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BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...

Bobert 17 May 04 - 07:08 PM
Stilly River Sage 17 May 04 - 07:13 PM
Bobert 17 May 04 - 07:24 PM
vectis 17 May 04 - 07:29 PM
Blackcatter 17 May 04 - 07:32 PM
Peace 17 May 04 - 07:33 PM
beardedbruce 17 May 04 - 07:36 PM
The Fooles Troupe 17 May 04 - 07:50 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 17 May 04 - 08:24 PM
Joybell 17 May 04 - 08:32 PM
YorkshireYankee 17 May 04 - 08:46 PM
Bobert 17 May 04 - 08:49 PM
Rapparee 17 May 04 - 09:53 PM
Blackcatter 17 May 04 - 10:13 PM
Deckman 17 May 04 - 10:39 PM
GUEST 17 May 04 - 11:15 PM
GUEST 17 May 04 - 11:19 PM
Gypsy 17 May 04 - 11:27 PM
JennyO 17 May 04 - 11:46 PM
Little Hawk 18 May 04 - 12:09 AM
Art Thieme 18 May 04 - 12:29 AM
Bobert 18 May 04 - 08:48 AM
el ted 18 May 04 - 08:54 AM
The Fooles Troupe 18 May 04 - 09:27 AM
Ella who is Sooze 18 May 04 - 10:14 AM
GUEST 18 May 04 - 11:06 AM
Clinton Hammond 18 May 04 - 12:44 PM
Blackcatter 18 May 04 - 12:50 PM
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Little Hawk 18 May 04 - 01:47 PM
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Subject: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Bobert
Date: 17 May 04 - 07:08 PM

Well, fir the last two days Mudact has been slow to load, the threads slow, everything slow...

I have DSL and everything else is working fine 'cept here...

Anyone else having problems???

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 May 04 - 07:13 PM

Yes! Glad to hear it isn't just on my end. (I did use Ad-Aware and find a spyware program I got rid of, that speeded up everything else, but Mudcat is still slow).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Bobert
Date: 17 May 04 - 07:24 PM

Maybe someone oughtta check with Max... Heck, he mightta been overpowered by killer ants who are now working on Mudcat Central. Heck, them killer anys might just take it down in a few hours, 'er days....

So, if therre are any Catters out there who have any confessions to make better not wait. Do it now!!!

Okay, I'll go first... Man, geeze of pete, my 9th grade science teacher was a hottie and I wanted to marry her, or shack up, 'er anything in between as long as involved sex... Sho nuff...

Whew, I'm glad to have that out before the big crash...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: vectis
Date: 17 May 04 - 07:29 PM

Running very slow from here in the UK for the last week.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Blackcatter
Date: 17 May 04 - 07:32 PM

We'll it's probably from the influx of guests.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Peace
Date: 17 May 04 - 07:33 PM

Slow in Alberta too.

Maybe thread overload?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 17 May 04 - 07:36 PM

I think CarolC and I may be eating the bandwidth... Sorry about that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 May 04 - 07:50 PM

I have had difficulty in the last few days wxceeding 1Kb/sec with my ISP, even when checking mail.

Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 17 May 04 - 08:24 PM

helo, i think ants are rubbish, and it was probubly them waht got inside my keybored and busted it,

i dont know waht ants are for, they never do any good things, and you cant eat them, they just rubbish if you ask me.john


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Joybell
Date: 17 May 04 - 08:32 PM

Slow here in Australia too.
jOhn I'll send you an echidna. Fun animals and they love to eat ANTS. Actually ants is all they eat. Cheers Joy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 17 May 04 - 08:46 PM

Yes, pretty slow in the UK -- *particularly* today.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Bobert
Date: 17 May 04 - 08:49 PM

Well, I glad it ain't just me but now I'm havin' second thoughts about the confession thing... Especially since. other than me, no one seems concerned enouough to come clean... Awww, nevermind... It was a dumb idea... Confessin' ain't what its cracked up to be..

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 May 04 - 09:53 PM

Yeah, Bobert, but I went to a high school taught by the FSCs -- the Christian Brothers. Weren't NONE of them I had a crush on!

Been slow here in Idaho, too, and I'm running a T-1 at work and the equivalent on cable at home. I wonder if Max has been having a ping flood or DOS attack leveled against the 'Cat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Blackcatter
Date: 17 May 04 - 10:13 PM

Bobert - I wanted my senior year English teacher - of course part of it was her '64 Mustang . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Deckman
Date: 17 May 04 - 10:39 PM

I'm b e i n g v e r y t i r e d f r o m   w o r k   t h e s e   d a y s   s o i g u e s s   i d o n ' t    r e a l l y   n o t i c e   S L O W    t o o   m u c h ! Cheers, Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 04 - 11:15 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 04 - 11:19 PM

According to Alexa, even before this slowdown, Mudcat was already one of the slowest sites on the Internet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Gypsy
Date: 17 May 04 - 11:27 PM

Well, all is better now. Thanks for fixin' it, Max!


