BS: Recipes - what are we eating?

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 05:16 PM

Mrrzy, do you put breadcrumbs in your meatballs? That's the traditional way to make them less like a hockey puck.

Donuel, I thought I had experienced Peak Mango with a large red specimen shipped to Canada from Jamaica, but your Mammoth Mango seems to have taken you to an even more exalted region of Fruit Nirvana. I shall look for that variety in the extra-special fruit'n'veg store the next time I'm in The Big City.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 05:31 PM

Use a mixture of pork mince and beef mince. Mix gently with your fingertips then roll into balls very gently - no squeezing - which are quite small, about as big as a cherry tomato. You can add whatever you like to spice them up, but you don't need egg or breadcrumbs. My current favourites are meatballs made as above but with caramelised red onion chutney added to the mix. These are fried for about eight minutes in extra virgin olive oil to brown them. Set aside and make a spicy tomato sauce in the frying pan, using top-quality tinned plum tomatoes, seasoning, fresh basil, chopped garlic and chilli. No onion. Once the sauce is made, throw the meatballs in and heat through for a good few minutes. Superb with your home-made oven chips or with good crusty bread. Use only free-range pork mince and beef mince that is at least 10% fat, preferably more. If you want rock-hard meatballs, squeeze them too much, cook them for too long and head for low-fat mince. Low-fat is a dirty word.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 06:04 PM

I do not use bread crumbs or egg. Hmm. I do add fat... These were bison with chopped mushroom stems and minced garlic and onion, oregano and marjoram, hot paprika, and duck fat, barely mixed then plopped into the caps of the mushrooms. Slice of fresh tomato on top of each. Toaster oven at about 325, about a half hour. Ate out of a bowl as there was so much juice, it was delish, but the meat part between shroom and tomato was what I am working on.
Sometimes I make them outside of a tiny tomato each. They aren't *dry* but it is not the texture I am reaching for...

Thanks!

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 09:28 PM

Despite the black spot scourge on oranges from Florida there is a special naval orange called #1. They were the the best oranges in my life.

I admire the skill some people have acquired in the art of flavours and presentations of special dishes. I was never exposed to that discipline so luckily I am happy with fish and chips and bangers and mash.

I knew a girl Hanna who free loaded/lived on Maui for a year and she turned orange from eating almost nothing but Mangos off the trees.
I now understand the special diet.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: JennieG
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 09:53 PM

Here's a mango recipe idea from a cook book published by my son's primary school in 1988. I can vouch for it being very good.

Mango fruit dip:

Peel a mango, remove stone and mash flesh with a fork. Stir in one tablespoon or so of flaked coconut - preferable not shredded as it's too messy to eat. Stir in enough sour cream to make it runny. Cover and refrigerate overnight, it will be firmer when cold.

Serve in a pretty dish in the centre of a platter, surrounded by fruit for dipping.....whole strawberries, pieces of stone fruit (apricot, peach, plum), anything your little heart desires really. I have also served it dolloped on cut-up fruit salad.

Makes a pretty centrepiece for a table, when we can entertain more than two people again. I have served it as a Christmas table centrepiece.

Somehow, though, I suspect a mammoth mango might be a bit much for this!

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Sep 20 - 11:17 PM

Capriccio salad tonight, from thinned out basil plants (I put seeds in a pot a few weeks ago, and they're all about 4-6" tall now), some mozzarella balls I've been meaning to use, and some grape tomatoes. Drizzled with Balsamic vinegar. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 02:32 AM

Low fat = no flavour.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 07:08 AM

Should have said, low fat low flavour.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 09:41 AM

That sounds like one excellent mango, Don! In her book Under the Tuscan Sun, Frances Mayes described eating some fresh Italian pears that were so good you "needed to eat them in private."

I find mangos purchased from stores where they sell a lot of them and sell to customers who really know their mangoes means I get the best mangoes. So I shop at the Asian or Halal market and they're usually much better (probably handled correctly and allowed to ripen properly). This usually means not storing them in a refrigerated space.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 09:58 AM

My father, who served in the British navy during the Second World War, ate his first mango in 1943 at a shore station near Mombasa. Beached for a short time between a radar course in South Africa and his next ship, he took his turn as Petty Officer of the Watch, which meant supervising the base defence force. He chose to conduct his hourly tour of the perimeter sentry posts by way of the mango trees that grew all over the area, much to the amusement of the Kenyan soldiers who did the actual guarding.

