Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Sep 25 - 09:01 AM

SRS.. that "Ground News" site is interesting, but I can't see much that is not available on other sites linked in RefDesk. It would change my entire morning routine to add it to my browsing.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Mr Red
Date: 27 Sep 25 - 09:19 AM

Maybe this should be on the joke thread. Given the deadpan delivery & no laughter track - I was guffawing out loud. & that takes some very clever irony.

A video/cartoon of Christopher Hitchens' voice and facsimile of him explaining why the British hate Trump

<SPOILER alert=True> We Brits don't come off too brilliantly either </SPOILER>

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 27 Sep 25 - 03:02 PM

Funny, Mr Red. That British dry humour - LOL

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Sep 25 - 02:14 PM

Bill D, the ranking of articles and suggestions of related ones that have been overlooked by various segments of the news media is of interest - if it is a realistic evaluation.

I flipped through channels this morning and landed on Joseph Campbell - The Message of the Myth, part two of the series Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth with Bill Moyers. Timing was perfect, as he described why the move to try to adopt old principles from the ancient parts of religions is to force the relics of an ancient world on modern cultures. The world was very small when some of these religions formed and their allegorical stories to teach behavior no longer fit an industrial world around the globe. What we're seeing with the xtian nationalists is exactly that - trying to fit the modern industrial world into the cookie cutter of a biblical world written about 2000 years ago. Texts written by men, for men, in an age of slavery, pushing back against animism and Zoroastrians and Egyptian pharaohs and who knows what else. Though I think they're trying for the 1850s, not the year 1.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Sep 25 - 08:16 PM

The worst of the worst domestic terrorists were trained by James Dobson, Ron Luce and Charlie Kirk. Some of these were teens twenty five years ago and trained in Teens on Fire rallies and christian camps.
Of course the internet and algorithms have an effect but the hard core white nationalists have been taught very ugly anti democratic themes for a long time now.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Sep 25 - 07:44 AM

The teen spiritual warriors who become active duty Marines and are denied help for PTSD are the kinds of people predisposed to shoot up
churches or other peaceful events. Other lone wolf killers probably overblow the conspiracy theories or issues of their hearts. Combined with the current gun policy, US violence a virtual certainty.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Sep 25 - 11:37 AM

'The Trump Effect' seems to be being widely attributed to the shameful, loutish behaviour of the crowd at the Ryder Cup this past weekend.

Trashy President, trashy people.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Sep 25 - 04:19 PM

Beer plus an event equals chaos. The UK has its football riots and trampling incidents, but UK citizens should not be called trashy.
Read the room and realize who you are talking to, despite your proclivities.


ICE is becoming more violent as its hiring practices become more amateurish.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Sep 25 - 05:53 PM

If you are ever assaulted, detained, or arrested, do not expect your civil rights to be respected in the real world. If all goes well, your civil rights begin with an appearance before a judge.

Sweet dreams are made of these
Trump would never disagree
Hillary in a cell is great to see
Everybody has different sweet dreams
Trump's best dream is a scream
when Obama hears the jail door creak
while Barak is taking a leak.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Sep 25 - 06:13 PM

”Beer plus an event equals chaos.”

At 7am?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 29 Sep 25 - 10:28 PM

Trump's peace plan shows Netanyahu has outmanoeuvred yet another American president Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has outmanoeuvred yet another American president.

For all US President Donald Trump's boasts about ending wars and being a worthy candidate for a Nobel Peace Prize, when his moment came to end the war in Gaza and build a sustainable future for both Israelis and Palestinians, he failed. At least for now.

As the two men announced this so-called peace plan, there was not a single Arab leader in the room. That says everything.

The presence next to these two of the leader of one of the Arab heavyweight nations — such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE or Egypt — would have given the proposal a much-needed credibility in the Arab world ...

... After eight months back in the Oval Office, Donald Trump has been outfoxed by Russia's Vladimir Putin over the war in Ukraine and now Benjamin Netanyahu over the war in Gaza.

