BS: Anti Americans & Half truths

Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 11:47 AM

hmmmm..well, that is a pretty convoluted set of assertions, some direct, some implied.....all of which seem to turn on the accuracy of 'Out of Control'.

I am not sure how I could possibly evaluate something which 'claims' that the entire hostage exchange was contrived to cover up a video...and if it WAS true, what the point is.

That part of history was a mess....the timing was weird .... and the actual interdependencies of the events may NEVER be clearly known. It feels to me like one of those theories where folks just believe what their gut & personal set of accepted premises tells them.

   Too bad YOU were not here when the Kenndey assassination, the Bilderbergers and 9/11 were hot Mudcat topics... *grin*.... you could have 'contributed' a few hundred more clarifying posts.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 03:25 AM

From: Bill D
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 11:47 AM

hmmmm..well, that is a pretty convoluted set of assertions, some direct, some implied.....all of which seem to turn on the accuracy of 'Out of Control'.

The source of what I posted is also substantiated in the book 'Out of Control', but that was not my first, or only source. I suggest you search Daniel Sheehan/ Christic Institute/Iran Contra/Mena Airport/Barry Seal, if you'd like to do your research on this. By all means, be my guest!

Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 05:15 AM

Bill D, Also look up 'Group 40', and 'Operation 40' . It was a group comprised of Cuban nationals, certain figures in the intelligence community, and organized crime. In 1959, then, Vice President Nixon, met with Santos Traficanti, under Meyer Lansky at the Fontanbleu Hotel, in Miami, when the organized crime operations, was run out of Cuba. They offered to 'help' the US in retaking Cuba(being as they lost considerable financial interests there), and wanted to meet with the government, to form a group. By the way, if you recall, when the Watergate burglars were caught, a large number of them were Cuban nationals, and certain factions of the intelligence community. Part of the same group,, ironically, called 'The Plumbers' or 'The Plumber's Unit'. Look it up, its all there, if you're interested.
Out of this was the foundation for 'Operation Mongoose' which, after some 'adjustments' was 'The Bay of Pigs'.....

Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: kendall
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 09:05 AM

Can someone define "Anti American"? Is it simply anyone who does not agree with the Neo cons?