I suspect that, after four years of war and Royal Navy rations, he would have stopped at little to get his hands on freely available fresh fruit.

When we asked how one eats a mango, he said, "First, take off your clothes and get into the bathtub."

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 18 Sep 20 - 12:14 PM

Dad told me he was a leading seaman and doing extra duties for leaving something unsecured. He did his rounds with a rifle with its bayonet fixed, and the amusement largely came from the way he used the weapon to extend this reach for the fruit, which were in trees with biting insects (ants of some variety, as I recall, so likely a symbiotic relationship).

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion
Date: 19 Sep 20 - 12:31 PM

I stand corrected on the rank and reason. The rest of the story stands.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 19 Sep 20 - 02:07 PM

You were likely still correct on both points. Maybe the wartime RN was different, but one can still be a leading seaman and tasked as the Petty Officer of the Watch, and that can be a task assigned as an extra duty (master corporals are regularly scheduled to serve as Base Duty Sergeants). Dad recounted the story when I had asked him if he had ever had to do extras.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Sep 20 - 04:16 PM

Yes - I thought about ants when I read the story about picking fruit (thinking he was lucky if there weren't ants). We were staying with my in-laws in the West Palm Beach area of Florida where mango trees grow easily. On a walk we tried picking some but the fire ants were vicious. We suffered for the fruit we did manage to pick.

Today I was at the gourmet discount grocery I visit for bulk items and the "Saturday Market" that opens into the warehouse had lots of carts and pallets of fruit, including some mangos that were mostly too soft but I found a few that were just right. They aren't the usual green/orange ones but they aren't the yellow ones either. Amazingly smooth consistency and a nice sweet slightly tart flavor. Eaten leaning over a kitchen counter and plate, undressing not required.

I picked up vegetables also, and berries, etc. I found several pounds of mushrooms and the dehydrator is now running. Saturdays can sometimes be a zoo down there but I timed it to get in and out in 15 minutes and people stayed pretty well spaced.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Raggytash
Date: 20 Sep 20 - 06:18 AM

Beef Wellington for us tonight. A nice 2lb 2oz piece of fillet with chicken liver Pate and pureed mushrooms in a puff pastry parcel.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion
Date: 20 Sep 20 - 08:08 AM

Oh, Raggytash. You’re my kind of guy.

I have never managed to put all my various cookery skills together sufficiently to mount a Beef Wellington. It’s the pastry part — everything else is well within my capabilities.

Do you make your own puff pastry, or buy it frozen? (First or seventh dan black belt?)

When I want to get fancy with fillet steak and pâté, I go with the comparatively easy Tournedos Rossini.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Sep 20 - 08:16 AM

Ooh I *love* tournedos rossini. Imma try that soon, thanks for the memory.

I have no wish to try making beef wellington. Love the dish but yeah, no.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Raggytash
Date: 20 Sep 20 - 09:08 AM

Making puff pastry is fairly easy ........... but time consuming.

Rough puff pastry is even easier.

However ..........

On this occasion I cheated and bought some.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 08:14 AM

Its so cold I made chili con carne' with real fresh chili peppers. The heat is subtle but long lasting with a pleasant quintesence.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 08:15 AM

I have puff pastry in my freezer. Also phyllo. Afraid to try either, really. But I have a virtual recipe swap coming up...

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Raggytash
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 08:44 AM

My good lady got a phone call from our Daughter-in-law, could Nick make me some of his wonderful Chilli-con-Carne.

8 portions will be delivered to her this afternoon, two portions will be kept for to-nights meal.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 10:08 AM

Did you mean ' filo ' pastry ? Mrrzy ?

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 10:35 AM

Same thing, different spelling. I've made it from scratch - once - that's why I buy it now.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Sep 20 - 03:55 PM

Yes it is probably correctly spelled phi something lambda something!

I saw my mom make it by hand so I have reason to be afraid...

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion
Date: 24 Sep 20 - 10:36 AM

I have not maintained, let alone improved, the pastry skills I learned in my teens, when I could produce quite excellent flaky pastry with two knives and a fork. Those days are long gone; now, I can knock together a pie dough (plain pastry to you, Raggy) with the help of a food processor, but puff pastry and filo (phyllo) are well beyond me. It took me a while to conquer my pride, but the frozen article is just fine, especially since Himself doesn't have to listen to me swearing half the afternoon.

Today supper will be Kaessler, or smoked pork chops, a local delicacy. I dunno what breed of pig they come from, but Kaessler tend to be sizable; Himself (who favours Big Food) came home from the market once with a specimen so large that I could barely squeeze it into the grilling pan.

