BS: Palestinian 'facts'

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 03:16 PM

One more thing, and then I am off this thread. If the intent has been to drive some Jewish mudcatters away, it worked. Some have left.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: CarolC
Date: 18 May 08 - 03:33 PM

You keep characterizing it as hatred for Israel. That's total bullshit, designed to malign and smear people who are fighting for human rights for Palestinians, in an effort to try to silence them. One doesn't have to hate Israel in order to try to stop if from doing what it's doing to people, any more than one had to hate the United States to try to stop it from practicing slavery, or its own version of apartheid in the past. Racism is racism, regardless of who is practicing it, or whom they are practicing it on.

Israel did start the 1967 war, and the reason it is of the utmost importance to bring this to the awareness of people is because Israel is using its fiction about '67 being for them a defensive war in order to say that they were legally entitled to take land by conquest. As long as Israel is allowed to provoke wars with its neighbors and then take their land by conquest, there will never be peace in the region, and there will never be peace for the Israelis.

The ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians is ongoing, as is the ethnic cleansing of the non-Jewish Israeli Arabs. This situation, and the denial of any kind of rights basic or otherwise for the Palestinians, is going to have to be corrected before anything else takes place. The ethnic cleansing, begun before Israel declared its independence, is the precipitating event. And every war of conquest that Israel has conducted since then has only served to make the problem worse. The government of Israel has not abandoned its plans to increase its territory far beyond what it is even today. There will be no hope for peace in the region (or in much of the rest of the world) until this stops.

All of the governments of the countries in the Middle East have said that they will recognize Israel's right to live in peace and security if Israel will withdraw to the pre-1967 borders. And they have international law and the UN charter to back them up in this stance.

You can support ethnic cleansing and apartheid if you want, but that will hardly put you in a position to point fingers at others about hatred.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: CarolC
Date: 18 May 08 - 03:37 PM

If some Jewish Mudcatters feel a need to leave because there are people in the Mudcat who believe that Palestinians are human being, too, then it is their own personal failings that are causing them to go.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: CarolC
Date: 18 May 08 - 03:48 PM

Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary is not an historical text.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:14 PM

'Contrary to the propaganda put out by Israel's supporters, Israel is NOT supported by the majority of the world's Jewish people. Ariel Sharon does not speak for all Jewish people. And being anti-Israel is not "anti-Semitic"'

Jews against Zionism

'There's a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in'
Leonard Cohen

I have Jewish ancestry and I'm not leaving this debate!

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:18 PM

"You can support ethnic cleansing and apartheid if you want,"

I don't, and fuck you for saying that.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:20 PM

'For my mother and father, Judaism meant bearing witness, raging against injustice and foregoing silence.

It meant compassion, tolerance and rescue.

These were the ultimate Jewish values'

Sarah Roy, daughter of Holocaust survivors

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: CarolC
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:26 PM

I don't, and fuck you for saying that.

And yet you think you are entitled to tell others what they feel and believe (telling them that they hate Israel and in other threads, that they hate Jews).

You are no more in a position to tell others what is in their hearts then they are to tell you what is in yours. If you don't like taking it, stop dishing it out.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: pdq
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:30 PM

''Israel is NOT supported by the majority of the world's Jewish people."

A quick calculation (by me) suggests that, for that statement to be true, that at least 85% of the Jews living outside of Israel do not want that state to exist. Either that, or many Jewish citizens living within Israel want their own country to be dissolved.

Emma B: you are a nut case.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:31 PM

I am telling no one what to say. I stated a position. You then said, in your usual manner, that I support ethnic cleansing and apartheid, which I don't. You attack me and you get it back.

You support Hezbollah and Hamas. Does that mean I should think you support the ethnic cleansing of Jews? I don't believe that of you nor would I say it. The 'fuck you' stands.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:39 PM

Peace, I dislike intensly what the American government has done but appreciate that it has also been against the wishes of many good Americans and dear friends.

I have spoken out and demonstrated against the decisions of my own government in the illegal invasion of Iraq.

I was an active member of the Anti-Apartheid organization, as were many white South Africans.

I have posted statements by dissenters within the Israeli state as opposed as I am to the inhumanity of Gaza.

