video

Here's another story about a unaniimous acquittal by a lawyer who sued the IRS...complete with video: PASS IT ON!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgbYkElqxw0

(Of course, youtube has removed the video, but there's a story about this at the link below):

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56855

A jury of 12 could not be shown the law that Cryer owed income tax, so he was acquitted. This is happening more and more around the U.S. Income tax is voluntary. When you sign your tax form for "last year," you are in reality volunteering to pay taxes for next year. Get a lawyer and get out of the system.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you a 'natural person'?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 31 Aug 07 - 09:44 PM

"could not be shown the law that Cryer owed income tax"

This only applies to the USA...

Subject: RE: BS: Are you a 'natural person'?
From: GUEST,Shaun
Date: 05 Jan 08 - 03:37 AM

I have been watching this thread for awhile now. I can't sit back and watch what everyone is doing to this individual. You are calling this person all types of names and such and putting them down. Well I am an Attorney in Fact, and their are many secrets that you dumbed down people do not know, and now is a very good time for you dumb asses to wake the fuck up!!!

The world is full of illusions!!!

For instance to start off with the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a non-profit religious corporation, a 501(c)3 corporation. It's not a country, It's a church!!! Under what religion are we held? We are under satanic freemasonry rule as a British colony!
The president and vice-president, are the president and vice-president of the corporation so is the treasurer, secretaries, etc.
You should also know that all corporations are fictions in law. All CORPORATION/FICTION are seen by their ALL CAPS NAMES. What makes matters worse is that they have made everyone a ALL CAPS CORPORATE/FICTION. This is done for many, many, reasons but the main reason is control of everything and everyone. A person is a corporate fiction, so is the U.S., STATES (STATE OF CONFUSION, STATE OF AWARENESS, ETC.) COUNTIES, CITIES, ETC.!!!
A human being in a law dictionary is a monster!!! A NAME is something given to a slave!!! ETC., ETC., ETC.
But ALL LAW IS CONTRACT LAW. For example: Are you a U.S. CITIZEN? What this question is really asking you is were you born within the 10 square mile area known as WASHINGTON, D.C. or a 14th amendment citizen? You can make a CORPORATION NAME anything you want to, it doesn't make it so. Just like the UNITED STATES are NOT the states united. So we were fraudulently put in the D.C. jurisdiction by contracts of our SHADOW GOVERNMENT.
We are all under Admiralty/maritime law NOT common law. Admiralty/maritime law supercedes the constitution, and any and all law. Admiralty/maritime law is the "Law of the World". In other words if you were pulled over for speeding, arrested for anything, broken any so-called law, IT HAS TO BE ON THE OCEAN OR SEA TO LEGALLY CONTRACT IN WITH THEM!!!
A judge is a high priest of the freemasons but in actuality their hasn't been a judge since 1789!!!! You need a lawyer to re-present you because you are a fiction and the judge cannot see nor hear you without one!!! Real living people cannot be re-presented by lawyers because they have no juris-diction over living people, only fictions. Juris means oath, diction means spoken from the mouth. The BAR ASSOCIATION stands for the BRITISH ACCREDITED REGENCY/REGISTRY. Jails and prisons are privately owned warehouses and are only holding corporate entities/fictions, the fictions are warehoused and have to be bonded just like any other warehouse no matter what the merchandise. They cannot hold real living people. That's why they had to create the "strawman" a man of no substance, a third party transmitting utility, to use as they see fit. Merchandise is a sea term like the merchant marines. When a so-called judge ask you, do you "understand" what you are being charged with, he is asking you to "stand under" his jurisdiction and all charges so they can do what they want to you, as you are assuming the unaware role for the fiction!!! When they ask you this ALWAYS ANSWER WITH NO! I DO NOT STAND UNDER THESE CHARGES!!! If they ask you how you plead guilty or not guilty, you have to realize that they have taken out the innocent plea back in 1973, and their is a huge difference. Always plead non-assumpsit because you are telling them that you are NOT ASSUMING the role of the fiction and your not playing their game!!! Coincidently, where do you play basketball, tennis, etc,.... on a court, it's all on big sick game they want you to play, just like you play tennis with a racket, it's all one huge gigantic....wait for it....RACKET!!! ....Hmmmmm........I could go on and on....just like Jordan maxwell says.....We are all word controlled beings, and they do not make these words up by mere chance....everything is for their purpose and gain from the mindless wage slaves!!! LAND OF THE FEE, AND HOME OF THE SLAVE!!!
