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Subject: Hiking Wales From: GUEST Date: 09 Mar 02 - 05:42 PM Hey, ummm Hesperis told me you guys might know where a good spot in Wales for hiking would be. If you could give me some advice it would be really appreciated. Thanx |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Gareth Date: 09 Mar 02 - 06:42 PM Just remember, if Wales was flattened it would be bigger than England. But try Walking Offas Dyke from the Severn to the Dee which should take you a fortnight. Or the Taff Trail from Kairdif (cardif) to Brecon 2 Days. Or the Pembroke Costal Path 3 days ish !!! Get Hesperis to PM me id you want more detail. Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: hesperis Date: 09 Mar 02 - 06:45 PM Hiya, LB! *waves* Thanks, Gareth! Yep, this guy is my friend, and if you phoaks can help him out that would be great. (I've never been to Wales, much as I'd love to.) ~*sirepseh*~ |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: catspaw49 Date: 09 Mar 02 - 06:47 PM I would think that swimming would be more appropriate with whales as I was unaware they could walk...........where do they fing the hiking boots for them? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Noreen Date: 09 Mar 02 - 06:48 PM Well there's lots of it! Would you prefer mountains, countryside, or long- distance coastal or inland paths? Or a particular part of Wales that you want to explore? Miles from anywhere, full-day walks, or walks from B&B to country pub for lunch? No shortage of advice here if we know what you want. :0) For a start, see: |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Matthew Edwards Date: 09 Mar 02 - 06:54 PM Llangollen for access to Clwydian and Berwyn hills - and for being a nice place in itself. There are plenty of hotels, Bed and Breakfast homes, and a Youth Hostel as well. Beddgelert or Capel Curig are better bases for Snowdonia where there are lots of excellent high level walks (in British terms as Snowdon itself is 3560 feet). There are good routes in the Carneddau and the Glyders, and a real feat is to complete all the 13 3000' in one day - only really feasible in summer by a very fit person. Is this the sort of thing you are interested in? or did you have more gentle activities in mind? "Hiking" appears to mean different things in various contexts, but if you are interested in exploring the hills and mountains of (North) Wales I'd be willing to assist - it is my favourite recreation - no, make that second favourite! |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Llanfair Date: 09 Mar 02 - 06:55 PM Yes, a few clues would be handy. Do you like isolation or tourist traps? Wales has lots to offer. Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Jon Freeman Date: 09 Mar 02 - 07:06 PM Just look Snowdonia on the map. Hiking... Capel Curig would be good... PM Pip Freeman and you will get some if not all of the ones like Moel Siabod, Carnedd Llewellyn, Carnedd Daffydd, Tryfan, Yr Wyddfa, etc... .. Elsewhere, Pip loved the Pembroke coast path... (Gareth, remember you didn't even give the highest peak in Cymru any mention or give any N Wales place credit) Jon |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Gareth Date: 09 Mar 02 - 07:16 PM North Wales ? North Wales ! A differnt Country ! Gareth |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Jon Freeman Date: 09 Mar 02 - 07:32 PM LOL Gareth and I think we both know there can be truths in that idea... From my side, I was born in England (Shropshire), lived in in N Wales twice (at least 3/4 of my 41 years on this planet)... now live in Norfolk, (England)... Wales boasts some of the most beautiful country in the UK but I don't know much... N to S, used to love it though when I had 2 wheels (Honda 200) and did the A470/A487 then a bit to St Davids before turning back... Jon |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: GUEST,Loren Date: 09 Mar 02 - 08:16 PM wow!!!! thanx alot I'm interested in exploring mountains away from most tourists, um... I'd like something of a challenge, but I've been at school for the last couple monthes, so... um... what else might you want to know... oh, I'll be going in mid April and I'll have about a week to spend. |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Matthew Edwards Date: 09 Mar 02 - 08:49 PM One word of advice - DON'T try high level walking alone, Even in summer, let alone April, conditions can change rapidly, and clouds and mist can quickly disorient you. It isn't dangerous if you know where you are and you have got a companion, but there are circumstances where a slight mistake can have serious consequences. It can happen to people who think they know the hills like the palm of their hand. However a few days in the Welsh mountains is a great cure for anything; the views, on a clear day, are amazing - from Yr Wyddfa it is sometimes possible to see Scotland, Ireland, The Isle of Man, and of course Wales and England. This is known as being able to see six kingdoms - the sixth being the Kingdom of Heaven! Have a look at the Youth Hostel association site (the definition of "youth" is fairly elastic!)YHA |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Liz the Squeak Date: 10 Mar 02 - 09:16 AM Dolgellau - a lovely place, some really lovely walks around it and it has a hiking shop and a Tourist Information centre where you can buy walking guides. Mountains there are the Cader Idris range which can be a bastard even in fine weather. Walks range from easy (short fat asthmatic