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: JennyO
Date: 17 May 04 - 11:46 PM

Still very slow here - has been for the last 24 hours, and I've got ADSL too. Recently recovered from an attack of computer viruses, so feeling pretty paranoid, but everything else seems to be okay.

I was surprised it was not mentioned on Mudcat Help, and was really wondering if it was me. I'm glad it's not, but I wonder what it is?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 May 04 - 12:09 AM

It's so danged slow that it's driving me nuts! I may consider taking my inane contributions elsewhere if this keeps up. Yes, that's a threat, not a promise. :-)

Bobert, I had this art teacher in junior high that was gorgeous. Ay-yi-yi! Miss Delavan. I had a lot of fantasies about her. Then she went and married some guy named Mr Pinkney! Can you imagine? What a terrible loss. I was devastated. I am still devastated. It's simply not right! You took away my dream, Pinkney, and I want it back!!!!!! ARGH!

Now I will hit "submit" and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait...for this darned post to actually get somewhere.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Art Thieme
Date: 18 May 04 - 12:29 AM

Slow in Illinois too.

Art


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Bobert
Date: 18 May 04 - 08:48 AM

Well, I reckon that confession is not only good for the soul but fir the Catbox also... Seems to be back up to speed... Max had left the parking brake on...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: el ted
Date: 18 May 04 - 08:54 AM

Dead slow in sunny Hull, England for the last few days, been crashing for several hours at a time as well, including most of today.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 May 04 - 09:27 AM

Hmmm, looking at the Alexa link above led me to some very negative hostile reviews of The Mudcat (dated 2003) - including some very nasty personal attacks on Max - allegedly submitted thru Amazon....

perhaps someone may have something positive and nice to say...

Also I don't know if the contact information is current...

Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 18 May 04 - 10:14 AM

I can only get catted in the afternoon in the uK... in the morning, it doesn't want to know... feed it more coffee max..

S'okay now though!


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 04 - 11:06 AM

Good idea--run right over to and yell at the people who said mean things about your beloved Max? That is just SOOOO high school in group of you!

Those of you who use Mudcat as your clubhouse will never get it. It isn't just that so many of the personalities here are a bore. The main thing is, the website sucks. The search engine sucks, and Mudcat use is dropping because of it. And the supposed "music knowledge" in the forum is a joke.

Wake up and smell the coffee, people. When over 80% of websites actually load, much less load faster than yours, your days are numbered. The website is irrelevant. The DigiTrad is pretty worthless at this point, because no one ever did anything to clean it up, do a decent cataloguing of it, and manage it like a real archive.

Compared to other music lyric sites this one looks like a 15 year old did it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 18 May 04 - 12:44 PM

Seems to me this should be a TECH thread, and be above the BS line....


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Blackcatter
Date: 18 May 04 - 12:50 PM

Max had left the parking brake on...

I remember a couple years back when he left the left blinker on for miles too...


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 May 04 - 12:56 PM

Hey Bobert (and blackcatter) I HAD my senior English Teacher! OK OK..it was two years after I had graduated, but at least I found out why the guy was always going on about "Moby Dick"..xx..e


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 May 04 - 01:47 PM

Oh! The emotional devastation at these revelations from the anonymous one who deigns to drop in here from time to time. I think it likely that the entire membership of Mudcat will shortly commit suicide en masse, having come to the realization that the tremendous importance they place on Mudcat has been a paltry delusion. Heh!

Naw...ignorance really is bliss. We're having fun in our 15 year old sandbox.

Hey, love, we don't come here because it's the best, we don't come here because there are or are not better forums, we just come here because we've been here a lot before and we're used to it. Period. There is no reason or justification necessary for things like this to occur. If you want to piss and moan about something, why not get mad about Howard Stern or the Aryan Nation or cross-breeding of Pekingeses or something else like that that really matters?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 May 04 - 02:06 PM

Guest 18 May 04 - 11:06 AM needs to practice his freedom will and go elsewhere if he doesn't like Mudcat as it is.

