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Subject: Lyrics Requested From: GUEST,K.Brady Date: 03 Jul 02 - 01:48 PM I'm looking for the lyrics to a song containing the words " all I had was four and nine". I don't know the title of the song. Many thanks. |
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Subject: RE: Lyrics Requested From: Noreen Date: 03 Jul 02 - 01:58 PM Not a lot to go on there, K.! Nothing at Google for that phrase. Any more info- e.g. genre of song, who sang it, solo artist/group, era? Or any other words? |
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Subject: RE: Lyrics Requested: four and nine? From: MartinRyan Date: 03 Jul 02 - 05:23 PM Musichall song about a guy who takes a woman out to dinner and she eats all before her? Regards |
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Subject: RE: Lyrics Requested: four and nine? From: fleetwood Date: 03 Jul 02 - 05:31 PM one of the lines in the chorus is "I landed on the pavement and my four and nine" but I don't recall anymore of the song. sorry. |
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Subject: RE: Lyrics Requested: four and nine? From: Herga Kitty Date: 03 Jul 02 - 05:37 PM So, not an early version of the Jute Mill song before the wages went up? O, dear me, the mill is running fast And we poor shifters canna get nae rest Shifting bobbins coarse and fine They fairly make you work for your ten and nine Kitty |
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Subject: RE: Lyrics Requested: four and nine? From: Bob Bolton Date: 04 Jul 02 - 08:53 AM G'day K Brady, I have heard this song, here in Australia - probably sung by an English woman with a strong Music Hall repertoire. Afraid I can't remember enough to make it worthwhile, but I'll see if it is on her CD (out there somewhere ...). REgards, Bob Bolton |
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Subject: RE: Lyrics Requested: four and nine? From: GUEST,Martin Ryan Date: 04 Jul 02 - 08:57 AM A friend of mine (ex The Press Gang, for those who remember) sings a similar song based around a half crown (cheapskate!). It contains the immortal line: "..And I swole up like a poisoned pup...)! The "Four and Nine" version I vaguely remember from my Boy Scout days. Regards |
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Subject: RE: Lyrics Requested: four and nine? From: Susanne (skw) Date: 04 Jul 02 - 03:48 PM Can't be the song our guest is after, but apparently the idea is similar: Fifty Pence |
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Subject: RE: Lyrics Requested: four and nine? From: MartinRyan Date: 04 Jul 02 - 03:53 PM Ha, Suzanne! Much of that one is common to my friends "Only one half-crown" song! Decimalisation and inflation strike again. Regards |
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Subject: RE: Lyrics Requested: four and nine? From: Nigel Parsons Date: 05 Jul 02 - 11:45 AM I remember hearing a song "Three and thruppence Ha'penny" I think it was a Ralph Reader one from the Gang Show |
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Subject: RE: Lyrics Requested: four and nine? From: GUEST,K.Brady Date: 05 Jul 02 - 02:53 PM Hi Further information on the song - the title is "The half crown song". The only reference I have is that it is on an album by the Flanagan Brothers called "The songs we like to sing on Paddy's Day." I don't know if it is still available. |
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Subject: RE: Lyrics Requested: four and nine? From: rich-joy Date: 06 Jul 02 - 07:08 PM My Partner (Poor Misery), remembers his tiny (now octogenarian) Uncles singing the following :
Four and nine, four and nine The Uncles are Liverpool (England) lads (Steve and Vince Connyngham) who did a lot of performing around the traps (Uncle Steve is STILL a drummer in a band!!) BUT my Partner can't recall any more details of the song or how old it may be ... Cheers! R-J
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Subject: RE: Lyrics Requested: four and nine? From: rich-joy Date: 09 Jul 02 - 06:15 AM refresh |
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Subject: RE: Lyrics Requested: four and nine? From: Jim Dixon Date: 01 May 05 - 07:06 PM Correction: the Flanagan Brothers album is called "The Tunes We Like to Play on Paddy's Day." There's a review of it here. It does indeed contain a song called "The Half Crown Song." Frank Maher posted THE HALF CROWN SONG attributed to Joe Flanagan, 1933, in another thread. However, it doesn't contain the lines that are quoted above. It seems there are more songs in this family that we haven't collected yet. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: four and nine? From: Jim McLean Date: 02 May 05 - 12:24 PM Take a look here http://p214.ezboard.com/fcantariafrm7.showMessage?topicID=25.topic |
