BS: irish general election

Subject: BS: irish general election
From: The Sandman
Date: 29 Nov 24 - 02:38 AM

I predict a coalition with Fianna Fail having the most sets

Subject: RE: BS: irish general election
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 Nov 24 - 10:20 AM

'Most sets' of what?

Subject: RE: BS: irish general election
From: Rain Dog
Date: 29 Nov 24 - 10:51 AM

Badgers?

Subject: RE: BS: irish general election
From: The Sandman
Date: 29 Nov 24 - 05:00 PM

seats, a typo

Subject: RE: BS: irish general election
From: Thompson
Date: 30 Nov 24 - 04:41 AM

Looks that way. Independents got a huge boost, Labour a little one; Greens (who were superb in power, leading to a leap forward in climate moderation) were punished by the voters for the actions of their constantly sniping-at-them coalition partners; Social Democrats (left-wing, steady) got a boost too.
Sinn Fein got a very substantial boost with the most No 1 votes of any party, but they don't tend to be transfer-friendly, which in Ireland's Proportional Representation, Single Transferable Vote system means that they could sink back.

Subject: RE: BS: irish general election
From: The Sandman
Date: 30 Nov 24 - 05:17 AM

A small fact , but one which i have benefited from is the increase of bus transport, i live in a rural area and am old and get free transport, and i think i have the greens to thank for that

Subject: RE: BS: irish general election
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Dec 24 - 03:43 AM

it looks like FF FG With Labour or social democrats

Subject: RE: BS: irish general election
From: Thompson
Date: 01 Dec 24 - 06:03 PM

If anyone's rushing to get into bed with Fianna Fail and Fine Gael, which is much like getting into bed with Scheherazade's husband.

Subject: RE: BS: irish general election
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Dec 24 - 06:40 PM

the daughter of the kingdom's vizier and the elder sister of Dunyazad. Against her father's wishes, she marries King Shahryar, who has vowed that he will execute a new bride every morning. For 1,001 nights, Scheherazade tells her husband a story, stopping at dawn with a cliffhanger.

Subject: RE: BS: irish general election
From: Thompson
Date: 01 Dec 24 - 07:12 PM

Unless it's a storytelling member of the coalition, Shahryar Gael and Shahryar Fail will chop their heads off before morning.

Subject: RE: BS: irish general election
From: Thompson
Date: 02 Dec 24 - 03:55 AM

Grammar went awry there: they (the party that crept into bed with FF/FG), would want to be Scheherazade-level storytellers to escape the fate of other parties that have gone into coalition with FF/FG, like the PDs (this corporatist party has ceased to be), Labour (the party decimated after they took the fall for the vicious cuts forced by the IMF and enacted by them with some enthusiasm) and the Greens (this week's electoral wipeout, though there's still a strong base in local politics and strong grassroots support).

Subject: RE: BS: irish general election
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Dec 24 - 03:18 AM

Thompson what is the difference between labour and the social democrats, mmy guess is the SDS will go in with FFand FG a long term error

Subject: RE: BS: irish general election
From: Thompson
Date: 03 Dec 24 - 05:54 AM

The difference is that the Social Democrats are a left-wing party.
Labour has been tainted by going very, very sleek and middle-class during the Celtic Tiger; then on the collapse of the economy, a Labour minister had the post of Social Welfare and made savage cuts affecting the poor, while people like bankers and developers who had bankrupted the country were sympathetically supported. The same Labour admin put notices on every Social Welfare page encouraging people to inform on their neighbours if they suspected them of "defrauding" the State by claiming social welfare payments they weren't entitled to - of course there was a flood of people grassing up single mothers, etc; most of these investigations came up with nothing - but Labour became known as the rat-'em-up party. This distrust has continued among those who would have been the main voting bloc for what originated as James Connolly's party. The distrust has begun to ease, or rather, a couple of the current Labour TDs are well liked, but I don't think they'd be thought of as a party that represents the less well off, even now.

Subject: RE: BS: irish general election
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Dec 24 - 07:44 AM

I do remember pat rabbitte behaving badly, but thanks for reminding me