Shalom
'Em'

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: GUEST,albert
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:41 PM

The Zionists on Mudcat really don't like being told the truth about the situation in Israel/Palestine, hence the abusive language and the growing hysteria.
Its a bit like that in Israel where internal scandal after scandal and the daily resistance of the Palestinians is having a big effect on the Israeli leadership.They can't see a way out that doesn't involve more ethnic cleansing and oppression.
Albert

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: CarolC
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:47 PM

I am telling no one what to say. I stated a position. You then said, in your usual manner, that I support ethnic cleansing and apartheid, which I don't. You attack me and you get it back.

In your usual manner of practicing bullying smear tactics to silence those who are working for human rights for Palestinians, you are characterizing them as being people who hate Israel and also in other threads, people who hate Jews. This is a lie and a libel.

You support Hezbollah and Hamas.

This is also a lie. You know as well as I do that even right here in this thread, I have said that Hamas has policies that are impossible to defend. I don't support any terrorist actions on the part of Hezbollah, but anything they do that is only for the purpose of keeping Israel from reoccupying Lebanon, I do support. So your "fuck you" is as much hot air as your libelous accusations that people who work for human rights for Palestinians are Israel haters and Jew haters.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:50 PM

Yes, no-one had the right to create a new Jewish homeland on the land of other people.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:50 PM

It would be refreshing to see some of the peaceful folks here speak as loudly against Hezbollah and Hamas.

I don't doubt you mean what you say, Emma, nor do I doubt your integrity. Does it also extend to admonitions against Hezbollah and Hamas?

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:51 PM

"Yes, no-one had the right to create a new Jewish homeland on the land of other people."

If you are addressing pre-1967 borders, I could agree with you. Is that what you mean?

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:53 PM

Peace - yes!

Show me where I have defended Hamas except to ackmowledge them as the democratically elected government.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: CarolC
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:54 PM

It would be refreshing to see some of the peaceful folks here speak as loudly against Hezbollah and Hamas.

Hezbollah and Hamas will disappear after Israel withdraws to the pre-1967 borders. So a vote to end the occupation is also a vote to end Hezbollah and Hamas.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: CarolC
Date: 18 May 08 - 04:59 PM

Actually, Hezbollah will disappear after Israel withdraws to the pre-1967 borders and releases the ten thousand or so Palestinians and Lebanese who have been languishing in Israeli prisons for years with no trial, no convictions, and no access to any kind of justice at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:02 PM

may I repeat a quote made a little ealier....

'Just as Israel's bombing of Lebanon last summer failed to compel Lebanese to turn against Hizbullah,

'... this crushing of Gaza will continue to bolster Hamas's support as well as those who will make Hamas seem like the good guys'

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: GUEST,let the jewish & arab women rule in middle e
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:05 PM

One of the bravest women in the Middle East, indeed, the world.

Wafa Sultan talking to Tovia on Israel National Radio

This is the TV interview that sparked off the Radio interview above.


Wafa Sultan Speaks Out

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:06 PM

Tel Aviv (dpa) - In Israel, the number of emigrants exceeded the number of immigrants for the first time in 20 years, the Israeli daily Yediot Ahronot reported Friday 04/20/2007

Almost half of the country's young people were thinking of leaving the country, the report said.

Their reasons included dissatisfaction with the government, the education system, a lack of confidence in the political ruling class and concern over the security situation.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:09 PM

"Show me where I have defended Hamas except to ackmowledge them as the democratically elected government."

Don't pull a CarolC. I have never said you defended Hamas or Hezbollah. The question I asked is have you ever condemned them.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:14 PM

Have I ever condemned then on a thread here - no I don't think so.

But then I only joined this thread recently against my better judgement as I know that my opinions will not endear me to some people who I also respect.

However may I rectify that here and now and put it in writing that I do not support any Holocaust denial from whatever quarter it comes from.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: CarolC
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:16 PM

The Christian Palestinians are suffering just as much because of the occupation as the Muslim Palestinians are, GUEST 18 May 08 - 05:05 PM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QHzuYcuIQY&feature=related

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:17 PM

I'm listening to that lady who was linked to by the Guest (let the women rule, etc), and she nails it in one. Brilliant gal. I hope others listen to it and maybe internalizes what this gal is saying.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:19 PM

There ain't too much left to say after listening to Wafa Sultan.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: GUEST,Jewish/Arab woman again
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:20 PM

Listen to Wafa talking about the Jewish people and how they have become her friends:

Wafa Sultan interview on Israel National Radio - Part Two

And after that, maybe you should all shake hands and give each other a hug, because it's starting to sound like the Middle East itself inside this thread.