He boasts of ending seven wars so far, but the two wars in which civilians are being killed in huge numbers — Ukraine and Gaza — are as bad as ever ...

... Already, Israel's formidable propaganda machine — there's a word in Hebrew for this, "hasbara" — is hard at work.

A couple of hours before President Trump's announcement, former Israeli ambassador to the US, Michael Oren, was explaining to CNN that this plan was about a "pathway" towards a Palestinian state ... He explained that a "pathway" doesn't mean a commitment to implement such a state but rather a commitment to "discuss" such an idea ... read on

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Sep 25 - 01:41 PM

Red meat for the base...
Med beds were announced on Fox News that help patients grow back amputations, among other things. Trump promised that American citizens will have access to these new Med Beds,

After Trump posted this he took it down because it was all a deep fake although there are existing conspiracy theories about the Med Bed.

The extortion President is set to fire many remaining civil servants during the impending government shut down.

Hegseth just wanted TV exposure to lecture generals that the current credo of the US military is that of shrinking violets and wusses.
He wants a more bloodthirsty military.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Sep 25 - 05:18 PM

7 hours until 750,000 employees are furloughed or fired.
This purge is deadly.
The PRESIDENT IS UNWELL AS EVIDENCED BY HIS DISPLAY BEFORE THE GENERALS TODAY. Trump rambles

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Oct 25 - 07:07 AM

BWM has not seen the pervasive meaness in the US at sporting events like football, baseball, and basketball. There very well may be a Trump effect in the courseness of the culture of sportsmanship. Fan profanity is at a high-water mark even in baseball last night.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Oct 25 - 11:33 AM

Apropos of nothing, the exaggerated femininity of the women in the Trump maga team is an identifiable thing - long hair in barrel curls, Botoxed faces, chiseled makeup looks, a lot of sheath dresses. You can tell what Trump likes to look at (Stepford Wives come to mind and Melania and his daughters and daughters-in-law.).

Their appearance is now so characteristic that it has its own name: the "Mar-a-Lago face", named after Trump's gigantic estate in Florida. Or simply: the "Maga look". Maga stands for "Make America Great Again", the movement that is rallying behind Trump.

Noem, Guilfoyle and co. characterize the look

Particularly well-known examples of the eye-catching look are Trump's Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem, his daughter-in-law Lara Trump and the designated US ambassador to Greece and ex-fiancée of Trump's son Don Jr, Kimberly Guilfoyle. What they have in common is that they looked completely different a few years ago and have undergone a transformation on the outside. "Trumpification" is what the New York Times once called Noem.

In principle, it is rather inappropriate to make fun of other people's looks - not to mention rather out of place. But the look of the women in Trump's entourage is more than just a question of taste, the debate about outward appearance is not just a criticism of style - it is a political statement.

And this is why, though I've worn my hair long for years, I'm having several inches cut off today. It won't be a short bob, but it will be less than these female people trot around (and it will still be gray - most of that crew is blonde, akin to all of the FOX faux news hosts).

In theory they shouldn't get to co-opt the look, it is a popular style now, but in practice, long hair right now seems to go along with that ilk, and I can grow my hair longer again at another time.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Oct 25 - 11:43 AM

OK, I’m confused. If the Republikans have majorities in both Houses, how come government is shutting down? Why can’t the Republikans just use their majorities to force the budget vote through? What am I missing?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Oct 25 - 11:56 AM

To pass this funding bill requires more than a simple majority. In the senate they need 60 votes out of 100, and they have only 51 (plus the vice-president as a tie-breaker). The procedure used to pass that big ugly bill a few months ago was called "reconciliation" and only certain things could be in it to go forward, then they used the simple majority to pass it.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Oct 25 - 12:02 PM

Aaahh, thanks SRS. All is clear now.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Oct 25 - 12:22 PM

The stock market seems to have dissociated itself from the Trump chaos, though early in the year it was tanking (under the age-old adage of buy-low, sell-high, I added money to my mutual funds when things were low.) It is perking along these days, even with a government shutdown. The small-cap and mid-cap funds struggle more, but it seems that the oligarchs have everything well in hand for the big investors.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Oct 25 - 04:42 PM

ICE receives more funding than the entire US Marine Corps.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Oct 25 - 05:26 PM

Trump is entering his final Helen Thomas years of confusion and paranoia. Telling 'his' military that our enemy is within and lives in the inner cities is more than racist dog whistles.