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Subject: Lyr Add: FOUR AND NINE (from The Bridies) From: Jim Dixon Date: 04 May 05 - 11:45 PM Thanks, Jim! Here are the lyrics, copied and pasted from the forum that Jim McLean posted the URL of, above: FOUR AND NINE As sung by The Bridies I took a lady out west one night. She had a very large appetite. She asked me to take her out to dine. I counted out me money. I had four and nine. CHORUS: Four and nine I still have yet. Four and nine I'll never forget. Don't ever take a lady out to dine If you have in your pocket only four and nine. She started off with the oxtail soup, Then stewed eels to loop the loop. Oysters, too, she said are fine, But I kept muscles on me four and nine. CHORUS Next thing she ordered was the fillet of plaice, And passed the chicken across her face. As I watched it go down her spine, I said, "Lord have mercy on me four and nine." CHORUS In came the waiter and he looked at me. "How about paying that bill," said he. He kept his right eye fixed on mine. I kept muscles on me four and nine. CHORUS In came the boss and he gave a stare. He placed his foot, but I won't say where. Out of the window I went flying, Dancing on the pavement with me four and nine. CHORUS Four and nine, put another dollar up. Four and nine, take a tip from me. Don't ever take a lady out to dine If you have in your pocket only four and nine. [The only recording I can find is this one: "Offaly for Asia", a compilation CD being sold to raise money for tsunami relief.] |
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Subject: Lyr Add: FIFTY PENCE (Iain MacKintosh) From: Jim Dixon Date: 09 May 05 - 11:20 PM From Henry's Songbook: FIFTY PENCE Trad (as sung by Iain MacKintosh) I met a girl the other night. She smiled and gave me hope. She stayed when all the rest had gone. The music had all stopped, So I took her to a restaurant, the finest in the street. She said she wasnae hungry, but this is what she ate: Three plates of soup, two melons, a pound and a half of roast, Some Irish stew, potatoes too, and then some beans on toast. Next, she tried some oysters fried. Her appetite was immense. She asked for pie. I thought I'd die, for I just had fifty pence. And when the food was finished, she smiled so very sweet. Said she wasn't hungry, and she wished that she could eat. And when she called the waiter back, my heart began to sink. She said she wasn't thirsty, but she showed me how to drink: Three whiskies, two vodkas, twenty pints of beer, Fourteen brandies, thirteen gins, quickly disappeared. Four pints of Guinness followed. She astonished all the gents. She called for more. I fell on the floor, for I just had fifty pence. And then this delicate little lass cleaned out the ice-cream can And said, "Now Iain, I'll tell my mum you're such a nice young man." She said she'd bring her sister too next time she came, for fun. I gave the waiter my fifty pence, and this is what he done: He stood on my toes, broke my nose, knocked me out of breath. My two black eyes were worth a prize. He kicked me half to death. He pulled me out the restaurant. He threw me o'er the rail. And that was when the polis came and took me to the gaol. So if I don't smile back tonight, girls, use your common sense. You know I'm only thinking of my experience. But I'm feeling rather hungry, so I wouldn't take offence If you took me to a restaurant. I've just got fifty pence. "Hamish [Imlach] found this one in a book and gave it to me, and I Scottified it." --Iain MacKintosh, 1992 |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine From: GUEST,Calum Date: 03 Oct 06 - 01:56 PM Nothing like bringing an old thread back to life...what is the name of tune used for this song (Four and Nine)? I don't suppose anybody can point me to some ABC? This song was apparently a music hall favourite in Perth just after WWII, just for the record. A remarkably tricky one to track down it has been! Cheers, Calum |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 03 Oct 06 - 02:13 PM There's an American song with the same idea, of the young lady who wasn't hungry, "but this is what she ate!" I don't recall that how much he had was repeated as much, but the idea was the same. The only words I remember are "She said she wasn't hungry, but this is what she ate: A piece of pie, I thought I'd die" etc. etc. Does anyone know this one? Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 03 Oct 06 - 02:15 PM Okay, okay, I should have looked in the DT. My song was "Fifty Cents". Dae Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine From: Scrump Date: 04 Oct 06 - 04:34 AM FIFTY PENCE Trad (as sung by Iain MacKintosh) Interesting that this should be "trad" when the 50 pence didn't arrive until the late 1960s (pre-decimalisation of the British currency), unless it meant 4/2d ? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine From: GUEST,Calum Date: 04 Oct 06 - 01:44 PM Looks like the original was American, and hence would be fifty cents...easily modified when decimilisation came in! By the way, I noticed after posting yesterday that www.thebridies.com has a sample of the first verse, if anyone is good at identifying tunes (I usually say, aha, I know that one, now what is it?). Cheers, Calum |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine From: GUEST,SiobhanN Date: 10 May 07 - 08:24 AM I've been looking for the words to Four and Nine for years! My grandad was always singing it, and my mum and I have been wracking our brains trying to remember it. The version he sang included the following lines: Four and nine, took her down the Cecil Four and nine, didn't go inside so it's a different version from the one posted. I can't remember whether that was how the chorus went each time, or whether it changed every time. I assume 'The Cecil' was a music hall or theatre or something like that - possibly somewhere in East London (i.e. where my grandad grew up). I'm going to show my mum the lyrics that have been posted, and see if any of the other words are familiar to her, or whether the whole song looks different. More on this later! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine From: GUEST,SiobhanN Date: 10 May 07 - 08:31 AM P.S. As I recall, the tune of the chorus of my grandad's version was the same tune as (or very similar to) 'Casey Jones'. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine From: GUEST,Viv Date: 16 May 08 - 06:44 AM Hey does anyone know where i can get the melody for that 50 pence song. already sing 4 and 9 but was looking another song along the same lines as it goes down great in sessions. Thanks. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine From: GUEST Date: 03 Jun 08 - 03:14 PM There's a charming recording of a group of children singing this song on Martin Donohue's CD Tasty Touches. Lyrics are slightly different from the Bridies lyrics that were posted. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 03 Jun 08 - 04:07 PM "50 cents" was a favorite, much copied, sung by Sam Devere in the 1880s and published in sheet music form by White-Smith & Co., Boston, in 1885. Words and music by Sam Devere, who also wrote "Riding on the Elevated Railroad" and other songs. I will post his lyrics shortly. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE ORIGINAL FIFTY CENTS (Devere) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 03 Jun 08 - 04:59 PM THE ORIGINAL FIFTY CENTS (Sam Devere) 1 If you coud only see the gal I took to a fancy ball, You could span around her little waist, So neat and very small. I thought about two oysters sure would fill her up complete, Such a dainty, delicate little thing, But this is what she eat; A dozen raw, with a plate of slaw, And a fancy Boston roast, A big box stew, with crackers too, And a soft crab on toast, Then next she tried some oysters fried, Her appetite was immense, When she yelled for pie I thought I'd die, For I had but fifty cents. A dozen raw, with a plate of slaw, And a fancy Boston roast, A big box stew, with crackers too, And a soft crab on toast, Then next she tried some oysters fried, Her appetite was immense. When she yelled for pie I thought I'd die, For I had but fifty cents. 2 Then after putting all this away, She smiled so very sweet, She said she wasn't hungry a bit, She wished that she could eat. For a little gal you bet your life, She had a terrible tank, She was only a little thirsty, too, But this is what she drank: A brandy and gum and a big hot rum, And a schooner of lager beer, Three whiskey skins and a couple of gins, Did quickly disappear, With a bottle of ale, and a gin cocktail, She astonished all the gents, I fell on the floor when she cried for more, For I had but fifty cents. Brandy and gum and a big hot rum, And a schooner of lager beer, Three whiskey skins and a couple of gins, Did quickly disappear, With a bottle of ale and a gin cocktail, She astonished all the gents. I fell on the floor when she called for more, For I had but fifty cents. 