BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered

Subject: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Songwronger
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 06:57 PM

This is REAL damn funny:

President Obama's ancestry has always been a hot topic. Between the birther debates that the Supreme Court dismissed last month to the country's differing opinions about his race, the commander-in-chief's biological roots have long been a hot-button issue.

But the most recent discovery into the president's complicated genealogy will likely fuel even more chatter.

According to the New York Times, a team of genealogists has discovered the president's slave ancestry.

As the son of a Kenyan father and white American mother, Obama is an African-American in the most literal sense. But until now Obama's African American cred in a more contemporary sense had been a source of debate, since unlike most American blacks he was not thought to have descended directly from enslaved Africans.

However, the researchers say that not only did the president descend from an enslaved African, his ancestor was likely the first ever documented black slave in America. Furthermore, Obama's slave heritage unfurls from perhaps the most unlikely familial line: his white mother....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/30/barack-obama-slave-ancestry_n_1721018.html?utm_hp_ref=black-voices

There's lots on the web now about Frank Davis being Obama's likely father. Just do a web search and you'll find the articles, books and videos. Davis was a political activist that Obama's mama slept with. So, Obama's people counter the Davis stuff with this bullshit. So funny. They make up a story where Obama's not just a descendant of slaves, he's a descendant of America's FIRST African slave. So funny.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: bobad
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:03 PM

Oh gawd, here we go, more nutter fodder.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Charley Noble
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:19 PM

"So funny."

So the idea that someone may have slave ancestry is funny to you? Or is it just funny because that someone is Obama?

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Greg F.
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:24 PM

I would suppose that the majority of African Americans in the good ol' U.S. of A. (best country on earth!) have slave ancestry. Why the hell does this surprise anyone? Did Africans decide to come here voluntarily, on a cruise ship, perhaps?

What the fuck is wrong with some people?????

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:34 PM

In songwronger's case Greg, his tinfoil hat sprung a leak and his last remaining brain cell seeped away.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Songwronger
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:35 PM

The man Obama says is his father was from Africa. His ancestors never made the slave trip to America. Barack Obama Sr. was African.

So Obama could never claim slave roots. Until now. His white MAMA is descended from African slaves. And from the FIRST African slave in America. lol

And this is funny because the Obama team bares its racist ass at every opportunity. No game plan but race.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Beer
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:42 PM

We were all hurt at one time. My mother only got angry when the deportation of the Acadians came up in conversation.

Obama is a refreshing addition to American politics. I sure as hell hope he gets a second term.
Adrien

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Jeri
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:49 PM

While I believe it's possible Songwronger is just a teeny bit obsessed with Obama, his reference was the Huffington post.

Doesn't really mean anything, but it's interesting. That's the main thing my mom cared about when she did genealogical research: the stories about ancestors. One guy enlisted in the Continental Army when he was 91 years old, fought in the revolution, and applied for a pension some time after that.

Having a guy in my family tree who'd escaped from indentured servitude and been sentenced to "servitude for life" in 1640, well over a century before the USA was the USA would be quite the story. Most of us can't do such a detailed search, but imagine if the New York Times could delve into your history!

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Beer
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 07:51 PM

Love your story Jeri.
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Greg F.
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 08:18 PM

Hey, Songwronger - go fuck yourself.

Thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Rapparee
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 09:03 PM

One of MY ancestors (around 1855) told his sister that he helped slaves escape from the South, cross the Ohio into Illinois, and then take the across the Mississippi and sold them back into slavery in Missouri.

I'm not particularly proud of him, but then that was 90 years or so before I was born. Frankly, I don't really care -- after he told his sister this story he was never seen again.

I think that if you checked your own mitochondrial DNA you'd find all SORTS of "racial" background...assuming you're a member of the human race.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: GUEST,999
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 09:04 PM

"Ancestry.com Discovers President Obama Related to First Documented Slave in America"

I fail to see the reason for this thread. If the problem is with Ancestry.com, it would seem best to take it up with them, no?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 09:11 PM

(((((((((((((((((((((((((((yawn))))))))))))))))))))))))))

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Rapparee
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 09:14 PM

Ya know, I saw this on a news website -- AP, UPI, CNN, something. I didn't give a rat's ass then and I don't now.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: frogprince
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 09:22 PM

Wrong Song, ninety-third verse
Could be better, more apt to get worse...

