 sj |
||
|
||
BS: For Real. I quit
|
|
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Wolfgang Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:20 PM MG=LH? BS WH |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST, heric Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:24 PM Somewhere on the net (I can't find it now) there is a fun little toy in which you paste an exceprt, and it guesses the writer's gender, based on some simple rules, such as the count of adverbs and adjectives, and relative ratios and such. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Peace Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:28 PM As long as everyone's gettin' along . . . . |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Clinton Hammond Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:33 PM Just because you say it with profanity, doens't make it mean any more to me, '615' Sure errodes your case though.... |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST,615 Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:35 PM Exactly - That's the point I'm trying to make. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Peace Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:35 PM I like peace because it's peaceful. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Peace Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:38 PM You can call a sheep a dog, but that won't make it bark. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Joe Offer Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:41 PM I suppose it's possible that the crash changed the message numbers. I haven't noticed that in other situations, however. I think the distinct possibility exists that Carol made a mistake, and that's why I wasn't able to find and delete the message in question. It may be that Carol gave me incorrect information because she does not understand our thread and message numbering system - many people don't. I suppose one could possibly imagine that I deleted one message as requested, and then deliberately neglected to delete another one, in an attempt to punish or harrass the target of the message. Seems unlikely to me, though. I don't have any reason to do that, and I don't have any history of having done that in the past. As I've said before, Martin Gibson was prolific, and it was impossible for me to keep up with every insulting message he posted. It took me a while to accept the idea that I needed to read all of his messages, at the end of every day. I did that in spurts. When he seemed to settle down, I stopped reviewing his messages until I started to get complaints again. He was on full review for several days before he stopped posting. Believe me, reading all those Martin Gibson messages was not a pleasant task. There are many other things that I would prefer to spend my time on. It was especially thankless because so many people insisted on their "right" to do battle with him, which provoked him to post even more. It really feels like a slap in the face that those same people are now complaining about Mudcat's failure to control Martin Gibson. -Joe Offer-
|
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:47 PM But Brucie would it baa-rk? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Peace Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:50 PM I said on another thread--I am a changed man. I have discovered MELONS. (And JennyO then suggested warming them first. What a gal.) |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Clinton Hammond Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:52 PM So 615... it's black... no it's blacker than black, right? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: CarolC Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:52 PM The issue, Joe, I repeat, is not whether or not you deleted that post. THE ISSUE IS THAT YOU HAVE REPEATEDLY LIED ABOUT WHAT I HAVE SAID AND DONE IN THIS THREAD AND IN PMs AND PRIVATE E-MAILS TO YOU. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: jacqui.c Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:56 PM I like peace too Brucie. Shame the previous end of this thread got lost - it was much more enjoyable. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: annamill Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:56 PM FOR REAL, I QUIT...THIS THREAD!! Boring.. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: CarolC Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:57 PM AND FURTHERMORE, I HAVE NEVER ONCE CRITICIZED YOU IN THE FORUM FOR NOT DELETING ANYTHING POSTED BY MARTIN GIBSON |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST,615 Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:02 PM "So 615... it's black... no it's blacker than black, right?" Of course - Ray Charles could see that. I'm glad you're finally starting to come around. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Clinton Hammond Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:03 PM Oh no... it's that you've come around to see it MY way! Wanna fight about this for a while?? LOL |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST,615 Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:07 PM Not since you've given up and seen it my way mate. Thanks for conceding the point. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: CarolC Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:09 PM I missed your apology for getting confused, Joe. It's a nice apology for what it's for, getting my posts confused with those of JtS, but it still doesn't address the this slanderous lie as it applies to me: And then when the trolls attack, they squeal like a stuck pig. Jack does it, CarolC does it, Ron Davies does it, and so does dianavan - and many others.