3 To finish it up this delicate girl Cleaned out an ice cream can; She said, "Oh, Sam, I'll tell mama, You're such a real nice man. She said she'll bring her sisters along, Next time she went for fun, When I showed the man my fifty cents, Why this is what he done; He broke my nose, he tore my clothes, He shook me out of breath, I took the prize for two black eyes, He clubb'd me half to death; Gave me no chance but made me dance, And he fired me over the fence. Take my advice, don't try it twice, When you've got but fifty cents. He broke my nose he tore my clothes, He shook me out of breath; I took the prize for two black eyes, He clubed me most to death; Gave me no chance but made me dance, And he fired me over the fence. Take my advice, don't try it twice, When you've got but fifty cents. "The Original Fifty Cents, words & music composed and sung by Sam Devere through the United States." White - Smith & Co., Boston, copyright 1885. Sheet music at American Memory, 5pp. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 03 Jun 08 - 05:07 PM Found another one, sheet music copyright 1881; by Billy Mortimer, lyrics and Dan Lewis, music. Lewis was a Black entertainer. I will post lyrics later. |
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Subject: ADD: Four and Nine From: GUEST Date: 08 Oct 08 - 11:22 AM 4 and 9 I took a lady out West one night, She had a very large appetite, She asked me to take her out to dine, I counted up me money, I had 4 and 9. Chorus: 4 and 9 I still have yet, 4 and 9 I'll never forget, Don't ever take a lady out to dine, If you have in your pocket only 4 and 9. She started off with some Oxtail soup, Then stewed eels to loop the loop, 'Oysters dear', she said 'are fine', But I kept muscles on me 4 and 9. Chorus: Next thing she ordered was some filet of plaice, And put a chicken across her face, And as I saw it go down her spine, I said 'The Lord have mercy on me 4 and 9'. Chorus: In came the waiter and he looked at me, 'How about paying that bill' said he, He kept his right eye fixed on mine, But I kept me fist on me 4 and 9. Chorus: In came the boss and he gave a staaaaare, He placed his foot but I wont say wheeeeere, And out through the window I went flying, Dancing on the pavement with me 4 and 9. Chorus: Repeat 3 times… 4 and 9 put another dollar up, 4 and 9 take a tip from me, Don't ever take a lady out to dine, If you have in your pocket only 4 and 9. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine/Fifty Cents From: Jim Dixon Date: 09 Oct 08 - 08:49 PM WorldCat.org lists a musical score for FOUR-AND-NINE by Worton David, Bert Lee, Bob Adams, and Bob Alden; London: Francis, Day & Hunter, ©1915. Note: Bob Adams and Bob Alden were "popular American ragtime duettists" known as The Two Bobs. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine/Fifty Cents From: GUEST,Ben Williams Date: 21 Apr 10 - 08:08 AM A great version on Martin Donohoe's CD "Tasty Touches". His four kids are singing it... |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine/Fifty Cents From: GUEST Date: 21 Jun 10 - 10:25 AM 4 and 9, 4 and 9 nothing in my pocket only 4 and 9 take a tip from me never take a lady out to dine with nothing in your pocket only 4 and 9 |
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Subject: RE: BS: True Test of an Atheist From: GUEST,Sunny Date: 30 Sep 10 - 11:46 PM The song I had but fifty cents....."Peg" Moreland about 1926 or 1928 The versions I'm seeing are not the one on the record. Flip side "That's a habit I never had" |