found it not too gruelling and did it in 2.5 hours) to the '12 hours, do not attempt alone, do not attempt between October - May. Survival gear may be necessary! The water table is very high, most of our walk was actually upstream! Good waterproofs and strong boots are necessary, not an option. On the "couch potato" front, there was easy car access to 2 shopping villages about 12 - 15 miles away, didn't try public transport. To find places to stay, just do a search for Tourist Information Wales. I found the most wonderful farm house that is right on the slopes of Cader. Mountain at the bottom of the garden, sheep on the front lawn, cows out the back.... and NO MOBILE PHONE RECEPTION!!! Bliss! Telly reception was a bit dodgy, but didn't get chance to watch much anyway. Dolgellau has some wonderful places to eat, particularly the cafe/bakers in the marketplace.... great view of the locals going about their business and the biggest fry up I've had this side of Sidmouth. PM me and I'll send you the details if I can find the book. LTS |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Jon Freeman Date: 10 Mar 02 - 09:27 AM Oh and thinking of Dolgellau, let's not forget Sesiwn Fawr in July. I never made it but I know quite a few people who have thoruoghly enyoyed this event. Jon |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Crane Driver Date: 10 Mar 02 - 09:34 AM If you fancy coastal scenery, come to Gower, near Swansea, Britain's first designated area of Outstanding Natural Beauty. The South Coast (its a peninsula) is especially striking, superb cliff walks. And on Sunday, come to the Greyhound Inn at Oldwalls, on the North side, for the Halfpenny Folk Club. You're very welcome. Andrew |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Dave the Gnome Date: 10 Mar 02 - 10:01 AM Having just returned from the Lleyn peninsula I can confirm it is terrific around there - and 'off the beaten track' for most parts. In fact we lost the track on many occasions but that's another story... There is an ancient pilgramage route from Bangor to Bardsley island (about 80Km) which passes through Clynnog-fawr where we stayed. It is coastal in the main but very minor detours would take you up some of the most dramatic coastal hills I have seen in a long time! There is also a plethora of bronze age remains for anyone interested in that side of things. Including a stone circle on a traffic roundabout just outside Caernarfon!!! Cheers, good luck and happy hiking! Dave the Gnome
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Peg Date: 10 Mar 02 - 11:19 AM Conwy is a town at the very tip of North Wales, build around a medieval castle (just a shell now) and I found it very pleasant hiking in the area; like to the site of a ruined castle at Deganwy, two miles out of town...the bus ride in, which goes past Caernarvon and Betys y Coed, is also lovely Peg
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: hesperis Date: 10 Mar 02 - 08:48 PM Whoa, much info... I need to PM a few people with LB's email addy. Will do that tomorrow.
LB, if you go I am going to be soooooo jealous! ;D |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Jon Freeman Date: 10 Mar 02 - 09:15 PM Peg, I wouldn't call Conwy Castle just a shell!!! Jon
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: GUEST,Loren Date: 10 Mar 02 - 09:21 PM *check draw* still got lots o' film. so if I go, I'll should get a couple photos. Thanx again you guys, all this advice is great |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 11 Mar 02 - 05:15 AM Hay on Wye is a great base to explore the black mountains, Pen-Y-Fan mountain and the surrounding areas. Hay on Wye is a lovely small market town, which literally has hundreds of second hand bookshops, with speciality books, rare books and collectibles. There are nice pubs, hotels, and once a year it holds a literature festival. This year it's on between end of May June. There are some good events, both musically and lectures. I saw Boys of the Lough there some years ago now... There are some spectacular views, but I must reiterate, especially if you try Pen-Y-Van, don't go alone, or if you do, make sure people know where you are going and your route. It does change up there, and even in summer can be absolutely freezing. I used to go camping up there - COLD!! Have fun! Ella |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Nigel Parsons Date: 11 Mar 02 - 05:38 AM I can fully agree with the recommendations of the YHA as a cheap way of finding accomodation. A few friends of mine will spend the end of next week doing the Welsh "Three Peaks", I.e. Snowdon, Cadair Idris and Pen y Fan. With a car to get to the suitable Youth Hostels which make excellant starting points for the walks. The earlier comments about changeable weather should also be remembered, not only for high level walks. |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Noreen Date: 11 Mar 02 - 12:34 PM Jon, it would need a bit of renovation if you were going to live in it... *grin* It's a magnificent shell! |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: GUEST,Loren Date: 13 Mar 02 - 05:56 PM wow, this is alot of advice. thank you so much. |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Peg Date: 14 Mar 02 - 11:02 AM well, by "shell" I meant not full of carpets and chandeliers and furniture and such! It is still very grand and very much worth seeing! I love this little town and would love to go back there someday. The area near Tintern Abbey is also very lovely ("Oh sylvan Wye!")