Generals who tried to take notes from the commander-in-chief to take back to the troops had to abandon the task since the Trump 'weave' was so disjointed and unhinged that there was nothing rational to note.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Oct 25 - 05:41 PM

Not all Fox 'journalists' are real blondes. None are.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/j33viz/i_told_my_friend_that_all_fox_news_female_anchors/

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Oct 25 - 07:22 AM

mean while there is a government shutdown ,what is going on

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Oct 25 - 08:32 AM

Obamacare is being held hostage by Republicans and blame Democrats for trying to save it. Therefore a shutdown continues which will not renew Obamacare and cut Medicaid further.

If anti-DEI continues to eliminate blacks and women from employment, the next step is to bring back slavery in a new format, which the South has always wanted. https://www.hds.harvard.edu/news/2020/06/12/donald-trump-bible-and-white-supremacy

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Oct 25 - 08:45 AM

"Dead wood, fraud, and corruption"

Is either the definition of what Trump claims he is saving America from.

OR

It is the definition of Trump himself.

...and the twain shall never meet. Who wins this messaging war will determine the future of the USA for generations.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 25 - 05:40 PM

Everyone arrives at a truth in steps of their own, in their own time.
Denial is currently rampant. The severity of the raids against citizens or immigrants is as overwhelming as the Gestapo raids in 1938 Germany. The moral compass of a nation can be bent and then broken by a Kristallnacht. What that will be in the Trump military takeover in America remains to be seen, but the rhetoric of unleashing troops in American cities is a last warning. The made-for-TV takeover will be streamed, so you won't miss a minute of the agonizing holocaust.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Oct 25 - 05:54 PM

This revolution will be televised.

What is rampant is capitulation. Too many entities don't want to draw the gaze of Mordor their way.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Helen
Date: 05 Oct 25 - 01:55 AM

US Treasury unveils draft design for $1 [convicted felon] Trump coin to mark 250th independence celebrations

"In short: The US Treasury has released a draft design for a $1 coin featuring President Donald Trump.

"The coin aims to commemorate 250 years since the declaration of American independence in 2026.
What's next?

"The final $1 coin design has not yet been selected, a Treasury spokesperson said."

...


"The front of the potential design featured Mr Trump in profile, with the words 'Liberty' above and '1776-2026' below, according to images shared by Treasurer Brandon Beach on X and subsequently released by the Treasury.

"The other side of the coin showed Mr Trump holding a raised clenched fist framed with the words 'fight, fight, fight' — a reference to what he said immediately after surviving an assassination attempt last year — and a flag in the background.

"'While a final $1 coin design has not yet been selected to commemorate the United States' semi-quincentennial, this first draft reflects well the enduring spirit of our country and democracy, even in the face of immense obstacles,' a Treasury spokesperson said in a statement."

...

"Debate on the design's legality

"In 2020, Congress passed a law that allows the Treasury Secretary to mint $1 coins in 2026 'with designs emblematic of the US semi-quincentennial'.

"A debate quickly erupted on social media about the proposed coin, given that the law specifically says 'no head and shoulders portrait or bust of any person, living or dead, and no portrait of a living person may be included in the design on the reverse of any coin' created to mark the US anniversary."

...

"Asked on Friday whether Mr Trump had seen the draft coin design, White House spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt said, 'I'm not sure if he's seen it, but I'm sure he'll love it'."