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Subject: ADDPOP: Laugh, I Nearly Died From: GUEST,Four and Nine or far and wide? Date: 10 Feb 11 - 08:03 PM Laugh, I Nearly Died (as sung by the Rolling Stones) I've been travelling but I don't know where I've been missing you but you just don't care And I've been wandering, I've seen Greece and Rome Lost in the wilderness, so far from home Yeah, yeah I've been to Africa, looking for my soul And I feel like an actor looking for a role I've been in Arabia, I've seen a million stars Been sipping champagne on the boulevards - yes I'm so sick and tired Trying to turn the tide, yeah So I'll say my goodbye Laugh, laugh I nearly died I've been down to India, but it froze my bones I'm living for the city, but I'm all alone I've been travelling, but I don't know where I've been wandering, but I just don't care I hate to be denied How you hurt my pride I feel pushed aside But laugh, laugh, laugh I nearly died Been travelling far and wide Wondering who's going to be my guide Living in a fantasy but it's way too far But this kind of loneliness is way too hard I've been wandering, feeling all alone I lost my direction and I lost my home...Well I'm so sick and tired Now I'm on the slide Feeling so despised When you laugh, laugh I almost died (Been travelling far and wide Wondering who's going to be my guide) I hurt my pride, hurt my pride, hurt my pride (Been travelling far and wide) Been travelling, yeah (Been travelling far and wide Wondering who's going to be my guide) (Been travelling far and wide) Note from Joe Offer: this appears to be the Rolling Stones song, "Laugh, I Nearly Died." I can't quite figure how it fits here, but here it is... |
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Subject: Lyr Add: FOUR AND NINE From: GUEST,Davido Date: 30 Jun 11 - 10:31 PM I just did a Google search for Four and Nine, but I see this thread has been going on for years. Well, I also had an uncle who sang it, and all my brothers, my cousins, and now our children know all or part of it. My uncle's version, as far as I remember it, was a combination of a lot of what has already been written here, but there's also a lot more. Still, I suspect that there's parts that are missing because I don't remember them fully: I met a girl going West one night, She had a great big appetite. She asked me to take her out to dine, But all I had was four and nine. Four and nine, I took her to the Cecil, Four and nine, we didn't go inside, Took her to Lockarts and ordered wine, Bang went threepence out me four and nine. She started off with oxtail soup, Then ordered eels and looped the loop. Gee, she said, this dinner's fine, And I started rattling me four and nine. Four and nine, the waiter brought the bill in, Four and nine--twenty seven bob. She had a pain from her food and wine, And I had a pain from me four and nine. In came the boss with a great big stare, Placed his boot where I wouldn't say where, Out of the window I did fly, And landed on the pavement with me four and nine. Four and nine, listen to this moral, Four and nine, take a tip from me, Never take a girl out west to done, If all you have is four and nine. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine / Fifty Cents From: Reiver 2 Date: 23 Sep 11 - 06:07 PM I hadn't seen this thread when I put in my request for the words to 4 & 9. The lyrics that I've heard are among the ones posted on this thread - more or less, at least. All I need, anyway, so my apologies for starting a new thread!! [I KNEW that I could find them on the Mudcat!!] Reiver 2 |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine / Fifty Cents From: GUEST Date: 20 Jul 13 - 03:27 PM Don't ever take a lady out to dine when you have in your pocket only 4 and 9 |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Four and Nine / Fifty Cents From: GUEST Date: 08 Sep 15 - 01:38 PM I took a lady out west one night. She had a very large appetite. She asked me to take her out to dine. I counted out me money. I had four and nine. CHORUS: Four and nine I still have yet. Four and nine I'll never forget. Don't ever take a lady out to dine If you have in your pocket only four and nine. She started off with the oxtail soup, Then stewed eels to loop the loop. Oysters, too, she said are fine, But I kept muscles on me four and nine. CHORUS Next thing she ordered was the fillet of plaice, And passed the chicken across her face. As I watched it go down her spine, I said, "Lord have mercy on me four and nine." CHORUS Found it! On another thread Is this the one? In came the waiter and he looked at me. "How about paying that bill," said he. He kept his right eye fixed on mine. I kept muscles on me four and nine. CHORUS In came the boss and he gave a stare. He placed his foot, but I won't say where. Out of the window I went flying, Dancing on the pavement with me four and nine. CHORUS Four and nine, put another dollar up. Four and nine, take a tip from me. Don't ever take a lady out to dine If you have in your pocket only four and nine. |
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