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 14 Mar 02 - 11:52 AM Peg that's the area I live in. Yes it is lovely - it's different every day. Lovely in summer and just as nice in winter! There's a fantastic walk to the hills above the Abbey, on to the other side, only 4 miles up hill, through the woods and up a bit of a muddy track. But once you get to the top - the view is just fab. Lots of nice pubs and such that we end up most weekends. :-) Ella |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: GUEST,LB's Dad Date: 14 Mar 02 - 07:41 PM Hi LB. Thanks for letting me in this conversation! How about using the regional busses to get to the Youth hostels from Bangor. I'm thinking Llanberis, Pen-Y-Pass, Bryn Gwynant, and Snowdon Ranger as a circuit. Beddgelert and Caernarfon also look like interesting places to visit. Any comments about these places?
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Trevor Date: 15 Mar 02 - 05:37 AM Dolgellau (or Dolly Golly as my kids used to call it) is a great starting point for a lot of walks, ranging from wild-ish coastline to mountains. The proximity of the hills to the sea makes the tops seem higher than they are. There's also the beautiful Kings hostel and there used to be bunkhouse accommodation at a place called Isl'awr dref (sp?). As Liz says there's some brilliant farmhouse B&B in the area - if you want to p-mail me I can recommend a couple. As the others have said, please, please, please don't go on to the tops unless you are prepared and don't go alone unless you experienced enough to know what you are doing. The conditions in that neck of the woods can change with a click of the fingers. (Sorry if that's patronising, 'cos I don't know anything about you. I suspect there are others who use the 'cat who, like me, have been involved in hill rescue and know that warnings are never a waste of breath!) |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: BanjoRay Date: 15 Mar 02 - 07:43 AM I've done a lot of mountain walking and rock climbing in North Wales. I wouldn't walk up any of those hills without the following kit: Map Compass Whistle Torch & spare batteries Plastic bivouac sac First-aid kit Food & flask of warm drink Spare food you don't actually intend eating unless you're stuck Waterproof cagoule & overtrousers warm hat, gloves, trousers (not jeans), fleece dependable boots (or trainers if you're experienced and don't mind wet feet) Telephone change or a mobile The ability to use all the above in the correct way And I'd tell someone where I was going and when I should be back. Cheers |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Mr Red Date: 16 Mar 02 - 06:45 AM If you are up near Llangollen go across Pontcysyllte (means river in the sky or something) 1000 yds by 175 feet of aquaduct. I took a boating holiday in '75 (ish) just for the experience of looking over the side of a boat and seeing 180ft of nothing that I was floating on. wudn'tya knowit they found a crack in one stanchion (near the abuttment) so closed the bridge and drained. We bumped along on low water all the way to within a mile and we were not allowed to even walk across! Must go back one day. Having said that it was the most rewarding holiday I ever had - hard work but totally out of the rat race. |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Peg Date: 16 Mar 02 - 10:31 AM Caernafon/Caernavon; well there is a castle there. I did not visit it "upclose" but I recall when the bus I was riding passed thru that area and was pointing out the castle I thought it was some of the most breathatking countryside I have EVER seen... Ella; lucky you! I love it there. I remember lying on the grass at the Abbey and staring up into the tall trees there...ah. Heaven. I am not sure when I will get to Wales next (Scotland and England on the agenda for my next trip in June) but when I do I will stop in for a pint and some songs! Peg |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Dave Wynn Date: 16 Mar 02 - 01:09 PM Oh yeah Dave the Gnome. Terrific , a 10 mile walk turned out to be about 14. Most of it stuggling through wired up stiles and paths about as rare as rocking horse pooh. Hills that went up steeper than a boeing on steroids and forest plantations that only had paths going in and nothing coming out (it was a bit Hans Christian Anderson that bit , the trees were waving in the wind and lifting their roots and trust me it is a strange sight to see a tree trying to walk). The latest maps that were surveyed by a canabis grower and bore no relationship to the terain we were walking on. Rain that had a special added wetting agent that even leaked into my whisky flask. But thoroughly enjoyable and views over the bay to England were spectacular. We are apparently going again in January coz I overheard Dave the Gnome say "it's going to be a bloody cold day before I come back here" :-). Star rating ***** Spot. |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: GUEST,Loren Date: 01 Apr 02 - 01:52 PM refreshing this thread, if you don't mind |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Liz the Squeak Date: 01 Apr 02 - 05:23 PM I found the book if you're still interested, and the farmhouse was called Tyddymawr, just outside Dolgellau. We saw both red and common kite, and buzzard... don't go if you're a small furry mammal. LTS |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Grab Date: 02 Apr 02 - 07:44 AM Tryfan is a classic scramble, although it can get busy. Lovely mountain though. Graham. |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 02 Apr 02 - 09:22 AM Sounds good peg, doesn't look like I'm fixed to go far just yet. I think I've found the place I like most... E |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Trevor Date: 05 Apr 02 - 03:04 AM Yeah, well..... Share, Ella! |
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Subject: RE: Hiking Wales From: Ella who is Sooze Date: 05 Apr 02 - 04:29 AM Lol Trevor, I always share! nature belongs to us all you know! :-) |
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