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 05 Oct 25 - 05:08 AM

if the turnip isn't in making the 250th anniversary of the declaration of Independence an 'all about me' event, then if American's really give a proverbial about their heritage they must commemorate 2029 as the landmark year as the 254th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Alternatively shred the 1776 declaration and replace it with a 1779 one so 2029 becomes the 250th anniversary.

Subject: RE:the new abbreviated Constitution.
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 25 - 06:04 PM

We the people of the United States, shall permanently protect, preserve, and defend Billionaires.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 25 - 10:49 AM

FAUX news has been peppering reports of ICE protests in Portland, OR with footage from the George Floyd protests of several years ago. Trump watches that on TV, tweets about it, then orders the Oregon National Guard to Portland. One of his own appointee Federal Judges said he can't use a tweet as proof and ordered a stop to that deployment.

So asshole Trump turns around and orders the California National Guard to go to Portland.

The guy is deranged, it's on full display, and no one lifts a finger. They've all complied in advance or are too afraid of being "primaried." Like their jobs are worth keeping?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Oct 25 - 11:51 AM

What’s happened to that ‘well-regulated militia’ mentioned in your 2nd Amendment as ”being necessary to the security of a free State. Why aren’t all those red-faced, gun-nut NRA supporters getting themselves organised into this mythical ‘well-regulated militia’ to protect ‘the people’ from a government taking up arms against them?

Don’t tell me it was all horse-shit, for no other purpose than to push back against the introduction of sane gun-laws? Well who’da thunk it?!!

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 25 - 02:49 PM

The US is currently averaging one mass shooting a day.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Oct 25 - 03:22 PM

Trump deranged? a deranged puppet.It reminds me of.. Aesop's fable about the frogs, often titled "The Frogs Who Wished for a King" or "The Frogs Who Desired a King," tells of frogs who asked Jupiter to send them a king. Jupiter first sent a log, which the frogs found too passive, so they asked for another king. Jupiter then sent a stork, which began to eat them. The frogs, regretting their demand for a king and suffering from their actions, realized the danger of discontent and the importance of appreciating what they had

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Oct 25 - 01:05 AM

time the us changed their gun laws

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Oct 25 - 07:35 AM

Greta Thunberg on her official FB Page (blue tick) today…

”I heard Donald Trump once again has expressed his very flattering opinions on my character, and I appreciate his concerns for my mental health.

To Trump: I would very kindly receive any recommendations you might have to deal with these so-called ‘anger management problems’ since - judging by your impressive track record - you seem to be suffering from them too.”

Go Greta!! Great one !

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 07 Oct 25 - 08:04 AM

I know that I'm supposed to be impressed, even grateful, for her efforts to save the planet, but why does the very name 'Greta Thunberg' bring on the yawn reflex?

DC

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Oct 25 - 08:15 AM

I don’t know, Doug, it doesn’t have that effect on me. Perhaps you can enlighten us?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: pattyClink
Date: 07 Oct 25 - 10:15 AM

Saw a shred of hope yesterday. Guy has research and sources, so it's not just blind hopium or copium.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/09/19/american-democracy-resilience-00548910

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Oct 25 - 10:59 AM

It is hopeful, Patty. Thanks for the link. There was one piece in particular that rings very true - "In presidential systems of at least middling strength, populists who defeated democracy since 1980 had approval ratings of 80 percent or more — nearly twice Trump’s approval rating, which has been stuck in the 40s both in his first term and so far in his second." In other words, if the president is unpopular, they have little chance of becoming a dictator. What you will have to watch for with Trump though is that he will try to ensure his continuing tenure by other means. The first of which I believe will be leading up to and durung next years mid terms. Although he is so unpopular and everything points to a massive swing to the Democrats, he will move heaven and earth to prevent that from happening. I have been castigated on here before for being a doom monger but saying that it cannot happen has already been proven wrong. Sorry guys but the fight is far from over :-(

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Oct 25 - 01:23 PM

Trump brands Greta a trouble maker, talk about pots and kettles.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Oct 25 - 03:10 PM

I'm not really interested in testing the AI features out there, but that seems like it might be the easiest way to paste Trump's head on Tweed's body. Thomas Nast really clobbered Tweed in the pages of current periodicals. The Ballot would be a perfect illustration to use. The term is "face-swap" and it's everywhere out there.