We should learn by this to NEVER contract with these bastards. But now we are under fake government, fake laws, fake names, fake states, counties, cities, etc. Living and going along with the illusions like they were real.
The only power they have is the power that we give or have already given to them, and we have obviously given them way too much.
House joint resolution 192 of June 5th of 1933 4:30pm, The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, the non-profit religious freemasonry satanic corporation is BANKRUPT!!! Hello! Their is NO MONEY!!! We are paying so-called debts with debt money promissory notes!!! Look at your satanic freemasonry 1 dollar bill!!! Real "living souls" cannot owe a debt, be in jails or prison, or do business with anyone legally!!! But they are!!! Do "real people" really realize that everything is already paid for by our u.c.c.-1 filing? That if we accept the presentment, charge, bill, monetary value, etc. WE WOULD ALL BE MULTI-MILLIONAIRES FROM THE SO-CALLED DEBT ALONE!!!! Guess not, ignorance=stupidity!!!
I know all about the illusions but other people not knowing is why I have to suffer. It's also the reason 12 mason cops broke into my home, kidnapped me, made me take their drugs 3 times daily for 90 days imprisoned until I was forced to illegally contract with them.
They don't want me teaching people the truth, but I refuse to be fearful of "the powers that be". As for other people, get some balls, it's time we take what is rightfully ours. Stop living in the illusions and feeding them!!! Ignorance is not bliss!!! It's literally killing the ones on this earth that are trying to save everyone from this hideous monster that has been let run amok.
I have only barely scratched the surface with all the illusions, the amount of actual research material would astound and bewilder the public. We have been fooled and duped into living in a fairy tale nightmare, when will it ever end?
When we look at the presidential candidates, and truly understand these illusions, we can then see why Ron Paul has an overwhelming advantage to us, the real living people. The truly bewildering question would be that if Ron Paul actually won, would it actually change anything in the illusions we are trapped in? Would the "powers that be" allow such a thing as sovereign citizens (real living people instead of fictions), the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA MASONRY CHURCH changed to a actual country, the subsidiaries like the states, counties, cities, us, wal-mart, target, mc donalds, etc given actual free enterprise and are real? Would they allow doing away with these fictitious corporations including the treasury and IRS, and ALL CORPORATIONS for that matter since by so-called law all corporations are fictions? Will we actually be able to own our own land, home, vehicle, ourselves (souls), or anything for that matter? Etc., Etc., Etc..............
To tell you the truth I like Ron Paul, and he is the best candidate that we have. But.....their is something that bothers me. It makes me feel like their is something else going on that we don't know about. He is noted as being a MASON with all the signs in place. I would personally love to have a one on one conversation with Ron Paul, and ask the real questions, the ones that the majority of our populace have no clue or hint about.
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The fastest way to find out who is the legal owner is to stop paying property tax and see who sends you notices, or knocks on your door, demanding payment.

"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
J. Edgar Hoover

The FCC is the government agency that licenses and regulates "free speech."

Regulation is control!


All that is necessary for evil to triumph, is that good men do nothing.

"The Matrix is a system Neo, and that system is our enemy. When you are inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters: the very minds we are trying to save. Until we do, these people are part of that system and that makes them our enemies. You have to understand that most of these people are not ready to be unplugged and many are so hopelessly dependent on the system, they'll fight to protect it."

(Morpheus, from "The Matrix")

Just my 2 cents worth.....Wait....Why is it that you only get a penny for your thoughts but you have to put your 2-cents worth in?
Who's pocketing the difference?

With kind regards from a real living soul,
Shaun

Subject: RE: BS: Are you a 'natural person'?
From: GUEST,Wynetta
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 11:20 PM

So your saying that all I have to do to correct this thing is put my name in regular grammar? If thats the case tell me how?what? and when?

Subject: RE: BS: Are you a 'natural person'?
From: artbrooks
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 11:24 PM

Upper case - but probably not. Do you have your towel?

Subject: RE: BS: Are you a 'natural person'?
From: quokka
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 11:43 PM

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