We had our first frost last weekend, so w have probably seen the last of the sweet corn for this year. Sad ...

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion
Date: 26 Sep 20 - 02:39 PM

I purchased a whole brisket today. It was on special (that‘s my story and I’m sticking to it). I may yet come to regret this.

My current cunning plan is to separate the layers of meat — the flat and the point — and trim off the excess hard fat, and freeze the pieces for future reference.

Any advice youse all might have to offer is eagerly anticipated.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Sep 20 - 12:33 PM

I have a tub of fresh mozzarella balls that I've been drawing down slowly before they're too old. I also have some commercially organic grape tomatoes that are the only store-bought tomatoes that actually taste like the home-grown ones. And I have a pot of basil sprouts and every day or two I thin a couple of the sprouts out and make a salad, drizzled with balsamic vinegar.

I enjoy various forms of sweet potatoes (the Beauregard variety is what we get here most often) and I'm going to boil then mash a couple of large ones. Add a little orange juice, some pumpkin pie seasonings, and it's almost dessert with no added sugar. At Thanksgiving I make that in a large casserole and top it with browned marshmallows, a classic illustration of "gilding the lily."

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Raggytash
Date: 27 Sep 20 - 02:14 PM

With a brisket I would dice some onions, some carrots, a touch of leek, a bit of celery and braise the brisket for several hours.

My grandmother, who was a superb cook, would add Barley.

As a child I hated Barley (and still do) but I defer to her abilities so a hand full of Barley would add a touch.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 12:55 AM

I eat a lot less meat than I used to. At one time it was a chicken breast on each plate along with the rest of the meal and the entire breast would be eaten by each person. A steak, a large pork chop.

I baked a chicken breast with ribs yesterday and stored it in the fridge to use for the next couple of days. I picked up some hot fresh corn tortillas this evening so I shredded part of that breast (about 2/3 of the meat), seasoned it, and rolled it into eight tortilla "flautas" that are fried in shallow oil. Two is plenty for a meal, topped with guacamole, sour cream, some hot sauce and some chopped iceberg lettuce (good for dishes like this because it adds a crisp topping). There are three more meals to go from the rest I stored in the fridge, and the rest of the chicken might go in a sandwich, might be sliced and put in marinara sauce on pasta, etc.

There are still times I will eat a larger portion of the protein part of the meal - it more often has to do with fish than meat.

Have others noticed this tendency? I think for me it has to do with cutting back on meat because of awareness of how meat is processed, handled, and most importantly, raised. Meals usually cost less with less meat, and certainly I get a lot more groceries for the dollar if I'm not buying meat every trip to the grocery store. And it isn't healthy to eat as much as we used to.

I haven't caught up with every post lately, so apologies if you've already discussed this recently.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 01:48 PM

So, Raggytash, with respect to brisket, you belong to the European/Jewish faction that prefers to braise? Do you know anything about “breaking down” a packer brisket — I.e., separating the flat from the point?

I’m more and more convinced that I should freeze the whole thing and cook it whole, when we have the five thousand to feed.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Jos
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 03:21 PM

My first bit of advice regarding brisket would be DON'T cut the fat off. It's delicious. Especially after long slow cooking.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 04:16 PM

You must keep the fat if you're going to cook the brisket barbecue fashion. I used to buy sandwiches from an early version of a food truck (back in the 1980s) - the guy told me that sometimes people brought him meat to barbecue for them but they'd cut off too much fat and he'd have to find some extra from one of his to add to it, to keep the meat tender through the slow process.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 06:59 PM

When discussing brisket we should be clear as to whether we're talking about cooking it "flat" or cooking it rolled. Mrs Steve and I wouldn't cook huge hunks of brisket as we'd never munch our way through it all. My ideal, for two, would be a piece weighing about a kilo or just a bit over. One hot, one cold. And it would invariably be rolled and tied in our house. I agree about leaving the fat on, though I always insist that there is only a limited amount of sinew inside the roll.

I brown the brisket all round in my Le Creuset deep casserole with butter (snug fit necessary) then remove the meat. In the meaty pan I then add some roughly chopped carrot, onion and celery, along with about 100g of pancetta cubes, frying that lot hotly for about five minutes. If it needs more butter, it needs more butter. Then I need some stock, enough to go halfway up the piece of beef. I don't go a bundle on stock cubes, so I might make a veg stock by boiling up any scruffy celery, carrots and onions I have, along with a bay leaf, thyme and parsley, and, crucially, the soaking water from a handful of dried ceps (beware sand in the bottom of your ceps soaking water). You can chuck the mushrooms in as well if you like, but that isn't to my taste.