Caricature’s searing ability to stun.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Oct 25 - 06:22 PM

I heard the last few minutes of an NPR program called Forum in which she interviewed Quico Toro, one of the authors of Charlatans: How Grifters, Swindlers, and Hucksters Bamboozle the Media, the Markets, and the Masses. The podcast should be here soon if not already. (Sometimes there is a bit of a lapse between the live program and the streaming podcast).

Airdate: Tuesday, October 7 at 10AM
What makes us vulnerable to charlatans? A new book by journalist Quico Toro takes a close look at charismatic manipulators from literal snake oil peddlers to crypto scammer Sam Bankman-Fried. We talk to Toro about how charlatans exploit our need for certainty, belonging and leadership — and why the tricks are old, but thanks to viral amplification on social media, the scale is new. Toro’s book, co-written with Moisés Naim, is “Charlatans: How Grifters, Swindlers, and Hucksters Bamboozle the Media, the Markets, and the Masses.”

Guests:

Francisco Toro, author, "Charlatans: How Grifters, Swindlers, and Hucksters "Bamboozle the Media, the Markets, and the Masses" - he's also director of climate repair at the Anthropocene Institute

You know that Donald Trump's name came up, though the book was written prior to his second election.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 25 - 06:07 AM

The war on Chicago is violent by the military rappelling from helicopters into low-income housing apartments. Kids and adults were zip-tied together, some naked, and put in vans and arrested.
The war on Democrats consists of not swearing in new Democratic congressmen but swearing in Republicans in 24 hours. Bondi is indicting and investigating a dozen or more of who they call Trump enemies.
The rhetoric is getting more filthy and dehumanizing against Democrats. They are being called a criminal cabal and not a political party.
There is not a hint of reopening the government. This looks like it will break the record for staying closed.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 25 - 08:21 AM

What most Americans do not know is how the military industrial complex sees them and how they are named by them. For example, the people of Nevada and Utah are designated as 'low-use humans'. The word humans is a nice touch but it became a rationalization for allowing them to be poisoned by radioactivity. You already know about collateral damage.

In Nevada alone there have been 928 nuclear bomb tests.
Compared to the Chernobyl disaster, the lethal bomb radiation release in the USA is about three times higher. Our childhood leukemia pandemic is by our own making.

The mindset of the military is such that the people are at best an afterthought. The same mindset is at play with global warming.
Do not expect an unleashed Trump military to have a moral compass that points to anything except death.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Oct 25 - 08:43 AM

So what are you going to do about it, Don?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: pattyClink
Date: 08 Oct 25 - 10:39 AM

I am encouraged we have 2 governors of large states, with the guts to challenge the Trump craziness and cruelty. We need the leadership, and from people who aren't afraid of losing their jobs or being persecuted for speaking out.

link

There is not enough time and breath in the world to convince the MAGA folks that they are wrong about their hatred and their policies, bred from a lifetime of bogus 'facts' on talk radio and Fox news.

But, as with Biden, people can be convinced that someone has gotten demented enough to be unfit to serve. Which is pretty much where we are, with daily unhinged and irrational statements from this fellow.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 08 Oct 25 - 10:43 AM

Gentlemen, no fighting, please. This is the War Room.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Oct 25 - 11:27 AM

He. Is. Insane.

Trump demands Chicago mayor and Illinois governor are jailed…

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Oct 25 - 12:11 PM

Perfect save and context, MaJoC. (In the world of Peter Sellers characters this is no Chance Gardner we're dealing with, it's a world of Strangelove and Jack D. Ripper - can anyone else visualize Stephen Miller talking about "bodily fluids"?)