Chords: Railroading and Gambling (from Tom Paley)

Subject: Tom Paley Railroading And Gambling
From: olddude
Date: 12 May 08 - 08:11 PM

Does anyone remember Tom Paley. Looking for chords. Thanks

Subject: RE: Tom Paley Railroading And Gambling
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 May 08 - 08:21 PM

Well, yea.....he's a fiddler. Chords? Eh?
And what has Tom to do with gambling???????

Euclidate please....

Subject: RE: Tom Paley Railroading And Gambling
From: olddude
Date: 12 May 08 - 08:48 PM

guitar, and he plays guitar, banjo, fiddle and just about every other thing . And railroading and gambling was a song in 1956 i believe it was 56 or there abouts with the new lost city ramblers

Subject: RE: Tom Paley Railroading And Gambling
From: open mike
Date: 12 May 08 - 08:48 PM

Euclid? he is much younger than Euclid!
Check on threads about New Lost City Ramblers...
here is a more-or-less complete discography
and I see Railroad Blues and Railroad Bill
and Broken Down Gambler and Roving Gambler.
Do you suppose it is one of those songs you are looking for?

Subject: RE: Tom Paley Railroading And Gambling
From: olddude
Date: 12 May 08 - 08:54 PM

please see link below


http://play.rhapsody.com/thenewlostcityramblers/newlostcityramblers/railroadingandgambling?didAutoplayBounce=true

Subject: RE: Tom Paley Railroading And Gambling
From: olddude
Date: 12 May 08 - 08:58 PM

now that I found the song I am good to go
thank you

Subject: RE: Tom Paley Railroading And Gambling
From: open mike
Date: 12 May 08 - 09:01 PM

Subject: RE: Tom Paley Railroading And Gambling
From: Severn
Date: 12 May 08 - 09:03 PM

Sorcha-
He recorded it originally with The New Lost City Ramblers on their first album playing the banjo in the style of Uncle Dave Macon who recorded the 78 he learned it from. Back then he played banjo, guitar and dobro-the fiddle is a relatively recent addition to his arsenal.

Olddude-
It might have been included in "The New Lost City Ramblers Songbook" published by Oak Publications back in the 1960s sometime.

Also google Uncle Dave Macon and see what you can find. I replaced my LPs and tapes with the two JSP boxed sets that contain all of his commercially recorded works, so I forget which of the individual albums scattered around on County, Folkways, MCA/Decca and the like that it was on. Another boxed set was put out in Germany on the Bear Family label. The Macon version was anthologized on LP on "Smoky Mountain Ballads" (RCA Vintage LPV 507) which was later condensed a bit onto a Camden/Pickwick cheapie LP (ACL 7022). It was also included on LP on "Nashville-The Early String Bands Vol.1" (County 541) which, I believe is available as a CD, so you might google County Records.

Happy hunting!

Subject: RE: Tom Paley Railroading And Gambling
From: open mike
Date: 12 May 08 - 09:11 PM

That link did not go anywhere for me..
here are others, though
http://213.198.22.181/music/nlcrfrm.htm
from this site
http://www.ibiblio.org/keefer/r01.htm
Railroading and Gambling [Me II-T33]

   1. Macon, Uncle Dave. Nashville Early String Bands, Vol. 1, County 541, LP (1976), trk# A.02 [1938/01/26]
   2. Macon, Uncle Dave. Smokey Mountain Ballads, RCA (Victor) LPV-507, LP (1964), trk# 12 [1938/01/26]
   3. New Lost City Ramblers. New Lost City Ramblers, Vol. 1, Folkways FA 2396, LP (1958), trk# 6
   4. West Orrtana String Band. West Orrtana String Band, Revonah RS-924, LP (1976), trk# A.07

There is more about thus song in the Uncle Dave Macon link here too
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=31041&messages=79&page=1&desc=yes

Subject: RE: Tom Paley Railroading And Gambling
From: olddude
Date: 12 May 08 - 09:12 PM

I will see if I can snag a copy of "The New Lost City Ramblers Songbook" published by Oak Publications   there are a number of songs that I have not heard in years and would be fun to do.

thanks for the info, appreciate it

Subject: RE: Tom Paley Railroading And Gambling
From: olddude
Date: 12 May 08 - 09:15 PM

hmmm that link took me to a free rhapsody page with the complete recording along with others
try this
http://play.rhapsody.com/thenewlostcityramblers/newlostcityramblers/railroadingandgambling

Subject: ADD: Railroading And Gambling
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 May 08 - 01:40 AM

Hi, Olddude -
As far as I can tell, the song is not in the New Lost City Ramblers Songbook. It is on the 1958 self-titled album by the New Lost City Ramblers.

