BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?

Subject: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: GUEST,Old Guy
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 02:20 PM

Who would Osama vote for in the upcoming presidential election?

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: Amos
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 02:48 PM

OSama would not vote -- he doesn't believe in voting, and he is not a citizen.

If I were Osama I would feel a LOT safer with a president who started wars in Iraq and Iran, rather than opne who might have the brains to notice I hadn't been caught yet and do something effective about it.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: Once Famous
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 03:01 PM

He would vote for Amos because he thinks he knows more than the President.

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 03:09 PM

And for once Martin you are right.

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: Nerd
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 03:09 PM

Osama would vote for Bush.

Osama's goal was to create a war, not between the US and Al-Qaeda, since he couldn't win that war, but between the US and radical Islam. He figured that mainstream Islam is at least as likely to support radical Islam as to support the west. However, for his gambit to work optimally, the west had to cooperate and alienate mainstream Islam by slaughtering civilians and destroying iconic Arabian cities like Baghdad. Osama counted on us to do that for him, polarizing the world.

Bush did EXACTLY what Osama wanted. The US is now at war with radical islam, is playing that war all wrong, slaughtering thousands of innocent Islamic civilians, destroying Baghdad. Many more muslims are now sympathetic to radical organizations than before.

Best of all, Osama is still at large! He expected he would have to be made a martyr to get such great results. Even HE couldn't have predicted how thoroughly Bush would comply with his wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: pdq
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 03:09 PM

Ignore Amos.

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 03:11 PM

Osama would vote for John Flipflop Kerry because he is a sneaky shifty knowitall bastard like him.

ME

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: Once Famous
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 03:12 PM

I really believe that Osama told you all that himself, Nerd. BTW, what did he have for dinner last night?

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: Nerd
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 03:34 PM

I think he had a hearty plate of goat turds, MG!

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: pdq
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 03:51 PM

Probably turds and whey.

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: Once Famous
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 04:00 PM

I'm sure that improved his breath.

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 08:18 PM

My guess is...Bush. But I think Osama would be reasonably pleased with either one of the Presidential candidates. Still, Bush has a better track record for encouraging and prosecuting holy war than Kerry does. Bush has more experience at it. Kerry's position on wars is a bit wishy-washy at this point, given his protesting the Vietnam War. He's not really bloodthirsty enough. So I'm guessing Osama would much prefer Bush, and would be downright foolish to cast his vote for Kerry. Kerry might weasel out of Armageddon somehow. Bush will not. If you're seeking martyrdom and fullscale international conflict, you want a real war hawk on the other side, not a semi-hawk pretending to be a dove or a semi-dove pretending to be a hawk...or whatever the heck it is that Kerry's doing. I sure can't figure it out.

Remember, Osama is convinced that God will give his side the victory. Accordingly, he wants war, bloody war, irreversible war, a fight to the finish...in as many places as possible. Bush has delivered on that so far and can be expected to continue to deliver. Kerry is an unknown quantity in that regard.

Al Queda wants Bush for another 4 years! They need him like America needed Saddam. Beyond that...well, there's always Jeb Bush or the enactment of a permanent state of emergency and suspension of American elections to look forward to.

Allah could not possibly stand aside and let Kerry win this election. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 08:27 PM

"Al-Qa'eda would vote for the re-election of President Bush. It regards President Bush as the best recruiting sergeant ever" - that's the British Ambassador in Rome - a career diplomat, as all British ambassadors are - talking, off the record, at a big meeting of diplomats a couple of weeks ago.

Except someone leaked his words to the press, and embarrassed the British Government, which has to pretend that they are neutral, and not desperately hoping the Bush is turfed out by the voters in November. Here's a link to a recent thread about it - BS: 'Al-Qa'eda will vote for Bush'.

I mean, even among those who are in favour of this war, who would want to be stuck with an ally ruled by a demonstrably incompetent President and administration?

On the other hand, if you were Bin Ladin, those are precisely the kind of people you'd want to be in charge of the USA, one who has acted in such a way as to further the global objectives of Al Qa'eda, which is now far stronger than it was three years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: dianavan
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 08:50 PM

Osama was just another rich kid looking for fame. Does he need Bush or Kerry? Not anymore. He got what he wanted. He probably doesn't give a rat's ass about the Moslem faith or any other religion. He just wanted to feel powerful and important.