We are all ONE people, Mudcatters too.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: CarolC
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:21 PM

I'm listening to that lady who was linked to by the Guest (let the women rule, etc), and she nails it in one.

Only if one forgets the Christian Palestinians, which it looks like a lot of people would like us to do.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:31 PM

That last post speaks louder than I ever could.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: CarolC
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:32 PM

Jewish/Arab women (etc)...

There are many Muslim and Christian Palestinians who consider Jews to be their friends. There are Jews living amongst the Palestinians in their villages (as equals, not as occupiers) and some are even married to Jews who live there with them. But that doesn't make living under a crushing military occupation, apartheid, and ongoing ethnic cleansing any easier for them. There are also many Jewish human rights workers who spend a lot of time in occupied Palestine, helping to protect the Palestinians from attacks from settlers. Hatred of Jews is not the problem in occupied Palestine. The occupation is the problem in occupied Palestine.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:36 PM

'All of a sudden, and out of obscurity, Sultan found herself the center of both attention and controversy. On the one hand, she became the darling of many right wing media pundits and mainly pro-Israel groups who viewed her as a beacon of reform that stood up to what was wrong with Islam and Muslims.

On the other hand, Muslims contended that by making broad, unfounded and ignorant proclamations about their faith, Sultan was nothing more than a pawn playing into the hands of Islamophobes, and an opportunist who intentionally pushed the divide between the Islamic world and the West to further ulterior motives that included fame, fortune and immortality.'

While Sultan's admirers have nothing but praise for her, detractors charge that many of her public claims do not corroborate with facts. Moreover, they assert that the reasons behind her rise to fame have more to do with her personal life than with her desire to reform Islam.

Adnan Halabi, a Syrian expatriate who met and got to know the Sultans when they first came to the United States, spoke at length about the Wafa Sultan that very few people know.

According to Halabi, Dr. Wafa Ahmad (her maiden name) arrived in California with her husband Moufid (now changed to David) in the late 80s on a tourist visa. Contrary to what she told the New York Times, they came as a couple, leaving their two children back in Syria.

As to the claim that her professor (thought to be Yusef Al-Yusef) was gunned down before her eyes in a faculty classroom at the University of Aleppo, Halabi said the incident never took place. "There was a professor who was killed around 1979, that is true, but it was off-campus and Sultan was not even around when it happened," he added

These same critics allege that Islamophobes are most certainly behind the likes of Sultan. They argue that the clip that made her famous was distributed by MEMRI, a media group that purports to independently translate and distribute news from the Middle East when in reality it is promoting a pro-Israeli slant. In an article titled, "Selective Memri," published on August 12, 2002 by the British newspaper The Guardian, investigative reporter Brian Whitaker wrote: "The stories selected by MEMRI for translation follow a familiar pattern: either they reflect badly on the character of Arabs or they in some way further the political agenda of Israel

Another feature of deliberate bias and media myopia, critics say, is the fact that the Al-Jazeera clip was edited intentionally "out of context" to reflect one single point of view and promote Sultan's arguments through American-style media sound bites, reducing the other debater to a mere punching bag.

In the transcript, Shaikh Ibrahim Al-Khouli responded by saying, "…here we must ask a question, who facilitated the conflict and indeed initiated it; is it the Muslims? Muslims now are in a defensive position fighting off an aggressor... who said Muslims were backward? They may be backward in terms of technological advances, but who said that such are the criteria for humanity? Muslims are more advanced on a human level, in terms of the values and principles they endorse." (Entire transcript can be viewed at:

http://www.aqoul.com/archives/2006/03/aljazeera_trans.php

Sultan's detractors include not only Muslims but members of the Jewish community as well. In an op-ed piece published in the Los Angeles Times (June 25, 2006) and titled "Islam's Ann Coulter," Rabbi Stephen Julius Stein at Wilshire Boulevard Temple, who attended a fundraiser for a local Jewish organization where Sultan was a speaker, wrote, "The more Sultan talked, the more evident it became that progress in the Muslim world was not her interest.... She never alluded to any healthy, peaceful Islamic alternative."