-Joe Offer- |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: gnu Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:16 PM Jacqui.c.... yes, it was, even though it had a shitty theme. Did you read my post about the vicious robin? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Dave the Gnome Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:19 PM I said in another thread ages ago that Mr G was the one of best wind up merchants I had ever seen. I have often disagreed with him and sometimes agreed. I have never condoned insults and profanity but, hats off to you Martin, 590 posts and counting for a sign off message... Power to your elbow, man. Cheers DtG |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST,Queequeg Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:21 PM The specific profanity c**nt has been used more times by other mudcatters in this thread than the total times MG ever posted. Now think about that my friends. I know it can be humiliating being the target of such a profanity. I myself have been called a prick many times in my life, and and many of the accusers, suprisingly (or not so suprisingly) have been females. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Joe Offer Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:21 PM OK, Carol. You have always been kind, considerate, and complimentary. You have never done combat with anyone here at Mudcat. You are as sweet as honey and as pure as the driven snow. You are so polite that you could teach Miss Manners a lesson or two. I have met you in person, so I know this to be a fact. I am sorry that I ever thought otherwise of you. I guess I got you confused with some other Carol C who posts here at Mudcat. -Joe Offer- |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: TheBigPinkLad Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:24 PM Oh-oh ... |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:32 PM Martin, Thanks for leaving...You socio-political neocon deathsquad knave! Peter Thankyou again |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: CarolC Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:38 PM OK, Carol. You have always been kind, considerate, and complimentary. You have never done combat with anyone here at Mudcat. You are as sweet as honey and as pure as the driven snow. You are so polite that you could teach Miss Manners a lesson or two. I have met you in person, so I know this to be a fact. I am sorry that I ever thought otherwise of you. I guess I got you confused with some other Carol C who posts here at Mudcat. This sarcasm is bullshit, Joe. Yes, sometimes I do battle with people. BUT I HAVE NEVER ONCE COMPLAINED TO YOU OR ABOUT YOU OR TO OR ABOUT ANYONE ELSE BECAUSE OF THE RESULTS With the exception of the two PMs I sent after you announced your 100 percent review of Martin's posts, pretty much all of my PMs and e-mails to you have been to alert you to the presence of racist, anti-Semitic, and other kinds of hate mongering threads and/or posts, and I think we had a disagreement a long time ago about a thread you deleted. That's it. And I have NOT been participating in any of the "complain about Joe Offer" or "complain about the way the Mudcat is moderated threads" (unlike Clinton Hammond). I have not been criticizing you, and I have not been complaining to you or about you. SO STOP TELLING LIES ABOUT ME! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: jacqui.c Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:40 PM No gnu - missed that one - any chance for a reprise? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Joe Offer Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:43 PM OK, OK, OK, Carol. I guess it's Jack who does the complaining for you, huh? If that's the case, work it out with him and tell him to let you speak for yourself, and both of you get off my case. I'm sorry I got myself sucked into the wrath of CarolC and her trusty husband. I didn't have any desire to fight - all I want is for people to Stop Responding To Trolls!!! And that's all I have to say. -Joe Offer- |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Joe Offer Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:44 PM 600!!! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: CarolC Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:45 PM Fuck you, Joe! Jack complains about what pisses him off. Are you punishing me for what he does here?
-Joe Offer- |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: jacqui.c Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:45 PM HOW DARE YOU JOE - I WANTED THE 600!!!!!!! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Don Firth Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:46 PM 600! Damn! I missed it! I wasn't going to get involved in this, and I'm still not going to get involved in this, but I have an observation or two, and a suggestion, for what it's worth. I had assumed that Martin Gibson's leaving would have been met with jubilation and celebration, but not so. His leaving managed to drop the biggest stink bomb he's exploded yet. And instead of reacting with a relieved and happy "Well, thank God that's over!" and opening a window and airing the place out, it seems that people are inhaling deeply, complaining bitterly, and attacking each other. It's like the old crack about the Democratic Party—a firing squad formed in a circle. When the momentum picked up on this, I was hoping that during the hiatus of the last few days when Mudcat was down, all the pent-up animosity would have lost its steam, but obviously not. Ye gods, folks!! Now, whether I fired zingers at Martin Gibson or ignored him, it didn't seem to make much difference. I probably took about as much crap off him as anybody else. But who cares? None of it bothered me. I've encountered people like him before—in 3-D—so I just considered the nature of the source. It was obvious that he wasn't going to go away until he decided to, so the best thing to do was just roll with the punches. Okay. Here's my suggestion: Go take a hike!! No, I mean it. Take a hike. Push back from the computer, shut it down, and go for a walk. In the woods. Or in a nearby park. It's spring going into summer. Take note of the fact. Or if there are no parks or woods nearby, pick up a book and go to a nearby coffee shop, get a cup of mud, sit down at a corner table, and read—something light and entertaining, nothing serious. While you're out, do some deep breathing. Blow a little fresh air through your head. Then, when you return, stay off Mudcat for a few days. Make it a week. Maybe two. Do something else. Gain a little perspective. Then, before you log back onto Mudcat, resolve that anything you feel about Martin Gibson or anything that resulted from his tenure on Mudcat—or anything that happened as a result, such as getting mad at someone else for whatever reason—is past, gone, done with, and not worth even thinking about anymore. Whatever the gripe is, forget it. Wipe it clean! Can you do that? Fresh start. C'mon, people. Give it a try. Don Firth (It's a fairly nice day here, so I'm going to follow my own suggestion. See ya all later.) |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: TheBigPinkLad Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:48 PM Good luck with that, Don. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: CarolC Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:49 PM You really need to learn how to recognise a friend, Joe. Because until what you posted about me in this thread, I was your friend. If you don't like what JtS posts in this forum, you really need to discuss it with him, and not take it out on me with stupid, petty, slanderous attacks on me. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: jacqui.c Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:50 PM Best post so far - thanks Don. I don't think the hike's a good idea here today - it's cold and windy and damp. Why would I feel homesick for the UK when the weather's the same! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: CarolC Date: 15 Jun 05 - 04:55 PM And I'll explain to you why JtS gets pissed off. He gets pissed off because he sees someone attacking his wife in the Mudcat with pornographic abuse, and it pisses him off. Are you saying it wouldn't piss you off if someone did that to your wife? And JtS has received PMs from people telling him that he shouldn't tolerate the way "Martin Gibson" was treating me. That's a hell of a thing to have to live with. So he gets pissed off. I will not criticize him for trying to be a good husband. That's not the right thing for me to do. If you want to clear things up with him about what you don't like about his posts, stop being such a coward and abusing his wife as a way to change his behavior. Talk to him about it yourself. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST,Queequeg Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:04 PM I think we all would like Martin Gibson to come back. He reminds me of the character King Rat. Whether we liked it or not he served a purpose. With him around he allowed many characters here to vent their innermost anger, frustrations at him. Now that he is gone it seems the anger, frustrations, the demons from way down in our ID are shooting out everywhere. With that being said, Marty come back! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: CarolC Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:10 PM You're wrong, Queequeg. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Clinton Hammond Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:10 PM "Are you saying it wouldn't piss you off if someone did that to your wife?" That's exactly what I'm saying! Besides, my wife knows this is just the internet and none of it is worth the powder to blow it to hell... On top of that, my WIFE knows better than to hang out here... I keep trying to tell her the smooth is worth the crunchy... maybe she's right afterall... Don Firth has it exactly right... Blow some wind through your head and get some perspective... Me, I'm going to a jam session to make some good music... |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:14 PM Refresh |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Clinton Hammond Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:15 PM LOL! Funniest post in the thread! Nice one! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: CarolC Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:19 PM I was talking to Joe, Clinton, not you. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST,615 Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:19 PM Joe - I don't mean for this to sound as confrontational as it's going to sound but I'll risk it and ask anyway. Do you think - given the current situation - that you are suited to be a good moderator at this time ? Is there a "rotation schedule" for Joe Clones ? Do you feel you need to take a break ? Do you WANT to take a break ? Again - sorry if this sounds like I'm trying to screw with you. For the record I do think you've made some mistakes but none of us are perfect. I wouldn't want your job. But I'm curious if you think you need a breather from all the glamour and glory of being a Mudcat joeclone ? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:22 PM No I'm correct CarolC. Look at this thread. Is it ridiculous, or does it reflect the the pathetic souls of certain people who are desperately trying to find peace and solace but not knowing were to drop their frustration and anger. Instead of rejoicing it is full of contempt, hate. Look at the anger you are venting. Yes you. You should be dancing a jig under the moon. Marty is gone. Get on with it, and enjoy the void he has left behind. Get your head out of this thread. Go on, get out. Go post something under the 'gardening' thread, or even the 'what's the weather like where you are'. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST,Queequeg Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:26 PM BTW Carolc, that was me up above. Now go on get out here. scat. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: CarolC Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:32 PM You're still wrong, Queequeg. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST,Queequeg Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:35 PM Nope, I stand steadfst and correct Carolc. Now get out of here. Forget it all. Your points have been manifested. Hanging around in this thread isn't going to do you any good. Your 'good' can be posted elsewhere. Marty is no longer around to humiliate you. No go on! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Richard Bridge Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:37 PM Hey! I'm glad Gobson is gone. I remember it before he was here and it was nice. I think, mostly (by a huge margin), Joe does a good job. Even Homer nods. Some of his decisions I don't agree with, but he probably doesn't agree with all of mine. If you disagree with Joe, do so politely and rationally please. I do think Joe allowed Gobson too much rope, and and that Joe and Wolfgang were too ready to defend Gobson when Gobson got some flak back (to the extent of calling it stalking - whereas I think that if Gobson got any flak, he thoroughly deserved it - indeed frankly he deserved a good kicking or worse). But I can usually say that without resorting to abuse, and I have occasionally been deleted. And mostly I think CarolC and Dianavan are OK. Any shit they heaped on Gobson, he asked for. The cat is a better place. Rejoice! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: Susu's Hubby Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:53 PM Richard, I'm in total agreement that Joe does a wonderful job and I've yet to see where he's slighted anybody. I just think that CarolC is so full of piss and vinegar that she feels the need for public flogging of someone since her nemesis is no longer present. Hubby |
|
Subject: RE: BS: For Real. I quit From: GUEST,615 Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:58 PM SuSu's Husband - If someone - we know who - had called SuSu a nasty name - and it wasn't deleated - would you feel the same way ? Or is it OK because the women that were abused are women that have political views that might be different that yours ? |