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Elmore
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 09:40 PM

O'Leary,O'Reilly, O'Hare, O'Hara, There's no one as Irish as Barack O'Bama.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Don Firth
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 09:56 PM

". . . the commander-in-chief's biological roots have long been a hot-button issue."

Why the hell should it MATTER!???

My God, man! I've got a Scotsman in my ancestry!

Lemme see, now. Which "racist ass" were you talking about, Songwronger?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Songwronger
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 10:00 PM

The Obama machine thought that pure African blackness was the way to go, so they touted a daddy born in Kenya, with dreams for his son, blah blah blah.

But now Obama's in trouble. His foreign-born blackness isn't playing well. How to fix it? Make him an American slave descendant. But how to do that, since his daddy was 100% NOT American?

Say his MAMA is the black African slave descendant. Yeah. His followers bought the hope and change stuff, and they support him killing Americans secretly, so let's give them "Obama's a descendant of the black slave family of Shirley Ann Dunham."

I mean, how fuckin stupid do you have to be to fall for that stuff? I know that the Obama team has to keep racism on the front burner so the true nature of the man won't come under scrutiny, but come on. Obama's going to claim a backdoor to slavery through his MOTHER?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: meself
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 10:05 PM

You are trying to be funny - right?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Songwronger
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 10:07 PM

It'll be interesting to watch this CIA creature morph from his "Harvard law professor" personality to the new "forty acre and a mule" personality now. Before, he couldn't talk about how "his people" had been oppressed, not with any HOPE of being taken seriously, because his blackness came from Kenya. But now he's suddenly a survivor of the African holocaust. Such utter hypocrisy. This race card is the size of a quilt. What a fuckin creep.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: GUEST,999
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 10:13 PM

Ancestry.com did the research. WTF does this have to do with Obama?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Songwronger
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 10:14 PM

No, not funny. Obama's a creation of the CIA. His family has a history of covert government service. He was fast tracked into the white house because he could be of use to the intelligence services. But he was sold to voters as pure, and he's as dirty as they come. Witness his murderous Obamacare tax on the poorest 10% of American society. He's a monster, but the people who put him in office are counting on democrats not being able to see beyond the color of his skin. But that skin story is wearing thin now, so the story has to be reinvented. Suddenly Obama's a Sufferer because of his slave heritage. Utter bullshit. Ludicrous.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Don Firth
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 10:19 PM

True. NOT funny.

Songwronger's crappola, along with being pure fantasy, is the rankest form of racism.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: GUEST,999
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 10:35 PM

Songwronger, I am curious about the answer to one question: In a hundred words or so, how did/do you feel about George W Bush?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Songwronger
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 10:36 PM

That's hate speech, Firth.*

The point about Ancestry.com doing the research is an interesting one.

Why this over-the-top ludicrous story now? And all of Obama's records are sealed, so who would have the power to crack into them and turn up this new "information?"

Ancestry.com is based in Utah. The Mormons are big into genealogy. Mormon, Utah, Romney. Dirty politics? This story makes Obama look like a total ass.



*NOTE TO MODERATOR: Mr. Firth's comment cast aspersions on me, ridiculed me, and hurt my feelings. Please report him to the International Criminal Court at The Hague, as hate speech is a violation of various national and international laws. Thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 10:39 PM

Lets just leave it at this: Songwronger hates Obama... Period... End of story...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Songwronger
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 10:40 PM

Bush is a sadist and a dullard. He let Cheney and Rumsfeld run the white house. But Bush signed off on their atrocities, so he should face the death penalty for what was done in his name.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: GUEST,999
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 10:44 PM

Thank you, Songwronger. I appreciate the response.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: artbrooks
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 10:56 PM

Oh yeah - one of the debunker sites took a look at the latest "his records are sealed" BS earlier today, and determined that it was, in fact, BS. Can't be bothered to look it up.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Don Firth
Date: 31 Jul 12 - 10:57 PM

For someone who is into libeling others, Songwronger, you're pretty sensitive. You started this thread with your allegations against Obama. And I responded with the obvious observation.