He did what he did and got away with it. The U.S. isn't even looking for him or they wouldn't be wasting their time in Iraq. Osama was just a reason to inflame the public and wage war on a Moslem country. As far as I can figure, Bush probably paid him to create chaos in the U.S. so that they could curtail American freedom and invade Iraq at the same time. Thats why he hasn't been 'found'.

d

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 09:03 PM

Dianavan - Are you kidding??? My impression is that Osama is a true believer, a man who gave up everything (in the sense of a cushy, safe, wealthy material lifestyle) to risk his life fighting first the Russians (where he was in much combat and got wounded), then the Americans. This was a man who expected to die for the cause. Yes, he probably does want to feel powerful and important (you could say that of a great many people), but what in the world makes you think he "doesn't give a rat's ass" about Islam?

I'm really curious what would have led you to believe that, Dianavan.

And yes, I think it's quite possible that the Bush administration was in collusion with him in some way, regardless. After all, he did work for the USA for quite a while before becoming "the enemy".

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Sep 04 - 10:50 PM

Osama can't vote cause he is dead of cancer or kidney failure. He hasn't made any tapes lately. He looked half dead in the last one.

Jock

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: dianavan
Date: 30 Sep 04 - 12:39 AM

Little Hawk - I think it may be that he sees himself as a "defender of the faith" but I think its only a pretense for his lust for recognition. He is a zealot and doesn't really represent most Muslims. Although I recognize and sympathize with the plight of ordinary Muslims, I certainly do not think he is a true believer. If he truly cared about anyone other than himself, he would never have subjected so many to so much misery. You don't think he ever expected a positive outcome, do you? He's the ultimate martyr! Trouble is, he's taking alot of folks with him.


d

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 30 Sep 04 - 01:45 AM

Osama is a Dictator - he already knows what is best for the people - God spoke directly to him - he is on a 'Mission from God' - these people never really want 'the populace' to be independently free-thinking, because then they may start to get 'wrongful ideas' and want to throw the dictators out of power...

Sound like anybody else in politics you know? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Sep 04 - 06:34 AM

Al Qaeda wants four more years. Bush has proved to be incompetant and a weak leader. He can't even keep his own cabinet from feuding in public. He doesn't have any hope of making peace in the mid east.

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 30 Sep 04 - 08:14 AM

I think he wouldn't give a damn one way or the other, for he has his own agenda, but he'd be very pleased to see so many posters in this thread and in the other, for that means he is perceived by many as someone who counts.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Sep 04 - 08:58 AM

Well, the American forces who are trying to hunt him down seem to think he counts.

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 30 Sep 04 - 10:03 AM

He would vote for himself of course. And we would discover that there was a 200% turn out of the voters.

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: dianavan
Date: 30 Sep 04 - 01:02 PM

Little Hawk - Why do you think American forces are trying to hunt him down? I'm really curious about where you get this information. Where are they looking? Do they need a hint?

Maybe they should try Pakistan, Kashmir or Afghanistan instead of Iraq. On the other hand, he could be in Southern Sudan.

d

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 Sep 04 - 01:10 PM

It would be very agreeable if he didn't count, but he does. Not necessarily as an individual, I doubt if it would make the slightest difference if he died, or if he was already dead (which he well may be), but symbolically. In fact dead he would probably be a more effective counter.

In fact I rather assume that when people say "Osama", or when they say "Al Qa'eda" they don't necessarily mean an individual, or even a coherent organisation, they mean an ideology.

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Sep 04 - 01:22 PM

Well, I think they are trying to hunt him down, Dianavan, but I may be wrong. :-) I'll tell you why they're really in Iraq AND Afghanistan, though...oil and oil shipping routes, that's why. Strategic postioning in a vital part of the World.

Why would they want to catch Osama? It would be a nice feather in Bush's cap to help him win the election in November.

That's my theory.

On the other hand, keeping Osama on the loose indefinitely could be handy too...if they don't need him to win the election. It provides further excuses for further military adventures. I figure they can always find another bad guy if they need one, though. All it requires is a few months of lurid propaganda to get the American public all worked up...or another terrorist attack stateside. Either contingency could be arranged, I'm sure.

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Oct 04 - 11:54 AM

This just in: Osama would vote for jOhn from Hull!

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 01 Oct 04 - 12:15 PM

Oddly, your mental image of jOhn as described in the other thread uncannily matches mine of Osama. I suspect election tampering.

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 01:08 AM

He would vote for Gengiss Kahn.

Oma

Subject: RE: BS: Who Would Osama Vote For?
From: dianavan
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 03:34 AM

Osama would vote for the highest bidder.

d