The rabbi mentioned that Judea Pearl, father of murdered journalist Daniel Pearl, "was one of the few voices of restraint and nuance heard that afternoon. In response to Sultan's assertion that the Koran contains only verses of evil and domination, Pearl said he understood the book also included 'verses of peace' that proponents of Islam uphold as the religion's true intent. The Koran's verses on war and brutality, Pearl contended, were 'cultural baggage,' as are similar verses in the Torah."

He added, "Sultan's over-the-top, indefensible remarks at the fundraiser, along with her failure to mention the important, continuing efforts of the Islamic Center (of Southern California), insulted all Muslims and Jews in L.A. and throughout the nation who are trying to bridge the cultural gap between the two groups. And that's one reason why I eventually walked out of the event."

As to the reasons that may have pushed Sultan to be so outspoken and vocal against Islam in a post-9/11 world, Halabi sympathetically remarked, "Poverty. It drives people to sell their soul."

Sigh - seems everyone has an 'agenda'

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: pdq
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:39 PM

"crushing military occupation, apartheid, and ongoing ethnic cleansing..."

Such words are the stuff of propaganda and are not to found in a serious discussion about 'facts' and 'solutions to problems'.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: CarolC
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:42 PM

Such words are the stuff of propaganda and are not to found in a serious discussion about 'facts' and 'solutions to problems'.

They happen to be the truth. Watch the videos I've already provided and you can see your yourself. I'll post some more, too, so there won't be any room for ambiguity about what "crushing occupation" means.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 05:53 PM

'Selective Memri'

Evidence from Memri's website also casts doubt on its non-partisan status. Besides supporting liberal democracy, civil society, and the free market, the institute also emphasises "the continuing relevance of Zionism to the Jewish people and to the state of Israel".

That is what its website used to say, but the words about Zionism have now been deleted. The original page, however, can still be found in internet archives.

The reason for Memri's air of secrecy becomes clearer when we look at the people behind it. The co-founder and president of Memri, and the registered owner of its website, is an Israeli called Yigal Carmon.

Mr - or rather, Colonel - Carmon spent 22 years in Israeli military intelligence and later served as counter-terrorism adviser to two Israeli prime ministers, Yitzhak Shamir and Yitzhak Rabin.

Retrieving another now-deleted page from the archives of Memri's website also throws up a list of its staff. Of the six people named, three - including Col Carmon - are described as having worked for Israeli intelligence.

Col Carmon's co-founder at Memri is Meyrav Wurmser, who is also director of the centre for Middle East policy at the Indianapolis-based Hudson Institute, which bills itself as "America's premier source of applied research on enduring policy challenges".

Ms Wurmser is the author of an academic paper entitled Can Israel Survive Post-Zionism? in which she argues that leftwing Israeli intellectuals pose "more than a passing threat" to the state of Israel, undermining its soul and reducing its will for self-defence

It's a campaign that the Israeli government and American neo-conservatives have been pushing since early this year - one aspect of which was the bizarre anti-Saudi briefing at the Pentagon, hosted last month by Richard Perle.

To anyone who reads Arabic newspapers regularly, it should be obvious that the items highlighted by Memri are those that suit its agenda and are not representative of the newspapers' content as a whole.

The danger is that many of the senators, congressmen and "opinion formers" who don't read Arabic but receive Memri's emails may get the idea that these extreme examples are not only truly representative but also reflect the policies of Arab governments

Unfortunately, it is on the basis of such sweeping generalisations that much of American foreign policy is built these days.

As far as relations between the west and the Arab world are concerned, language is a barrier that perpetuates ignorance and can easily foster misunderstanding

Not everything is as it seems - especially posts from 'guests'

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:02 PM

Islam's Ann Coulter
The seductive and blinkered belligerence of Wafa Sultan.
By Stephen Julius Stein, Los Angeles Times

STEPHEN JULIUS STEIN is a rabbi at Wilshire Boulevard Temple, where he also directs inter-religious programming.
June 25, 2006

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:06 PM

So we ignore her quest for a peaceful resolution and do what?

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: GUEST,Jewish/Arab woman
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:08 PM

Israel's destiny lies with Palestine
Palestine's destiny lies with Israel

They are inseparable, and they are the same species, human beings.

One World

Go to the borders, let the musicians of Israel and Palestine lead their people forward, then let them cross those borders, with their people. Let Jew dance with Palestinian and Palestinian dance with Jew, let them throw their labels away, let them unite their religions to become the Religion of Humanity and see what happens..