I would suggest that if you can't stand the heat, don't sit on the barbeque.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 12:03 AM

Let me echo Don Firth: Songwronger's crappola, along with being pure fantasy, is the rankest form of racism.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 01:32 AM

And this is funny because the Obama team bares its racist ass at every opportunity. No game plan but race.

The report about Obama's ancestry was made by the genealogical researcher who happened to be curious enough to do a little research on his own, and with NO EVIDENCE that anyone in Obama's family or in "the party" instigated or encouraged the search.

It has been reviewed by Ancestry dot com, which is indisputably the largest and most credible resource for ancestry research, who have released their opinion with NO EVIDENCE that Obama, or his family, or anyone associated with "the party" was involved.

Although this is almost a "non-news" item, I do consult a fair number of news sources on a daily basis, and I've seen NO comments from anyone associated with the Obama campaign, with the exception of "polite replies" to a few muckraking reporters.

Of course we can't blame Wrongsonger, since he got that new "hands off radio." When he says "classical" it tunes to the clearest classical station. When he says "rockabilly," that's what it tunes to. When he leans out the window, shakes his fist and yells "FUCKIN' ASSHOLE" at some idiot who cut him off in traffic, it goes to Rush Limbaugh. Obviously he's just yelling at too many assholes and doesn't recognize why that's all he hears - or knows.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 03:35 AM

I think the point being made, is that "politics" is an extremely dirty joke, regardless of who your particular favourite may be.

A little objectivity would be a help in understanding posters and what they contribute?

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 06:54 AM

""It'll be interesting to watch this CIA creature morph from his "Harvard law professor" personality to the new "forty acre and a mule" personality now.""

Careful SW, your true petty racist personality is starting to show through.


""*NOTE TO MODERATOR: Mr. Firth's comment cast aspersions on me, ridiculed me, and hurt my feelings. Please report him to the International Criminal Court at The Hague, as hate speech is a violation of various national and international laws. Thank you.""

*****NEWSFLASH***** Your country doesn't recognise the International Criminal Court, you clown. They refused to sign up to it long before Obama was elected.

It's just as well, because if it did they'd be much more likely to investigate your racism than Don Firth's exposure of it.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 06:58 AM

Objective enough, Ake?

DT

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 10:11 AM

Songwronger-

"Obama's a creation of the CIA."

Seriously, I'm beginning to think your conspiracy hype is going beyond all bounds. I'm not going to respond to any more of your wild threads from now on. Please seek some mental counseling if you have not already done so. You may be in danger of harming yourself or of harming others.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Elmore
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 11:26 AM

Dear Mr. Songwronger. How can we miss you when you won't go away? I suppose this thread cannot be deleted in the interest of free speech, but it borders on the obscene.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 12:05 PM

I'd agree with Elmore, not so much about the thread itself - it's an interesting enough bit of geneological trivia in its way - but the contributions by the person who started it do leave a very nasty taste in the mouth. I assume that's intentional, so that shouldn't count as a personal attack.

Interestingly enough there appear to be at least three songs with the title and chorus "How can I miss you when you won't go away?" Not all dedicated to the thread originator, perhaps surprisingly.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 12:33 PM

I fail to see a problem. Most of us with ancestors in US for a couple of hundred years are going to be found to have African DNA I think. If NBC, New York Times, CBC, NPR have reported this, and Ancestry.com reported it, and expert genealogists using both property records and marriage records and DNA have come up with this been a likely conclusion..what is the problem? America is a racial mix. Anything of course can be used to stay stupid and racist things, but the bare facts seem pretty uncontroversial to me...mg

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 01:36 PM

Songwronger's plainly off in the head.