Here are the lyrics from the album notes:

RAILROADING AND GAMBLING

What your mama done told you
Six months ago,
Keep on your hat and coat,
Be ready to go.

(CHORUS)
Railroading and gambling,
Picking up chits for a madman,
Lord, Lord, Lord.


Been in the State House
Been in that yard
Been in the coalhouse
Worked least of all.
(CHORUS)

Said that preacher,
Golly ain't it a sin,
Johnny get your britches
'Cause here comes the wind.

Out on the railroad
Down on the track.
Lost all my money,
No way to get back.

John - banjo and vocal

The liner notes say only that Uncle Dave Macon recorded the song.

Subject: RE: Tom Paley: Railroading And Gambling
From: Stewie
Date: 13 May 08 - 03:20 AM

See also my message (16 Jan 06) in the Uncle Dave Macon songs thread about the Brandy Snifters take on this:

Uncle Dave thread

--Stewie.

Subject: RE: Tom Paley: Railroading And Gambling
From: olddude
Date: 13 May 08 - 08:32 AM

Hey thank you very much
http://www.wirz.de/music/nlcrfrm.htm

it looks like it was on their 1958 recording but not listed on the back cover

The New Lost City Ramblers

- Forked Deer
- Don't Let Your Deal Go Down
- Truly Understand You Love Another Man
- Dallas Rag
- Tom Cat Blues
- Railroading And Gambling [track not listed on back cover]
- Colored Aristocracy
- Sailor On The Deep Blue Sea
- East Virginia Blues

- Battleship Of Maine
- Davy
- The Roving Gambler
- Take A Drink On Me
- Likes Likker Better Than Me
- It's A Shame To Whip Your Wife On Sunday
- Brown's Ferry Blues
- The Old Fish Song
- Crossed Old Jordan's Stream
Tom Paley, Mike Seeger, John Cohen

Subject: RE: Tom Paley: Railroading And Gambling
From: olddude
Date: 13 May 08 - 08:35 AM

Thank you for the uncle Dave thread

Subject: RE: Tom Paley: Railroading And Gambling
From: Leadfingers
Date: 13 May 08 - 08:41 AM

I havent seen Tom Paley for a week !! He can be seen regularly at Sharps Folk Club in C Sharp House in London !

Subject: RE: Tom Paley: Railroading And Gambling
From: GUEST
Date: 13 May 08 - 09:45 AM

I wish he was performing somewhere close to me. I saw him on a youtube video yesterday. He still got it for sure. The guy can play anything and is amazing from what I can see

Subject: RE: Tom Paley: Railroading And Gambling
From: olddude
Date: 13 May 08 - 09:56 AM

Joe Offer
many thanks for the lyrics
that was very nice of you

Dan

Subject: RE: Tom Paley: Railroading And Gambling
From: GUEST,Shakespeare's Head
Date: 13 May 08 - 09:59 AM

I haven't seen Tom Paley for 39 hours and 9 minutes.

Do I collect a prize?

Will

Subject: RE: Tom Paley: Railroading And Gambling
From: open mike
Date: 13 May 08 - 11:01 AM

I haven't seen Tom for a couple of years.
I organized a house concert for him and
he stayed at my house and we jammed!!
What an honor. He tours the u.s. every
now and then. He lived in Sweden for
years and now is in England, as you
can see by the posts above from our
U.K. catters. He is a treasure!

Subject: RE: Tom Paley: Railroading And Gambling
From: Surreysinger
Date: 13 May 08 - 12:52 PM

No Will - I suspect you probably do not win a prize, as I think that was about the time that I saw him too, and indubitably in the same place [grins]. Share it with you ??
Irene

Subject: RE: Tom Paley: Railroading And Gambling
From: oombanjo
Date: 13 May 08 - 02:49 PM

Tom is president of FOAOTMAD and is regularly at Gainsborough and other get together's

Subject: RE: Tom Paley: Railroading And Gambling
From: GUEST,Edthefolkie
Date: 14 May 08 - 06:51 AM

I haven't seen Tom since 1976 at the Enterprise in Haverstock Hill.

He was learning the fiddle then as I recall, even so there was only slight heckling.

Hope the Enterprise and especially Marine Ices are still there!