Put the brisket back in, on top of the veg, and season well. You definitely need a bouquet garni (a bunch of parsley, thyme and a bay leaf, tied with string). Add the stock up to halfway up the joint. Bring it to the simmer. Stick the casserole, lid on, in a low oven (maybe 130 C) for a good four hours. The lid should be really well sealed, so a piece of foil on the pan, then the lid, is good.

About once an hour, turn the brisket over.

This is grand with mashed potatoes and a simple green veg. You'll have all the sumptuous gravy you need.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion
Date: 28 Sep 20 - 08:19 PM

So.

Following instructions from an Australian caterer's video (the only one with the camera pointing down at the meat so I could see what she was doing), I separated the flat of the brisket from the point, and took off a lot of the fat, concentrating on the big hard lumps that don't render out. Leaving a substantial quantity behind, I still removed about two kilos of fat from 6.5 kilos of brisket.

The two pieces -- flat and point -- are now in the freezer until the appropriate occasion comes up.

Meanwhile, in another part of the forest, I made a leek and potato soup (also contains celery, onion and carrot, so not canonical) using stock from a ham hock I cooked a couple of weeks ago to go with beans. With thyme, black pepper and a little allspice, the flavour is quite boffo.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Raggytash
Date: 29 Sep 20 - 04:39 AM

Steve has it right Charmion.

My Grandmother would put it in the oven before she went to Mass at 8.30 ready for Sunday Lunch at 1 O'clock.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion
Date: 29 Sep 20 - 10:44 AM

I use Steve's technique for pot-roast, Raggy, usually with a cut we in Canada call a chuck roast that is otherwise good for little but hamburger.

Brisket is the cut used for pastrami, known here (and very popular) as Montreal smoked meat, so it isn't widely available in supermarkets -- the delicatessen people grab most of them. But our local Sobey's occasionally gets a shed-load of large hunks of meat, such as whole beef tenderloins, so I always look in the Deal of the Day area when hunting and gathering. This brisket is the first I have ever seen that was not a special order and the centrepiece of somebody's garden party. I ascribe its appearance to the growing popularity of American-style barbecue, by which I mean low-temperature cooking with smoke.

Such a huge cut of meat is what I call rich people's economy. With the more common whole beef tenderloin, for example, you pay a risible price per pound and break it down yourself, thus obtaining at least a dozen servings of fillet steak plus super-lean off-cuts to put in your mince. BUT you have to be able to cough up a substantial sum (more than Cdn$75.00) without time to plan for it, you need freezer space to store what you don't eat immediately, and you need the kitchen skills to cut it up and trim it correctly, and then cook it properly.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: leeneia
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 01:48 PM

Here's a recipe I invented for chuck roast. You need to buy a bag of cranberries in the autumn.

one slow-cooker liner
one chuck roast
some cranberries
1 Tablespoon molasses
1/4 teaspoon cinnamon

Line the slow cooker. Remove excess fat from the chuck roast, place it in the cooker. Place cranberries all over the top of the meat. Slow-cook on low 8 -9 hours or until tender. Just before dining, remove the roast to rest a while. Stir in the molasses. Wet the cinnamon and add to the liquid.

Slice the meat across the grain and serve with noodles.

(I like to chill the meat overnight and remove the fat from the liquid.)

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: leeneia
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 02:05 PM

I should mention that one must be careful with slow-cooker liners. They save a lot of clean-up, but if you lift the batch out of the pot while still in the liner, the liner can break, possibly dumping the hot food and causing bad burns. (I've had one break, but I wasn't burned.)

To refrigerate the food, the best idea is to set the cooker in the sink, then lift the bag out while slipping the bowl under the bag as it comes out. Use a thin bowl, such as a steel one.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 02:08 PM

Why bother with the liner, Leeneia? Washing a crock-pot isn’t all that difficult, surely?

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Jos
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 03:07 PM

And don't remove the fat - even if you can't bring yourself to eat it, the meat will taste all the better for having been cooked with it.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 Oct 20 - 04:41 PM

Lamb bacon. Just sayin.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion
Date: 02 Oct 20 - 01:06 PM

And where do you obtain lamb bacon, Mrrzy? The idea has appeal, I must admit.

