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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ed T Date: 02 May 10 - 10:01 PM Too much myth-information |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ed T Date: 02 May 10 - 10:06 PM Eugenic breeding helped the wolf evolve into the Taco Bell dog; just think what Mike could do for the human race. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 02 May 10 - 10:23 PM Always good to get an outsider's opinion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 02 May 10 - 10:33 PM Okay, back to the beginning on this one. Bill Gates said, "First we got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent." Pay attention. He's talking about OVERPOPULATION and what he wants to do about it. He wants to lower it by 10 or 15 percent. How does he propose to do that? With vaccines, health care, and reproductive health services. Reproductive health services are abortions. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=reproductive+health+services&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= And as we've seen with the recently-passed Obamacare bill, "health care" is the rationing of life-saving medical care. And vaccines...did you do your homework and read about Baxter trying to murder all of Europe? Bill Gates just ADMITTED he's a genocidalist. He couldn't have made it more plain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Rowan Date: 02 May 10 - 10:56 PM Of course, if you are not full of US-biassed versions of hoe words are used, you might see the UNFPA material accessible from a URL visible at the same link; A full sexual and reproductive health package includes: Family planning/birth spacing services Antenatal care, skilled attendance at delivery, and postnatal care Management of obstetric and neonatal complications and emergencies Prevention of abortion and management of complications resulting from unsafe abortion Prevention and treatment of reproductive tract infections and sexually transmitted infections including HIV/AIDS Early diagnosis and treatment for breast and cervical cancer Promotion, education and support for exclusive breast feeding Prevention and appropriate treatment of sub-fertility and infertility Active discouragement of harmful practices such as female genital cutting Adolescent sexual and reproductive health Prevention and management of gender-based violence Most of those who are properly informed in this field understand that, when women are able to exert effective control over their reproductive abilities, birthrates decrease. Which is, I suspect, what Gates was implying. Cheers, Rowan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 03 May 10 - 02:12 AM In poorer countries that have no systems to take care of the elderly, the children have to take care of their parents when they reach old age. To assure themselves that they will have someone to take care of them, and because of the high rate of infant and childhood mortality—due to easily preventable diseases—couples have many children in order to make sure that there will be someone to care for them. With a double-edged program, such as vaccinations to prevent childhood mortality AND good sexual and reproductive health programs (including birth control and post-natal care), couples would not feel the need to have large broods of children (an heir and a spare, and another spare, and just in case, another spare, and another, and. . . .). And women could exert some control over their own bodies and decide when enough is enough. Thereby reducing the explosive birth rate in poorer countries. Michael, you simply don't understand—or with your mind-set, don't want to understand—what Bill and Melinda Gates, and others, are talking about. The idea that the purpose of the vaccines is to either kill people off or to sterilize them is another example of the befuddled nightmares that conspiracy-theory paranoiacs (of the kind you are showing every symptom of being) are so fond of embracing. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 03 May 10 - 06:12 AM One thing that makes that kind of distortion more plausible is that there is that there is a history of that kind of thing happening - policies aimed at getting rid of "inferior" people which have been disguised as ways of helping them. The result is that when that kind of accusation gets raised in the context of things happening today, it can sound plausible enough, even if it may not in fact be true. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Riginslinger Date: 03 May 10 - 12:10 PM There's a certain amount of Darwinism that takes place as a result of unintentional consequences. Like Mothers-Against-Drunk-Drivers, for instance. They've moved to save the people who might have been killed by drunk drivers, but guitar players who used to do gigs in bars are now compelled to stay home and drink themselves to death. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: SINSULL Date: 03 May 10 - 12:30 PM My son attended a special ed school. A parent there shared with me that social workers had recommended sterilation for her daughter who is severely retarded. The girl is everyone's friend and a perfect target for anyone wanting easy sex. She would be incapable of handling pregnancy nevermind a child. Eugenics? The goal is to protect the girl from herself. Her mother, by the way, decided against it for a variety of reasons. Now she hopes that a pregnancy doesn't happen. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Amos Date: 03 May 10 - 12:46 PM Evolution is often misdefined as the law of the jungle, red in tooth and claw. That is only part of the overall picture. This crude mechanistic view of Darwinism is (IMHO) misinformed. THere are lots of excellent aspects to good survival that focus on ideals, justice, aesthetics and ethics which support the species' broad survival without the tooth and claw aspect of single-organism survival. Anyway, Michael is a nutball, to put it gently. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Riginslinger Date: 03 May 10 - 01:27 PM But he must have evolved from something! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Gervase Date: 03 May 10 - 01:36 PM Since when have they been installing PCs in lunatic asylums? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ed T Date: 03 May 10 - 03:40 PM Just how many politicians, present and future, would exist with Eugenics? OK, I know that's a benefit...But, how just how well would Michael measure up, under a human eugenics approach to reproduction? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 03 May 10 - 05:35 PM There's a certain amount of Darwinism that takes place as a result of unintentional consequences. Like Mothers-Against-Drunk-Drivers, for instance. They've moved to save the people who might have been killed by drunk drivers, but guitar players who used to do gigs in bars are now compelled to stay home and drink themselves to death. And this is bad... why? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Bill D Date: 03 May 10 - 07:05 PM 3 days I've been gone, and others have said most of what *I* would have said to our resident paranoid fearmonger....I'll just add my comment of his thread title: "Eugenics -- evidence all around you" 'Evidence' has a bit tighter definition than THAT sort of linguistic Gerrymandering! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Riginslinger Date: 03 May 10 - 07:18 PM "And this is bad... why?" The people driving the cars that weren't hit by drunk drivers might have been genetically defective. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 03 May 10 - 08:41 PM Then THEY have to do something to kill themselves. That's kinda how that evolution stuff works. Otherwise it's just random noise and not evolution at all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Riginslinger Date: 03 May 10 - 10:10 PM Doesn't there have to be a preditor? I mean like a school marm or a trombone player from the Salvation Army, or something? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 03 May 10 - 10:33 PM No -- it could just be that people with a certain gene wander off cliffs. And the predator has to actually select the prey in such a way as to kill off the members of the prey species with certain hertiable traits (for instance the gazelles with "slow" genes get et and thus the herd as a whole has fewer "slow" genes and so the % of the herd without them continues to grow until that gene is gone). If a predator just preys randomly, and there is no trait that the prey share, then nothing is selected for or against. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 03 May 10 - 11:05 PM http://www2.moment.net/~michael/Eugenics.htm My evening's work. Amazing quotes. Hundreds, thousands of them. This is just a supplementary page and I could add to it for weeks. This'll take a while. I'm glad to see my "superiors" have spent the day making 'tard jokes. Gliberals. I'd forgotten about National Security Study Memorandum 200. Kissinger's genocide plan. Look at what Clowes has to say about it at the bottom of that page. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Amos Date: 03 May 10 - 11:16 PM You know, Michael, if you omit enough data and take enough things out of their context, you can make the sanest group in the world look like a band of gibbering banderlogs. Of course, you have to distort the information like mad in order to do that, but this seems quite within your capacity to do. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 03 May 10 - 11:36 PM Obama's DeathCare is bringing back the sterilization clinics. He doubled funding for "Progressives" have a long history of "looking after" their inferiors by murdering them. It's not too late to change your ways, Amos. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 04 May 10 - 01:13 AM You're looking up the wrong end of the horse, Michael. You have things totally bass-ackward. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Sawzaw Date: 04 May 10 - 01:14 AM Jesse did say he wanted to cut Barry's nuts off so there must be something to it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ed T Date: 04 May 10 - 06:38 AM "There is NO DENYING the natural world would be a better place without people – ALL people! Not a selective bunch. Get it straight." Rebecca Calisi, student of Eric Pianka Some odd quotes here: http://www.infowars.com/eugenics-quotes-from-lofty-ideals-to-highly-centralized-population-control-run-by-psychopathic-maniacs/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 04 May 10 - 09:37 AM ""But he must have evolved from something!"" You reckon? I'd have said devolved, or more accurately regressed. Homo Sapiens with nowt left but the sap! Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Donuel Date: 04 May 10 - 08:19 PM http://www.shoaheducation.com/lebensborn.html I should tell you a story about a Jewish American man who served in WW 11 and adopted a Lebensborn boy with blonde hair and blue eyes. It is a story that proves that nurture rules all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 04 May 10 - 10:26 PM http://www2.moment.net/~michael/Eugenics.htm Updated, it at least has the shape of the final piece. I'll make adjustments. A page with my thesis at the top, a numbered outline, then articles referring back to the outline. Plus a page of quotes. Both pages will be added to as time permits. I found that "eugenics" didn't adequately cover what I was describing, so I expanded the scope to encompass the various ways in which the ruling elite keep our numbers down. And I don't think I'm looking at the wrong end of the issue, Don Firth. Maybe I am, but I don't think so. I think most on this forum are older, and I expect there's experience here going back to WW2 and back into the eugenics programs of the 30's, so that's a personal perspective I don't have. But the thing is, the people who run the world take advantage of our compassion in order to make us self-regulate. None of us wants someone else to live a life of misery, so we're receptive to ideas on how to alleviate that misery. And if we abort/kill/sterilize, well that's just one less life the Windsor/Dupont/Rockefellers have to take in an expensive war. They use our good intentions against us, and they do it for their own gain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Amos Date: 04 May 10 - 10:49 PM Only those who volunteer their energies, Michael. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: catspaw49 Date: 04 May 10 - 11:47 PM "And I don't think I'm looking at the wrong end of the issue..." Actually you are. Ever since you were at the Circus and that elephant sat on you......well, you've been fucked up. But I can be tolerant. I know it must be hard to have any viewpoint at all with your head so deep up an elephant's ass. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 05 May 10 - 12:04 AM Speaking of asses, it's been a pleasure handing yours to you on a platter. Look at the articles on that page. Evidence of eugenics is indeed all around. And I've just begun. That page can be added to the rest of my life. And I might not have pursued it without your abuse catspaw. Thanks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 05 May 10 - 12:17 AM Michael, I was born the year before Franklin D. Roosevelt was elected president. I am old enough to remember World War II. And, I might add, despite my age, my mind is quite clear and my memory is very tenacious, thank you. I have heard this nonsense about how the Rockefellers, the DuPonts, and a number of others were (are)—although the cast of villains has changed over the years—going to take over the world and enslave us all. Seven decades have passed and it hasn't happened. I am reminded of the many times I've heard that the End of the World will occur on such-and-such a date. The date comes and passes, and lo! the world is still hear. It doesn't stop the same people, totally unembarrassed by the fact that they still exist in mortal from, from shrugging their shoulders and setting another date a bit further forward. Then again. And again. And yet again. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: catspaw49 Date: 05 May 10 - 12:21 AM Oh that's okay. I didn't bother to look at it but there are hundreds of thousands of stupid ass pages clogging the web. Yours are just a few more from yet another nutjob striving to be somebody.....although you also can claim the time spent buried up that elephant's ass toward a Guiness record.......... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: LadyJean Date: 05 May 10 - 12:22 AM Some years ago, I went to a women's clinic. I was absolutely certain I wasn't pregnant. I kind of wished I was, since pregnancy clears up mostly by itself in 9 months. I was bleeding in mid cycle. Any woman will tell you what that means, and that it can be a symptom of something very very nasty. In my case it wasn't. At no time at said clinic did we discuss birth control or abortion, because I wasn't there for either service. They don't perform abortions on women who aren't pregnant. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 05 May 10 - 09:02 PM One of the stories I linked to on my page, LadyJean, is about the tetanus shots the World Health Organization used in third world countries until pretty recently. The vaccination programs targeted women of child-bearing age, even though that group had no higher incidence of tetanus than other groups. One of the things found in the shots was hCG. From the article: ...when hCG is introduced into the body coupled with a tetanus toxoid carrier, antibodies will be formed not only against tetanus but also against hCG. In this case the body fails to recognize hCG as a friend and will produce anti-hCG antibodies. The antibodies will attack subsequent pregnancies by killing the hCG which naturally sustains a pregnancy; when a woman has sufficient anti-hCG antibodies in her system, she is rendered incapable of maintaining a pregnancy. So, the women were going in for tetanus shots, and then for the next ten years or so, their pregnancies would spontaneously abort. The World "Health" Organization did that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 05 May 10 - 09:04 PM How They are Exterminating Us Updated with some stuff, mostly about Baxter/Bayer (a couple of murdering pharmaceutical companies), the murderous Rockefellers and such. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ebbie Date: 05 May 10 - 10:24 PM Michael, if "they" are trying to exterminate us and trying to keep "us" from breeding, it does not appear they are having much success: Six (6) billion people versus - what? maybe 300? Don't you think they might have come up with a more efficient method? Maybe birth control in our drinking water, say? It must be very frustrating seeing the "common" people keep breeding. pppptttt |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 05 May 10 - 10:45 PM It's getting pretty deep. Where is Winston Rothschild, III when you need him? Time to send in The Truck!!Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 06 May 10 - 12:17 AM Oh, they're having successes, Ebbie. You're not screaming about the murder of 50 million + babies since Roe v. Wade, so they're doing something right. And they've convinced people that 2 child families are the "sustainable" rate, when any moron would know that early death HAS to factor into things. So if ALL people got married and had 2 kids per couple, the population of a society would still decline. So they've succeeded in overcoming common sense. They have you cutting your own throat and laughing about it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 06 May 10 - 01:05 AM Who, anywhere, has said that 2 is a sustainable birthrate? All the figures I have ever read were two point something, to factor in early deaths (among other things). If anybody ever said 2.0 was sustainable, they were wrong. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Donuel Date: 06 May 10 - 01:57 PM Eugenics is just a form of inbreeding that was first and formost in Royalty and today to a lesser extent between ultra rich families. Eugenics is extinct and passe'. The new programs that go far beyond eugenics will involve gene therapies and deliberate gamete genome selection. Yet try as you may you will still end up with an individual that may not present the traits that you force to be expressed. Not to put to fine a point on it... everything Spaw said. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 10 May 10 - 08:31 PM http://www2.moment.net/~michael/Eugenics.htm There. I think I've spent enough time on that. More than a dozen articles. Read 'em and weep. In the last article Obama kills 330 million in 2009 with the ethanol program. What a guy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: catspaw49 Date: 10 May 10 - 08:44 PM It gives me great pleasure to say that I never read anything suggested to me by a total asshole and thus have never gone to any of your websites! Like I said before Limpdick, you're just another nutjob trying to be a "someone." Take it on the arches Icky! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ebbie Date: 10 May 10 - 08:48 PM IchMael, I don't know how others feel but in my opinion you are a tool. I frankly do not believe that your mind is capable of analysis. You are being used by others to fulfill their own agendas. Good luck and goodbye. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 10 May 10 - 08:59 PM Left you a little clicky on the home page, Spaw. I wouldn't have developed The Mudcat Pages if not for you. Go look at your Mo Dees clicky. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: catspaw49 Date: 10 May 10 - 09:23 PM Sorry dickwad....Anything you had to say about Mo Dees would be a joke. Why not clog the web with a dozen or three more loads of crap? Real folks will get a laugh or a cry over it and know you're a broke-dick Bubba with the IQ of a fig newton. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 10 May 10 - 09:50 PM You know, I'm waiting (with a touch of glee in my black little heart) for someone, maybe even a whole bunch of people, to get together and sue this sucker's butt off for all the libelous stuff he's putting on the web. There's a tubful of it, and he just keeps piling it higher and deeper. Defamation of character--of many people--who would have both the legal right, and quite possibly the incentive to nail Michael for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars in damages. And I don't think they'll take a credit card. You really ought to take a look at it, Spaw. It's a real study in sheer hate. Amazing! And you can't hide, Michael. The IP number of your computer (sort of like "caller ID") is available to anyone who wants to trace you. In fact, any computer-savvy teen-aged can do it easily. Lot's of people who think they're putting stuff on the web anonymously don't know that! Don Firth P. S. Or if the folks you're bad-mouthing are really as evil as you claim, what's to stop them from coming for you and—to put it euphemistically—"persuading" you to put a sock in it? Pleasant dreams. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 10 May 10 - 10:39 PM lol. You folks still think this all merely "Obama bashing." You've called me racist, retarded, hateful...but that's okay. You've been sold the two-party lie, and you think I'm with "the other side." But I'm on YOUR side. The Dem/Rep machine lied about fire in the World Trade Center towers. They work in concert to depopulate. They fund the FBI so it can entrap Americans. On and on. That stuff isn't good for any of us. And that fear stuff, Firth...you need to get over that. This isn't East Germany, man, it's America. Grow a pair. Here's a blurb about Spaw's hero, Morris Dees: ...Morris Dees [founder of the Southern Poverty Law Center] won a judgment for a black woman whose son was killed by Klansmen. She received $51,875 as settlement. Mr. Dees, according to an investigation by the Montgomery Advertiser, pulled in $9 million from fund-raising solicitation letters that featured a particularly gruesome photograph of the grieving mother's son. Mr. Dees, who pays himself an annual salary of $275,000, offered the grieving mother none of the $9 million her son's death made for him. http://www.thesocialcontract.com/answering_our_critics/southern_poverty_law_center_splc_info.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Donuel Date: 10 May 10 - 11:12 PM Real Eugenics: is currently pursued by the longevity research and numerous other gene therapy studies that owe a debt to the Human Genome Progect. Belief Eugenics: is in the minds of hate groups like White Power. BAD NEWS FOR WHITE POWER GROUPS Science has collected enough viable Neanderthal DNA with the aid of interpolation between Chimp and modern human genes that a comparison has now been made. The verdict is that Neanderthal is human with a wider varient than current races and fully capable of bearing the child of a modern human. NOT ONLY THAT! BUT Only the modern Caucasian and Asian races today show segments of unique Neanderthal genes in their genome, but Africans have no such Neanderthal genes unless they have interbred with white races. So it seems the racist notion that Africans are some sort of ape or cave man is turned on its head. Its only white people who have cave man genes in their blood. This discovery tickles me pink. When it comes to "racial purity" and having no caveman genes in his blood, it is the African and not the "noble and refined" white man. Sure its how you look at it but the mixing with Neanderthal took place about 40,000 years ago with people who were already differentiated from Africans over a 30,000 year span. When you think about whites and Asiatics/chinese being the only descendants of Neanderthal interbreeding, it explains a lot of shit. ...like the difference between W and Barry. I once met a man in Lackawana who had a Neanderthal face and stature in the emplyment office of a Steel Plant. If ever there was a throwback he had every feature you would expect of a Neanderthal. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Donuel Date: 10 May 10 - 11:13 PM Did you hear what I just said? |