"I believe there is a God, but it doesn't mean that my God is greater than yours. It only means we all have the right to believe, 'cos nobody knows it for sure, if there's a heaven, or hell, or a sweet paradise, or a place where we all meet again, 'cos with minimal change everyone here is the same. We're living in One World.." (taken from 'One World' by Chris de Burgh

Wafa Sultan no doubt knew, when she spoke out, that her life would never be lived in peace again. She is currently living in hiding, following a fatwa being issued against her, in March this year.

Perhaps her detractors would care to have the courage of this woman, and put their lives on the line, as she has done, in order to speak words which should have been spoken so long ago. It is far easier to be the ones to criticise, than to be the one who has stood up against a world in denial.

And to those who have left Mudcat, I fervently hope that they will return, once the hurt from so many of these threads has settled.

Shalom-Inshallah

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:08 PM

How about this instead?

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: pdq
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:12 PM

It sounds like we are supposed to worry about Emma B's opinion of somebody else giving an opinion about somebody else giving her opinion. On that rests the future of 7 million Israelis. Nice try, though.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:15 PM

Propaganda is popaganda whatever it's source and the 'source' of this is certainly suspect both factually ( "There was a professor who was killed around 1979, that is true, but it was off-campus and Sultan was not even around when it happened,") and in its origins the Middle East Media Research Institute (Memri).

I think I have attempted to refure both racism and blatent Islamaphobia on a number of threads, I consider this is yet another example from an unknown 'guest'

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:20 PM

"I think I have attempted to refure both racism and blatent Islamaphobia on a number of threads, I consider this is yet another example from an unknown 'guest'"

I notice you didn't attempt to refute Guest Albert. I look forward to your equally vehement refutation of Israelaphobia.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:21 PM

Peace, I whole heartedly endorse the Daniel Pearl Foundation.

From the link I posted.......

Judea Pearl, an attendee and father of murdered journalist Daniel Pearl, was one of the few voices of restraint and nuance heard that afternoon. In response to Sultan's assertion that the Koran contains only verses of evil and domination, Pearl said he understood the book also included "verses of peace" that proponents of Islam uphold as the religion's true intent. The Koran's verses on war and brutality, Pearl contended, were "cultural baggage," as are similar verses in the Torah. Unfortunately, his words were drowned out by the cheers for Sultan's full-court press against Islam and Muslims.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:22 PM

In fact, I haven't seen too many people refute guest posters--as long as the guest agrees with their position. (I'm that way, too. Not perfect like a few folks here.) Have a nice day.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:26 PM

Peace, I have never posted in support of the Bush regime's decision to invade Iraq or deny universal health care to its citizens

I similarly will not endorse the actions (in regard of Gaza) of the Likud ruling party in the Knesset until hell freezes over - hope that answers your question.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:29 PM

It certainly does. Tells me all I need to know. Thank you. So, it's OK to hate Israel's actions but not those of other countries in the region. Just wanted to be clear.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Emma B
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:33 PM

Peace, I believe I said I neither supported the Holocaust denial of Hammas or the policies of the Likud party in relation to Gaza.

Please don't put words in my mouth either.

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: Peace
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:37 PM

Then answer the question I asked earlier: Have you ever come out with a condemnation of Hamas and Hezbollah--specifically with regard to their rhetoric regarding Israel and Hezbollah's actions with regard to Israel?

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: pdq
Date: 18 May 08 - 06:37 PM

What Emma B does is kinda like "praising with faint damns".

Subject: RE: BS: Palestinian 'facts'
From: CarolC
Date: 18 May 08 - 08:02 PM

This is how peace will be accomplished. Opening a window to the world on what is going on in occupied Palestine...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsesMjWkAl8&feature=related


Literally crushing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vOosOEFFyo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsXCbaN3Nw4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6ixQix_Mys&feature=related


Emotionally and mentally crushing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBb2f1WEtiQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgySmIN3Uls&feature=related


Crushing opportunities for the future of Palestinian youth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYyWg9Z8I7k&feature=related


Crushing bones...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6va41PCY_U&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrJEaF0rhB0


Crushing spirits, crushing liberty, crushing human rights...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0fM58jBYzY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhvE1YkbdPU&feature=related


Crushing livelihoods (and crushing bones in the first one)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xEApSnFPIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jZSg0IJpiQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv9CY5-RKLg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTVNyXhxqFc


I posted this one already but I think it bears posting again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kem1ajIKv1k&feature=related