This weekend, I shall try braising lamb shanks in our new Kamado Joe cooker. I have a recipe, and I'm not afraid to use it. (Yes, a pan is involved, and it sits on the grill. The idea is to infuse the braising shanks with delicious smoke flavour.)

I am still learning about effective use of charcoal in the kamado; only the largest chunks are truly efficient because of the need for airflow through the fuel basket. After 20 years of cooking on a gas grill hooked into the house fuel supply, I'm still coming to terms with the price of charcoal, especially the large-lump kind the kamado needs. Guess what? It's the most expensive kind there is.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: leeneia
Date: 03 Oct 20 - 12:21 AM

Re: the beef

There will be enough fat to make the dish rich and tasty.

If beef is cooked in the slow cooker for a long time, a tough, burned-on ring will form all the way around. Both my slow cookers are quite heavy and awkward to handle. So I use a liner.

A few years ago I decided that after fifty years of cooking I could spend a little money making cleanup easier. So I buy the following:

slow-cooker and oven-roasting bags
parchment paper for under roasting meats
disposable gloves for really icky jobs
non-stick spray as necessary

I don't want to be a person who gets too old and tired and quits cooking.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Oct 20 - 11:21 AM

Farmer's market, Charmion. I have been eating the Uncured but might try the Smoked next time.
How it can taste like both bacon and lamb simultaneously is beyond me. Sooooo goooooood.

Small adventure of the day: decided to pound my flank steak flatter before marinating it. Stuck it in the big ziplock [unsealed] bag I was gonna use for marinating it, and pounded it. It got a little bigger but not a lot thinner, but hey. Took meat back out of bag and put all the dry stuff in (onion and garlic powder, hot paprika, marjoram oregano savory, salt) and picked up the bag to mix those before adding oil and vinegar, and it went EVERYWHERE ... I had split the bottom of the bag pounding, and not noticed.

So got what was left into a new bag, mixed, added some vinegar and a a little more oil, mushed in all into a paste, spread it out around the bag, put the meat in, squished it all around, it is now sitting in the fridge. I will flip and resquish every few hours till dinnertime.

Cleaning up was a riot. Someone is gonna have to move my stove, a bunch went between it and the counter. And my socks smell marvy!

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Charmion
Date: 03 Oct 20 - 11:43 AM

I have made that mistake more than once, Mrrzy. Somehow, it never happens in a spot where the fall-out won't land under and behind the stove or fridge. Murphy's Law in action.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: sciencegeek
Date: 03 Oct 20 - 05:58 PM

just had my first bowl of stuffed pepper soup, something I've only seen locally here by Lake Erie...

nice thick soup perfect for this cold, damp day and seems simple enough to make at home:

diced green pepper, ground beef, rice, diced onion, chopped tomato and some canned tomato sauce or puree... saute ingredients and then long simmering or use crock pot... minimal seasoning and serve with fresh bread

to me, it tastes better than having stuffed peppers which never seemed to meld the flavors in an enjoyable fashion

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Oct 20 - 06:02 PM

I was thumbing through recipes in my old Fanny Farmer Cookbook and noticed one I've never even read through on the same page as my favorite sweet potato recipe (deLux, with marshmallows).

It's a potato (Irish) recipe that I'll give a try and if it works I'll report back.

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Oct 20 - 11:47 PM

I make a pan-fried sliced potato regularly, sauté in olive oil usually, and lots of spices added, including smoky paprika. Today I was looking at the potato recipes in the book above and spotted "Lyonnaise potatoes." I tried making it according to that recipe and didn't end up with what it suggested I would - apparently if you mix everything just right and cook really slowly the bottom browns and it cooks together enough to be "flipped over like an omelet." Didn't happen, and it came out a little too caramelized, but is still edible. I then turned to YouTube.

The version I see there uses either uncooked or or sliced previously boiled potatoes, plus the onions and the butter and salt and pepper. And I'll make it in the way I do my regular pan-fried potatoes, just adding the onion after the potatoes have partly browned so they don't burn. (The recipe demonstrated on "Cooks Country" will work just fine for me, but no layer of potatoes like the book suggests.)

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Oct 20 - 12:16 PM

Easy remedy Stilly River Sage, cook the potatoes in one pan and the onions in another and then mix!!

Subject: RE: BS: Recipes - what are we eating?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Oct 20 - 01:21 PM

The flank steak was yum, despite adventure.

It is the only cut of beef I make well. Most of my steaks are tough.