I predict the similar flame wars at Alexa (whose software I booted out of my computer the other day) as occur here at Mudcat. But Amazon allows the removal of the mean-spirited stuff. Personal attacks aren't tolerated if they're called to someone's attention.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: michaelr
Date: 18 May 04 - 02:10 PM

It's been WAY slow for days, and it's been down a couple times a week. Surely something can be done to stabilize things?

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 18 May 04 - 02:12 PM

What Michael said....


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 04 - 02:16 PM

I have noticed during this slow down, that when you post to a BS thread, the page refreshes to the BS section. I can't remember that happening before.

Perhaps Max is adjusting a few things??????


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Blackcatter
Date: 18 May 04 - 02:17 PM

Gee Ellen - you keep giving me all these wonderful images.

Maybe I can offer to tutor you sometime.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Mudlark
Date: 18 May 04 - 03:04 PM

Slow here in California too...the Annexe is a pleasant alternative during these frustrating times. (And I'm thinking to myself, if this is the most frustrating thing in my life I'm in heaven!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 May 04 - 04:29 PM

Yea slow - but then something is going-on with my ISP's too - this is the third attempt to read this thread, connection gone each time I click.

(Someone tell me if this didn't post)


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Once Famous
Date: 18 May 04 - 05:14 PM

Just think of all of the rest you get each time a screen changes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Bill D
Date: 18 May 04 - 05:40 PM

it's absolutely fascinating how these 'guests' pop in SO regularly to tell us they don't like being here...

8 years & counting, and we are told we are not long for this world? "your days are numbered"....indeed...numbered in the thousands already!

Golly I am DEVASTATED to discover I am not having any fun and the the search don't work and that the database is irrelevant.....*big grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: mack/misophist
Date: 18 May 04 - 05:46 PM

When I click on a link I often get "Server Not Found". Since M$ arbitrarily limits the number of connections to a server at one time, that could be the problem. This place is just too popular for the server to cope with.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Don Firth
Date: 18 May 04 - 06:14 PM

Well . . . not saying it's been kinda slow lately, but I've just made "expert" in "Minesweeper" while waiting.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 18 May 04 - 06:55 PM

Yes it's slower than a slow boat to China just recently. Maybe the kitty litter needs emptying.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 May 04 - 08:34 PM

If WHAT didn't post, Mr Red?

And the reason it is a BS thread? Anonymous GUESTS... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 18 May 04 - 09:52 PM

The apparently independent, and negative, rating from Alexa (80-something per cent of sites are faster) reminded me that I somewhere saw reference to the Digital Tradition a year or so ago - acknowledging it as a fine resource but bemoaning that it is now housed on such an unreliable site (ie Mudcat).

Is there no possibility that a university or other academic institution with proper resources might take on the DT? Catters are obviously and understandably forebearing about any shortcomings that interrupt the flow of the forum, but surely it would be desirable that researchers, performers, etc could access the DT whenever they needed to do so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Bill D
Date: 18 May 04 - 10:04 PM

Max has hinted at several ideas for better reliability, but it seems to me it is hard to achieve a situation where the hardware AND the management remain under his control. This is not something we want to be farmed out to someone with lots of computing power, but no idea of the history and 'feel' for what it is.

Ideally, I'd love to see someone big simply fund it, and hire Max & Jeff to run it full time....but folkies are not a major item on the radar of most philanthropic organizations these days. Besides-- we don't keep out mouths shut about the world..*grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 19 May 04 - 12:34 AM

Actually, while the DT in and of itself is all very well and good, much more musical information is contained in the Forum Threads. And often times an 'offhand' comment, even in a BS thread, can be very illuminating musically.

I would be against separating the two.

My only real substantial complaint (musical) is about how long it takes for stuff to migrate from the threads into the DT, but I won't go into that, as that has been well and truly dealt with elsewhere, and I am not making a complaint, just registering my only real 'concern' about the Mudcat.

There are enough "Folk Police" here...

Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Blackcatter
Date: 19 May 04 - 12:44 AM

This place may be slow, but I've been on and off the site at least several times a week for nearly 5 years and rarely is the site down - and then, just for short periods. I doubt that too many people are not getting to the site.


Don - becoming an expert on Minesweeper means you're going to be getting a call from Halliburton - something about Afghanistan and mines. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 19 May 04 - 01:52 AM

If the server is showing it's age, how about a one off donation towards getting a better server? Purely voluntarily.


I would be happy to contribute as MC has and is giving me a lot of enjoyment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: Peace
Date: 19 May 04 - 11:20 AM

What would a new server cost? Anyone know?


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Subject: RE: BS: Is it me or is the Catbox gummed up?...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 04 - 11:25 AM

and what hardware is it on, now?


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