He makes the grandiose snarky assertions and expects people not to notice that they are free-floating ideation of the most paranoid sort, unmoored to any factual basis. And I'm not referring the references to the H.Post or Times. THis man is at least three doughnuts short of a dozen.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Elmore
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 02:13 PM

As mcGrath pointed out above, it's not the subject that is objectionable, it's Songwronger. Oh well, if I had any hair, I'd go wash it now.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 01 Aug 12 - 03:46 PM

Far worse rumors than this been spread about me.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: akenaton
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 03:17 AM

I dont think SW is being "racist", is there anything to be gained from that stance?
Seems to me he is attempting to throw some light on the dirty ytricks used by the political classes to keep us all divided.

Not so long ago in the UK, is was impossible to hold any sort of discussion on mass immigration, without the politicians and their partisan followers(mainly on the left),howling "Racism".
It now transpires that under the last labour govt (Blair/Brown), immigration had been allowed to get completely out of hand for economic reasons (cheap labour).
This policy has backfired big time, as the social consequences become apparent....plus the fact that thousands of illegals have come in under whatever radar was there.

All this because gullible people trusted politicians, and stuck to their "equality" agenda before all else.

Of course the political parties have completely reversed their positions.....leaving their erstwhile supporters looking very stupid

But not to worry "racist" is such a useful word that I'm sure it won't be long before it is pressed back into the service of "liberalism"

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: GUEST,999
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 12:32 PM

That isn't the problem, Ake. Ancestry.com did the research. Obama gets named as the bad guy. There are enough legitimate reasons to speak against Obama if that is one's wont, but why for research someone else did about his ancestry? The implication was that Obama would somehow capitalize on it, and that is what left a sour taste in some folk's mouths.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: bobad
Date: 02 Aug 12 - 01:34 PM

More that the implication that Obama is somehow capitalizing on it, the OP is implying that the whole business was concocted by "Obama's people" in order to divert from some web based fiction that his father is someone other than who he claims him to be.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Songwronger
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 08:04 PM

Such hate speech. Moderators, please determine which of the hate speakers above live in countries that have signed on to the International Criminal Court and make sure they are reported. It's shocking that they could express such hatred on this forum. They are wanton criminals and should never see the light of day again.

At any rate, the important thing is that Obama will be labeled as the person who likely initiated this research, in a crass attempt to get the "homeboy" vote. Last election he had African-African blood in his roots, and now it's African-American. I suspect the Utah-based Ancestry.com is responsible for this story, and that's fine. Anything to get rid of Obama. The drone killer. The taxer of the poor. Romney might lead us to Armageddon but Obama damn sure will.

As far as racism goes, the "liberals" in America are the worst racists of all. They want to "provide" for blacks. Plantation mentality. Keep them dependent.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: artbrooks
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 08:11 PM

I rather doubt that Ancestry.com, which is closely affiliated with the Mormon church, would do anything to help Mr. Obama's prospects.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Songwronger
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 08:18 PM

Exactly. This story doesn't help Obama's prospects. It makes him look like a sleazy politician pandering for votes in the 'hood. Probably a "dirty tricks" gambit on the part of his opponents. And if so, it's a good one. No doubt it lost him a few votes. People don't follow up on the rest of the story. All they'll remember is that Obama tried to pose like he was descended from slaves. Just another lowlife politician grubbing for votes.

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Aug 12 - 09:36 PM

I don't hate you, Songwronger. I pity you.

For being so hate-filled yourself.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Obama's slave ancestry just discovered
From: Arkie
Date: 10 Aug 12 - 09:18 AM

I fail to see the humor in the possibility of Obama's slave heritage. And nothing I have read here so far has helped in that regard. I guess the fact that SW and Glen Beck find it funny should be convincing enough. What is funny, is any suggestion that Obama is trying to capitalize on this. It is neither to the fault or credit of someone when a third party digs up information or misinformation on a person's heritage and tries to capitalize on the research. So far, in my small crevice in the universe, I have heard more from SW than Obama on this matter. At least it has given SW and Glen Beck something to pick at.